The Comms Room

voretaq7

19:00

@Skyhawk Aussie Dollars

cole

@Skyhawk wat

voretaq7

@MikeyB it was dictated :)

freiheit

@voretaq7 Oh yeah, almonds (which aren't nuts)... soy, nut or seeds etc... :)

voretaq7

@freiheit it's not the almond tree's fault it's drupey!

I don't remember the RFC that has the table of address classes - i'm pretty sure it's a 3-digit RFC though

Nathan C

@MattBear That's basically me...except girlfriend instead of wife

cole

19:03

@NathanC dude how long have you guys been together?

Skyhawk

@voretaq7 I saw a fair bit of plastic money in my travels... Singapore, I think, having trouble remembering the others.

cole

I've been dating my girlfriend on and off from almost a year now. We see each other on the weekends, only.

Ry Jones

@cole that sounds rough as hell

voretaq7

@Skyhawk I know .au is very proud of their plastic currency

@RyJones fuck that sounds awesome. Get me a guy like that? :)

cole

@RyJones weekends only?

voretaq7

19:05

"Around on the weekends when I'm free, and not a needy prick when I'm pulling 20 hour days during the week!"

ewwhite

# cat shadow >> /etc/shadow

Ry Jones

@cole the whole thing, the money, the weekends

ewwhite

oops

cole

Apparently @voretaq7 and I should date.

voretaq7

@ewwhite mrrr?

@cole I refuse to relocate for sex

cole

19:06

@voretaq7 you cannot put it in my butt, but I can relocate.

ewwhite

@voretaq7 merging users at a produce site.

cole

@RyJones the money situation is rough. It's certainly taking a toll on me today, I've had heartburn and an upset stomach all day. I slept like shit last night.

I prefer the weekends only.

voretaq7

@cole No more sodomy?

@ewwhite D-:

ewwhite

@voretaq7 Only 1,110 users in the password file

cole

Everyone thinks I'm kind of a dick for telling her weekends only.

Ry Jones

19:08

@cole My own money problems cause me stress, I couldn't handle someone else's issues

@cole I think you need your own space, and if weekends are all you can handle, that's fine

Skyhawk

@cole I would have a lot of trouble with that. I'm an all-in kind of guy.

voretaq7

@ewwhite LDAP you nasty bastard

ewwhite

@voretaq7 Why? There's no other server here.

Ry Jones

@Skyhawk dude, my cat is too involved in my life, I couldn't handle another woman

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ewwhite

@voretaq7 U don't kno produce.

voretaq7

19:12

@ewwhite but then what is there to merge?

ewwhite

@voretaq7 moving to a new single server

voretaq7

@ewwhite I know when the melon is soft and fuzzy you don't want to eat it! That makes me more qualified to pass judgment than the fucktards at Stop & Shop!

ewwhite

Going up versions in RHEL... default accounts differ slightly.

Skyhawk

@ewwhite @voretaq7 Previously, there was this other "weekends only" server.

cole

@RyJones Also she lives in Boston and I live in the suburbs - 45-1+ hour drive.

Ry Jones

19:12

@voretaq7 I miss the "moo and oink"

MDMarra

Ed's excuse for installed a Nexenta VM on an ESXi host that has passthru storage to local disk that runs ZFS that is passed back to the host that it's running on for VM storage: U don't know produce

voretaq7

@ewwhite Migrate to FreeBSD. use mergemaster :-)

cole

@Skyhawk Really? I need my space.

ewwhite

@MDMarra Yet people keep doing passthrough stuff...

cole

Even my cat probably feels neglected sometimes. "No I don't want to cuddle right now!"

ewwhite

19:13

I'm not the only one with convoluted IT reasoning.

MDMarra

haha

voretaq7

@cole YOU DO NOT TELL ME NO, HUMAN SLAVE! <Vicious Clawing>

ewwhite

@voretaq7 All of my flights were canceled today.

well, one cancellation... a rebook, then another cancellation

voretaq7

@ewwhite Fog.

cole

@voretaq7 that happened Tuesday :( i have some nice scratches on my arm now

voretaq7

19:14

@cole and what have you learned, human slave?

ewwhite

so American Airlines said, "we can route you through Detroit..."

Skyhawk

@cole Sharing space is pretty awesome... it might not work quite right except with one person in a million, but I'm unimaginably picky.

