The Comms Room

MDMarra

15:00

Sneakernet

pauska

I can publish to SCCM+App-V against non-domain joined?

MDMarra

Fire everyone and not worry about it

pauska

Oh yes, kill the staff.. hmmmm

MDMoore313

SCCM Application Catalog, user athentication. Do you have active directory?

@pauska

pauska

@MDMoore313 yes

MDMarra

15:00

@pauska you can do app delivery to non-domain computers with SCCM. We have a large client do it now

pauska

@MDMarra do all the clients have to be Windows?

MDMoore313

You can advertise the apps to specific users, they log into the app catalog and see what's available to them

@pauska

pauska

no wait, that doesn't make any sense

MDMarra

Haha

pauska

@MDMoore313 oh I would have to get this automated somehow

MDMoore313

15:01

@pauska sccm sits on top of powershell......

pauska

IT DOES NOT

sccm uses ZTI

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra It's pretty convenient (and non-coincidental) that Point-of-Sale and piece-of-shit) share the same acronym.

pauska

but yes, we're using SCCM already internally

I guess I have to try to lab this then... no need for intune really

MDMarra

@HopelessN00b Yup. Win 7 POS edition non-domain joined with a franeknstein of ZenWorks and SCCM

What a fun project for the people involved

MDMoore313

@pauska I'm referring to the ability to 'automate' this, you can use powershell to advertise and deploy packages

RobM

15:03

why would people do that to themselves?

MDMoore313

@pauska are you referring to OSD?

MDMarra

@RobM We tried. Hard.

pauska

@Dan how much hardwarez would I need for ~150 concurrent VDI's?

RobM

:-(

pauska

do you oversubscribe at all?

@MDMoore313 no the internal sccm scripts

MDMoore313

15:04

@pauska Yeah, I shouldn't have said it sits 'on top' of it, but you can leverage it

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Wow. Sounds like it could be easily solved by domain-joining things too. Ugh. I hate those projects. "For purely non-technical reasons, we're going to make your life suck, K?"

MDMoore313

@pauska but that day is coming

pauska

Windows Server 2012 Remote Desktop Services User CAL (50)
Retail
You have claimed 0 of 4 keys

eh, MSDN doesn't have VDI keys?

Dan

@pauska Min of 2GB RAM each + hypervisor requirements. CPU ratio of 4:1 - 8:1 vCPU to Physical

pauska

@MDMoore313 oh I'm sure it is

Dan

15:06

Then disks depend very much on tech, but fast storage of course

But local is normally fine

TheCleaner

My burps all smell like rotten eggs today...am I getting sick?

cole

e_e

pauska

@Dan 8:1 vCPU to physical cores? or sockets?

Dan

@pauska Cores, sorry

Jenny D

@TheCleaner it's just the bofh inside you making himself noticeable

MDMarra

15:07

@pauska don't forget to enable CSV caching. Serious IO performance improvements for pooled desktops if you go the RDS VDI route

pauska

@Dan and with HT? 10:1?

@MDMarra and VDI dedup!

Dan

@pauska I just checked and ours are normally around 11:1 with HT and 2vCPUs per machine

TheCleaner

@JennyD hrmmm....well I did change a user's port to 10-half this morning because they called me bitching about how Outlook 2013 sucks compared to their old Outlook 2007.

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Jenny D

@TheCleaner nods approvingly

pauska

@Dan shame you haven't done any microsoft vdi projects.. would be interesting to see how dynamic memory kicks in

Dan

15:11

@pauska Yeah, though I don't like overcommitting RAM

pauska

@Dan you do 1:1 RAM allocation?

with failover capacity?

Dan

Failover doesn't really come into it

Our VDI boxes support a fixed number of clients and that's that - if they lose a box, they lose that number of clients

Other than that, the clients are identically pooled - so it's pure numbers, no functionality is lost

If you want failover, you should build n+1

Just found this: https://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/30418-102-705989/XenDesktop%20and%20XenApp%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf

Ignore that it's Citrix, Page 25 onwards has some nice hardware info. Citrix overhead is pretty low, so those numbers should be correct on most platforms

TheCleaner

Holy crap...I think I just threw up a little in my mouth:
"Taco Bell is moving in on the morning market, angling to compete with fast-food rivals such as McDonald’s by launching a breakfast menu nationally on March 27.

