The Comms Room

voretaq7

20:00

@freiheit yeah I think we were talking about that in here a few days ago?

@SpacemanSpiff Welcome to the cult my friend.

Have you found the magnet tool yet?

cole

@SpacemanSpiff I've heard good things about omnigraffle

pauska

2 Dec 05 2013 21:00:09 195.0.236.8 195.0.236.8 Deny IP due to Land Attack from 195.0.236.8 to 195.0.236.8

cole

Omnigraffle is Mac only, right?

pauska

land attack? that's new..

voretaq7

@cole that's because you hang out by me and I gush about it all the time

freiheit

20:01

@voretaq7 I have no idea, as I basically haven't been around for a week, due to holiday/vacation.

voretaq7

@cole yeah it's a Mac-Only thing

freiheit

Damn clicky arrows shouldn't move so much just as I'm about to click them!

voretaq7

@pauska it's old actually - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAND

cole

Dammit, I need a Mac.

I miss having one.

Ry Jones

@SpacemanSpiff agreed

@cole they're like $500 for a mini

cole

20:03

@RyJones I know, paying off debt has been more important though :)

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton it's a camp pot - you're basically just supposed to boil things in it

cole

I told myself I'll buy one once I've paid off my CC debt

voretaq7

but yes I see that as a design flaw too

Matt Bear

has anyone played with ADFS 3.0 yet?

cole

Since it's really just a want and not a need

@MattBear yes, por que?

voretaq7

20:03

@cole Celebrate paying off your cards by running them up again! :-)

Ry Jones

@cole SIR YES SIR

cole

@voretaq7 fuck no - I'd pay in cash money only.

voretaq7

I need to buy a new mac - the video card in mine is DEFINITELY fried

Ry Jones

I'm waiting for the mac pro to come out

Matt Bear

@cole I'm spinning one up now, to use SAML with SharePoint 2013

voretaq7

20:04

@cole SMACK NO! Pay with a rewards card, then pay it off immediately

Cash Back, Bitch!

cole

@voretaq7 or that

That was my point though - not just putting it on credit and paying minimums

I AINT ABOUT DAT LYFE NO MO

pauska

I have a feeling I'm going to see @cole in one of those US "coupon" shows

cole

@pauska oh god no - but I do use coupons.

pauska

"YESSSSSSS! I managed to get 90 boxes of bleach by paying $2!"

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@pauska Coupon Cole!

pauska

20:05

@DennisKaarsemaker !!!

Okay, let's keep that nickname.

cole

And now there's coffee on my keyboard @DennisKaarsemaker

pauska

Okay for you, @CouponCole?

cole

thank you

@pauska got it

voretaq7

Chase Rewards + Apple => "Earn 2 extra pts/$"

so basically "3% cash back on your iPrecious"

cole

@voretaq7 wow I didn't know that

And my two oldest and highest limit cards are Chase :)

voretaq7

20:07

@cole do you have the rewards programs on them?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@pauska if it's a nickname it should be Coupon Cole NT

cole

@voretaq7 one's Amazon, other Rewards

Wesley

@voretaq7 I'm still pissed that Chase stopped the rewards programs on their debit cards.

Only CCs now.

Pauska Sock

@Wesley You're welcome!

voretaq7

@cole ultimaterewardsearn.chase.com

cole

20:07

@voretaq7 what are dis

Wesley

@PauskaSock Sock monkey.

voretaq7

@Wesley that had something to do with the federal banking law changes

Wesley

@voretaq7 I know. #thanksobama

voretaq7

@cole the chase "rewards mall" thing you have to shop through to get the extra points

cole

@voretaq7 oh cool, thanks

voretaq7

20:09

(Also +5 for Macy's online through the mall, +10 for Kohls - there's sometimes really good deals in there)

cole

@voretaq7 my oldest credit card that I'm about to pay off is a Chase Rewards card.

voretaq7

the downside is sometimes you don't get super-special sales if you come to the partner site from the "rewards mall" so you need to think about that

cole

Btws - I have 4 Simple.com invites if anyone's interested.

voretaq7

and dude I am ALL ABOUT raping chase for every penny I can get out of that rewards program

pauska

smartkarriere.no

voretaq7

20:10

(because seriously they want every penny they can get from me!)

pauska

is it loading for you guys? just put it behind my new shiny 10gig LB cluster

cole

@voretaq7 how long does it take for money to transfer from your bank account to simple?

