The Comms Room

ewwhite

15:00

@ChrisS meh, HP

I have 12 parts to return to them... They're calling me every day now

Chris S

They say 5 business days - I get everything out my door within 5 business days.... Still get harassed. =/

Though I'll take all the harassement they want in this case. I bought a ProCurve 4104GL modular switch for $100 on eBay a year or two ago. Power supply went bad, took the chassis and one module with it. They overnighted advance replacement everything, free, with free return.

JohnD

@ChrisS What's your opinion on the whole pay wall for firmware now?

HopelessN00b

15:15

@JohnD Fuck HP with a pointy stick that's running old, buggy firmware.

Chris S

@JohnD I'm only slightly annoyed at this point... Haven't run into it yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. That's assuming it stays, which I think HP is reconsidering right now. I'm sure they didn't expect as much sh*t-storm as they've created.

ewwhite

I have't run into the paywall yet either. I'll always have access, but it was just a terrible misreading of demand.

I don't even welcome many of the changes with the Gen8 servers.

Chris S

GREEN RACING STRIPE! Much RAM. So CPU. Wow!

cole

O_O

cole

15:36

Quiet in here today

Michael Hampton

Great, out of band patches for all my Linux boxes today.

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton GNU_TLS?

cole

@MichaelHampton how many would that be

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b Yep, that's the one.

cole

Windows...if you could stop shutting down...that..that would be nice

Fucking Windows Updates.

Michael Hampton

15:40

@cole Too many. Over two dozen that aren't puppetized...

cole

D:

Just do what we do

Don't do updates, ever.

Michael Hampton

I was actually thinking of automatically installing security updates.

cole

Security guy showed me the results of our pentest in December. The vulnerability report is 3000+ pages long.

ewwhite

I'd love an answer to this:

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Q: vSphere - copy virtual machine to external usb hard drive

We have an ESXi server standing somewhere else. I can connect to the server with the vSphere client. There is an external USB hard drive plugged into the server. How can I copy a stopped VM to the external hard drive?

Basil

@cole Most of the [edit: filthy] casuals are going wild for spring break in florida

Tanner

15:46

@cole jesus

why bother pentesting?

TheCleaner

@ewwhite add the external drive to the admin's laptop instead and browse datastore and then download the vmdk to the external drive...yes?

cole

@Tanner for the lulz.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Kinda unanswerable without knowing more.

Tanner

I'll gladly take a few thousand dollars and hand them a single sheet of paper that says "You're fucked."

ewwhite

@TheCleaner Let's assume the ESXi host is an a Co-location facility or remote datacenter.

cole

15:47

@Tanner what do you think they pay me $85K/year for?

Tanner

ahahah

cole

Me "Well this is fucked up" Them "We know" Me "oh ok thanks"

TheCleaner

@ewwhite OK, so it's slower...but still doable. Or set it up as an external usb drive on the vcenter VM and send it down that way.

ewwhite

@TheCleaner point is: VMware has made this a bitch to do.

TheCleaner

@ewwhite I'm "asking" if what I'm saying is a possibility. I don't know...never done it to an external usb drive. Always just direct.

ewwhite

15:50

@TheCleaner oh, yes... but USB passthrough is very slow.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Yeah, they sure have. Moving/copying/editing files in general is obscenely difficult with vSphere/vCenter, and for no good reason I can come up with.

cole

HEATWAVE

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b to keep backup software vendors happy?

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Why would that keep them happy? I personally think it would be nice be able to do VM back ups to a big external USB drive. (Fuck tape and all that.)

ewwhite

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A: vSphere - copy virtual machine to external usb hard drive

As ewwhite says in his comment, this is harder than it should be and is nigh-on impossible without doing a lot of advanced configuration. This is mainly due to the fact that the underlying operating system behind vSphere (I believe it's loosely based on Red Hat Linux, but don't hold me to that!)...

Nathan C

16:00

Oh windows....I had to force-reboot my machine. Lost the keyboard and it refused to detect new devices

then it hung on "shutting down"

TheCleaner

16:12

@ewwhite one solution idea would be to make the external drive show up as network storage. Either as a share on a Windows host, or using something like: addonics.com/products/nas40esu.php

ewwhite

mmhmm..

Or buy a Western Digital My Cloud

cole

Sigh

Makes me sad telling a recruiter "No...not interested in a job at MIT"

Chopper3

@cole I've spoken there a few times

cole

Been getting a lot of people messaging me on LinkedIn for jobs

Since I don't have my resume out there.