Ry Jones

@cole I set mine outside the room and close the door

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ScottPack nothing google translate can't fix :)

ewwhite

or... you can fly at 8pm out of Newark.

voretaq7

19:14

@ewwhite and you said "aw hell no, the mayor is mugging people in the airport to buy gas for his motorcade!"

Nathan C

@cole Uh, officially since october...seeing each other since january

voretaq7

@ewwhite and you said "NEWARK?" and then ripped the ticket agent's throat out?

Nathan C

I'm not paying for "everything" per-say, just stuff she can't afford all the time (food, stuff like that) :P

Andrew B

@voretaq7 Never expected to see obscure MOO/MU* humor creeping into a SE comment thread. :P

ewwhite

I have to figure out how to get to Newark.

voretaq7

19:15

@AndrewB I'm old.

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ewwhite

I'm sitting in SoHo now... thinking I can do this via train and screw the cab.

cole

@Skyhawk That's my issue :( super picky and a very tiny pool to choose from.

Andrew B

@voretaq7 At least you have an excuse then.

cole

@RyJones He just claws at the door

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite You're stuck in New York? What happened?

cole

19:16

@NathanC Ok but still - man, if she's living there?

freiheit

@voretaq7 You're just a baby!

Skyhawk

@ewwhite You want to get to EWR from the city?

Ry Jones

@cole if mine gets too clingy, I give him an overdose of insulin and knock him out

voretaq7

telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888
Trying 64.81.190.250...
telnet: connect to address 64.81.190.250: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

I was going to @age my account. but ^ That happened.

Nathan C

@cole yeah...working on it. jobs are apparently "we just hired x amount of people 2 days before you walked in, sorry"

ewwhite

19:16

@MichaelHampton hotels are all booked full, my flights were cancelled... and the only way out today for me is via New Jersey.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Come hang in Philly

ewwhite

@MDMarra $169 train

Wesley

@voretaq7 And going to be getting older in a few days!

Happy birfday old man.

Michael Hampton

Flights being cancelled? Did I miss a weather report?

voretaq7

@freiheit I've been around the internet long enough that I have firsthand knowledge of the events in my tinyLife

ewwhite

19:17

and even fewer flights back to Chicago

MDMarra

I'll take you to a place that has a pulled pork sandwich with jalepeno mac & cheese on top of it

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton @voretaq7 says FAWG

Ry Jones

Huh, I worked for the Mars family once: washingtonpost.com/local/…

voretaq7

@Wesley age is just a number (until I can collect social security)

ewwhite

@MDMarra That's what you call it now?

MDMarra

19:18

@ewwhite Bolt bus is $1 and has wifi!

Michael Hampton

Go fly out of HPN...
AMERICAN #5349 CHICAGO-O'HARE 4:45 PM ON TIME

Skyhawk

@ewwhite Where are you now?

MDMarra

@ewwhite shhhhhhh

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton if the fog is still as nasty as it was on my drive in the airport accept rates go in the shitter because ground visibility is so bad

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton That's nuts...

Skyhawk

19:19

@MDMarra Except when the BoltBus arrives 15 minutes late and it's some ratty old charter bus that doesn't even say "Greyhound" on the side, and the driver apologizes and says it was the last bus in the yard...

voretaq7

ASDE helps, but pilots still need to see where they're taxiing.

Michael Hampton

Oh wow, look at all that fog

Nathan C

I'm pretty sure this 2k3 server is singing its death song. I await when I can give it a much-needed mercy TERMing.

voretaq7

@ewwhite Flights out of ISP are operating on time too. When nobody uses your airport having your accept rate go to shit doesn't hurt as much :P

Ry Jones

@Skyhawk the bolt buses up here are really nice

ewwhite

19:20

Damn... Well, should I just man-up and go to New Jersey?

MDMarra

@Skyhawk Oh, I've never ridden on boltbus. I'm just telling Ed that it's a good idea. I don't actually believe that it is.

voretaq7

@NathanC "I will sit in the datacenter and sing the song of my people. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP . . . . . BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP . . . "

freiheit

@Wesley FYI, the only ways you can buy a $200 ax is if either you first buy a bike, or if the ax is a bike. stern glare

ewwhite

I promise I'll get a tetanus shot afterwards...

