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13:01
Was there a Chrome update? As of today, "Chrome" shows as "X-www-browser", and all the menus look... different.
@cole Cool, I need to get a small computer to use as a XBMC for my living room, I already have one for my BR, but not for the living room.
@cole nice
Have you built it up yet?
@BigHomie not yet, just got it last night.
Can't complain with free :)
@cole Are you going to use OpenELEC, XBMCbuntu, or just set it up manually?
@KevinSoviero thinking OpenELEC
I gotta check the memory and HDD on it. Thinking I'm going to need a bigger HDD?
@cole Ever used it before?
13:04
@KevinSoviero No I haven't.
morning
@cole I stream everything on mine, so HDD is irrelevant.
@KevinSoviero I could probably get away with streaming. I have Verizon FiOS 75/35
This is a Core2Duo probably 2GB of memory.
Oh sweet, it has 4GB
@cole I have ATT Uverse 16/1, and I can stream fine... ;)
Probably going to need to buy a card that does HDMI though
13:07
@KevinSoviero i used to work in a place like that...... life was so much better after I left
Half-sized card too - any recommendations?
@Colyn1337 How long were you there for?
@cole Newegg?
almost 3 years
@KevinSoviero well, I meant for an actual card.
@Colyn1337 I'll probably only stay for 2... If I'm not fired before that, that is.
@cole I know. ;)
13:08
I just started blocking the guy out who sits behind me.
how long have you been there?
@Colyn1337 A month or so.
oh shit, it's still early
gtfo if you can
@NathanC that should be fine I would think
13:09
Review says it can handle 1080p in XBMC...haha
@Colyn1337 I can't, and we've wanted to stab each other since my first day.
what you mean can't? oh wait, are u in a state with contracts?
@NathanC haha
I've seriously checked out of work for the week. I don't want to brain.
@Colyn1337 No, I only have like 6 months of actual experience, and no one else will hire me. :(
I don't want to brain either, but I have a nice pile of paperwork on my desk to go through...
13:11
oh
Wazup peeps
well, yea
how long has this guy been there?
Some reason robocopy is only copying 633GB of 953GB on our file server
sup @mossy
13:11
@Colyn1337 3 years... He's the team lead.
at its core, what is the driver behind the conflict?
@Colyn1337 I don't know... I honestly have no clue, or I would have already fixed it. For all I know, I remind him of the guy who cheated w/ his wife or something...
@cole Oh ya know. Reading emails. Looking out the window. Thinking about how my life would be different if I was born into a rich family. Picking nose
Just thursday stuff
@mossy ~*justthursdaythings*~
Oh what a deal:
hahah
13:14
Oh wait
that's an 8
Brain, does not work.
Dont worry. I could take my eye off the placement of your mouse cursor. didn't even see.
So I'm glad I got this free machine - now I can build my XBMC box for probably on $40 out of pocket and cancel cable :)
Nice.
@cole cough 1Channel and IceFilms cough xbmchub.com/blog
Starting to throw all my money at debt.
13:17
I have a question
wut?
What's the difference between XBMC and Plex?
@cole I'm working at an amusement park on weekends for extra cash ...and no, it won't be amusing.
I know plex is built off XBMC
13:17
but why
@NathanC I was thinking about driving for Lyft for extra $$
@mossy Cash, that's why. Plex has a paid subscription for the niftier stuff
@NathanC ah right.
@NathanC Like what?
@cole I'm pulling 32 hours in 3 days this weekend...3 double shifts
13:18
@cole Get that $
@ewwhite you can make like $500-$800 in a weekend.
@NathanC Are you a salaried employee?
Not sure I want to put that mileage on my car though.
@NathanC Gross.
@KevinSoviero No...this is for the summer job I got ha
13:19
@cole Uber and Lyft are popular here.
My girlfriend hooked me up with where she works. I was hired before I even filled out the application :P
@ewwhite Uber is super popular in Boston.
I need to figure out some sort of side hustle
Dan
Dan
@cole Would it upset if you if I said I'm pulling in $3300 over a weekend this weekend. Boom!
@Dan Do share.
Dan
Dan
@mossy Big project at the "throw money at it stage" and they're paying me $lots for 3 days over the bank holiday
13:22
"throw money at it stage" is the best stage
Dan
Dan
It is for me
What's scary, though, is that I'm a subcontractor to an outsourcing provider through many levels so how much is the client paying for the privilege
Bob
Bob
@JennyD import this
@Dan Not upset - good for you dude!