The menu -- which the Irvine company said is its most extensive in more than 50 years -- includes items such as a **waffle taco**, the A.M. Crunchwrap and breakfast burritos."

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-taco-bell-breakfast-20140224,0,2657154.story#ixzz2uLalvpkH

HopelessN00b

Ugh. Vending machine here took my dollar and then broke. And then hurt my foot. Not a good start to Tuesday for me, so far.

mossy

@TheCleaner I can't be bound to a toilet from 9-noon.

MDMarra

15:21

@HopelessN00b It's 10:20 AM and I havent had a chance to shower yet.

I'm with you

TheCleaner

@mossy laptop has poor battery life?

mossy

"Ah, what better way to start the day than with a great big Taco Belch ! !"

:|

TheCleaner

Well, I love a good breakfast taco...I'll travel to San Antonio just for a good one. But something tells me that's not TB's goal here.

mossy

I'll try it and let you know.

HopelessN00b

@mossy Can't be any worse than starting the day with nicotine, caffeine and a bag of Doritos. (My breakfast of champions.)

TheCleaner

15:26

@HopelessN00b that's brutal...but yet you'll probably outlive us all.

Jenny D

@HopelessN00b I start the day with caffeine and tramadol

HopelessN00b

@TheCleaner Ugh, I hope not. Then again, God's clearly pissed off with me, so maybe.

TheCleaner

Anyone know how to set the URL on SF to combine both of these? serverfault.com/unanswered/tagged/?tab=noanswers and serverfault.com/unanswered/tagged?tab=mytags -- I'd like to look through "Questions with my favorite tags and zero answers"

HopelessN00b

@JennyD Sounds like fun... but without a legal source of fun pharmaceuticals, I'm stuck with caffeine and nicotine to start off the work day.

Dan

@HopelessN00b Gee, you sound healthy :D

Jenny D

15:30

@HopelessN00b Well, being able to walk is more fun than otherwise. I speak from experience :-)

Tanner

@HopelessN00b no bourbon in that coffee? :P

pauska

tips for everyone: Don't remove CREATOR OWNER from your hyper-v vm folders....

HopelessN00b

@Tanner I'd love to start the day off with several ounces of a nice, old single malt... the employer has a strict policy against that, however.

Dan

I did actually start this morning with a latte which is unusual

But I'm running tonight, so it's legit I reckon

HopelessN00b

@Dan Hey, my heart's not gonna stop itself. At least, not soon enough for my taste, so I gotta help the process along a little.

pauska

15:34

@Dan I just tested dynamic memory on a windows 2012 r2 VM.. the memory demand after boot with no users logged on is 288MB

Dan

@pauska :D Ace

pauska

Windows 8.1 should be even less

Dan

I still wouldn't overcommit, personally, thuogh

HopelessN00b

@pauska Alright. Gonna install Server 2012 R2 on my Droid X3. TomTom won't be the only one around here running Exchange on his phone...

pauska

Well.. it's not overcommit like in vmware world

the OS actually reports back to the hypervisor in a smart way.. and you can configure hyper-v to always have a certain % of headroom available

this is all possible because of all the work they put into making windows 8 fit on arm tablets

Dan

15:36

I appreciate that, but RAM is cheap and if it's ever contended (Which, granted, maybe it won't be) it's going to due

pauska

aidanfinn.com/?p=12237

but yes.. RAM is cheaper than providing the ultra fast storage needed for paging if you run out of RAM

that blog explains it pretty good

HopelessN00b

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A: Unanswered question sort order

What you want is the my tags section, which lists unanswered questions in the tags you spend a lot of time in (or alternately, have explicitly set as your "favorites" if you have some of those). Note that this also includes questions that do have answers, but only when none of the answers score...

pauska

"014-02-25: The order and choice of sites on the top-left site switcher can now be customized"

WAT

finally

TheCleaner

@HopelessN00b kind of helps

HopelessN00b

@TheCleaner Not a lot, since the search seems to eliminate the mytags tab, but given that Shog's answered this question already, it's probably as good as we'll get.