Nathan C

Locks up nearly daily...but it runs our kaspersky installation and it's a PITA to move it

voretaq7

19:20

@freiheit The axe is a bike!

Andrew B

@voretaq7 Heh. Still haven't kicked the habit myself. I have my own fork of ProtoMUCK with a JSONized webserver layer. My sanity is long gone.

ewwhite

@Skyhawk I'm in SoHo... near my old office.

Wesley

@freiheit ...I'm not sure I want to risk one of your enormous feet in by hinder. okayface.ogg

ewwhite

Filling my belly and charging my iPhone.

Michael Hampton

Oh god, EWR. You're going to need more than a tetanus shot after that.

voretaq7

19:21

@AndrewB I have a LambdaMOO server that I used to use for RPGs

Skyhawk

@ewwhite njtransit.com/rg/…

Nathan C

@voretaq7 Luckily it's a VM with no sound, so it's screaming, but no one can hear it.

:)

voretaq7

it implements most of the World of Darkness core mechanics

Skyhawk

@ewwhite If you're in SoHo you can get to Penn Station. Easy ride.

voretaq7

@NathanC if you listen closely you can hear the capacitor whine from the CPU. It's beeping.

ewwhite

19:22

@Skyhawk Yeah, I was planning A C or E up to Penn, then the NJtransit deal

Skyhawk

@ewwhite It'll go fine, except for the being-in-Newark part.

ewwhite

But I needed to set some people on ServerFault straight first...

voretaq7

@ewwhite NJTranshit?

Skyhawk

@ewwhite Dude, you can't make someone straight.

ewwhite

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A: esxi 5 VMKernel and linux driver compatability mode

I don't see the question here... The VMware kernel is NOT Linux... You DO see a modified Busybox user land, though. In addition, much of the core driver support is derived from the existing Linux driver base.

freiheit

19:22

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

Nathan C

@voretaq7 And soon, silence.

voretaq7

@ewwhite oh the VMWare kernel is close enough to Linux

Andrew B

@voretaq7 Admin of misc anime MUCKs here. Currently working on a feudal setting with combat code.

voretaq7

riddled with bugs and nonstandard implementations :P

ewwhite

well, okay... then TOMTOM!!!

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A: Suitability of DL380p-Gen8 + D2700 for SQL 2012 Standard Edition

This is a bad design... Part superstition, part misunderstanding of how storage technologies have evolved. But there's hope! You should be looking at the 25-bay HP ProLiant DL380p Gen8 server. It accommodates 25 x 2.5" disks on a SAS expander backplane. That elminates the need for an external ...

voretaq7

19:23

@AndrewB anime eh? You're one of those tentacle porn people, aren't you?!

Andrew B

@ewwhite Well played sir. If I don't answer yes, the next logical question is whether I'm a pedophile.

misclick, obviously

voretaq7

@ewwhite he's right-ish. I don't generally carve up by spindle anymore when I do hardware RAIDs

ewwhite

@voretaq7 You don't need to... but you CAN.

voretaq7

then again I don't generally do hardware RAIDs unless it's a DB server

@ewwhite yeah, my last DB server is carved that way actually. It's a bunch of disk pairs

ewwhite

on the HP side, you can say "these 20 disks are an array" then, "I want 72GB of RAID 1+0, 400GB of RAID 5, 10GB of RAID 0"

pauska

19:26

@ewwhite to be honest - none of you are right

the whole point is to separate the spindles.. you do not want the tempdb writing to the same spindles as any other data - ever

voretaq7

@ewwhite really? It lets you subdivide the redundancy level across multiple disks?

@pauska this.

ewwhite

@voretaq7 yep.

Andrew B

@voretaq7 Ignoring my fail at meta chat, one of the games I contributed to was a Street Fighter vs. SNK setting. (i.e. attack chun li=hadouken)

ewwhite

@pauska I know SQL has details that need to be accounted for... But I'm also saying that today, thinking in terms of spindles is outdated.

voretaq7

@pauska I vaguely remember saying something like that a LONG time ago in a question about building DB servers :P

ewwhite

19:27

that shit needs to be on SSD

or employ a caching tier.

pauska

@ewwhite not as long as you're actually using spindles instead of flash

Ry Jones

@ewwhite bah SSD isn't the cure for everything

ewwhite

@voretaq7 Yep... it's pretty convenient.

