The Comms Room

MDMarra

03:00

Terribly stupid

ewwhite

@MDMarra THey'd load up Skype once in awhile

voretaq7

@RyJones yeah it looks BLACK in the little jar but it's supposed to be the closest color they could find to cyan

MDMarra

i'd drive it down the stairs

ewwhite

I interviewed a dude over conference room skype through a speakerphone.

MDMarra

So you guys didnt have real video presence set up?

Ry Jones

03:00

@voretaq7 seriously, use small little drops. use a syringe to mix little bits. potent stuff

voretaq7

I'll try toothpick-ing it into the gum media and see what happens - worst case it foams up when I add the sensitizer and my apartment turns into a 450 square foot blue slime mold (which would be pretty awesome)

Ry Jones

the telepresence shit at amazon was always jacked up.

MDMarra

like high quality video/audio meeting rooms with cameras that track sound to display the current speaker, etc

ewwhite

@MDMarra Nope... webex acccount...

MDMarra

lol

ghetto

ewwhite

03:01

there were three conference rooms that were connected and wired up for telepresence.

Ry Jones

so, story time, I worked for FXPal - Fuji-Xerox Parc

ewwhite

but someone obviously never finished.

voretaq7

@RyJones hmm, I do have 1ml syringes around here somewhere - if the toothpick doesn't work I can probably dilute it down in those

Ry Jones

we had an office at Parc, and one in Tokyo. We each had a ring of cameras on the exterior of our buildings and walls of monitors in a conference room.

You could set the walls of the room to look like the exterior of either one

like you were sitting on the roof

ewwhite

@MDMarra And when didn't I describe ghetto things?

Ry Jones

03:02

it was fucking boss

MDMarra

@RyJones nice

@ewwhite So you guys had all these big clients, yet you built your servers from spare parts with no warranty and were broke

voretaq7

@RyJones If you ha to travel from one site to the other did you spend 3 days in the conference room to adjust to the 12 hour time shift? :)

MDMarra

Have you considered that someone is syphoning money in large amounts?

Scott Pack

@MDMarra Have you seen Ed's car?

MDMarra

$_$

voretaq7

03:04

"You're going to Japan, so we're going to lock you in this closet for a few days and fuck up your circadian rhythms so when you get there you'll actually be productive. Trust us, we're research scientists!"

ewwhite

@MDMarra Yes, I considered.

Ry Jones

@voretaq7 dunno, I started the week before 9/11, and international travel was kind of off the radar after that

voretaq7

@RyJones Nonsense, there are perfectly fine cargo ships to sail on! :-)

ewwhite

Because when they couldn't afford for me to travel to NY for the rest of the year... that was a bad sign.

(considering I was never reimbursed...)

Ry Jones

@ewwhite where are you usually based?

MDMarra

03:05

@ewwhite small claims court

ewwhite

@MDMarra and my HP vendor was owed ~$150k in 90+ day-late hardware payments.

@RyJones Chicago.

Ry Jones

@ewwhite shit, shouldn't that flight be about $100 both ways?

voretaq7

@ewwhite when they go bankrupt you can make fun of them in here :)

ewwhite

@RyJones $200-$300.

it's the lodging... I paid about $2k per NY trip

Ry Jones

it's not like shitsville, nebrohoma to fucktown, taxahassee

MDMarra

03:07

File in chicago if you can

They'll either have to fly a lawyer out or you'll get a default judgement

It'll be cheaper for them to pay you

voretaq7

@ewwhite 200-300 if you fly into LGA :P

ewwhite

@voretaq7 By then, they'll have their telepresence robots running the NOC.

voretaq7

@ewwhite ...needs hands.

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 But then you have to be in LGA

Journeyman Geek

actually no

voretaq7

03:08

@ScottPack Exactly

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 I did that once.

ewwhite

Oh, I'm okay with LGA... I go straight to the admirals club.

voretaq7

"Don't worry, the runway overrun is nice soft water"
"Um, that's Flushing Bay. It'll dissolve the plane and everyone inside!"

@ewwhite The one and only time I've ever feared for my life in an aircraft was at LGA

Journeyman Geek

you could have one set of robots pulling and moving rackmounts to a central workplace area and having a pair of robot arms with an electric screwdriver doing replacements ;p

ewwhite

Well, now my NY trips will be fun-filled and action-packed... I'll get to do all the stuff I never wanted to

Like...

