The Comms Room

Ry Jones

22:00

@Magellan for me MSP is MSN Service Protocol

Magellan

that's about all.

Jacob

@freiheit nopenopenope. I do not even want to know that ringworm of the groin even exists.

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BigHomie

@Magellan I think I glossed over Managed Service Provider, but it was either that or Microsoft Student Partners lol

freiheit

@Jacob You probably shouldn't google it and go to the wikipedia page, then. :)

Magellan

@DennisKaarsemaker I'll check. The setup for that is part of why I'm so grumpy at the moment.

freiheit

22:01

(no, really: do not go to the tinea cruris web page unless you're really prepared)

Jacob

@freiheit Google loads wiki inline these days.

freiheit

@Jacob At least it doesn't load the image inline, though...

Magellan

@freiheit Thank Heaven for Small Blessings?

freiheit

@Magellan That's an interesting penis nickname, but I guess it makes sense...

BigHomie

> The rash has sharply defined borders that may blister and ooze

Magellan

22:03

@freiheit Very Small Blessings. =D

Jacob

@Magellan That's a lot more than small... It was painful to read about if I saw a picture of groin ringworm I'd be sick and unable to get on a bike again.

@BigHomie Flagged that.

BigHomie

@Jacob For?

@Jacob You're a dude, you should know about these things.

Magellan

Hey now. Reserve flagging for me harrassing Kevin, okay?

BigHomie

it's also sfw oddly enough

Jacob

@BigHomie I didn't really.

I was making a funny about my gore tolerance.

Tanner

22:04

@BigHomie Flagged for Blatant Jackassery.

:P

BigHomie

@Jacob me either, but once you've had an std test, those things will cease to matter.

Jacob

@Magellan But that's actually rather appropriate

BigHomie

^

Jacob

@BigHomie Yeah, they gore you out with those photos. I do need to get tested though.

BigHomie

@Jacob flag whoever decides to onebox that though on the real

I have a feeling I know who it's gonna be

Jacob

22:06

@BigHomie Yeah, Onebox that and it's war

BigHomie

Oh I wasn't talking about me, but there are worse sfw things to onebox

Ry Jones

you guys need to toughen up. work in a hospital for a year

Jacob

Here's a better onebox. A brewery in progress, and my dad pipe-fitting.

BigHomie

@Jacob I...I...don't get it.

Jacob

Shifting the subject

Magellan

22:09

@RyJones A couple years in a mental health clinic would do well enough too. The nurses in the shelter I worked at found more than 50% of the known necrotizing fasciitis cases in the past 15 years.

BigHomie

@RyJones Yep

<< (works @ a medical school)

Jacob

@RyJones Actually, when I get in a little better of a shape I'm going to apply for the rescue squad

freiheit

@Jacob What's the brewery name? Is that a 20-barrel system with 4 fermenters?

Jacob

@freiheit O'Connor[oconnorbrewing.com/] I'd have to ask dad I just ran in to give him some parts and I had somewhere else to go.

BigHomie

@Magellan How's that even possible?? No one suspected the place was the cause?

Magellan

22:10

@Jacob You have any more pics? I know some home-brewing mechanical engineering types that would need some alone time with a setup like that.

Jacob

@Magellan Yeah

Magellan

@BigHomie No, the place was clean. The people are usually WAY crazy and end up in all sorts of strange environments.

BigHomie

@Magellan I'd still be suspect. Have you seen what that looks like?

/rhetorical

Magellan

@BigHomie Yes, unfortunately. I'm going to forget that we're having this conversation considering that I just ate lunch.

BigHomie

@Magellan Ok. <Silently decides not to onebox Necrotizing fasciitis wiki>

@Jacob That's wassup, I thought there was a dead body in the photo I had to find for a second

freiheit

22:13

:15674483 Mmmm.... I think when one of my local breweries did a huge upsizing recently, they borrowed from the bank and had it mostly paid off by the time the new stuff came online.

Ry Jones

I kills me how hard it is to open a distillery

you have to build it out and sit on it for a year+ while the ATF issues your permit

freiheit

@Jacob Glycol jacketed fermenters? :)

Ry Jones

@freiheit that's what woodinville whisky uses

freiheit

@RyJones And how hard it is to (legally) home distill compared to home brewing.

Ry Jones

@freiheit you can buy kits that work out-of-the-box pretty well

freiheit

22:16

@RyJones Most breweries do these days. Unless maybe they're small, only doing ales, and located someplace cool.

Tanner

@freiheit Mmmmm... Lagunitas...