HopelessN00b

@cole O? Why not?

cole

16:26

@HopelessN00b I left in Oct, came back at the end of Dec.

Can't leave again, yet

Although, after the verbal altercation with a coworker last week - I'd love to

HopelessN00b

@cole Oh, that sucks. I think I'd be happy to work at MIT. I would even be willing to work at OSU, but their pay is just too low.... Seems like MIT would be able and willing to pay a reasonable salary for good IT folks.

cole

@HopelessN00b I'd love to, actually.

It's Lexington Labs, too ll.mit.edu

Although, probably would need a Sec. Clearance

not sure how much a PITA that would be with changing sex/name/etc

HopelessN00b

@cole Ugh. I'd be out. No desire to deal with government bullshit, let alone applying for a security clearance.

cole

Yeah that'd be a bit of PITA

But I can guarantee that that job pays $100k+

We'll see if I get a raise this year

HopelessN00b

@cole You could probably get more at a bank/financial services company, and with less B.S. Case in point....

cole

16:33

@HopelessN00b That's what I left for - mutual insurance and ohmygodpleasegodno

and I was making a buttload more, but it sucked so bad

SysAdmins couldn't even be local admins on their own machines

HopelessN00b

This job's offering 125-150k. (J.P.Morgan-Chase.)

cole

I was making $57/hr

and I left - because it was that bad.

HopelessN00b

That's pretty bad, yeah.

cole

I've learned - money ain't errythang

My short commute to work = +++

Also the fact that it's Wednesday, I put in a vaca day for this Friday and it got approved? Yes.

To be honest, it's really one rotten apple in the group that really makes it unbearable most days.

HopelessN00b

Yeah, I'm passing on the bank job openings for that reason... the suck is pretty high. Seeing some appealing ones for tech companies that I wanna pounce all over... but waiting on a new passport. Damn Canada. Governments in general, I guess. But Canada's, in this specific case.

cole

16:37

I was just talking to a coworker (in my group) about it - he said everyone has a problem with him. So it's not me, which is good.

Canada....?

HopelessN00b

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A: Is it actually possible to dispose of a body with hydrofluoric acid?

Hydrofluoric acid is toxic and corrosive, but actually isn't that strong of an acid compared to other hydrohalic acids; the fluorine is too electronegative to readily donate its proton. Hydrochloric acid is much stronger, and as it has several uses from pH-balancing pool water to preparing concre...

cole

@HopelessN00b literal LOL over here

HopelessN00b

(Just sayin'. And theres a few more answers like that on the site, too.)

cole

and said rotten apple was like

"You alright over there?"

HopelessN00b

@cole Yeah, I'm property of the Canadian government, for the near-future. (That's what citizens are, right? Government property?)

cole

16:40

@HopelessN00b por que?

Thought you were in Ohio?

or something

HopelessN00b

@cole Had the misfortune of being born them, mostly. As did my parents.

@cole I am. For the last >15 years... still doesn't make me an American citizen, though. So I need a new Canadian passport with an expiration date further in the future than next year before it's worthwhile to get a work visa to change jobs. (Work visa can't be valid longer than the passport is.)

born there. Had the misfortune of being born there, mostly.

Chopper3

@HopelessN00b yes but it's easier to just chop off the limbs with a hacksaw and feed the bits to pigs, they'll eat bone you see

HopelessN00b

@Chopper3 For that matter, living on the eastern seaboard, I think I'd prefer to do it a-la Dexter. Turn your enemies into fishfood, and support the revitalization of our Atlantic fisheries.

cole

@HopelessN00b Doh.

Chopper3

@HopelessN00b the bodies float however, if you're doing that then just use a garden shredder and use it as chum

HopelessN00b

16:47

@Chopper3 Academic for me... I live in Ohio. It's Cole who lives near the Atlantic and has a body he should dispose of.

Chopper3

@HopelessN00b in that case either pigs or dismember then drop into storm drains

HopelessN00b

@Chopper3 I'm thinking incinerator, actually. Much less messy. Add corpse, turn on. Return in a few hours to turn bones and allow for complete incineration.

Chopper3

@HopelessN00b pay the body-man as a crematorium is another option

Chris S

Largest National Forest <2 hours drive away... Dump in middle of nowhere, let animal do the rest.

HopelessN00b

@Chopper3 I'm thinking I wouldn't mind having my own, actually. The ability to make a really hot fire has to be pretty handy... I could make my own metal products, or ceramics, or glass (etc.) when it's not busy burning a body. Probably not enough to make it a profitable endeavor... but I do enjoy my tools and such, and geeking out on metalwork sounds like a decent enough time to me.