Skyhawk

@ewwhite But, the vendor says.... :-)

cole

1.5 hours to go

voretaq7

19:28

@ewwhite eh, either way you want your transaction logs writing somewhere other than your main DB drive for drive-bandwidth purposes

freiheit

@RyJones It's just the cure for disk latency. :)

pauska

There are big, BIG problems with putting every piece of an SQL server on the same array, even with SSD's

ewwhite

@RyJones the server the OP has allows read caching via SSD.

voretaq7

after the WAL write I want to be able to write to the data disk as quick as I can while sending more shit to the WAL

pauska

@ewwhite not all SQL servers benefit from cache

ewwhite

19:29

but at Logicworks, I had to build the SQL servers with all of the multiple RAID groups... so we did it the old school way.

but we had 25-bay boxes...

so it worked

voretaq7

@ewwhite cost permitting that's how I'd do it even with SSDs though

ewwhite

As long as it's been measured out and is justifiable, it makes sense.

voretaq7

there's two things you want to separate - the spindle and the port

Matt Bear

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haha thats funny

ewwhite

I'm okay mixing and matching, but my applications aren't bandwidth limited

voretaq7

19:31

'cuz if you have 6Gb/sec transfers on each spindle and they're fighting over one 6Gb/sec port that kinda sucks

ewwhite

the server I recommend there is oversubscribed slightly... 4 x 6Gbps ports.

but that's more of a concern for SSD...

voretaq7

ya rotating disk will almost never saturate the controller

separating the port is an SSD thing

Skyhawk

If you used to be dealing with 3-4 digit IOPS limitations, that's not a bad problem to have.

MDMarra

This appears to be gibberish to promote his website

serverfault.com/a/559544/10472

ewwhite

k. time to go to Jersey

Skyhawk

19:35

@ewwhite Safe travels!

MDMarra

BUT, please please please, click through to his website

it's so terribly great

voretaq7

@Skyhawk he's going to Jersey.

ain't nothin safe about jersey.

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra Flag it as spam

MDMarra

woah

ewwhite

I should be able to shower in the Admiral's Club

MDMarra

19:35

already did

wait do answers not onebox now?

serverfault.com/a/559544/10472

Michael Hampton

Not when they're deleted.

voretaq7

@MDMarra baleeted ones don't

MDMarra

oh didnt realize it was dead already

freiheit

@ewwhite That's a euphemism, right?

Skyhawk

@MDMarra That intro would have looked amazing on an Atari ST.

MDMarra

19:37

haha right

voretaq7

@freiheit no, but we're talking about an Admiral's Club in Jersey so it's probably a Bad Idea :-)

Michael Hampton

Went to the site. It was nothing but a (blocked) Flash. Not going there.

MDMarra

Worth unblocking, I promise

voretaq7

I don't visit the sites if the post is obviously spam/

@MDMarra Does he want us to get on his horse?

MDMarra

nope

He wants you to let him implement your CRM system

Michael Hampton

19:38

If it was worth unblocking, someone would have already converted it into a video and uploaded it to YouTube.

Wesley

@voretaq7 Drink this lemonade.

voretaq7

@Wesley Milk, Milk, Lemonade - around the corner FLEA DIP!

MikeyB

@MichaelHampton Hmmmm does youtube auto-convert flash videos?

Wesley

@voretaq7 Llama llama duck!

pauska

fuck, I got so tied up in writing an answer for that question.. forgot where I was in the middle of the network migration here

cole

19:48

@voretaq7 my Simple account has been approved :)

Scott Pack

@DennisKaarsemaker Effort. Nein!

voretaq7

@cole JOY :)

Michael Hampton

I've had Simple for a couple of months now. It's pretty nice.

Wesley

@pauska ...aaaand fired.

voretaq7

kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/… Hmmmmmmm

pauska

19:51

D:

freiheit

@voretaq7 biolitestove.com

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 They bolted it on right through the pot! Cleaning that will be a pain in the ass.

Ry Jones

god damn I wish the assholes that designed my shit robot had used one before they went into production. they're impossible to clean

SpacemanSpiff

an hour using omnigraffle pro, and i never want to use visio ever again, not even the viewer

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cole

@voretaq7 huzzah

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