@KevinSoviero That sucks... You might want to consider mentioning that to HR or something
Dan
Dan
@cole :)
13:38
@Colyn1337 I did when I first got here, and they said they would move mountains to make things better... Then did absolutely nothing. shrug
They likely talked to him and he reassured them that things would be different
ask to setup a meeting between the two of you
that's if you want to resolve this
and just lay out what he does and how it affects you
since you're new, you're voice will carry more weight on this kind of thing
if you wait till the issue's been going on for a while, then HR might suspect you
but for now, you're pretty much as clean as a baby
Also, some HR's are nothing more than BS'rs
so...... yea. Those situations suck
most career coaches will tell you to gtfo
@Colyn1337 The thing is that I've had five jobs so far, and every single one has been so bad that people tell me to leave (all for different reasons, everything from travel to people issues)... I've just decided that this place is the least of all evils.
I don't know if it's the city I live in, or just bad luck on my part.
Could be bad luck
so far in my career I've worked in 2 really awesome places
13:45
@Dan Heh, that's wednesday for me.
but a whole hell of a lot of shitty ones
@Dan what are you working on?
the first was a medical environment
and then this one
Dan
Dan
@ewwhite Dull as fuck as it happens - for these few days I'm filling in a s a "Wintel/AD Scripting Engineer"
@Colyn1337 I've contemplated chucking my desk phone at his face... It would make me feel better, but HR might not appreciate the gesture.
13:50
no
@Dan hardcore contracting
they wouldn't
Dan
Dan
@ewwhite I'm a whore.
if you're resigned to stay, then try to work thru HR to get it resolved
you shouldn't bear the brunt of his rap cause you remind him of someone
@Dan Me too. I'm on my fourth trip of the month. Heading to Los Angeles to install servers
13:51
@KevinSoviero sorry if I missed this but why are things so bad between you and this guy? Personality clash? He was promised a private office but instead has to share with you? He's a jerk?
@Colyn1337 I don't actually know if that's what it is, just illustrating the point.
@dan how does a whore compare to a conslutant?
@RobM "He's a jerk?" Ya, that one.
oh gotchya
Dan
Dan
@RobM I'm just plain dirtier in whore mode. This weekend I'll do anything to get in, get paid and get the fuck out
Consluting is more for the long term, classy approach. All cuddles and kisses
13:52
@KevinSoviero so it's not a problem that can be fixed, short of a rivet gun, a vice, and several of his body parts then?
@dan heh... :)
@RobM Don't think I haven't contemplated such things... ;)
two words to remember: Plausible deniability.
@RobM So what you're saying is, that I should put botulism in his coffee?
Botulinum toxin is a protein and neurotoxin produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. It is the most acutely lethal toxin known, with an estimated human median lethal dose (LD-50) of 1.3–2.1 ng/kg intravenously or intramuscularly and 10–13 ng/kg when inhaled. Botulinum toxin (BTX) can cause botulism, a serious and life-threatening illness in humans and animals. Three forms of botulinum toxin type A (Botox, Dysport and Xeomin) and one form of botulinum toxin type B (MyoBloc) are available commercially for various cosmetic and medical procedures. History Justinus Kerner des...
Hell no. I'm saying it would be a shame if botulism was to find its way into his coffee in a manner that was a complete mystery to you.
13:56
@RobM lol... ;)
If he were to actually eat improperly prepared food and die from actual botulism, I'm so screwed...
And also that doctors would be less likely to test for Tetrodotoxin.
Dan
Dan
Are we about to see SF Chat in court for the first time?
@Dan See my previous comment
13:58
I'm just spinning plot ideas for my new novel here. As long as none of you steal my poisoning plot ideas there's no need to worry the courts...
@RobM If you need murder plots, let me know, I've got lots of inspiration.
gotcha
On a related note, anyone here from Australia?
@KevinSoviero Not at this hour. @Bob May be around, but it depends. Check around 5-7PM EST
@KevinSoviero I get Botox injections!
@Jacob Really?
14:11
@Jacob In the penis to last longer in bed?
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@RobM Do look up potassium poisoning.
Bob
Bob
@KevinSoviero Oh hi
@Jacob Oh that's pretty neat.
14:12
@MikeyB weill do.
@Bob Are there actually spiders and other poisonous things chasing you guys at all hours?
@KevinSoviero I'm from Australia but I live in London.
Bob
Bob
@KevinSoviero Yes, but the ones you really have to watch out for are the drop bears.
Fall into one of their ambushes, and you're good as gone.
