The Comms Room

Scott Pack

02:10

@Holocryptic I meant more long term. Say, I've been drinking a lot of wine of the past few weeks, so I'll switch to G&T for a while, maybe a proper cocktail if I feel fancy.

Holocryptic

Ahhhh

@ScottPack Is it sad that we all chat amongst ourselves via different chat media in a given day?

Scott Pack

@Holocryptic Efficiency. I still see Twitter as primarily an announcement medium, not really a chat medium.

Holocryptic

yeah, the character limits puts a damper on things

Scott Pack

ooo....sword and board fighter with some fancy feats lets you use the shield both defensively and offensively at the same time. That could be fun.

Holocryptic

Shield rush

Scott Pack

02:15

@Holocryptic Tell me about it, that character building post had 1...one! character remaining.

Holocryptic

What do you play?

Scott Pack

We'll be going back to Pathfinder. We've had a several month long excursion into Ghostbusters (West End Games).

Holocryptic

Do you play IRL? or online?

I've never done a true RPG

Scott Pack

In person. It works out pretty well, we all work at the university, and only one of the guys doesn't have kids. So really we only end up playing for a few hours once a week.

On the plus side, we're a libation friendly table, and we play about 1.5 blocks from my house.

Holocryptic

niiiiiiiiice

Scott Pack

02:33

Speaking of which, probably time to go to sleep.

Holocryptic

I was just thinking the same

G night

WesleyDavid

02:58

@ScottPack Hey sexy.

But you're not here. I hope you die in your sleep.

WesleyDavid

03:22

COFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEE

voretaq7

stretch

yawn

smash the shit out of the server

uh

am I overtired, or is this not even english?

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Q: What is the DNS lookup sequence for DFS namespace resolution

Not sure if title makes sense. I have 3 DNS servers: A, B and C. I want to access the DFS namespace \\country.company.com\dept from A, B and C but on B, \\country.company.com resolves to itself hence errors out on \\country.company.com\dept. A alone is running DHCP with "scope options > DNS Ser...

it certainly makes no sense to me :-x

WesleyDavid

COFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEE!!!!!

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid even coffee can't make that mess sensible :P

WesleyDavid

When you have enough coffee to alter your perception of space and time ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!

voretaq7

100 cups

WesleyDavid

03:34

GOOGLY SCRIBBLES YAR HE TOFU!!

And technically it wasn't "coffee" it was coffee concentrate used for making coffee flavored slushies.

voretaq7

ew?

WesleyDavid

IT TASTES LIKE LIFE!!

ALL MY THOUGHTS ARE IN CAPS LOCK!!

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WesleyDavid

04:36

Goodness Windows's whole disk management is messed up. The way dynamic and basic partitions have so many stilted, weird restrictions and caveats that make no sense. It's just a matter of memorizing the mess.

Semi-random release of frustration.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid you mean "memorizing the mess for each OS version"

WesleyDavid

@ShaneMadden Basically. Like, Windows can see NTFS on a dynamic partition, but can't format it that way unless you force it.

Dynamic partitions can only be moved amongst server or "Pro" editions... which is fine I suppose.

Oh, and @womble, how are you so certain that it's a rDNS slowdown? What am I missing?

womble

04:51

@WesleyDavid That was me completely misreading the ping data. Deleted and reanswered.

Shane Madden

@womble Yeah, I read it as seconds at first, too.

Probably a slow application, but that ping's fine

...unless you're running a system where the RAM and CPU are in different data centers.

WesleyDavid

@ShaneMadden I couldn't tell if the front end and back end are in different DCs. That's kinda how I interpretted it.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid Still, a maximum ping of 3.5 ms.. that's nothing, yet he's claiming the pings "aren't fast enough". He's confused.

WesleyDavid

Yeah, I didn't catch on to that either.

Just read "slow ping - do this" rather than verified the facts.

Coffee is wearing off. I'm now down to normal levels of stupid.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid lol, well, the questioner being already running in one direction with an issue makes it hard. Just the facts, with none of the assertions that they've made, would be great.

WesleyDavid

05:00

Is that 3.5 ms or 3.5 seconds? 21 pings cost 20,000 ms

So if it was 3.5 ms, where's the couple ten thousand ms come from?

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid 1s delay between pings. His response times are in ms.

WesleyDavid

ohh, derp

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid 21 packets transmitted ... time 20011ms

WesleyDavid

Three nearly identical answers. Who gets the green check mark! It's like a geek version of The Bachelor.

