The Comms Room

ewwhite

00:00

@MichaelHampton allows unrestricted and unaudited access to my vital production systems over the internetz.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Oh, well, it seems to be failing at that. The connection is timing out...

ewwhite

oh, https ;)

they should add a redirect, shouldn't they?

freiheit

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite So, your auth.log is going to be filled with a lot of rubbish now

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson doesn't show up

Michael Hampton

00:05

I think someone turned off logging after the log got filled up with various jokes and taunts.

ewwhite

Naw.

Wesley

@freiheit Slashing across a gap in traffic in the middle of a five lane road > intersections. (At least I can call the former "interval training" kinda)

=P

freiheit

@Wesley Deliberately merging into gaps one lane at a time (and, sorta, across each lane) > slashing across gaps

Wesley

@freiheit But they cars. They honk at me. =(

freiheit

@Wesley Also, if your heart is beating hard enough that you feel like you're going to die, it's totally interval training. Go do it again.

@Wesley Ah, so they've seen you!

Wesley

00:09

@freiheit ...okie

@freiheit Totally going to end the Feb Strava bike challenge with a whole 220km

#winning

Who the hell is this guy and why is he riding 4,000+km in a month: strava.com/athletes/1302619

Michael Hampton

What the ever loving fuck. Australia.

freiheit

@Wesley I've been slacking, and I'm only at 330km this month...

@Wesley Probably training for his next quad metric century...

Wesley

@freiheit wat. Is that his job?

Michael Hampton

He's probably retired.

freiheit

@Wesley blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/06/12/cycling-across-canada-for-als

Wesley

00:16

@freiheit Oohhhhhh

Michael Hampton

Guys, if you see spam, don't just throw a delete vote on it, also flag it as spam. The system does use this information to keep future spammers out.

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freiheit

@Wesley It's amazing what you can find with the googles

Wesley

@freiheit Witchcraft

freiheit

@Wesley opusthepoet.wordpress.com

Wesley

I really would like to bike the west coast.

San Diego to Seattle!

But, you know, I'd need a better bike.

freiheit

00:20

tourdivide.org

@Wesley A Surly Long Haul Trucker is a nearly ideal bike for that, and pretty affordable...

Wesley

@freiheit I'm going to try and get over to REI tomorrow and let Tom the Bike Mechanic yell at me.

freiheit

@Wesley Does yelling including finding out if you ruined your frame?

Wesley

From the reputation I've gathered, Tom is quite the bike mechanic with no small name.

freiheit

bgcycles.com/rocknroad.html

Wesley

@freiheit Nah, I didn't touch it. Well, I cuddled with it, but did do any machining on it.

@freiheit Wow that's pretty.

@freiheit Tom was telling me about some stuff I want to spray in my tubes and hang the bike upside down and then do it again and hang it a different way.

I just said "okay... okay... okay... okay... can I bring it in?"

freiheit

00:24

@Wesley framesaver or linseed oil, yeah...

Wesley

Ry Jones

@Wesley how was the battle royale with cheese?

Wesley

@RyJones I emailed him my icy termination of service complete with final requirements for contact, all back invoices, password database, links to all the documentation I wrote.

I see I have an email from him, responded about two hours after I sent it, but I've been happily not caring enough to read it.

There's not much that he could say that would garner a response. Other than "pull my stuff out and ship it to me" or "I will sue you for one meeelion dollars"

Ry Jones

@Wesley good for you

Mark Henderson

@Wesley No chance. It will likely be grovelling

Wesley

00:30

The former would require a trip to the datacenter and then fedex, the latter would require the local constabulary.

@MarkHenderson I made a bet with a friend that I know what he's going to say. Just a sec...

Mark Henderson

First rule you learn of having kids is spotting crocodile tears

Don't fall for it

ewwhite

@Wesley um, you should look

you should also know how to capitalize on a client in this situation

Wesley

@ewwhite Y 4?

@ewwhite I guarantee you if you had this guy, you wouldn't be able to capitalize the first letter of your sentences.