@KevinSoviero Oh, that. Yeah, pretty much.
@Bob With drop bear insurance I'm protected if I ever travel to .au
14:14
A dropbear or drop bear is a fictitious Australian marsupial. Drop bears are commonly said to be unusually large, vicious, carnivorous marsupials related to koalas (although the koala is not a bear) that inhabit treetops and attack their prey by dropping onto their heads from above. They are an example of local lore intended to frighten and confuse outsiders and amuse locals, similar to the jackalope, hoop snake, wild haggis or snipe hunt. Various methods suggested to deter drop bear attacks include placing forks in the hair, having Vegemite or toothpaste spread behind the ears or in th...
drop bears are why their primary spoken language over there is screaming
much like wild haggis attacks in the scottish highlands over here.
och aye the noooooooooo
:)
One of my friends is on holiday on Syke atm the view out of his holiday cottage isn't as spectacular as it should be
rain?
It was nice in Huntly last month.
Dan
Dan
14:20
It's very up and down here righ tnow
@Jacob Drop bears aren't fictional!
(and rubbing Vegemite behind your ears deters EVERYTHING)
It sounds weird, but vegemite and butter is really good on toast.
Just don't put on nearly as much as the Aussies tell you
I have a thing of vegemite that is probably 3 years old, and it's not running out anytime soon.
And it will still probably run out before it goes bad.
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 Eh, we rely a lot on tourism. Can't really blame them for trying to make it seem safer. And it's statistically unlikely for any given tourist to die from a drop bear attack.
@RobM rain and mists - it's living up to it's Gaelic name
@MattSimmons s/vegemite/marmite/ and yeah
true enough
14:24
@MattSimmons Gaaah. Last time I tried to get hold of Vegemite, Customs seized it.
@Bob They rarely kill the tourists, but they kidnap babies and raise them as drop-bears :-)
@MichaelHampton Why?
@MattSimmons Violation of the hazardous materials import regulations I'm guessing :-)
@MattSimmons Hell if I know. Wasn't my lucky day? Customs agent wanted it for himself? They never told me.
14:25
That's silly. It's yeast paste
maybe.
The thing I always want to bring in and can't are Kinder Eggs.
@MattSimmons As opposed to Crueler Eggs?
Congratulations techtarget / computer weekly: Spamming the guy who runs the email system wins you a place on the domain-wide blacklist.
@MarkHenderson Mongo... HQ not DB.
@Wesley God, Root, What is difference?
14:28
@Wesley HISSS
@voretaq7 Dude, a User Friendly reference?
@voretaq7 Do you know anything about FreeBSD?
@MattSimmons Yeah, I looked them up
Seriously, you want to import those things here?
@voretaq7 Well, A) they're all sugar, but they taste good
@voretaq7 B) There's zero chance of someone choking on one
@ewwhite No, not a damn blessed thing. They changed the installer and everything I ever loved is gone :(
There is me, trying to get a Kinder Egg toy in my mouth
and pkgng makes me feel dirty!
@voretaq7 Can you tell me if this is correct?
14:32
@ewwhite maybe
I just don't know if FreeBSD's fdisk -l works the same way
or what the block devices will look like
@voretaq7 Century Eggs!
@voretaq7 or if you have the snapvol property
@Wesley ohay. how's new job?
@mossy Lots of "The fuck is this? The fuck is that?!"
Just trying to get the hang of where everything is.
Logins, information stores, workflows.
14:35
@voretaq7 geez, my plane just hit the wake of another aircraft
Very cool people though.
Dan
Dan
@Wesley Oh hey, 'grats!
@Dan Smooches
it's storming well here
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 Nah, you got them mixed up with dingoes.
14:41
Flight attendant fell on her ass.
Internet still works
@ewwhite she has the internet in her ass ?
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@Iain We are in the cloud(s).
weirder and weirder
@ewwhite YO DAWG
@MikeyB yeah
Who wants a pimp job in Chicago that's probably well into the 6-figures?
Competitive salary
401(k) with company matching
Five weeks of paid vacation per year plus 10 paid holidays
Free breakfast, lunch, and snacks on a daily basis
Free gym membership
Have you ever made patch cables? If so, where and how many?
Bob
Bob
14:46
What's a 401(k)?
@ewwhite I think FreeBSD has snapvol
Have you ever installed Linux? If so, how?
@ewwhite how far did you get rolled?
Bob
Bob
Oh, retirement thingy.
@voretaq7 about 20 degrees to the left
freaked everyone out
14:47
@ewwhite . . . "non-standard separation"?