@pauska loaded quick for me!

voretaq7

@pauska seems a little sluggish at first but it loads

pauska

it's in Norway.. so latency is expected

thanks

MikeyB

@pauska løaded in a flash!

cole

20:11

also do you put all your money into simple.com @voretaq7?

voretaq7

@cole not yet, my account there basically idles - it's SO MUCH EFFORT to change banks :(

also I'm in NY - you can't spit without hitting a Chase ATM

cole

Ah

voretaq7

which is really what's stopping me from moving money over

cole

Lots of Bank of America ATMs here

I have Citizens Bank, which are around but less than BoA.

voretaq7

I wish it wasn't so hard to change banks

Ryan Ries

20:12

What's that figure of speech when someone invests heavily into something, but they keep going even though it's a losing game because they've already invested so much?

cole

I've just had Citizens since I was 16.

Michael Hampton

Simple is free at, well, a shitload of ATMs

voretaq7

I have so much shit tied in to these accounts :(

Michael Hampton

@RyanRies Throwing good money after bad?

Ryan Ries

@MichaelHampton Yeah that might work

Michael Hampton

20:13

MDMarra

Someone tell me about simple

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra It's the first bank I've ever seen with a mobile app that doesn't suck, and xkcd-style passwords are mandatory.

MDMarra

@pauska Something's not right with that site

cole

@MDMarra YOU WANT AN INVITE

MDMarra

I can't understand a word on it

cole

20:14

Also, dat mobile app.

fapfapfap

MDMarra

But why would I move from TD Bank to simple. Besides the website/mobile app, which isn't important to me

cole

@MDMarra no ATM fees

Falcon Momot

@RyanRies sunk cost

pauska

@MDMarra only proud vikings can read it

Michael Hampton

No monthly fees, no ATM fees

MDMarra

20:15

@cole Interesting, but I only take out money once per month from the ATM near my apartment and I dont pay monthly fees now

Does it have better interest rates like Orange?

cole

@MDMarra well then...there ya go.

voretaq7

@MDMarra Data visualization tools is the real reason to use Simple

MDMarra

Is the differentiator the slick interface?

Michael Hampton

The app classifies all your spending and lets you see where your money is going

TheCleaner

@MDMarra - got the wife a Surface RT with touch cover from TigerDirect on Black Friday for $225. Got it today. Decent little device...more than enough for her needs.

cole

20:16

The interface is super nice, holy hell.

voretaq7

it's good for people like @Cole's GF who can't budget

cole

@voretaq7 I think she said she applied for an account and got denied.

MDMarra

@TheCleaner nice. My productivity with mine went through the roof when I upgraded to a touch cover. They're on ebay for like $60

cole

It looks like I could get away with no using Mint at all and just Simple.

voretaq7

@cole you can use one of your invites :)

MikeyB

20:16

@voretaq7 Sounds like it would be good for me.

cole

@voretaq7 why would she be denied?

Michael Hampton

Though for some reason it classifies 7-11 as "Gas" even when I just bought a coffee inside.

cole

Her credit really sucks too

MDMarra

@MichaelHampton I have that with mint now, with the added bonus that it does my CCs, investment accounts, and loans as well.

voretaq7

@cole I don't think they're "denying" people actively, it's more "we're not taking anyone right now"

Matt Bear

20:17

hah hah hah... My company just posted a job opening for a systems administrator... $16-$20 an hour... I wonder if that will get any applicants

Scott Pack

@MichaelHampton It's based on one of the codes in the merchant id.

MDMarra

If I don't use my debit card ever, is there an advantage to simple?

David

@RyanRies It's more formally called the Sunk Cost Fallacy

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra Probably not

MDMarra

I've been considering moving banks but because of the saving account interest rates - so that's probably my #1 concern

Scott Pack

20:17

@MattBear That's only slightly lower than OSU.

cole

@voretaq7 ah ok

MDMarra

@MichaelHampton Damn :(

voretaq7

@MDMarra not really because your expenses will just be big chunks rather than discrete items you can track and analyze :-/

@MDMarra Ally

Matt Bear

@ScottPack OSU... Ohio State?

voretaq7

I'm thinking of moving my ING (now Crapital One) stuff to Ally

David

20:18

@voretaq7 Do you have to be in the US?

voretaq7

@David I think so

Scott Pack

@MattBear Affirmative. The postings they put up say 45k-55k/year.