So, here's what I'm betting: use of the word "disappointed" at least twice. General tone will be cool, with an air of pride. He will not attempt to woo me back at all. There may be at least one line that could be considered shots fired, meaning he might suggest he will take action if his website or archives are degraded at all. I bet he'll say something about this being unprofessional that it happened in email and I could have at least given him the courtesy of a conversation. I bet he will say "I wish we could have talked this out."

Ry Jones

@Wesley well, spill bro, let's see it

Wesley

@ewwhite But the biggest problem is me. I didn't draw enough lines and stick to it, so there's no respect in him for me.

sigh I'm going to ruin dinner, I know it.

Holy shit I see five emails now.

WTF dude

Ry Jones

00:34

@Wesley yeah, let him cool off overnight

Wesley

I was not expecting five emails from him

Ry Jones

he's probably asking elmer's or tapioca

Wesley

@RyJones Blargh.

Ry Jones

you there @Wesley? you there?

Wesley

Well now I really don't know if I want to simmer on this through dinner.

I didn't expect five emails.

Ry Jones

00:35

this is how I steel myself for this shit. Nothing in this email can actually kill me, so let's read it

then when I'm done, I go yup, still alive, nobody has death ray over email perfected

shit, maybe this time they got the death ray working. rest in peace, broheim

Wesley

@RyJones Well, the way my email sorts, I see the latest first and I'm kinda smirking. He's taken it well I think... but this seems kinda dickish.

Mark Henderson

@RyJones Damn straight. That's how I work too

Wesley

Okay, so I don't want to paste full email in, but he's actually telling me how to respond to his clients that may still contact me. "Don't say that you're no longer with redacted, say that 'my consulting agreement with redacted is completed'

Mark Henderson

I learned that when I forced myself to go to school when I knew I hadn't done any homework or hadn't even started an assignment. What's the teacher going to do? Maim me for life? Just get it done and in a week it will be forgotten.

Wesley

What the fuck kinda balls is that?

I'll tell them whatever the fuck I want.

Mark Henderson

00:39

@Wesley But don't

If he can play it cool, you can play it cool

Wesley

Didn't see that.

ewwhite

so I have an interview.

Ry Jones

so just ignore him from here on out?

ewwhite

@JoelESalas wanna help me practice?

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I won't say "$company is staffed by cheapskate fuckstains and I didn't get paid" but I'll say "I am no longer with $company. I'm not going to say "'my consulting agreement with redacted is completed"

I DIDN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT

Mark Henderson

00:40

Fair enough

Wesley

There was to dudes that didn't know how to do business doing stuff hoping the one would give the other what they wanted.

@RyJones I'm going to read down the emails and see, but it sounds like he's at least not threatening to shank me.

Ry Jones

@Wesley so you couldn't figure out who was the bottom and nobody was happy

it happens

Mark Henderson

I guess stating it the way he wants it means that they won't ask any questions; they will know why you're not with him any more. If you just say "I'm no longer with" then they might ask "why" and then he can't control what you say

Ry Jones

maybe you're more of a power bottom

I would ignore anything he's trying to make you say.

honestly, I don't discuss previous clients unless I'm making fun of them

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Yeah, he's manipulating the situation and making himself sound more pro. He's not. There was no agreement. There was no MFing agreement. He didn't pay me the fucking money he agreed to. That's the agreement that no longer exists.

@MarkHenderson So I will simply say "I am no longer working with $company" because that's the plain truth.

Ry Jones

00:42

@Wesley so file the emails away and ignore him

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Ok that sounds fair

Just don't badmouth him too easily

Wesley

@RyJones Yeah, I'm actually not as angry in real life as I sound. I'm just amazed that he can drive with balls that big.

Ry Jones

when the fuck is some podunk shitbag outfit in the pacific ocean going to have clients in phoenix?

Wesley

@MarkHenderson No, I'm happy to never talk about him again. Except in IM. =)

Ry Jones

also, would you compare his balls to grapefruit in size?