Chris S

16:55

You can make a pretty cheap forge from an old propane tank, top chopped off for a lid, 2-3" of cement lining for insulation. It'll get hot enough for Aluminum, but not many other metals.

HopelessN00b

Yeah, I'd need something bigger... probably a custom build job. I've had bad luck going around asking for existing products large enough to hold a body.

Jacob

and now I need $1,500... Google just sent me an email to buy Glass :(

HopelessN00b

Congrats... I guess. Can't say I'd want Google Glass, but it's definitely going to drive the development of wearable computing products I might actually want.

Jacob

@HopelessN00b I have the email; not the money :(

Michael Hampton

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Q: Boot loader choice for pxe environment

I´m setting up a pxe/tftp server. I´m for now setting it up with pxelinux, from syslinux system. I saw this table wich make me doubt about if i made the right choice. I need to know wich of those bootloader is most widely used and can cover all (or the most) of next requeriments: Boot diagnosi...

pxeboot boot-loader

Opinions? Facts?

HopelessN00b

17:09

@Jacob Expense report!

Jacob

@HopelessN00b HA!

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton Crap shopping question asking for something that probably doesn't exist?

Tanner

17:21

@HopelessN00b you wouldn't want to at least play with Google Glass?

HopelessN00b

Fucking Windows. Why does my 2012 Domain insist on pre-Windows 2000 usernames? If a pre-Windows 2000 somehow finds its way anywhere near this domain, I'm going to shoot it and set it on fire. >:/

Michael Hampton

0

Q: Do separate servers in the same datacenter have the same public IP?

Similarly to if me and my brother are in the same house using different computers, how we both share a public IP? I'm not talking about ginourmous cloud systems like Google's or Amazon's or massive distributed data behemoths, just an old fashioned datacenter where a bunch of servers are. For exa...

ip datacenter

HopelessN00b

@Tanner Nope. Too limited to be something I'd find useful or fun.

ewwhite

On another interview...

getting Linux questions.

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton Close.

voretaq7

17:25

Holy harbls....that Ubuntu release upgrade was actually NOT as painful as having your balls caught in a rusty bear trap chained to the back of a pickup truck driving through a thorny briar....

either they got better at not sucking or I've gotten so used to the suck I'm numb to the pain

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b @cole would know about those pre-2000 machines ;)

Tanner

@voretaq7 wolf trap instead?

MDMarra

sup weirdos?

@ewwhite Close them as "Too Broad"

Chopper3

some dicksplash has had a go at answering that ffs

ewwhite

@MDMarra haha

84104

17:31

@MichaelHampton I read the close too quickly at first. It looked like "Put on hold as Hopelessly off-topic" to me.

Tanner

@MDMarra Questions must be relevant to professional system administration.

voretaq7

@Tanner mousetrap

ewwhite

I am totally terrible... While on this interview call, I was looking up the names of the Linux team members. And here's one that made me spit-up my water.

that's unfortunate

Basil

Man, every time I think I love unix about as much as is possible, I learn some new trick. Today it's tail -f mountedfile | grep somethingicareabout

ewwhite

That's a horrible name.

HopelessN00b

17:43

@Basil Network search complete. 0 results returned for somethingicareabout

Basil

@HopelessN00b haha, maybe I should have named that pseudovariable "somethingimwatchinglikeahawk"

ewwhite

Sysadmin sanity-check: If a user comes to you and says "I got an email bounce back message. I send email to these addresses all the time, why won’t it go through now?" - What do you do?

voretaq7

@ewwhite Tell them to (a) READ the fucking bounce message, and (b) BRING the bounce message if they want my help because I'm not a goddamn Borg and I don't have a collective hive mind with the mail infrastructure.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Hit them with something hard and tell them I'm not the god-damn mail admin.

...maybe what voretaq suggests, if I really like the user.

ewwhite

@voretaq7 So I did... and the response...

Well the email from outlook says contact my help desk, and guess what? you are my help desk so any help you can give me in figuring it out would be helpful - bitch

voretaq7

17:52

@ewwhite was to bring you the bounce message? Otherwise you just repeat the same instructions.

@ewwhite "I can't help you if you don't follow my instructions, whore"

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Time to get the gun from your trunk.

voretaq7

(we'll just keep escalating from bitch to whore to trollop to.... idunno what comes next I usually fire the customer at that point)

ewwhite

[email protected] ([email protected])
A problem occurred during the delivery of this message to this e-mail address. Try sending this message again. If the problem continues, please contact your helpdesk.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite "Bummer. Hope you can figure it out on your own, because I don't help people who call me 'bitch,' cunt."