MDMarra

@MichaelHampton I put purchases on my CC and pay it off each month. I get bonus points and I don't get screwed if someone makes a fraudulent charge (again)

@voretaq7 I'll check it out

David

@voretaq7 :(

Matt Bear

• Must have Associate’s Degree in Computer Science or related subject
o Preferred: Bachelor’s degree in in Computer Science or related subject
• Must have Minimum 3 years’ experience in customer service and performing computer hardware/software technical systems troubleshooting
• Minimum 2 years’ experience in server maintenance, configuration, and support
• Minimum 2 years of experience in administering Office365
• Minimum 2 years’ experience with VMWare
• Minimum 1 year of Active Directory experience

cole

20:19

I need to get one @MDMarra and @voretaq7's level with my $$CASH MONEY$$

MDMarra

At TD's rates, a CD ladder literally isn't worth the time it takes to set it up

voretaq7

@David check with their support team

cole

I rolled my 401K over to a Roth IRA

MDMarra

@cole It ain't about the money coming in. It's about the money going out

cole

'bout $10K in thurr

voretaq7

20:19

@MDMarra Same at ING. If I can't get at least 3% interest a CD isn't worth it to me

Michael Hampton

bank.simple.com/friends/f4ed92fd-0a5c-25f2-9db1-e628554765e4 Here, now you can all sign up for Simple and skip the wait.

cole

@MDMarra oh yeah, that's what I mean - need to smash my debt

MDMarra

$_$

cole

BLING BLING

MDMarra

Practice Director just called. I might be doing a 7 forest FIM deployment for O365. God help me.

voretaq7

20:20

@MDMarra "practice director"?

MDMarra

So, in consulting there are some weird jobs

cole

You know, I only got paid for 3 days last week because of the holiday (they don't pay me holidays as a contractor) - and for the first time in years I wasn't stressing the fact that my check was a little more than half of what it normally is.

MDMarra

like practice director

voretaq7

is that the guy who coordinates fire drills and shit? He's waiting for the day they let him be a real director? :-)

Matt Bear

@voretaq7 isnt < 3% below inflation?

MDMarra

20:21

haha

voretaq7

@MattBear yes.

cole

FIM! I work with FIM

MDMarra

No he's the director of our Microsoft consulting practice

SpacemanSpiff

ok, magnet tool, jeebus

MDMarra

@cole I may be picking your brain then

cole

20:21

Next week I start a FIM project O_O

voretaq7

@MDMarra "Director of Microsoft Services"

MDMarra

@voretaq7 not exactly

Matt Bear

@voretaq7 yeah... that would be stupid, invest it in strip clubs and booze

voretaq7

fucking practice director - what a lame weak-ass title!

cole

@MDMarra It's a beast.

Do you do also with ADFS too?

MDMarra

20:22

I don't yet

cole

CERTS ON CERTS ON CERTS BRO

Michael Hampton

In that case, you're (1) on your own, and (2) apparently outside the bounds of what I'd expect in a professional environment. — Michael Hampton 8 secs ago

KILL KILL KILL

voretaq7

@MattBear I haven't set up CDs since rates on them fell below 3% on the 90 day tier

pauska

urgh - I wish someone ported iperf to C# or something..

MDMarra

@voretaq7 A practice director in our case works with Microsoft to determine their roadmap, new initiatives, etc. They keep that relationship good so that Microsoft kicks us projects when customers ask MS who they should use. He doesn't have anything to do with the delivery of said services. He also works with the sales teams to do pre-sales work and make sure that sales are actually..you know...selling the right shit

voretaq7

20:23

it's not worth it to me -
Term	APYAnnual Percentage Yield
6 Month	 0.40%
9 Month	 0.40%
12 Month	 0.40%
18 Month	 0.40%
24 Month	 0.40%
30 Month	 0.70%
36 Month	 0.70%
48 Month	 0.70%
60 Month	 0.90%

MDMarra

Then, we have a delivery manager who is ultimately responsible for making sure that the work that gets sold gets done, and done properly

TheCleaner

I use Mint...but I have the same issue as @MichaelHampton in that it doesn't always classify stuff correctly either. I've heard good things about Yodlee as well. I can't really switch to Simple since I'm with my credit union.

MDMarra

Then we have team leads for each group who are technical leads and don't deal with that sales BS. I'm one of them now

voretaq7

I mean seriously -- that's pathetic. 5 years and all I'm going to get is 0.9% annual yield

MDMarra

Then we have engineers that do the work

voretaq7

20:24

@MDMarra "EVP of Microsoft Services"

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner Well I understand the Gas thing, and that's the only problem I've found. But that's easy enough to fix.

voretaq7

I think that was Tracy's title at $job[-1]

MDMarra

@voretaq7 heh, I dont think that we have any VPs actually

Matt Bear

@voretaq7 Real Estate... stocks may rise and fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to get it!

voretaq7

@MattBear I don't have the liquid assets to invest in real estate :-/

David

20:25

I want to use Mint, but I can't quite get over the idea of handing my bank account password to someone

Matt Bear

@voretaq7 invest in stocks in a real estate company...