Mark Henderson

00:43

@RyJones You mean softball

Wesley

@RyJones I've only read the last of five emails so, we could be dealing with weather balloons by the end of the day

Ry Jones

@MarkHenderson grapefruit is universaler

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Not target practice, right?

ewwhite

@JoelESalas Square people again

@JoelESalas I don't fully understand the SRE role... Site Reliability Engineer

Anonymous

one of the benefits of being the only one who can log into his home router, is to allocate a third of the available bandwidth to me

Wesley

01:00

@PatoSáinz Only a third?

Anonymous

@Wesley oh i just failed at fractions

Anonymous

i meant three quarters

Anonymous

:)

Wesley

@PatoSáinz A six figure career in devops awaits you.

Ry Jones

@ewwhite be on site, be reliable, be an engineer

Anonymous

01:01

@Wesley lol that was rude

ewwhite

@RyJones Is it something people aspire to?

Ry Jones

@ewwhite I don't. I wrangle VMs and work on releases, tagging and untagging, branching and merging

ewwhite

hmm, well, I'm reading the LinkedIn profile of the guy who's interviewing me Monday. And it's a turn-of.

but maybe it's a bay area thing... seems like a lot of engineers jump job to job there

Ry Jones

@ewwhite two years at a job in the bay area means you're an old man

ewwhite

interesting

Joel E Salas

01:09

@ewwhite SRE is a mixture of software engineer and ops guy

@ewwhite Link?

@PatoSáinz Don't worry about @Wesley, he doesn't know anything about six-figure careers in devops

Ry Jones

@JoelESalas damn dog

Journeyman Geek

woof?

Ry Jones

now to see if this OEM in shenzen replies

Wesley

@JoelESalas The devop who made the payroll app used unsigned short so everyone's pay ceiling is $65,535 =(

Joel E Salas

@Wesley rofl hahahaha

Ry Jones

01:13

he did a Superman 3 attack and put the overflow in his account

Joel E Salas

sudo perl superman3.pl --account=12345678

Scott Pack

Does @Wesley know anything about *4*digit careers?

@ewwhite What's your rule of thumb time frame to bout be a job jumper?

Wesley

@ScottPack I broke into five digits all three years of operation!

(Don't ask net or gross)

Ry Jones

@Wesley left of the decimal point?

Wesley

@RyJones Somehow I did manage to grow revenue each year, so that's nice, and yes left of the decimal point. =P

Scott Pack

01:24

Congrats!

Wesley

Literally tens of dollars more this year than last!

Scott Pack

What color ink did you use?

Wesley

@ScottPack Log into PayPal, right click, inspect element, edit html, profit!

Ry Jones

this OEM sucks.

ewwhite

@JoelESalas I'll link you... LinkedIn Profile and his slideshow on SRE - slideshare.net/GrierJohnson/sre-from-scratch

Ry Jones

01:26

I ask questions... no reply. IS MY CASH NOT GREEN?

Wesley

@RyJones Dell? =P

Ry Jones

@Wesley Shenzhen Ogemray Technology Co., Ltd

ewwhite

@ScottPack < 2-year stints.

Scott Pack

I would consider that short

ewwhite

I have a lot of those

Ry Jones

01:28

@ewwhite this guy gets fired a lot

ewwhite

@RyJones you think? Looks like jumpin

Ry Jones

@ewwhite He bailed on OpenTV, got fired, came back

Wesley

@RyJones Wow, that's some crazy time frames. Not even a conslutant.

Ry Jones

He left an Architect role after 7 months to be Senior Staff, then a Production Engineer

ewwhite

Oh, I thought I was bad

Ry Jones

01:29

so he snapped some time in 2009 and he's on a long, slow glide

maybe there is some other explanation, but I'd need to hear it

ewwhite

@RyJones so it actually looks bad?

Ry Jones

Yeah, I don't buy the 4 month contract with google.