Tanner

@ewwhite That's not a bounce...

pauska

17:54

@ewwhite he/she called you a bitch? for real?

ewwhite

@pauska :) Produce industry

pauska

@ewwhite cut the client off..

ewwhite

So I'm checking the Exchange server....

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Why? Kill the user. It's simpler, and far more justified.

ewwhite

Generating server: GARLIC.producecompany.local

[email protected]
mx1408.ess.rzc.cudaops.com #550 permanent failure for one or more recipients ([email protected]:blocked,[email protected]:blocked) ##

voretaq7

17:56

@ewwhite NO.

If it's an exchange error just quit now

fucking worthless piece of shit excuse for a mail server

Basil

Do you ever miss finance @ewwhite?

ewwhite

@Basil I just was on a finance interview 10 minutes ago

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite There you go. "[email protected] blocked your email. Maybe you called him a bitch and pissed him off."

ewwhite

in the years since I last interviewed with the firm, they went from all RHEL to all-Ubuntu across 1,000 servers.

HopelessN00b

That's pretty appalling, too.

ewwhite

17:59

@HopelessN00b I don't think I've ever seen this "blocked" message

Tanner

spam filter?

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite What version of Exchange?

ewwhite

2010

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Means what it says. Recipient blocked delivery... contact recipient and inquire as to why, or go with my explanation from above.

Maybe check the blacklists, in case it's a deeper issue than this guy asking for help by calling people "bitch."

ewwhite

I know... I should earn my keep

HopelessN00b

18:05

@ewwhite If you say so. Someone comes asking for help and calls me "bitch," I feel like I've earned my keep if I keep myself from stomping them into a red stain on the carpet.

ewwhite

Mods. Want to fix this?

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Q: How much data does Linux read on average boot?

I wonder how much data in total does a freshly installed vanilla Linux system like 32-bit CentOS 5.10 read in order to get to a virtual console shell prompt? You know, reading all the configuration files, loading binaries, kernel image, etc. I am looking for order-of-magnitude estimates, I am aw...

linux boot benchmarks

84104

@ewwhite It's just off topic. I'm not sure U&L would want it either.

ewwhite

@84104 he's asking the wrong question.

@ewwhite I am booting 100s of Linux machines, and 95% of their system contents are identical and will remain identical - the machines are clones. I would like to offload the identical/read-only shared part of the filesystem, to an NFS storage, mount it from there, and boot like that. Only writeable part of the filesystem, like /var, /tmp and /home, will remain local to each machine. Since potentially hundred machines may boot simultaneously as part of a "cluster", I need to estimate whether the accessed NFS storage link will be a bottleneck while booting from. — amn 13 mins ago

it should be... "here's what I'm doing... what should I be aware of?"

or are there any concerns with my implementation....

84104

Oh, stuff that should actually be in the question is in comments.

HopelessN00b

Seems beyond saving to me, either way.... maybe I'm just in a lazy mood today, though.

Tanner

18:14

So... I have to go troubleshoot a dial-up hyperterminal issue...

3

how iz dial-up form?

I'm too young for this...

3

Any tips besides "check for dial-tone"?

cole

@NathanC sadly, I would

MDMarra

@Tanner yuck

cole

lolhyperterm

Tanner

Yeah, I'm entirely lost. I have no idea where to begin. Are there some TCP/IP packets I can look at? :(

Ry Jones

@Tanner disable call waiting

JohnD

18:17

@ewwhite I hope these are VMs and he's not thinking that he can boot from bare metal using NFS.

Tanner

@RyJones hah, good idea

Ry Jones

what exactly are you trying to debug?

Tanner

@RyJones problems connecting to the server, problems logging in, input not showing up

ewwhite

@JohnD probably true.

Tanner

medicare/medicade or whatever says it's on our end

ewwhite

18:21

So a friend is in Dubai and checking out the police cars...

JohnD

"And if I wanted to profile it, I wouldn't be asking the question here :-)" "I don't want to do this work, that's what you guys are here for :-)"

Ry Jones

heh, a sharps container is $10 from amazon with free shipping (prime), or $3.95 with $7.95 shipping on amazon (no prime)

cole

lol

as in a needle container?