TheCleaner

@MichaelHampton Mint sometimes will classify things like charitable giving as shopping. It also tends to frustrate me that the "weekly status" email is never accurate.

Matt Bear

oh and +500 internet points if you can tell me (without googling it) where that quote came from

voretaq7

boiler room? :)

probably not, but it sounds pyramid-schemey enough

ewwhite

I'm on the train to New Jersey. I think there's mold growing on the seats.

voretaq7

20:28

@ewwhite I told you not to go to Jerzee silly man.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite That's not mold....

voretaq7

There's a REASON nobody uses sEWeR.

pauska

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MDMarra

nice

now set it up right

TheCleaner

@MattBear Wall Street? I don't know...sounds like something from that. Or maybe Other People's Money?

heh...googled it...never would have guessed that...but makes sense now...I even remember the scene

cole

20:32

28 minutes!

Matt Bear

@TheCleaner thats who I get all my investment advice from

after all, he's a billionaire, and look who he's competing against!

ewwhite

My train is broken.

cole

Writing this out just makes me realize how bad the situation is: reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/1s3ert/…

TheCleaner

@MattBear I believe in trickle down economics. That's why I spend everything I make. I'm trying to help out the people "below" me...

voretaq7

@ewwhite NJTranshit.

ewwhite

20:34

The doors stopped working. MaintenAnce needed to close door #6 at the front of the train.

voretaq7

one step below Spamtrack.

@ewwhite only one pair of doors failed? You're doin' good!

Anonymous

hello internet

cole

I have to say - The Comms Room has really changed my view on money.

Matt Bear

@cole daaamn... She's gonna have to, A. Move, B. Get a much better job (housing should be no more then 33% of your income, not 75%), C. Invest in a good pair of knee pads

ewwhite

I took the Acela Express here @vore

cole

20:39

@MattBear I agree

@MDMarra lol at your comment

MDMarra

:D

cole

@MDMarra My sister, friend and therapist told me to be "have patience"

voretaq7

@ewwhite Crashela?

MikeyB

@cole No, patience == doing nothing == deeper in the hole

voretaq7

I'm surprised about the seats then

cole

20:40

That I can't just "give up like I always do" when something difficult like this happens

ewwhite

Does everything in NY and NJ suck?

4

voretaq7

@ewwhite The subways are nice

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Yes.

@voretaq7 The new subway cars are kind of nice, I'll grant you that...

voretaq7

@MikeyB <-- @cole what he said

@MichaelHampton none of the remaining (revenue service) cars are over 30 years old

cole

Ok so I'm not being completely irrational here, yes?

voretaq7

20:41

(with the possible exception of the museum train, which may be running in revenue service right now)

cole

(Figures, the three people who told me to have patience are women -_-)

ewwhite

I was just on an old subway car. And some guy spilled the contents of his JC Penney shopping bags.

voretaq7

@cole I may be a heartless, calculating machine of a human being here, but I consider financial stability to be a key factor in dating someone

cole

@voretaq7 It has become one for me.

voretaq7

I don't want to have to be buying dinner all the time

@ewwhite How old? :)

pauska

20:42

I'm one of those who pays 80% of the expenses, but then again my girlfriend is a student

but I do understand your frustration

MDMarra

@cole ask them how much their net worth is. Then ask them what their debt to income ratio is. Then you can determine if theyre giving good advice here :)

ewwhite

My wife and I have this issue.

Mark Henderson

@MDMarra I have no idea to the answer of either of those questions for me

ewwhite

She pays for food and some monthy subscriptions.

voretaq7

@ewwhite mta.info/metrocard/promos/Vintagetrain

ewwhite

20:44

I handle mortgages.

cole

@MDMarra good point - all carry debt

voretaq7

we apparently have dragged it out of mothballs again :)

MDMarra

@pauska I pay almost 100% expenses but theres a difference betweeen not making a lot and being a financial mess

pauska

@MDMarra true

cole

My sister owns her own business - but their net worth is extremely low, my friend - recently got fired and my therapist - well, not the most financial savvy person.