Wesley

@RyJones It's one thing when I see a lot of 2, 3, 6, and 12 month engagements. Then you know someone is a hired gun, for like Robert Half, or whatever.

Ry Jones

I know plenty of people there that contract and it's always one year increments

I mean, it's possible they had 4 months of money to burn, but why ditch a FTE gig for 4 months cash to come back as FTE?

ewwhite

ah

reading between the lines

Ry Jones

01:32

it just doesn't add up

It could well be he is being honest. Maybe he got tired of management and worked his way down to IC. I don't know, it just doesn't read right

are you hiring him or is he hiring you?

ewwhite

@RyJones he's interviewing me..

but I'm turned-off, because I don't think I could stomach that type of job

even though @JoelESalas says I should see what they have to say

Ry Jones

it will probably pay well

yes, interviewing is a skill, practice it

ewwhite

@RyJones Oh, I interview often.

Wesley

@ewwhite Why are you looking for a job when you already have a shit ton of clients, money, and I assume a ton of your time taken up? Do you really have enough leeway to do a 40 hours job on top of what you already have? Dude, I'm totally doing life wrong.

ewwhite

@Wesley they approached me.

Scott Pack

01:36

I like how we're talking about semen again.

Wesley

@ewwhite Right, but that still doesn't make time magically appear in your day. =P

ewwhite

@Wesley I have plenty of free time

Wesley

@ScottPack Did you know that when a male honeybee ejaculates, his testicles explode and he dies?

@ewwhite Life being done wrong: confirmed. =(

ewwhite

I mean, I did give a presentation on VMware today.

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Don't be fooled

@ewwhite went on a holiday to hawaii and spent the whole time on his computer

ewwhite

01:40

@MarkHenderson by choice

Mark Henderson

He doesn't have as much spare time as he thinks

ewwhite

And I do Hawaii 1-2 times a year. It's partially a work thing

Mark Henderson

Do you think you'll ever have kids?

ewwhite

I throttle some work... but I'm at a point where I need to be doing 1-2 big infra upgrades at my clients each month. That means 2 California trips and a NY trip each month

Mark Henderson

If you ever have kids, you won't know the meaning of spare time :P

ewwhite

01:41

@MarkHenderson I can't bring myself to...

wife is also hesitating.

I think I'm too selfish... and too damaged.

Mark Henderson

Well you two just enjoy your disposable income then

And I'll just be over here, crying into an empty bank account

Scott Pack

@Wesley While interesting that doesn't really fit into the theme of our chat.

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson I just asked her if she wants my seed.

She's like, "we'll talk after we sell our old house, furnish new house and fix the roof"

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Babies take 9 months before they come out. Nothing like a deadline to get shit done

Well fwiw, I didn't want kids this early on in my life, and I don't really like kids, but like most parents will tell you - it's the best thing I ever didn't mean to do

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson I can imagine. I had a rough childhood... and it's hard to envision myself as the modern parent.

Mark Henderson

01:47

Well, it can give you the chance to right the wrongs of your childhood. But either way; don't be too scared to give it a go.

jscott

@MarkHenderson You're only 28! You might be able to have the house, your time and your money back before you're even 50. Unless the whole gtfo at 18 isn't the norm in AU.

Mark Henderson

But there's no rule to say you have to of course

@jscott I will kick him out at 21 if he's still there

But the plan is by the time i'm 50 I will fuck off for months at a time

All the kids will be in their 20s by then

Thats basically what my parents did

ewwhite

i'm 33... wife is 31

wondering how late is too late

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Well shit, that's something I'm better at than you then. I'm way better at getting bitches pregnant

@ewwhite For men, biologically, almost never

My boss's wife just had a kid naturally at 41

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson Oh, I didn't say anything about not getting people pregnant!

Mark Henderson

01:49

(but she has a total of 6 now, so I think fertility is easy for her)

As far as how late is late as per your life goals; that's up to you. I know lots of people prefer to do their money making and traveling in their 20s and 30s and have kids later in life

I don't think there's any right or wrong answer, there's just what works for you

Michael Hampton

Woah. They're replacing yum. Apparently didn't make it for RHEL 7 though.