Cause I need one of those

Ry Jones

amazon has an amazing variety of them

cole

I have probably 150+ needles right now that I need to get rid of.

pauska

18:25

@ewwhite they have a One-77....

Ry Jones

I found I got way more than 120 needles into a 120 needle container, but I'm using .3 mL needles, not 1.0 mL

cole

Yeah I use 1mL

with 18g to draw, 25g to inject.

Ry Jones

I got about 365*2 (two a day)

cole

I do 1/2 mL week

Ry Jones

what gauge and length?

cole

18:27

25g 1" to inject

I do IM - not subq

ewwhite

@pauska I'm looking for it in the photo set...

poop...

Ry Jones

ah, mine are shorter, too bad. I have two boxes of short, 1 mL needles I mis-bought

ewwhite

but no, Bentley?

Ry Jones

I can only use so many to lube guns and knives

Michael Hampton

Hi, it´s on hold still, but i fully rewrited. It´s ok now? — Abraham Borbujo 31 mins ago

Someone save me...

Ry Jones

18:31

and I'm shooting SQ on a cat, so thinner skin even

cole

@RyJones ah, yeah

I could go SubQ apparently.

Going to ask my endocrinologist if I can switch to Subq because my thighs are building up a lot of scar tissue

Ry Jones

I was shooting Enbrel, so SQ is the option.

I gotta say, whoever invented those spring-loaded plungers is a right prick

cole

LOL

Never seen those

Ry Jones

pi.amgen.com/united_states/enbrel/derm/enbrel_piu.pdf has a picture

cole

The testosterone is suspended in sesame seed oil

So it's really thick, so I need to make sure to warm it up a bit before injecting - otherwise it hurts like a bitch

Ry Jones

18:40

yeah, enbrel is super thin, like water.

cole

I wish the T was

but hey, my other option would be to get my butt cheek cut open every 3 months and have time release pellets put in

Ry Jones

too bad there's no oral version

cole

Yeah - estrogen there is

I think it has to do with the fact that testosterone can really fuck up the liver.

Which is what my PCP thinks the fat on my liver may be from - just testosterone in general so

I hate Apache Tomcat - it makes me want to punch myself in the dick.

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Ry Jones

so, we asked for a list of VMs so we could prioritize the migration to the new boxes. The guy sent a PNG of the management interface. Thanks!

cole

LOL

That's helpful

Ry Jones

18:48

total asshole move. he complied with the request and yet was completely unhelpful.

cole

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Chris S

Generating a Bitcoin vanity address... I'm up to 74% probability and it's still churning.

cole

welp - looks like I've finally become a "part of the group" here at work - in general.

Got invited to lunch by two guys on a different team last week, coworker invited me out for beers with him and my boss next time they go, got invited out to go out for beers tonight with the security and desktop guy - and went out to lunch with the network engineer today.

I finally "fit in" - I guess.

Ry Jones

@cole tell them to stop oppressing you with alcohol

cole

haha

I had awesome thai food for lunch today

Ry Jones

18:55

betaboston.com/news/2014/03/05/… leads with population density graph to show adoption

voretaq7

@RyJones COME AND SEE THE DRUNKENNESS INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM(S GROUP)!

cole

Never good when your manager iMs you and says

"When you get a minute, I want to ask you for a favor"

voretaq7

@cole "That will cost you 5 dollars, Charlie Brown"

@cole Alternate response: "I will do as you ask, but some day I may call upon you to do a service for me...."

(but you might not be Italian enough to pull the second one off. Everyone can get away with the Lucy quote :-)

cole

19:18

lol

TheCleaner

@cole always good when it is digital communication...never good when it is verbal and no one else is around.

freiheit

►

Nathan C

19:34

@TheCleaner giggity

TheCleaner

Crystal Reports...y so sad.

Ry Jones

19:50

@TheCleaner a lot of people made shocking amounts of money with Crystal Reports

TheCleaner

@RyJones and FoxPro

Ry Jones

@TheCleaner I think at one point Microsoft shipped a half-dozen database solutions

TheCleaner

@RyJones no idea why it didn't catch on. Like BeOS, it was destined for greatness.

cole

20:17

@TheCleaner lol

@voretaq7 I am not Italian at all........although a lot of people think I am.

Ry Jones

this guy needs mental health help: blog.seattlepi.com/football/2014/03/04/…

cole

Why is this server named anlchem

TheCleaner

@RyJones Everyone knows God is a Cowboys fan.

David

@cole It's general purpose, designed to deal with "any chemicals"

voretaq7

20:33

@cole Would you prefer analchem for analytical chemistry?