Ry Jones

@Jacob best way to handle difficult customers is time and material

freiheit

@RyJones I don't which regs are state (California) and which are federal, but home distilling requires a permit, can't actually be done in a residence, etc... Home brewing you just buy a kit and do it on your stove and it's totally legal as long as you keep it under 200 gallons a year and don't sell it (and a few other things, I guess)

@Jacob Those kettles are huge

Ry Jones

@freiheit yes, I understand completely, I spent quite a bit of time and no small money looking into setting up a legal distillery

@Jacob I was a general contractor for about five years

Ryan Ries

Oh man, now that I have this Raspberry Pi to fuck around with, I'm gonna' be asking you guys so many basic-ass remedial Linux questions...

BigHomie

22:20

@RyJones Construction?

Ry Jones

T&M is a polite way to tell them to fuck off

BigHomie

@RyanRies Ban Him

Ry Jones

@BigHomie I put him on the ignore list

Jacob

@RyJones Really?

y?

How am I not worse than he is?

Ry Jones

@BigHomie residential construction, residential, commercial, and industrial interiors and painting

BigHomie

22:21

He ignores you to Yacob

Ry Jones

built subdivisions, painted a lot of CMU

freiheit

@RyJones You have everybody on your ignore list, don't you? ;)

BigHomie

@RyJones Yeah I was kidding, but looking at his server fault profile, I see he probably wasn't kidding.

Jacob

(Done deleting things. Sorry, can't leave things about customers on a google index chat)

Iain

I bet he doesn't have as many as me

Jacob

22:23

I actually need to send an email to Iain, and ask him to unignore me...

Ry Jones

four right now.

BigHomie

@Jacob You better b/c next time it's getting permalinked

Ry Jones

@Jacob so don't mention specifics

Jacob

@BigHomie I can mention them, I just can't leave what I said.

Matthew Ife

@Iain ignores even himself.

Ry Jones

22:23

man, even looking at the wikipedia article for CMU gives me flashbacks

BigHomie

@RyJones Central Mich?

Iain

@MatthewIfe it won't let me :(

Matthew Ife

Setup two accounts and ignore one another. Its the only reasonable compromise.

Jacob

@BigHomie Actually, there was a professor from Bangladesh that pronounced my name Yackub. It was rather irritating.

BigHomie

@Jacob yep. Back in the Day, there was no J

Jacob

22:25

Pedal time!

See you folks later.

Iain

@MatthewIfe I just ignore everyone else

Jacob

Achievement unlocked! Starlight: Rule the star wall!

Magellan

@Jacob Wesley does that a couple times each week.

BigHomie

@Magellan @Wesley has at least two stalkers though, @Yackub doesn't.

kce

Is installing .MSIs with GPOs a fools errand? I no longer have SCCM in $NewJob.

Ry Jones

22:35

@kce oh baby, I'm so sorry

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@kce did you join @cole in the land beyond time?

Magellan

@BigHomie Does @PauskaSock count? On second thought, I don't really want to know.

kce

@DennisKaarsemaker @RyJones - Small/Medium Business so no SCCM.

Ry Jones

@DennisKaarsemaker he's doing AJAX-over-smoke-signals

kce

(yet)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

22:36

@RyJones I think he already upgraded to telegraph

Ry Jones

@DennisKaarsemaker hmm, smoke over copper? Intriguing.

kce

@RyJones - So I'm taking your response to indicate that using GPOs to install software is, uh... painful.

Ry Jones

@kce you're re-inventing SCCM in CMD scripts

kce

@RyJones - All you need to say. :(

Ry Jones

I mean, the idea isn't as bad as it could be, but the results are bad. How do you rollback stuff? How do you ensure the install worked?

BigHomie

22:39

Apr 3 at 18:29, by BigHomie

kce

@RyJones - So it's basically just automating the running of the msiexec command and hoping that works.

Ry Jones

do you handle the guy on a cellmodem who logs in from a hotel in BFE, then you push a 400 meg installer?

@kce sure. I mean, it's been done, but there's a reason the industry moved on

BigHomie

@RyJones lol never heard that one

kce

@RyJones - Not in the SME-space. We're still walking to each machine to update software.

But yeah. I see your point.

Ry Jones

how many seats are we talking?

kce

22:42

Maybe I should just move the rest of our services into the "Cloud" and then look for new work.

~100 maybe

Ry Jones

tough place to be.

BigHomie

@kce is Windows Intune in the budget?

kinda small for sccm

kce

@RyJones - Yeah. I felt with 400-450 clients at $Job[-1] were just barely big enough for SCCM.

@BigHomie - Maybe. We got some "Cloud" management stuff with Meraki but it looks pretty basic so far.

Ry Jones

@BigHomie $6/user/month isn't too bad

freiheit

@kce puppet for windows?

Ry Jones

22:45

$600 a month is small change to support 100 seats, really

BigHomie

@RyJones beats sneakernet, especially for a distributed environment

Magellan

@kce Seattle.