Mark Henderson

It's harder for women. They need to strike a balance between being a monther and being a professional

For men, it's the same story - need to strike a balance - but it's easier for us I think

Wesley

@MarkHenderson We need to strike a balance between getting laid and getting paid.

Ry Jones

@Wesley cash over ass, each and every god damn day, that's the motherfucking way

►

Wesley

@RyJones Whoa there buddy. But yes. =P

ewwhite

01:56

@MichaelHampton but why?

Ry Jones

Ice Cube delivers a lot of important life lessons in between his cursing.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite yum is slow, doesn't have a reasonable API, and to eliminate duplicate code across various packaging-related packages.

Been trying out dnf today. It's lightning fast. No longer will Debian people be able to hold that against us.

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton why do I need for yum to be faster?

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite So you aren't staring at your screen quite as long?

ewwhite

It's like saying that my toilet flushes 40% faster...

Can I overlay DNF on my RHEL6 systems?

Michael Hampton

02:00

@ewwhite It's all part of the user experience. You don't have to wait around for your toilet to flush...

@ewwhite I don't think it's been backported...I'll check

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton I mean, I do watch my poo to make sure it goes down without staining the toilet bowl...

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Well, in that case, maybe you do need a 40% faster toilet.

ewwhite

and in the cycling world, DNF means "Did Not Finish"

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Yeah... I think it's a temporary name. But it'll probably stick if someone comes up with a good backronym.

Then again it might be somewhat faster because I have a local mirror of Fedora, CentOS and EPEL.

Ry Jones

I am going to test this fellow on the lab machine, sir

jscott

02:04

@MichaelHampton Wait.. apt-get was ever claimed as "fast"?

Michael Hampton

@jscott Faster than yum, anyway.

Here's a sample rant about yum being slow.

jscott

@MichaelHampton I have limited CentOS/RH experience, mainly Cisco appliances, but I never really felt yum was slow in comparison the apt-whatever.

Michael Hampton

@jscott It is slower, but not by that much.

I think some people exaggerate in order to validate their personal choice to use Ubuntu.

ewwhite

it's like being worried about boot time...

jscott

I exaggerate in order to validate my personal choice to not use Ubuntu!

Mark Henderson

02:07

@MichaelHampton You can't be serious

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite I do worry about boot time... when you reboot every 30-90 days for kernel updates, it's hard not to.

@MarkHenderson Well, however slow yum is, it's still orders of magnitude faster than Windows Update.

Mark Henderson

I remember the first time I ever saw a proper server boot. I was 14 doing work experience with Dual Pentium Pro 90 compaqs with 15-disk arrays

It was impressively loud and impressively slow

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite And wait until you see RHEL 7... if you blink, you'll miss the boot process.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Point taken

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson *BSD still boots like that. It's no longer loud, but it is insanely slow.

Magellan

02:10

Yum does seem to be slightly slower than Dpkg/Apt. But at least you don't have to reboot 23 times like Windows

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton These were NT4

Most of the time was spent painstakingly detecting every single disk in the array

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson And powering them up sequentially, no doubt.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton but the hardware will still take 10 minutes to boot the mgmt chip set stuff

Michael Hampton

@Magellan God, I love virtual machines.

Mark Henderson

@Magellan Haha the only SuperMicro server we have, I thought it was broken. Pushed the power button and nothing happened for about 15 seconds

then all hell broke loose as 15 fans span up and down

jscott

02:13

Good thing UEFI is here to fix it all. Oh, wait...