Joseph didn't even try, so he's out.

Me vs Womble. straightens tie and spritzes binaca

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid I'm gonna bet on whoever posts a 6 word answer of: "there's nothing wrong with that ping"

WesleyDavid

05:05

@ShaneMadden Do it! Do it! Do it!

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid I already commented it. I'm gonna give him a lecture on the speed of light if he responds to my comment. ;)

WesleyDavid

Maybe he's not agreeable to the constance of c

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid Potentially. If he's accelerated the speed of light, then 1.8 ms may indeed be far too slow.

In other news. This is already closed, but it's so phenomenally "WTF" that I think it deserves pointing out:

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Q: Execute code on server ping

If my server is pinged, I want to be able to execute code that not only is sent back to the "pinger" but also logged. What is the best way in achieving this? I'm running a Linux server, so any code would be written in pearl.

ping

WesleyDavid

Yeah, I was going to post that, but wasn't sure I wanted to waste the photons.

You know he's just doing it to either prank a buddy or piss off someone that decided to use his server to pingtest their network.

Shane Madden

I'm running a Linux server, so any code would be written in pearl.

execute code that not only is sent back to the "pinger"

I just.. I wonder sometimes.

WesleyDavid

05:10

I AM RUNNING A COMPUTER SO ANY CODE WILL BE IN ASSEMBLAGE LANGUAGE

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid any code must be given in the form of a punch card

WesleyDavid

"pinger" didn't bother me so much. I say "pinger" and "pingee" or perhaps "ponger." Unless I'm equally warped, which is a definite possibility.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid Sure, but, sending the "code" back to the pinger? Wrong on so many levels

WesleyDavid

I want to know the backstory.

Although, "pearl" is closer to the original intent of the name that perl comes from.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid I'm not sure that I do. I mean, pings of death are all well and good, but I don't think SF is the place for asking how to write a custom ICMP handler that responds to all requests with 66 KB responses..

WesleyDavid

05:14

No, certainly not. Stuff like that is what IRC was invented for.

That and role playing.

Shane Madden

On second thought, those questions could be fun. "I'm getting DDoSed so I've got my server set up to DDoS those fools right back."

"Help me troubleshoot the communication between the attacked node and the zombie swarm"

MikeyB

05:57

@ShaneMadden That is just a spectacular level of fail. I doubt he's trying to do anything nearly as clever as IP over ICMP.

WesleyDavid

Dynamic disks that were upgraded from basic disks still contain a partition table, it's just moved. Dynamic disks made from unallocated space do not have a partition table. Thus you cannot install Windows Server on a dynamic disk unless it was previously a basic disk. Microsoft, just... no.

And the room comes alive all at once.

Shane Madden

@WesleyDavid I blame @MikeyB

Shane Madden

06:24

Jeez, already just 6 votes away from rep cap for the day. Someone come up with a good question for me to throw a bounty on in the morning, so I don't have a bunch of rep fall into the void again. Sleep time.

Iain

07:09

G'day

Chopper3

07:47

morning

Iain

how was rochdale ?

Chopper3

a dank shithole that I was glad to escape from - work went well though

finally got around to taking some photos actually

you ok

Iain

I'm fine - at least you brought some good weather with you for the day :)

Chopper3

08:03

had a new array going in, just wanted to see it got in safe, yeah, weather up there was ok

Iain

which array ?

Chopper3

a new 3par one

pauska

08:22

@chopper3: ordering the VNX today

:D

Chopper3

very nice, what specs

pauska

all the bells and whistles when it comes to the software

hardware wise its a VNX 5300 with block/nas, 27 10k disks, 6 2tb disks and 2 100gb ssd's for fastcache

plus emc recoverypoint

oh and 10gig iscsi.. screw fcoe, not worth it :)

(since we already have iscsi)

Chopper3

are the 2TB disks '100%/24 hour duty cycle' disks? a lot are only 30% - worth checking

Oh and I love FCoE

pauska

08:39

yeah they are those heavy duty stuff, all from separate batches

I know you love FCoE, but for a small shop like us the fancy fcoe switches isnt worth it

we save alot of money to just run everything on regular ethernet

in a nutshell it means that we one day will end up with two 10gig switches for everything considering storage and ethernet for all servers, and two 3750's for everything else

Chopper3

really like 3750's - got one here in fact

pauska

they are workhorses indeed, got two 3750-x switches and they do all core switching and routing for us

its pretty sweet to have a switch with ipservices image on it, considering that you get VRF's with it

Chopper3

they do bog down a bit with ACLs but otherwise they're great value

wanna see my (about to go live) data centre?

tombull89

08:55

@Chopper3 ooh, me, me. GIMME PICS.