TheCleaner

15:41

yeah noticed that...crap

I guess I can be kind and upvote others in the process

HopelessN00b

Well, I guess I'll wade into the shark tank and see what bits I get bitten off me.

@TheCleaner Oh, n'mind, I see what he wants/expects us to do.

No, that doesn't work. Fucking hell, I'll just ask.

@TheCleaner Ahah! Got it. answers:0 intags:mine Returns unanswered questions in tags you've favorited.

Tanner

I'm going to shamelessly dump this question here: softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/1650/…

HopelessN00b

Wow. Hitting all the "no good software exists for this" categories, huh?

pauska

@MDMarra balls.. Microsoft doesn't support CSV dedup on Hyper-V hosts.. you have to set up dedicated scale-out fileservers with a CSV backing and then export it over SMB3

@Tanner any inhouse devel going on there as well?

Tanner

@pauska yeah, there is.

pauska

15:51

@Tanner are you using atlassian tools like Jira?

Tanner

@pauska nope :)

pauska

ah :/

Tanner

yeah... it's pretty much chaos right now

pauska

I was going to suggest using Confluence (which can be tied to Jira/Fisheye) and then find some ticket system that integrates with those

it can all run on windows

Tanner

oh nice

pauska

15:56

they actually have a service desk for Jira aswell now

give it a go.. their 10 user pack is dirt cheap and you get all their products

Tanner

definitely will. thanks.

faker

we also use Jira and Confluence here. While painful to operate sometimes, I really like using them

pauska

no wait

they require identical user licenses for every one who uses the helpdesk

just forget jira and their service desk then

"Choose the same user tier you pay for in the Atlassian host application. For example, if you have a JIRA download license for 25 users, you should purchase this tier.

Even if fewer users want to use the add-on than your host application license, the two licenses should match exactly."

this would mean $14k for us

for something we pay $10 for today.. plus our other helpdesk system of course

HopelessN00b

@pauska Why does everyone fuck up licensing? I mean, it seems like it should be the easiest thing in the world to manage and customize, but everyone makes it a freaking nightmare.

Journeyman Geek

cause lawyers.

HopelessN00b

16:07

No, lawyers is how they get away with squeezing ridiculous amounts of money out of their customers. Doesn't explain why they make purchasing their products so hard and inflexible

pauska

blogs.atlassian.com/2013/11/…

"Since JIRA Service Desk launched just over a month ago, we’ve heard a lot of feedback from our customers, and we want to thank everyone who spoke up! Generally the reception has been fantastic; many customers are actively using JIRA Service Desk and loving it."

they have about 1000 1-star reviews where people complain about the licensing

I love how PR people spin everything in their direction

Dan

It's what they do :D

What they haven't realised is that the customer isn't that stupid all of the time

MDMarra

@pauska SCCM for non-domain clients is as simple as (somehow) delivering the client with the right config (.mst, or script-based install with args)

Apparently the internet distribution point is the hard part to set up, with cert reqs, etc. But once thats up, enrolling and managing non-domain clients with SCCM is simple, according to my dude

Apparently if you're not using SUP, etc in the Internet DP, it gets easier. So if you only care about software push and software catalog, it's not as tough, but a full-Internet-based DP is trickier

pauska

@MDMarra thanks mate.. Will set this up in a lab with proper cert(s) and give it a go

yeah I'm not going to be using SUP for these clients

Dan

makezine.com/video/making-fun-mission-control-desk

Thisis the best thing ever

HopelessN00b

16:23

You have two sites "critical to [your] operations" running through ISA 2006, on Server 2003? Either you have a very different definition of "critical" than the rest of the world, or someone has done something horribly wrong. Possibly both. Either way, I would probably take this as an opportunity to move to a new(er) platform. — HopelessN00b 9 secs ago

Jenny D

@HopelessN00b snerk

HopelessN00b

...and he's being a dumbass.