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strugee

@MichaelHampton kexec()

Magellan

IBM does that. And sits for 15 minutes doing something or other before you finally get a boot prompt

strugee

@MichaelHampton at least it's not Solaris

Michael Hampton

@strugee kexec only shaves about one second plus the GRUB timeout, in a VM.

strugee

@MichaelHampton true

I run on bare metal so I get hit more

Mark Henderson

02:19

@strugee The only things I've had run on bare metal in the last 5 years are ESXi and SQL Server

strugee

@MarkHenderson that's because you're a professional. I'm a 15-year old hobbyist who has about two users using a single machine on a standard home connection :P

Mark Henderson

@strugee and esxi is free

As is KVM

And Xen

And, if you're into sicko stuff, Hyper-V

Michael Hampton

Here's a nice video of booting RHEL 7. s000.tinyupload.com/… (Ogg Vorbis)

Mark Henderson

Not judging - but if you want a skill to learn up on before you hit the job market I'd get up to date on virtualisation

strugee

@MarkHenderson but why would I add the overhead of virtualization if I don't need it?

Mark Henderson

02:23

@strugee Learning

@MichaelHampton Fuck that

Seriously

strugee

@MarkHenderson oh definitely. I'm learning Puppet even though I don't have a ton of use for it (because again, single server)

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Fuck Ogg Vorbis?

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton No, fuck that boot time

Did it even do anything or did it just print the output and return true?

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Yes, it was completely booted and ready for login.

strugee

systemd works wonders

jscott

02:25

@MichaelHampton wat

Michael Hampton

Of course, that VM has no services installed. So it's the lower bound on the boot time...

Mark Henderson

Did it pull the Microsoft trick of deferring everything so you get a login prompt ASAP but you can't actually use the computer for another 15 minutes?

Michael Hampton

The desktop boot takes a little longer.

@MarkHenderson Mostly no. Pretty much everything is up and running by the time you see the login prompt.

strugee

@MarkHenderson services are lazily loaded when they get socket requests but you can toggle it and its fast either way

not sure which is the default

Mark Henderson

Interesting

strugee

02:29

sorry, network services like sshd. stuff like avahi that needs to broadcast/connect/whatever isn't deferred.

Michael Hampton

systemd is crazy fast.

strugee

<3

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton So then Ubuntu will be fast now as well? ;)

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Not for a couple of years. It will miss 14.04

Ubuntu isn't going to start playing with systemd until after Debian jessie goes stable.

strugee

for reference, on a low- to middle-end computer systemd boot to gdm takes about 4 seconds, not counting time waiting for encryption passwords

@MarkHenderson Upstart does parallel boot too. so the difference won't be nearly as fast as coming from sysvinit like Debian is

Michael Hampton

02:33

So with that schedule, I'm not sure about 16.04 either.

strugee

but it won't cost processes anymore which should speed things up. although again not as dramatically as Ubuntu uses dash for init scripts

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite So, yeah, in the future the OS will boot faster than the Power and Thermal Calibration... :)

ewwhite

:(

Michael Hampton

Hey, it isn't a bad thing, as long as it works. Though I would expect to see the vendors pressured a bit to improve power on self-test times.

MDMarra

sup everybooooody

Michael Hampton

02:39

@MDMarra We're talking about how fast our computers boot, it seems.

MDMarra

Mine just took 8 minutes

It was installing 10.9.2 though

Michael Hampton

17 mins ago, by Michael Hampton

Here's a nice video of booting RHEL 7. http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=22045932771715379599&t=220459327‌7171537959940244 (Ogg Vorbis)

MDMarra

thats fun

Michael Hampton

All you have to do is throw out 30 years of crufty code...

ewwhite

@MDMarra I'm researching Normcore

strugee

02:42

@MDMarra it installed in 8?

mine took like 30 IIRC

MDMarra

2012 MBP with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD

2.5 GHz i5

Magellan

@MichaelHampton Don't be dissin' LILO.

Michael Hampton

@Magellan LILO? I was referring to Windows.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton Ah. On Mobile.

also sitting here at the hospital waiting.

jscott

@Magellan Really hoping that's not a bad thing.

mossy

02:58

sup

Magellan

@jscott Babies soon.

jscott

@Magellan Congrats, and in the plural too, oh boy.