Chopper3

buckley-mellor.com/phil/rd/IMG_0197.jpg buckley-mellor.com/phil/rd/IMG_0200.jpg buckley-mellor.com/phil/rd/IMG_0202.jpg buckley-mellor.com/phil/rd/IMG_0203.jpg buckley-mellor.com/phil/rd/IMG_0199.MOV

SmallClanger

Woof. Get a load of the rack on that...

tombull89

"open picture" oh this is only going to be a small dat-OMGWTFBBQ>

Chopper3

yeah, I don't mess about

tombull89

all HP servers/racks?

Chopper3

09:06

99%

tombull89

Is this all VoD as well, or other roles?

that's what I call a datacenter :P

SmallClanger

I noticed the HP racks, are those C7000s in them?

Chopper3

yeah, one or two per rack

plus quite a bit of HP/3Par storage which use the same racks

SmallClanger

What's the big blue thing in the first one? A time machine?

Chopper3

PDU

tombull89

09:09

@SmallClanger I was going to ask the same thing, I guessing something power related?

....

yah

Chopper3

the cool thing is we've got our logo printed out onto those PDUs, well actually cut out of metal in fact, suppliers just did it

SmallClanger

Nice touch.

Chopper3

09:41

anyone doing VCP5 soon?

it's HOOFING it down here, like Mordor

pauska

VCP? I dont need a certificate to prove my skills!

(bleh.. yeah, I should get one)

SmallClanger

@Chopper3: Did you get yours done in the end?

Chopper3

I did the beta one but still need to take the proper one after the 30th august

@pauska it's cheap enough

I've just spent the last hour configuring a random number generator - really

odd eh

pauska

thats pretty random work

BA-DUM-TSSSSH!

Chopper3

:)

tombull89

09:49

oh jeeze.

Graham Perrin

10:05

Is humbug.in/serverfault/es/… an acceptable representation of serverfault.com/q/14660/91969 ? … there's a small acknowledgement "Content from Serverfault" more than halfway down to one side, but it's not immediately obvious.

Chopper3

agreed, google translate is word-for-word

that said as everything on SE is CC I don't know the status of what they've done @Kyle what do you think

Graham Perrin

Ah, humbug.in it's clearer what's going on, various stacks … Spanish under the heading STACK EXCHANGE

pauska

so they just translate everything and add a ton of ads in the middle of the answers etc

Chopper3

10:21

seemingly

SmallClanger

I'd love to meet people who think it's a viable business model to wholesale scrape other people's content and display it in a slow, ugly website stuffed with ads.

womble

Delightful.

SmallClanger

That way I could stick sharp things in them.

tombull89

The worst sites are song lyrics. Go one one, just one and BOOM DANCING CURSORS SMILEYS ALL SORTS OF RUBBISH.

pauska

@SmallClanger considering that many of us have spent several hours combined on improving this site, I'd love to "meet" them

with a bat.. or two

Chopper3

10:24

and so many of those lyric sites get them wrong

SmallClanger

@pauska: Cue Pantera's "5 Minutes alone". :)

Chopper3

thing is guys, we all joined this place knowing our work was going to be CC - so we can't complain can we, such is life

that said I do believe that karma catches up with people

pauska

thats true

Chopper3

so maybe one day when you hear about some dude who ripped his head off by hitting a protruding metal spike while on a jetski just try to imagine it's the same guy who made that site - that's what I think

womble

@Chopper3 I don't remember anything in the CC licence saying "You can't complain when some bottom-feeding cocksocket tries to make the Internet just that little bit more crap".

Chopper3

10:31

I didn't say can't complain, just that it's kind of pointless

womble

@Chopper3 You said "we can't complain"

Chopper3

ah, I did, sorry, more of a british term than anything

womble

Awwww, Lucas didn't like me linking to the Apache manual to answer his inane question about AllowOverride...

pauska

10:51

Bah.. I have a spare DL380 G6 right now, and I wanted to build a super sleek backup storage server out of it

FreeBSD9 with ZFS was a tempting solution, but ZFS hates everything and everyone who has a SAN without JBOD support (as ZFS wants to be the trick-of-trades, doing everything from RAID to files)

now im trying DragonflyBSD with the HAMMER filesystem, and im literally drowning in kernel errors with the network card and ACPI errors

Why cant Microsoft just finish WinFS

or atleast release an updated version of NTFS with dedup

tombull89

@pauska STOP! HAMMERTime!