Mark Henderson

20:45

My wife and I just throw everything into a single large pool and pay everything out of that. There's no "I pay" and "she pays" any more

MDMarra

My wife chose a career as a public librarian. She doesnt make a lot. But she also doesn't have any outstanding debt except her student loans and she lives within her means with her spending

To me, at least, that's fine. I make a lot more, I pay for a lot more

cole

@MDMarra she doesn't have say...5+ accounts in collections

MDMarra

But this girl sounds like she's a fucking mess and doesnt even really want to figure out how to fix it

Matt Bear

@Cole women have some weird issues when it comes to money... I guarantee you, if it was a 'boyfriend' instead of a 'girlfriend', they would be telling you to dump em

MDMarra

There's a difference there

cole

20:46

@MDMarra She grew up super poor - and her mom's a bit of a nutcase.

My girlfriend spent 3 years of her childhood in a homeless shelter

voretaq7

@MDMarra Which debt-to-income ratio - the ones banks use or the one I use?

MDMarra

doesnt matter

cole

Her mom was so negligent that she spent all of 7th grade with lice.

pauska

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two VM's connected to the same 10gig switch, no routing involved

what the hell

MDMarra

@voretaq7 I was just making the point that when debating whether or not to continue a committed relationship with someone that's a financial wreck, you should discount advice from other financial wrecks

cole

20:47

my therapist keeps saying "Remember, no one taught her these things."

84104

@cole Can she learn them fast?

MDMarra

My response to that would be "And if we get married, I'll be teaching her them at the expense of my future"

Wesley

Fricking glitter on Hallmark cards.

cole

@84104 I don't know - she gave me an attitude last night when I was trying to help her.

Wesley

Gets on my hands

MDMarra

20:48

But of course, no one can make the decision but you

voretaq7

@MDMarra absolutely

cole

@MDMarra that's pretty much what i said.

Wesley

Then my face

cole

And of course - women tell me I'm a dick for that

Wesley

It looks like I just made out with a rave girl.

voretaq7

20:48

My personal rule about debt is I should not have more outstanding debt (loans) than what I make in 1 year

cole

Glitter - The herpes of the craft world.

8

Wesley

@cole I SWEAR I DIDN'T TOUNGE THAT CANDYGIRL!

cole

@voretaq7 I can for one say, that's true for me!

hooray

Wesley

@voretaq7 One meeelion dollars!

MDMarra

I have a strict no-glitter rule. If glitter gets into the apartment, there's a strict decon process.

1. Throw out the thing that has glitter on it.

2. Kill everyone involved from delivery to opening of the glittered object

3. Burn the bodies

cole

20:49

I'm trying to build a more solid emergency fund before going all cray cray with throwing my money at debt

I fucking hate glitter.

Mark Henderson

@cole I hope you're not thinking of paying off her debts?

Wesley

@MDMarra If you ever have someone you hate beyond words: Glitter on the top of a stationary ceiling fan.

cole

@MarkHenderson Oh fuck NO

MDMarra

@Wesley D:

voretaq7

@cole there's a little more to it than that, but I've found if I'm getting good interest rates and reasonable loan terms that's a good ground rule

cole

20:50

I think that's what she wants me to do, and no way.

pauska

@cole you really don't want to go there

MDMarra

@voretaq7 tough with a mortgage, sir

Mark Henderson

@cole Yeah; no

cole

I refuse

voretaq7

@MDMarra not really, depends on how much house you want

MDMarra

20:51

All the house

voretaq7

my mortgage is about 2/3 of what I make in a year

MDMarra

12 bathroom, minimum. A guy's gotta poop.

cole

She hasn't asked but I think she's hoping I'll offer

Mark Henderson

@cole Honestly, I suspect she's so defensive because she knows she's dug herself into a hole and doesn't want to admit to the mistakes she's made

voretaq7

but the mortgage is an exception - the rule my parents taught me about mortgages is "about twice what you make in a year"

Mark Henderson

20:51

@voretaq7 Your whole mortgage, or the repayments?

cole

@MarkHenderson She kept calling herself an idiot. I told her if she continues to do so, I will not help her at all with budgeting.

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson my whole mortgage

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 what the fuck?!

voretaq7

Remember I live in a studio apartment in the suburbs

it's just me

MDMarra

You have a lizard

cole

20:52

@voretaq7 how big is your studio?