Magellan

@jscott gonna be interesting. they're at 36 weeks as of last Sunday and K had a bit of complications starting this morning, so they're inducing. But 36 isn't all that early for twins. They might even go home with us this weekend.

the proxy in front of the wireless here at the hospital is pretty F'd up too.

strugee

@MichaelHampton I thought you were referring to /bin/init from System V

@Magellan don't leave us hanging...

Michael Hampton

@strugee Well, yes, that too.

Magellan

03:04

@strugee the babies will get here when they get here.

strugee

@MDMarra that would be why. late 2009 iMac or something, 4GB of RAM and no SSD

@Magellan I meant the proxy?

Magellan

@strugee Not much I can do about that. I have no intention of being booted out of the hospital after breaking their shit-ass proxy.

Ry Jones

@Magellan I have a spare iPad 3 with verizon cellular service. I will loan it to you and you can activate the Verizon service, it's $20 a month.

Michael Hampton

> This is a general question, the actual workload type or software does not matter

strugee

@Magellan no no no no I meant, what is so screwed up about it?

Magellan

03:07

@RyJones I got tethering with my TMO too if I get too annoyed. The 4G CNAT is pretty annoying too.

strugee

drops traffic? hijacks DNS? what?

Michael Hampton

Requires credit card?

Magellan

@strugee about every 3rd or 4th post is requiring a retry because it says I'm not logged in.

Ry Jones

@Magellan OK, just offering. I know how stir crazy you can get in a hospital

Michael Hampton

Ah, changes IP address.

Magellan

03:08

@RyJones this ain't bad. Nice big baby delivery room with a view across Cap Hill toward the west. Was a nice sunset. Too cold to open the door onto the balcony though.

MDMarra

Some dumbass girl just posted her acceptance letter to the university that I used to work at publicly on Instagram. It has the password to her intranet/portal account in it where here financial aid, grade info, billing, etc are found. Hell, someone could even cancel her enrollment from there.

strugee

@MichaelHampton how do you know?

Ry Jones

@MDMarra let her know

Michael Hampton

@strugee I'm guessing.

strugee

@MDMarra see also twitter.com/NeedADebitCard

MDMarra

03:09

@RyJones It would spawn World War III.

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra Someone should.

strugee

@MichaelHampton ah. I was wondering if I missed something

MDMarra

But I agree, she should be told.

Ry Jones

@MDMarra well give me a url and I'll tell her

jscott

Does it include a meal card?

Michael Hampton

03:11

Post the link to /b/

Ry Jones

email it to me, ry.jones@gmail

jscott

Else, can you just connect to that phpmyadmin install and change the password for her

MDMarra

bahahaha

That ghastly phpmyadmin install doesnt have anyhting to do with production data

Ry Jones

comment added sir

MDMarra

it was for some web dev professor

@RyJones you done good

jscott

03:13

@MDMarra I kid, I kid.

Ry Jones

we'll see how much she argues about it

MDMarra

I bet it disappears

Ry Jones

I hope so

704 followers? oh man

gone

so that took like... 30 seconds on her part. She has "notify on comment" enabled :)

MDMarra

haha

jscott

@MDMarra Regarding earlier, I think you meant "isn't" not "is" in this answer. Unless I'm just having trouble parsing "There is (and never was) a self-service functionality..."

MDMarra

03:17

@jscott oh. yes

you are correct, I can't speel

jscott

Me knee there.

Joel E Salas

03:49

Is training people considered a good thing to be doing

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Depends. Do you want them to be knowledgeable and productive?

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Of course, I just wondered if having to train people was indicative that I was growing in value to the organization

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Oh, yes, probably so.

Joel E Salas

Hooray!

MDMarra

@JoelESalas You're most valuable to an organization when you get to start approving people's time off

not

Joel E Salas

04:01

@MDMarra I'm pedaling as fast as I can!

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Michael Hampton

04:53

@RyanRies You're the PowerShell expert, here's a puzzler for you.

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