Chopper3

11:14

@pauska can't you just either a) let your Pxxx controller manage the array and let ZFS think it has only one disk or b) carve up your Pxxx-created array into multiple logical drives and expose them to ZFS?

pauska

@Chopper3 well this dragonflybsd isnt working out for me, so I'll probably have to go that route

(except that its not the P410 controller, its a iSCSI EMC AX4-5i)

I'll probably just create 2 large RAID6 volumes and stripe them together with ZFS

I'll loose all recovery abilities with ZFS, but so be it..

hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/…

Chopper3

I don't know that controller, can it not expose disks in a JBOD way?

pauska

11:31

nope

or well, I dont know if I can expose single-disk raid0 volumes

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Q: Is it ethical to hack real systems?

Is it ethical to hack real systems owned by someone else? Not for profit, but to test your security knowledge and learn something new. I talk only about hacks, which does not make any damage to system, just proves there are some security holes.

networking security hacking learning ethics

belongs on security.se ?

ooooold thread though

pauska

11:53

gah i'm trying to get the deupty badge, not enough stuff to flag!

Chopper3

that badge may as well be called the 'keep mods busy' badge

pauska

<3

Ben Pilbrow

@pauska you're clearly not trying hard enough :P

ITHedgeHog

AFternoon folks

Chopper3

hey

Scott Pack

12:13

@ITHedgeHog This weekend, right?

ITHedgeHog

Yeah

Scott Pack

Not long now.

Chopper3

just bucketing down here

ITHedgeHog

Yeah same here @Chopper3 really need some good weather on SAturday

Chopper3

can barely see, almost at fog-level

ITHedgeHog

12:20

I need to go and grab some food, but its wet... how long will my hunger hold out?

SmallClanger

@Chopper3: guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/18/floods-hit-bournemouth

Chopper3

it really is quite biblical here

luckily we're way above any flood plain and I don't need to go into town at all today

ITHedgeHog

12:39

Hunger has won

SmallClanger

Getting pretty deep in some places, it seems: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-14574705

Chopper3

boom - central park's FEET deep

Holocryptic

Is there an official place to report phishers?

oo, that sounds like a good official question

Chopper3

12:55

dunno - depends on what they're fishing for - I've had ones supposedly from my bank that I went on to report to my bank before now

Holocryptic

impersonating IRS

Chopper3

IRS then, something tells me they may just act on it

Scott Pack

I would first send the email out to the abuse@ address for their ISP.

Most of the time that crap is just a compromised account or machine on their network.

You can also forward the message to [email protected]

They might not actually do anything with it, but if a case is being built, it could help pile on some more evidence.

Holocryptic

cool beans thanks

I think I may draft up a question for the main site

Scott Pack

In both cases, make sure to forward the email with full headers.

Holocryptic

12:59

This may sound stupid

How do you ensure that?

Scott Pack

The easiest way is to forward as an attachment

SmallClanger

Depends on the mail client.

Holocryptic

outlook

07 I believe. I'll have to double check

SmallClanger

Start a new message, then drag the other one from your folder into the attachments.

as @scott says, it'll send it as an attached eml file which contains all the headers.

Scott Pack

Ctrl+Alt+F

SmallClanger

13:01

Neat. Didn't know that one.

Scott Pack

We can do a lot more with the headers :)

Holocryptic

Fantastic

Scott Pack

@Holocryptic You might find this an interesting read: onguardonline.gov

Holocryptic

@ScottPack LOL at the games section

Scott Pack

Yeah, they're pretty cheesy.

Holocryptic

13:06

So here's a question. Should I draft a question for SF, or Sec?

Scott Pack

It's pretty much all aimed at Joe Public, so a lot of the wording and information can be pretty freaking basic.

How to respond when receiving phishing?

Holocryptic

yes

hmmm, maybe not sf

Scott Pack

I'd say put it over on sec. I usually try to make the distinction by looking at my organization and determining whose job duties it would clearly fit in.