Like my university's unfortunately-abbreviated Comparative Literature track (departments get 4 letter codes, so....yeah)

Matthew Ife

Least its not an acronym. Acronyms get very meta quickly.

Till its just a jumble of letters and numbers.

TheCleaner

TechEd content catalog is live: tena2014.eventpoint.com/topic/list

ewwhite

@voretaq7 I like that!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

when our business analysts requested their first server, its original name was analapp-01

voretaq7

20:53

@ewwhite you like Analytical Chemistry, or Comparative Literature?

being specific is important Ed...

ewwhite

@voretaq7 both?

I remember having a chuckle every morning in my cLit 210 class Junior year

voretaq7

@ewwhite at least your school intercapped it. Hofstra's system (being older than the dinosaur fossils in the Geology department) put department codes in all caps. Pages and pages of CLIT 001 CLIT 002 CLIT003....

ewwhite

hehe

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 You had classes about the Coalition for Liberation of Itinerant Tree-dwellers?

cole

@voretaq7 there an account called AnalChem

Also, finally had time to ask my boss for his favor. He's like "oh i have a 4PM call...so tomorrow" I'm like "should I brace myself?" Him "No...well maybe...well I don't know."

Matthew Ife

21:05

@cole as long as he didn't say "and bring the lube", its all good.

cole

Then he said ".........well it's not bad for you"

Did @Tanner ever fix his HyperDerpinal issue?

voretaq7

Quick, upvote me before I get beaten down!

0

Q: Hide (or use) "More stack Exchange Communities" when editing your site-switcher list

Minor UI grumble: When you're editing your site switcher list the "More Stack Exchange communities" seems like unnecessary UI clutter. Yes, I know one of them has a big "ADD" button next to it. Didn't stop me from using the wrong one. I may be a blind idiot, but years of experience have taught...

feature-request top-bar

freiheit

@voretaq7 And furthermore, why do I have to click "Save"? What is this, 2003?

voretaq7

@freiheit I'll give them the "Save" button as an implementation concession, otherwise it's a lot of server round-trips adding/removing/reordering options, and an indeterminate state (did my changes AJAX their way up to the server or not?) — voretaq7 24 secs ago

I did have the same initial thought though :)

freiheit

21:28

@voretaq7 I only buy the first half of that argument. They're buttons; they can save things and not display the change until the round trip is done, just like buttons all did in 1997.

voretaq7

@freiheit reordering isn't buttons - it's drag and drop

cole

and time for beer

later

Ry Jones

instagram.com/p/lLLWfAzDGf I made it through 1/3 a bottle at lunch, now I need stuff to pour it on before it goes bad

freiheit

21:44

@RyJones I was hoping for whisky

Scott Pack

Or something drinkable.

freiheit

@ScottPack Well, @RyJones is a sysadmin, so I assumed anything drinkable and weaker than whisky he'd finish the whole bottle.

Scott Pack

I'd give allowances for a barley wine or mead.

Particularly for lunch.

Ry Jones

@ScottPack I should bottle my mead

I have 4 32oz growlers from Rachel's Ginger Beer I can recycle

freiheit

Yeah, mead's too sweet to drink a whole 750mL bottle without going into some kind of diabetic shock. ;)

Ry Jones

21:49

rachelsgingerbeer.com

Scott Pack

Mead gets me drunker faster as well.

I feel much fuzzier after a glass of mead than a glass of wine.

Ry Jones

@ScottPack really? even given the lower abv?

freiheit

@RyJones Based on that website, I assume you have to be part hipster to drink it... ;)

Ry Jones

@freiheit my AA buys it, I see it on her desk, so I bought 4 bottles (1 each per flavor) and I have found... I am not that fond of it.

however, I think riding a fixie in tight pants with an ironic beard is worth 15% off

freiheit

@RyJones Took me a minute to parse "AA" in a manner compatible with you drinking mead...

Ry Jones

21:56

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for everyone else

freiheit

@RyJones I only ride geared bikes in my tight pants and my beard is 100% not at all ironic. So only 5% off, then?

Ry Jones

Police found injection needles and what appeared to be marijuana in the truck driver's pockets. <-- as opposed to non-injection needles? also, needles and pot?

@freiheit gear bikes are verboten

freiheit

@RyJones non-injection == sewing, etc...

Ry Jones

but why would they mention that if he was high? "subject was high, had weed and paraphernalia"

just seems strange to me, is all.

I barely got out of high school, though, so maybe it's an expression of college smartening on the writer's part

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