("we done got too damn close!")
@voretaq7 we're at 33,000 feet
this wasn't at takeoff
@ewwhite that is somewhat unusual
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 "somewhat"
@ewwhite Damn, that looks like a job that even I could do with my limited experience
@Bob it happens from time to time, it's a pretty crowded sky
14:48
@voretaq7 Pilot got on and explained... "See, it's like a freeway... and we went into the wrong lane... and hit a rumble strip"
"My bad"
@ewwhite <adds to the list of explanations to never use>
"But it's OK, we missed the tree!"
how many people weren't wearing their seatbelts and got knocked around? :)
dude across the aisle spilled his cereal
I don't know how the folks in the back did
@NathanC welcome to finance
@ewwhite Based on what they're looking for it's probably one of those jobs that you spend half the day making cables and the other half in the ceiling running them
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 I was happier not knowing that.
And occasionally dabbling in Linux making sure shit aint broke :P
14:53
@Bob This is why you keep the goddamn seat belt on at all times no matter what the little sign says.
@NathanC nope... it's a trading firm. You'll be idle most of the time (trading hours) other than helping with user requests
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 That sounds like a good idea.
I don't know why people hate seatbelts so much :\
I don't even notice them anymore.
@ewwhite If relocation to chicago were an immediate option and I wasn't neck deep in a project I'd be all over something like that ha
@Bob old people
Dan
Dan
@NathanC Don't let yourself be caught by the fact that you're "doing something" at yoru current place, becuase we're always "doing something"
You can leave in the middle of a project without dicking people, it just takes care
14:56
@Bob I don't know why people insist on taking them off in an airplane. where the fuck are you going to go?!
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 Makes me wonder if anyone was taking a shit during the incident :P
@Dan With this particular project I'm the main "knowledgebase" of sorts. If I leave the project is basically without its main contributor ha. But it's not really about that ...it's more of I don't think my girlfriend would like me moving to Chicago either :p so there's a lot of thoughts behind moving out of state. Eventually though...
@Bob Makes me wonder why men insist on trying to pee standing up on an airplane.
Like half the office will be out on PTO tomorrow :( I should've used the rest of mine too!
@Bob "It's...it's...*everywhere* "
damnit markdown, you had one job
@voretaq7 Mile-high, bitches!
15:00
@ewwhite You can do that wearing the seatbelts.
@NathanC ITYM: "It's…it's… everywhere "
@ChrisS So far from civilization they need their own power generation equipment?
Yep need those damn spaces.
@MikeyB Stop trying to outsmart Markdown. Just accept that it hates you.
15:02
@ewwhite Because that went so well for this lady (kinda funny actually...)
@voretaq7 MAL-WART
@voretaq7 It's not Markdown, it's chat.SE: link
@NathanC Article doesn't state if her partner was also arrested. He should have been charged with illegally entering the cockpit.
@ChrisS It's FINE!
WE'RE NOT CHANGING IT! :P
@ewwhite Oh myyyy
15:04
(I think there's one like that around here actually)
Like any of the normal patrons would ever notice either
@MikeyB Neat site
@NathanC "Virgin Airlines"
@MikeyB Not anymore!
HP... always full of surprises.
# ssh -l Administrator 172.16.1.35
[email protected]'s password:
User:Administrator logged-in to ILO2M23240547.mccartneyproduce.com(172.16.1.35 / FE80::B6B5:2FFF:FEEC:2858)
iLO 4 Advanced 1.40 at  Jan 14 2014
Server Name:
Server Power: On

Based on customer feedback, we will be enhancing the SSH command line
interface in a future release of the iLO 4 firmware.  Our future CLI will
focus on increased usability and improved functionality.  This message is
to provide advance notice of the coming change.  Please see the iLO 4
(building new server from the plane...)
15:11
@ewwhite Wow. I thought customer feedback went to /dev/null
Nice to see HP announcing an enhancement. I guess paywalls fund that sort of consideration
@ewwhite . . . you read the release notes yet? You might not like the enhancement
@ewwhite Any idea how to get some of the plastic ear covers for a MSA60?
@ChrisS I can ask my parts guy. There's a steaming pile of HP MSA60's in the trash in the rear of his warehouse.
@DennisKaarsemaker Have you seen this yet?
@ewwhite yeah, saw it last week
15:16
@ChrisS just a cosmetic thing?
@DennisKaarsemaker And have you made any use of ILO federation?
@ewwhite our iLO's are more into communism I'm afraid.