Holocryptic

Done

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Q: What are common/official methods of reporting spam/phishing/nasty-grams to organizations?

A user of mine just received a phishing email claiming to be the IRS. What methods of reporting are available, and what should be included?

email spam

Canonical question FTMFW

Scott Pack

I like that acronym

Holocryptic

13:20

haha

Jacob

13:33

@Holocryptic check new answer

@ScottPack , @Holocryptic buy any Cisco equipment lately?

(Past 2 years)

Scott Pack

@Jacob I don't, that's up to the network guys.

Jacob

@ScottPack Could you steal one of the discs with the auto execute to malware site and copy it for me :)

I want to take a look at one

but I've not picked up any Cisco equip lately

Holocryptic

negative, nothing recently

Jacob

@Holocryptic Past 2 years?

Dec 2009 to now

Holocryptic

nope

Scott Pack

13:38

@Jacob A) Not so much, B) See A.

Jacob

@ScottPack Copy that

pauska

@Jacob huh?

Jacob

@pauska zdnet.com/news/cisco-cd-contains-malware/6273015

SmallClanger

Want: youtube.com/watch?v=im1iNq02Kz0

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pauska

jesus

thats embarrasing

tombull89

13:45

It would be neat if it didn't require the boat following you around.

SmallClanger

@tombull89 I'm not sure it does, just that massive hose dangling in the water.

Chris S

@Jacob Took them 9 months to notice after they sent the CDs out... That's worse than sending the malware out in the first place.

tombull89

The jet pack in the video runs off of water. It's the first of its kind. The tube you see attached to it, that goes into the water, goes into a gas powered small boat that follows whenever the jet pack pilot is flying (if you look close in the video you can see it)

Chris S

@SmallClanger Yeah; there's a boat with a large gas powered pump following the guy around. The system has been around for several years now.

SmallClanger

Actually, yes, I see it now.

Just neatly clipped out of most of the shots.

Chopper3

13:53

who the hell would use any CD that came with hardware? it's always out of date, you'd always download newer stuff right?

Chris S

@Chopper3 Well there was a guy in here yesterday asking questions (and not listening) who was using dialup... So I'm sure there are people out there.

pauska

I never use them

tombull89

@Chopper3 hp drivers cough hp drivers

Chopper3

@ChrisS I'm trying to imagine what country he was in - drawing a blank...somalia?

Chris S

I found it amusing that a new HP UPS we got came with "Documentation and Safety Information" on CD, and a piece of paper with the weblink to the drivers and software.

Scott Pack

13:55

I'm not sure I've ever even seen a Cisco cd. I'm with @Chopper3 on this one. Download the firmware from your support portal.

Chopper3

exactly

I actually racked something yesterday - just for nostalgia reasons, took twice as long to do it as the guys I normally get to do it who were stood behind me (presumably tittering to themselves)

tombull89

I think the worst package I ever got was a for an HP printer driver with a link to download it off the website because the entire suite was too big to fit on a cd (~750mb). For a HP Laser Printer. I was not amused. just give me the server 100kb .cab files ffs.

Chris S

@ScottPack I guess it wasn't anything that comes with the product; it's something they send out on a regular basis to support customers (probably only to customers who specifically request/pay for it)

Scott Pack

@Chopper3 Fancy new spring loaded clip in jobs, or did you have to screw in the rails?

Chris S

@tombull89 Must have been for one of their "Home" printer products. They love to bundle 4GB of shit with the 2MB driver.

Chopper3

13:58

@ScottPack very much the latter - one of these; safenet-inc.com/products/data-protection/… I let the other guys put in the other 3

Scott Pack

@ChrisS Oh, those things that go from the envelope to the shredder. Right.

Chopper3

@ChrisS agreed, my HP printer/scanner/teasmade etc. comes with ridiculous drivers, even when downloaded - "no I don't want you to order replacement ink for me after the first page no"

Scott Pack

@Chopper3 Ooo...fancy

tombull89

@ChrisS I think was a home-business printer thing that the school had "acquried" from a parent...real PITHA.

Chopper3

not really

pauska

13:59

mounting hp servers is no fun

Scott Pack

Based on the case design, I'm guessing those were shit rails too.

pauska

it takes 30 seconds

Chopper3

@pauska that's why I just buy the blade enclosures pre-installed in the racks

Chris S

@ScottPack They still make the type you need a screw driver for? Haven't seen those for years.

tombull89

@Chopper3 Unless I really need to, I'll use the Windows 7 drivers for my printer at home. Don't get any of the guff.