"We need these sites to work, now"

pauska

►

cole

hm

what to have for lunch

Nathan C

In the midst of printer driver hell

._.

pauska

16:35

look at that video.. especially at 0:52

cole

@NathanC oh no :(

pauska

my stomach...

it's work safe, but jesus christ...

Nathan C

@cole I suppose it's better than being up in a scissor lift terminating cat6 cables

cole

@NathanC agreed

Nathan C

Most driver installers don't include the actual .inf files, so I have to hunt for them once I install it so I can add x86 drivers to the print server

Dan

16:36

@NathanC You can normally extract them

Nathan C

Or, in the case of Kyocera, they have drivers that are close, but not exact

(KX versus non-KX)

Dan

Can't say I've ever had any issue, tbh

Nathan C

meh, I gave up for now. Back to cable terminating...

HopelessN00b

16:59

@MDMoore313 Gave that question a good answer. Well, a proper answer. The answer is "no," sadly. :(

0

A: Can Remote Desktop Services be deployed and administered by PowerShell alone, without a Domain in WIndows Server 2012 and 2012 R2?

As I was setting up an environment in a lab to try this (a simple RDS deployment wihtout a domain), I found the answer to your question, though it's not the one you want to hear. RDS in [Server 2012 and 2012 R2] requires all its servers to be added to a domain. That, according to a program mana...

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b You beat me to it....

lol

@HopelessN00b I had my laptop muted, just came across it on the main page

HopelessN00b

Sucks that you need a domain to deploy RDS with 2012... doubly so because now that I've done that, I have to get back to work instead of satisfying my curiosity.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b that does suck, because 1)I no longer have the need to try it and 2)Best practice would indicate you now need at least 2 servers for an RDS environment, a DC and an RDS server. Both could be virtual, but still, the DC would just be a glorified ldap server and maybe manage some gpo for your rds

HopelessN00b

17:16

@MDMoore313 RDS requires DHCP too. Which, in truth, is the one service I don't mind running on a DC. And it sucks for me too, because the difficulty and PITA of lab-ing and piloting an RDS deployment just went up, and that's something I've been wanting to do for $employer, since we don't have one.

Jacob

@pauska We're looking at the Jira service desk

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b yeah the whole thing requires dhcp I forgot about that. But, you don't have a Windows domain at your $employer?

Magellan

mornin gents

Wesley

@TheCleaner There's this guy...

@Ward Gotta get mah head tube reamed. Also, did you get my message a little while back about a bike for a six foot lady?

pauska

@Jacob how many jira user licenses do you have now, and how many are going to access the helpdesk in one way or another?

Iain

17:21

@Wesley when will you stop going round in rectangles?

Jacob

@pauska 10 or less

Wesley

@Iain Have any other shape requests? =)

pauska

@Jacob you need the jira service desk for 10 people?!

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton Do you use cpupowerutils?

Jacob

@pauska Task mgmt.

freiheit

17:22

@Wesley draw a monkey

Iain

@Wesley rhombus

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Don't have RDS. Have domains and forests all over the place.

Wesley

@freiheit I have considered how I could draw some... ehh... rude... things.

freiheit

Wesley

@Iain I'm looking at other Strava users in the area and I think I've found some good routes up into the hills, but those are 25 to 30 mile rides. Not sure I'm ready for that length plus elevation.

@freiheit Dedication.

HopelessN00b

17:24

@ChrisS Hey, was gonna post the below to that jackass... since you locked the post, would you maybe send the KB his way?

Well, you inferred something that wasn't implied, in that case. [In any event, is this applicable](http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944006)?

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b so it's not a total loss for you, seems like you could implement one with little effort, hardware pending

Wesley

@MDMoore313 and @MDMarra need to Jello wrestle for who keeps their first three letters.

Tab complete hoists me again.

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Yeah, not impossible, just more difficult... and in an environment that already makes it difficult to do work. Meaning the odds of me getting around to it are falling sharply.

freiheit

@Wesley Check ridewithgps.com , mapmyride.com and local cycling clubs.