@ewwhite Yeah
Bob
Bob
this is scary
Bob
Bob
15:20
@voretaq7 ever had that? ^
@Bob in a much smaller plane, but yes
Bob
Bob
apparently strong crosswinds on takeoff
@voretaq7 how risky is it?
well it wasn't pleasant :-)
Bob
Bob
@voretaq7 I'd be more worried if you said it was :P
This is why airports in the US have runways in multiple directions.
15:22
how risky - well when you have an unexpected 10kt jump in the crosswind a few feet off the ground (taking off or landing) it gets your attention :-)
Also, must be a 3rd world country with as "level" as that runway isn't.
@ChrisS Most runways aren't.
@Bob wtf is going on here?
@voretaq7 I haven't seen a runway (that accepts planes that big) that bad in the US.
@cole @Bob Looks like a landing abort actually
15:25
@ChrisS Stand on the end of one some time and look down the runway :)
@Basil yeah it's an aborted landing
source: I play war thunder a lot...
That's terrifying
Bob
Bob
@Basil Well, I did say apparently :P
@voretaq7 I drive past one regularly where I can see down 2 of the runways. They aren't perfect, but they're pretty good.
@ChrisS Most aren't that bad, but plenty are
LGA and JFK are pretty flat because they're on reclaimed land, Newark.... well I guess it doesn't matter if your runway is "flat' when chunks of pavement are missing :P
15:30
As scary as something like that is, just think that you're flying around in a multi-ton metal can with wings through the air faster than any car can go
"Mommy, why do the patches on the wing say Budweiser?"
"Well son, this is an MD-80, it's older than you are and maintenance doesn't want to spend any more on it than they have to."
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@ChrisS Here's a good one - ATL
@NathanC it's a trap
@NathanC it's an audit
Freaking audits...
15:38
+1 for mentioning Cargo Cult System Administration. Any sysadmin who doesn't know that term and what it means should be fired. — Tonny 2 days ago
What is Cargo Cult System Administration?
@DennisKaarsemaker Trap...audit...same thing
@KevinSoviero copy/paste thinking
@DennisKaarsemaker Cargo Cult is short hand for copy/paste thinking? Who came up with that?
Cargo cult programming is a style of computer programming characterized by the ritual inclusion of code or program structures that serve no real purpose. Cargo cult programming is typically symptomatic of a programmer not understanding either a bug they were attempting to solve or the apparent solution (compare shotgun debugging, deep magic). The term cargo cult programmer may apply when an unskilled or novice computer programmer (or one inexperienced with the problem at hand) copies some program code from one place and pastes it into another place, with little or no understanding of how th...
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@KevinSoviero “imitate the superficial exterior of a process or system without having any understanding of the underlying substance” --Wikipedia
So basically, "I have no idea what this does, but i'm gonna copy it anyway because that's how it's always done."
15:44
@NathanC It's fascinating how real Cargo Cults actually arose.
Escargo cults, anyone?
Yeah, I read that...
@MikeyB It explains the concept of assigning less competent people as subordinates... coughnorthkoreacough
@MikeyB Snail cults?
Do any of you have a Dell R300
?
@KevinSoviero The term "cargo cult" comes from anthropolgy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
16:06
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Q: Recover from a Punctured RAID array

user72593here is my situation. I have a Dell Server with a Dell Perc 7i controller, (LSI Controller). I had a drive give me an Failure Predicted warning so I called their support and they came out and replaced the drive and the array rebuilt itself, pretty standard. Two weeks later, I have another driv...

@ewwhite Poor guy.
That reminds me... goes to check on servers
16:25
Just went to buy a helmet and jacket
girl selling the motorcycle gear was
10/10 would buy over priced shit from her again
16:37
Went in the server room to glance at all the drive lights...room was at 79F
My boss is expediting the air conditioning setup...it's there, just not on and somehow people keep forgetting to get the information for it >_>
Bob
Bob
@NathanC Wait, that's hot? o.O
@Bob For a server room, it is. They should be in the 68F-71F range from what I've read, although many places are higher
79ºF = 26ºC
It's not that hot for newer server equipment... But it's approaching the limit of "normal"
Bob
Bob
Wait, misconverted 70.
Yeah, we put a couple fans and left the door open (which I hate doing, but the room outside the data room is A/C anyway) and the temps dropped a bit. Good interm solution until the AC works.
Bob
Bob
16:49
@NathanC I think that is our A/C temperature.
In human-inhabited areas anyway.
Yeah, but you're a crazy Aussie

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