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 I used to live in a 2br in the suburbs and it still cost us $300,000

ewwhite

I pay... Well, I think mortgage is about 5% of what I make.

voretaq7

@cole about 500 sq. ft.

ewwhite

But I always kept housing low.

voretaq7

@ewwhite in terms of payments my mortgage is.... hmmmm

cole

20:53

@voretaq7 yeah my one bedroom is similar. $725/month

@ewwhite need dat cash for your gyro spit.

voretaq7

yeah around what @ewwhite is paying - 5-6%

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 I'm happy to admit that my mortgage is $2550/month

voretaq7

10% if you include my maintenance

cole

I'd like to buy a condo for about $80K if possible

Mark Henderson

@cole Geezus

cole

20:54

Think I'm gonna be paying more around $120K though

Mark Henderson

The cheapest property on the market in Sydney last week was $280,000 and it got passed in

cole

IN THE SAFEST CITY IN AMERICA, BITCHES!

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson My mortgage is $503 and co-op maintenance (which includes taxes that would normally be rolled into the mortgage) is about $457 - so all together about 900/month

Mark Henderson

(and thats all of Sydney; not just the bit thats actually called sydney)

@voretaq7 Wow your maintenance is quite high

MDMarra

You have to remember @MarkHenderson that since trees don't grow in Australia it's much more expensive since wood has to be imported.

Mark Henderson

20:55

(I assume anyway; when I had an apartment our maintenance was $1500/year)

MDMarra

You can't build a home out of kangaroos, after all.

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson not really - it's about average for nassau county.

cole

@MDMarra you could, but it wouldn't last very long.

and it would smell.

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson 1BR is about $900, 2BR is $1200 in my building

cole

@voretaq7 where the fack do you live? That's similar to where I live.

Since I'm in the 'burbs of Boston and a college ~~town~~ city.

MDMarra

20:56

Lawn Guy-land right?

Michael Hampton

3BR condo $775, condo fees $150

voretaq7

@cole in the ghet-to

cole

@MichaelHampton NH living, yo.

MDMarra

My 1BR apartment is $875 + utils in the philly burbs

Ry Jones

@Wesley weworkremotely.com/jobs/189

cole

20:57

@voretaq7 ah I live here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin,_Massachusetts

MDMarra

Any house worth living in is 300k+

Michael Hampton

@cole I dare say I have a shorter commute to Boston than many people in Massachusetts!

Wesley

@RyJones Saw it a while ago. Skillset way over my head. =/

cole

@MichaelHampton you probably do! lol

I've debated moving to NH for that reason, tbh.

Wesley

> Nginx, MySQL, Ubuntu, Redis very well.

Ry Jones

20:57

@Wesley apply anyway and work on hacking

Michael Hampton

@cole In moderate traffic it's 60 minutes to Downtown Crossing

Wesley

MySQL and Ubunto okay, not very well. Nginx and Redis no.

=(

@RyJones I like your style.

voretaq7

@MDMarra ...around here yeah.

pauska

Guys

please

Ry Jones

ubuntu and mysql are trivial, nginx is a little harder, and redis is about as hard as sendmail

voretaq7

20:58

you can get very nice houses in the midwest/southwest for $175-250

Wesley

@RyJones I assume these place want "WOW. SO DEVOPS." and want you to "hit the ground running" as the cool HR people say

cole

@MichaelHampton Damn that's not bad at all.

voretaq7

but there's no work there

Ry Jones

@voretaq7 then you live in the midwest

pauska

anyone have a solid alternative for iperf? It seems to be running rubbish on windows, and I really need something to test actual network performance

MDMarra

20:58

@voretaq7 Yeah I meant around philly

cole

@MichaelHampton takes me a bit longer - I usually go down Rt 1 to the VFW to get into Boston.

Ry Jones

I can get a palatial spread in Idaho for about $250 - that's on a couple hundred acres

cole

Past Gillette Stadium and what not

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 And we're about halfway through getting the T to extend a commuter rail line all the way up here

Wesley

@RyJones Idaho is pretty country.

voretaq7

20:59

my buddy Joe has an AWESOME place outside Vegas that he got for like $280 (4BR/2.5bath)

Ry Jones

@cole oh you must be a huge Patriots fan then

cole

@RyJones I am, because you'd be beaten in my household if you were not :)

Ry Jones

going by the stadium twice a day

voretaq7

here you couldn't touch a house like that for less than about $400k

cole

@RyJones right now I don't :P

voretaq7

20:59

probably closer to 5

cole

I'm working in RI

MDMarra

@pauska Copy a really big file and watch the windows file copy dialog

cole

Ok time to go home, bbiab.

ewwhite

On a fucking monorail!

Ry Jones

the little shit box houses down the street from me are $850k

it's insane

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