Wesley

@freiheit At what length on reasonably flat paths does one need to consider bringing food?

freiheit

17:28

@Wesley I sometimes get hypoglycemic, so I always have a little food with me. Otherwise maybe 2 hours. Rule #91 says 4 hours, but that's too hardcore.

Basil

@freiheit HEY! I'M ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT WRIST, LIKE RIGHT NOW!!

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Wesley

@freiheit Okay. I'm still a slow rider, so two hours would get me maybe 25 miles.

freiheit

@Basil I don't know what city that's in. French names and a river... Paris?

Basil

That's right, keep starring... 1 minute left on my edit clock... :P

@freiheit Close enough. Montreal.

Wesley

@freiheit French Guiana?

Basil

17:29

French Canadia

Wesley

@Basil Côte d’Ivoire?

freiheit

@Basil I'm sure a bit of googling the place names on the map would've told me that. :)

or, you know, looking close to see the trans-canada highway on the map...

Wesley

Sacrebleu!

Basil

Montreal, the land of hot women, insanely good food, and -40 degree winters

Wesley

@Basil Can you ship a womens down to me here in the warms?

Basil

17:31

@Wesley Nobody says that here. That's more of a france thing. Here, they say "Astie tabarnac"

Wesley

@Basil Nasty tabernacles? You have Mormons there?

Magellan

@Basil and little hip-hop thuglets speaking in French. Which makes me giggle at them.

freiheit

@Basil I thought that was more of a france over 50 years ago thing that nobody said anymore outside of movies...

Wesley

@freiheit He's just trying to get you to say it so you sound silly.

Basil

Wesley

17:32

@Basil -.-

Basil

@Wesley As soon as our women turn 50, they retire to florida

HopelessN00b

What's the appeal of Windows storage spaces? Is it just a desperate longing for a decent filesystem (a la btrfs, xfs) on Windows?

Basil

@Magellan I speak French like Steven Harper.

Magellan

@TheCleaner Outlook 2013 does suck compared to the UI on Outlook 2007. I hate the stupid ribbons.

@Basil sorry. cache miss. Not sure I've ever heard of Steven Harper.

@Basil Do you guys still have Quebecois "terrorists" still running around up there trying to rejoin France or something?

Basil

@Magellan That's the government now

Magellan

17:36

@Basil uh, the government's trying to rejoin France?

Basil

they aren't blowing things up literally any more, but they're writing racist tirades into law, hoping to galvanize voters into voting for separation

so far, it's not working

Magellan

Because like 23 people and a moose live in Quebec and there's one hell of a lot of hydro power there?

Basil

@Magellan Actually, I think it's the second largest province, next to Ontario. So like 6 or 8 million here

Wesley

@Magellan Has to be more than that to have two full benches in a hockey game. I'm thinking 24 people.

Basil

and yeah, most of the resources

well this was entertaining: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_French_profanity

pauska

17:40

@Jacob You can assign tasks in Jira.. you don't need the service desk for that

Magellan

crap. time for my stupid pre-meeting before the afternoon meeting

HopelessN00b

@Magellan Actually, last time around, the native tribes that technically own all that land with the hydro power and resources in the northern part of the province said they'd stay with Canada... kind of a big wrinkle in the Quebec separatists' plans.

Magellan

@HopelessN00b Ha! Now that's funny.

freiheit

@HopelessN00b Still sounds more likely than splitting California into 6 states...

Basil

@HopelessN00b That wouldn't happen. Canada would be interested in keeping the peace so they can negotiate a deal that would hurt citizens on both sides of the border as little as possible. And if Canada and Quebec both agree on something, it doesn't matter what the natives say or want. All they can do it protest.

HopelessN00b

17:55

@freiheit Yeah, but that one's actually a good idea. Well, goodish. At least California's stupid laws wouldn't dictate products for the whole nation based on their market size.

@Basil Yeah, well, first Canada would have to agree to let Quebec go, and Quebec would have to actually agree to leave... which wasn't exactly a likely course of events, even had they got a majority vote.

freiheit

@HopelessN00b It's not a good idea for anybody in California, except rich Sili-Valley people.