Ry Jones

I read a great quote today: "You can replace every mention of the Cloud with Virginia with full fidelity"

kce

@Magellan - что?

@freiheit - Yeah. Maybe PowerShell. Maybe Windows InTune.

Ry Jones

twitter.com/seldo/status/469535527830429696

Magellan

22:47

@kce Lots of jobs here. =)

Ry Jones

@Magellan I hear Chef is still hiring

freiheit

@RyJones github.com/panicsteve/cloud-to-butt

Ry Jones

@freiheit nice

Magellan

@RyJones IT labor market's getting very tight right now.

kce

@Magellan - I don't have any Linux skills anymore. It's been like two years in the Windows small/medium business area. I am the dumb.

Ry Jones

22:49

@Magellan tight as in hard to find people or hard to find jobs?

Magellan

@RyJones former. We can't even hire people fast enough to match growth. It's crazy.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Magellan welcome to my life for the last 5 years :)

Ry Jones

@Magellan I know a guy at S that's interviewing (post layoffs, natch) and he has a ton of interviews

his impression of them is the same as yours

Magellan

@DennisKaarsemaker I don't envy you that. Really tough finding good people now.

Sirex

23:09

ugh. just got email from head of IT asking all users to reset their passwords. To a custom web form, over http.

84104

@Sirex Gross.

Sirex

on the plus side. finally getting central auth. 500 users with shadow files has been an eye opener.

freiheit

@Sirex So you got a phishing scam email from the IT boss? wow...

Sirex

yup.

Michael Hampton

23:24

Are you being pen tested?

freiheit

We make a specific point to never email URLs to users that they're expected to put their password into

Sirex

i really do wish. Any time i've overthought something like this and thought they were being clever enough to double bluff something, its turned out that no, they really are that dumb.

i'm hoping this will signal a slow move off of novell at least. trying to stay optimistic.

kce

@Sirex - NetWare is Life. NetWare is Love.

Sirex

like herpes ?

Wesley

@Sirex Like ringworm of the groin.

ewwhite

23:34

Anyone ever heard of the crypto virus?

One of my produce clients is infected.

MikeyB

@ewwhite Other than the obvious?

ewwhite

It encrypts the first 512k of files.

and renders the files inaccessible...

MikeyB

@ewwhite Cryptolocker eh?

ewwhite

the hacker requests $500 via Bitcoin to gain the unlock key

Mark Henderson

So, it's a bit dodgey that eBay doesn't have any notice on their website at all, even after you log in, and hasn't sent any direct communication to its members. Right?

ewwhite

23:36

and it increments $500 each day

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Sup fuckface?

:-*

Mark Henderson

The only reason heard about them being hacked was because I watched the nightly news that day. If I hadn't watched the news, I woudn't have known

@Wesley Lickin mah own butt

ewwhite

@MikeyB yes

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I know! I heard it from a friend. Reset my passwords last night. Sucked.

ewwhite

CryptoLocker

CryptoLocker is a ransomware trojan which targets computers running Microsoft Windows and first surfaced in September 2013. A CryptoLocker attack may come from various sources; one such is disguised as a legitimate email attachment. When activated, the malware encrypts certain types of files stored on local and mounted network drives using RSA public-key cryptography, with the private key stored only on the malware's control servers. The malware then displays a message which offers to decrypt the data if a payment (through either Bitcoin or a pre-paid voucher) is made by a stated deadlin...

Mark Henderson

23:37

Actually no I decided to let my wife sleep all night on Wednesday night to be nice because she was exhausted. And because of that she has mastitis now, so I have to stay home to look after her + kids

ewwhite

ransomware

Wesleyware

Wesley

@MarkHenderson What on earth.

MikeyB

@ewwhite @PauskaSock ware

Wesley

@ewwhite Groinwormware!

MikeyB

@ewwhite That is the suck.

Michael Hampton

23:38

Just to let everyone know, it will take some time for every eBay user to get our reset email. You can still go to eBay to change password.

Tweeted by ebayinc on May 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Mark Henderson

@Wesley I usually feed Sophie with one bottle either first or lsat feed of the night so Angela can get at least some span of sleep. But if you're breast feeding and you go too long without actually feeding your breasts get engorged and then infected and you get sick

Wesley

@MarkHenderson That's awful. =(

I hate it when my lactating breasts get infected.

kce

Life at my new job!

MikeyB

@MarkHenderson There was at least one time where I managed to feed the kid without waking up the wife.

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Yeah so Sophie woke up at midnight, I fed her a bottle, and then she didn't wake up till 6am so Angela hadnt fed her for 10+ hours

Wesley

23:39

@MarkHenderson So are you going to race @MikeyB for brood-size? You've only got like nine more to go to catch up!