Chopper3

14:00

@ScottPack very much so, 4-bolt 'ears'

@tombull89 I'm a mac user at home but this HP thing needs stuff for the non-printer bits like scanning tools etc.

is this guy trying to make work for himself or is it me? serverfault.com/questions/302556/…

Chris S

Geez it'd be nice if there was a universal printing language, we could call it Printer Script (or PS for short).

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Jacob

@Chopper3 It was warranty info

pauska

@ChrisS we have canon printers here.. not only do they have PCL5/5e/PS, but also Canons own special language called UFR II wich they impose on us

I HATE printers

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Holocryptic

@pauska UnFuckingReadable? Part 2?

SpacemanSpiff

@pauska - so don't print :)

pauska

14:04

@SpacemanSpiff we're sysadmins, remember?

Chris S

We have 2 models of HP laserjets around the office; and 1 more model (also laserjet) for "field work"

Chopper3

@SmallClanger water jetpack fail; failblog.org/2011/07/14/epic-fail-photos-jet-pack-fail

tombull89

@ChrisS you mean "taking out to a field and smashing it to bits"?

Chopper3

at {main customer} they've outsourced printing, no idea how much they pay but the only printers in the place are these SUPER fast double-sided colour Xerox lasers that can scan directly to your email (in .pdf or tiff formats) very fast too and when they run out of crap they fix it in like 15 mins or something - no way can that be cheaper than just owning their own kit.

Chris S

@tombull89 No; we have people who go to other businesses and need to print. Some businesses get funny about you using their printers, so we have to bring our own.

tombull89

14:09

office space reference: DENIED.

SpacemanSpiff

Isn't Apple working on something like that?

tombull89

@ChrisS NOO YOU BE USING MAH INK.

MarkM

YA, I JUST GOT FAMOUS QUESTION!

woooooooo

Chris S

@tombull89 We charge you an extra $100/day for our printer.... It's not Ink; it's almost exclusively security concerns. Their IT doesn't know if we're bringing a virus into their network or whatever.

Chopper3

@MarkM the office 2010 one? woo!

Chris S

14:11

Though we've got all their financial data... so... not sure what harm they think we're going to do.

MarkM

Haha yeah. It's a shit problem, but apparently a lot of other people have it too haha.

pauska

@Chopper3 We've outsourced them aswell

Chopper3

@pauska it's a seriously good product/service - way better than is required - who prints?? but it must cost a fortune

@pauska I do love your new icon - every time I see it I think "who's the new lesbian?"

:)

pauska

!!!!

I DO NOT LOOK LIKE A LESBIAN! TAKE THAT BACK!

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Chopper3

in tiny icon form it just looks that way to my twisted eye

ok, I take it back :)

SmallClanger

14:22

I just made someone swear...

SpacemanSpiff

hrmm..

SmallClanger

Created a folder on their desktop called "How do you keep an idiot busy" containing only a shortcut to itself.

SpacemanSpiff

of course, i have to try that

pauska

@SmallClanger thats blocked on windows 7

"You can't create a shortcut to itself"

SmallClanger

You can if you create it elsewhere and drop it in.

Stack Exchange

14:29

The Nubby SysAdmin: Behold a Buzzword is Born: High Recoverability

posted on August 18, 2011 by Wesley David

In a recent blog post, I collated all of my writings on High Availability that Simple-Talk has published. I always try to solicit my readers’ advice since I know that my own understanding is likely well below many of yours. I’ve only been in this industry for a relatively short amount of time (I count 2004 to be when [...]

SpacemanSpiff

if you change your avatar, how long until it takes effect?

hobodave

morning

ITHedgeHog

@SpacemanSpiff It's a piece of string

SpacemanSpiff

ohh one of those.

and just like that, BAM it changes, haha

ITHedgeHog

lol

Chris S

14:42

@SpacemanSpiff Usually 3 or 4 minutes.

ITHedgeHog

Is now the time to realise that I've left my fiancees wedding present at work

Holocryptic

hahahaha! My coworker just put a 20MB mailbox size limit for a clients Exchange. Now the client is wondering why they can't send email. ROFL

Shane Madden

Ok, now I really need a good question to put a bounty on.. 2 votes from cap with 9 hours left in the day. Suggestions? Anyone got an old unanswered one?