Tanner

I could stand to see Washington split in two...

Basil

@HopelessN00b If they voted that way in a referendum, it would probably happen. I don't think separation will ever get popular support in Quebec, but Canada wouldn't try to do anything that would damage an already bad situation.

HopelessN00b

@Basil Nah, at least for the leaders of the movement, it was all political brinksmanship. They'd have come back with an offer for more "special status" treatment in exchange for not separating, and Ottawa would have been all to happy to give it to them.

Basil

@HopelessN00b That last referendum came pretty close

pauska

18:01

@freiheit someone hates socialism....

Basil

well, the one in the late 90s

MDMarra

@Wesley I was first!

HopelessN00b

Yeah, it did. Though, as I recall, the conventional political wisdom was that even if it had passed, they wouldn't be separating, but using the result to negotiate for more special status from Ottawa.

Almost a pity... I was hoping it would get me out of having to learn French at the time.

Wesley

@MDMarra "Sex done wrong, by @MDMarra with foreword by @HopelessN00b"

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freiheit

@pauska A corporate-controlled command economy is naturally much better than a government-controlled command economy. Because, you know, reasons.

HopelessN00b

18:03

@freiheit Well, to be fair, it probably is, though maybe "better" isn't the word. Probably more along the lines of "marginally less horrific."

freiheit

@HopelessN00b Depends what horrifies you, I guess.

Ward

@freiheit A guy I know tried to do a Valentine, but it connected the points where he stopped/started recording.

strava.com/activities/113330592

cole

Finally

coffee

HopelessN00b

@freiheit Well, the things that happen under every centrally planned economy ever... starvation, re-education, mass executions... etc.

cole

So this is a thing: foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/24/…

mossy

18:07

That looks very American.

Wesley

@WARD !!! WAT R U DOING

freiheit

@Wesley mapmyride.com/us/scottsdale-az ridewithgps.com/find#search/0/… and strava.com/routes/new (click the gear and turn on heatmaps and bike paths)

cole

The cashier at Walgreens told me I had a beautiful name. Made my day.

Did I miss that @Wesley got a bike?

freiheit

@cole He fixed up the free 80s bike that he had laying around, and has been riding laps around tiny rectangles lately. The new bike is still just a frame and almost no parts that will be an actual bike in about 3 years at the rate he's going...

cole

18:23

MY LIFE IS IN SHAMBLES.

I've missed so much

HopelessN00b

adminspotting

Iain

@freiheit for indeterminate values of 3

cole

Whoa - someone just powered something on and it sounds like a.......personal massager.

Nathan C

@cole giggity

freiheit

@Iain I was being generous, it's true. He did say he got the headtube reamed recently, though. Give him another couple months and he'll have the bottom bracket shell reamed, too, and actually be ready to attach bike parts he doesn't have yet to the frame...

cole

18:25

I love coffee.

TheCleaner

Yo...I need live support!

I have a Netgear N600 wireless router that I can ping -t fine to, but connecting to the admin portal hangs like crazy. I get the login but after login I have to click a menu item about a dozen times for it to ever show anything...as if its internal web server isn't working right. I even managed to flash it with DD-wrt and it still gives the same symptoms on the admin portal. Should I just trash the thing?

MDMoore313

@TheCleaner what's the ping delay while pulling up the web page?

Basil

@TheCleaner Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?

MDMoore313

^ouch

Basil

:D But seriously, I'll bet a poutine that it's a hardware issue.

TheCleaner

18:34

@MDMoore313 jumps from 2ms to 30-48ms for a sec...then back to 2ms.

@Basil yes 3x, even tried arranging it by penis...didn't help.

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MDMoore313

It's probably executing javascript....

MDMarra

@TheCleaner It's getting close to Easter time. When you get together with your family, maybe you can have a tech savvy family member give you a hand in setting up your wifi network.