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Fuck no

I found out this week that I'm too young to get a vasectomy

so I guess I'm not having sex until I'm like 32

MikeyB

@Wesley Well I'm a Christmas tree now so I've finished the race.

@MarkHenderson Too young??? Hmm.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson So nothing has changed then.

@MikeyB I've never heard that euphamism and I'm trying to put two and two together.

MikeyB

@Wesley The balls are just there for decoration.

Mark Henderson

Hah

It's a good thing I'm finding out about this @eBay breach on twitter rather than, you know, getting notified by the company.

Tweeted by aloria on May 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Wesley

23:41

Your trunk was cut and stuck in water to die... ?

@MikeyB Ah okay.

MikeyB

►

Mark Henderson

@Wesley I like your interpretation better

MikeyB

^ SFW

Wesley

@MarkHenderson So I'm going to be using Ruby/Sinatra to make a RESTful API tester. So there's that.

Am I #devops yet?

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Shit yeah

Oh btw apologies for saying that you worked at MONNGGGGGGGGGDB when of course you work at MONNGGGGGGGGGHQ

Is MongoDB even backed by a company?

Wesley

23:44

@MarkHenderson It has corporate backers I'm sure.

I mean, it's its own company that rakes in managed services fees, support contracts, and charges partners ass-poundings to be official partners.

Mark Henderson

Apparently there is a MongoDB company (kinda)

MongoDB Inc.

MongoDB Inc. (formerly 10gen) is a software company that develops and provides commercial support for the open source database MongoDB, a NoSQL database that stores data in JSON-like documents with flexible schemas. History The company was first established in 2007 as 10gen. Based in New York City, 10gen was founded by former DoubleClick founder and CTO Dwight Merriman and former DoubleClick CEO and Gilt Groupe founder Kevin P. Ryan with former Doubleclick engineer and ShopWiki founder and CTO Eliot Horowitz and received $81 million in venture capital funding from Flybridge Capital Partn...

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Yeah, it was called 10Gen before they changed names.

Kinda like how Opscode made Chef, and then changed business named to GetChef.

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson And I would never have known eBay was hacked if I hadn't read it here.

Mark Henderson

Fuck fuck fuck fuck I waited too long before buying Watch Dogs. It's now $79 on STeam, up from $59

I guess I will be asking someone to gift it to me

@MichaelHampton My wife called to me "Mark did you know ebay got hacked? Come watch this"

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Holla.

Bob

23:50

@MarkHenderson Yea, I was complaining about that recently. Then someone linked me to their official announcement, which says they'll email users "later today" or something.

I'm still waiting for that email.

That was two days ago.

MikeyB

@Bob I'm sure they've got an intern hard at work writing out the emails.

Bob

OTOH, I haven't bothered changing that password... just can't be fucking bothered.

What's the worst that can happen? No, really? If someone wants to use my ebay account to buy me something, by all means!

Actually... on second thought, depending on how their email reset works (if it works)... I should probably change it :S

Mark Henderson

@Bob The real problem is that now the hackers have your real name, your address, and your password and phone numbers

Identity fraud here we come

(Yes, the passwords were encrypted. Not hashed).

Bob

@MarkHenderson Not gonna make a difference if I change the password or not, is it? That's a different (and far more important) issue.

@MarkHenderson Are you fucking kidding?

Mark Henderson

@Bob Not really, but do it anyway

Bob

23:54

Tell me you're kidding.

Mark Henderson

@Bob Based on what I read eBay used weasle language. Unless they used "encrypted" to mean "hashed" to the layman - but I doubt it

Bob

@MarkHenderson Yea, I was wondering about that too.

Hopefully they actually mean hashed.

Mark Henderson

i doubt it though

Bob

Most people don't have any idea what a hash is.

Mark Henderson

And ebay is old enough that it's probably just md5 or something easily reversed

Wesley

23:54

@Bob That's illegal, isn't it?

Something do to with the marijuanas?

Bob

@Wesley What's illegal?

Wesley

Don't hashes have like nine marijuanas in them or something?

Mark Henderson

@Wesley If by marijuana you mean a salt, then no, most of them don't

(dont worry I know what you mean)

Bob

@MarkHenderson Urk.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I did worry there for a minute. =P

"Here at eBay Industries we hash all our user passwords with Rot13 and encrypt all our data with plaintext algorithms."

Dennis Kaarsemaker

23:57

@Bob Urk

Wesley

@DennisKaarsemaker Urk

Mark Henderson

@DennisKaarsemaker Looks like a nice place

Bob

@MarkHenderson You'd hope that they update to newer hash algos (say, on password change). Rather unfortunate that it seems so unlikely, no matter how important it is for security.

Makes me wonder how secure PayPal is.

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