Holocryptic

15:05

Even better. I fixed the mailbox size issue, then called the customer and told him I kicked off a manual online defrag to save the day (and my coworkers ass)

win

Shane Madden

@Holocryptic 20 MB is pretty.. uh.. slim. Where'd he come up with that idea? lol

Holocryptic

@ShaneMadden He thought he was setting message delivery/receipt limits

oops

Shane Madden

@Holocryptic Haha, ouch.

Holocryptic

Yeah

It happens

Hell, I've locked up production Exchange boxes before.

Luckily I had someone else on hand to unwedge it

Shane Madden

My last job, management insisted on NO size limits. That lasted until someone emailed an .ISO of a music CD to their gmail and brought one of the transport servers to its knees. Exchange's transport "back pressure" is funny sometimes.

Holocryptic

15:13

hahaha

SpacemanSpiff

I faked a Groupwise POA outage once, to get my point across

Shane Madden

@SpacemanSpiff Bold

SpacemanSpiff

I had a Mac user whose mailbox caused the process to abend if she was accessing the post office via IMAP directly instead of through the GWIA because she had 6000 messages in her main Inbox

Groupwise has a known issue with anything over 5000

Shane Madden

@SpacemanSpiff Ahh, groupwise. I'm glad I wasn't around at its height.

SpacemanSpiff

So, I left it down for about 2 hours

Chopper3

15:18

SO tempted to answer "...training..."; serverfault.com/questions/302598/…

Shane Madden

@Chopper3 Haha, that is tempting. I'm just clicking my "not a real question" button and moving on before I get any ideas ;)

Holocryptic

I'm not opposed to a question trying to find resources. We have similar questions about malware and security feeds

Maybe some of those links can be brought down as an answer

hobodave

hey guys, I tried to test our internet connection in our new office yesterday and hit a weird roadblock. I'm about to head over in a few to try again. Im hoping I can bounce what I saw off you guys for sanity checking/validation.

our network is 207.241.32.56/29 (.56 - .63). Our WAN gateway is 207.241.32.57

our router (pfsense) worked fine here in this office on a different network

I set it up prior to leaving to have a static IP of 207.241.32.58, using .57 as the gateway

when I arrived at the new office, the technician was finishing up the wiring of our cat5 drops

his laptop was connected directly to our internet drop, he was using IP 207.241.32.58 and gateway 207.241.32.57 -- his internet worked just fine

so I unplugged his laptop and put that in the wan side of our router, rebooted everything (multiple times) but I could never get to the internet

any attempts at pinging or tracerouting stopped dead at the .57 gateway

I couldn't get to any IP address besides 207.241.32.57

Shane Madden

@hobodave Mask on the public int set to 255.255.255.248?

hobodave

@ShaneMadden it was configured as /29 as far as I could tell

pfsense does it that way as opposed to subnet notation

we switched the wan cable back and forth a few times, his laptop worked, but not our router

and the building mgr supposedly was there this morning with a spare router that "worked fine"

MarkM

15:32

@hobodave what's the WAN gateway?

hobodave

207.241.32.57

Shane Madden

Oh, you could hit the gateway.. hmm. That smells like a routing issue. Haven't used pfsense terribly recently - I'm wondering if there's anything else you need to do to get the default route to take aside from configging the interface's gateway

MarkM

I meant what type of device is it

hobodave

I believe he said it was a Cisco something or other

MarkM

Ah, not something in your control

hobodave

15:32

our drop goes into a cisco switch and then into a cisco router

Shane Madden

Pulled the bounty trigger on serverfault.com/questions/299361/… if anyone's interested ;)

hobodave

the only idea I had was that it could have been an ARP conflict?

could that switch or router been stingy with refreshing the MAC addresses?

Shane Madden

@hobodave If you can ping the gateway, ARP's working beautifully. My money's on an issue with routing.

hobodave

@ShaneMadden my routing or the gateways?

MarkM

@hobodave in pfsense, does changing the WAN interface change the default route too?

Shane Madden

15:40

@hobodave Yours. When you enter a network to try to ping outside the connected subnets (where the gateway is), it needs to do routing to find out where to send the traffic. It should be that default gateway - but verify in the system's routing table that it's got a route for 0.0.0.0 bound for that .57 address

hobodave

@MarkM I'm not sure, I don't think I checked that

sounds like that could have been the issue

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