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:D

tombull89

oh snap

Basil

oh god, that poor bastard

MDMoore313

I second the hardware issue thing. It persisted across the factory OS and DD WRT? There's a slim chance it isn't since DD WRT is just a rewrite of the factory OS, but likely hardware related yes

@TheCleaner time to toss it

TheCleaner

18:36

@MDMarra lol...true! I should ask my mi-ma if she's familiar with DD-WRT...

Basil

So really, our motd should say that we're willing to do live support, but only if you're willing to first endure horrible zings at your expense.

MDMarra

hahahaha

tombull89

@Basil or willing to stump up $$$

TheCleaner

and of course Netgear's KB reads like I'm talking to level 1 support at GeekSquad: kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/957/~/…

Basil

@tombull89 I only take alcohol as payment. Anything else, and I'd likely get in trouble at work.

but for srs, @TheCleaner- if you have problems with two different OSs, then it's really a hardware problem.

Scott Pack

18:40

G'day gents.

Mark.

TheCleaner

@Basil well, I'm good with it being hardware, but what's odd to me is that DD-WRT via telnet flies right along

MDMoore313

So, why are the chat transcripts googlable?

Scott Pack

Devops

mossy

So it doesn't get too weird

tombull89

Is Chat lagging like hell for anyone else? It takes ages to scroll.

MDMoore313

18:44

@mossy what's the difference between weird and too weird

HopelessN00b

TIL, you can run ADUC from a workgroup PC.

@tombull89 Not me... and I'm doing it over RDP, through my employer's ridiculously undersized pipe.

tombull89

@HopelessN00b Probably FireFox nomming all mah ram.

mossy

@MDMoore313 Too weird is when @ewwhite is off topic

Scott Pack

@mossy You mean @ewwhite's clients.

MDMoore313

HopelessN00b

18:45

@tombull89 Yup. I gotta restart Firefox every day or so for that reason. (I am also ridiculous in that I have several windows and hundreds of tabs open.)

@MDMoore313 Probably an SEO benefit to it.

Scott Pack

@HopelessN00b I recently switched back to Chrome from Firefox. My RAM utilization dropped by 5GB.

Basil

@TheCleaner The hardware that holds that part of the OS might be ok.

@ScottPack Chrome is nice because you can kill individually large pages from their task manager

HopelessN00b

@ScottPack Yeah, I use both... but it's only for the RAM-munching reason that I use something other than FF at all.

TheCleaner

@Basil I'm going to open it up and see if I can really break it.

Basil

I still reboot it once in a while, but that's mostly because I'm lazy and don't want to figure out which of my pages or addons (coughflashcough) is high

@TheCleaner You ever licked a cmos?

Scott Pack

18:48

@Basil That's pretty much why I keep going back. The tab handling in Chrome is rubbish but I get tired of one of my 130 tabs chewing up the entire browser session.

Basil

@ScottPack and now that they show me which tab has sound... yeah, chrome.

TheCleaner

@Basil I'm going to try swapping the chips. I've seen lots of TV shows where they "swap the chips" and then things work out for the best.

Scott Pack

@TheCleaner Isolinear?

MDMoore313

@TheCleaner I think you're next

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Q: Is there an effective way to bulletproof a MacBook Pro?

It would be nice to take a MacBook Pro to the range to collect some data, but I don't want it to get hit by a ricochet (or anyone with a bad aim). I can't find anything on Google about bulletproofing a MacBook, does anyone have any experience? I'd like to be able to use the MacBook at the same ti...

My original was a lot better, they edited it

TheCleaner

@ScottPack more like Spies Like Us - missile scene

@MDMoore313 I may ask it anonymous, unless the SE staff bans me for it.

HopelessN00b

18:55

@MDMoore313 I'd upvote you, but that would require making an account at the Mac SE site... so, not happening.

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MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b I understand your dilemma.

ewwhite

@mossy What?!?

TheCleaner

@HopelessN00b not to worry, I just upvoted him

mossy

@ewwhite :p

MDMoore313

If I didn't have the urge to downvote stupid questions such as this apple.stackexchange.com/questions/121345/… that somehow go viral, yet my questions are somehow off topic

Basil

18:59

@MDMoore313 We could start a thing... we could all go an ask questions about how to do hideous things to macs

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