Lower East Side Tenement Museum

The Lower East Side Tenement Museum, located at 97 Orchard Street in the Lower East Side neighborhood of Manhattan New York City, is a National Historic Site. The five-story brick tenement building was home to an estimated 7,000 people, from over 20 nations, between 1863 and 1935. The museum, which includes a visitors' center down the block, promotes tolerance and historical perspective on the immigrant experience. History The building at 97 Orchard Street was contracted by Prussian-born immigrant Lukas Glockner in 1863 and was modified several times to conform with the city's developing...

voretaq7

03:10

@ewwhite That's actually supposed to be pretty awesome.

but bear in mind I'm a museum geek

Ryan Ries

"If universal surveillance were the answer, lots of us would have moved to former East Germany. If surveillance cameras were the answer, camera-happy London, with something like 500,000 of them at a cost of $700 million, would be the safest city on the planet. We didn’t and it isn’t, because surveillance and surveillance cameras don’t make us safer." -- Bruce Schneier

ewwhite

@voretaq7 I've tried multiple times to go

voretaq7

@RyanRies Yeah, well.... he's a goddamn fucking terrorist. Peter King says so.

(of course if you ask peter king about ANYONE he says "they're a goddamn fucking terrorist" -- I think that's how lard-ass justifies his existence...)

Wesley

@Magellan Potential fodder for your to serial abuse: serverfault.com/users/193694/jflory7

KILL!

Ward

@Wesley @Magellan has convinced me, so I VtC'd every single question from that guy!

Wesley

03:18

@Ward Whoa I did too! We're like a gang!

We should make our own hand signals and everything.

#SysAdmin #GangSign t(-.-t)

Scott Pack

That's lame.

Ryan Ries

I keep trying to think of new hand signals but they always just end up with .|..

Wesley

@Ward Buy a bike asswad!

/preemptive

voretaq7

SIGSTOP -- Hand held up, palm facing out
SIGKILL -- stabbing motion with the right hand
SIGUSR1 -- "Bitchslap" motion with the left hand
SIGUSR2 -- "Bitchslap" motion with the right hand

Wesley

@voretaq7 kill -9?

voretaq7

03:21

SIGSEGV -- Elbows on desk, face in hands. Muttering something about "Stupid fucking developers"

Scott Pack

@Wesley Bad kitty!

Journeyman Geek

yanno, this is a PERFECT application for a leapmotion controller ;p

voretaq7

@JourneymanGeek . . . are you drunk?

Journeyman Geek

@voretaq7: not nearly enough, no

Wesley

@voretaq7 Random thought: I do not understand people who think they're drinking alcohol but by some mistake aren't, and they start acting tipsy.

voretaq7

03:24

@JourneymanGeek I thought you were talking about a Leap Pad for a minute there

amazon.com/LeapFrog-LeapPad2-Explorer-Learning-Tablet/dp/…

Wesley

Have you ever seen that?

voretaq7

@Wesley Placebo Effect.

There was actually a study done on that

Wesley

@voretaq7 Christmas paper tube to the head! That's for breaking up my train of thought.

Journeyman Geek

@voretaq7: nope. I can see how giving developers devices that are appropriate to their mental age can only end in tears however

voretaq7

@Wesley news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3035442.stm

Wesley

03:25

What the shit is this.

voretaq7

I can't find the study, but that's a BBC article ABOUT the study

Journeyman Geek

@Wesley: your new robot overlord

voretaq7

@JourneymanGeek that Leap Motion thingy actually seems cool/

Journeyman Geek

@voretaq7: it is

and not too expensive too

(and makes more sense than a touchscreen)

Ryan Ries

hahahaha

Scott Pack

03:26

Hey! That lets you telecommute while not getting any of the benefits of!

voretaq7

@JourneymanGeek 90 bucks? Fuck, I might buy one!

Ryan Ries

My life's goal is now to be on the screen of one of those Segway bot things

Wesley

@voretaq7 People are dumb.

voretaq7

...but I on't have a desktop :-/

Journeyman Geek

@voretaq7: they work with laptops too

voretaq7

03:27

@Wesley yes. But we call it "the placebo effect" because it sounds nicer than saying "Y'all so stupid I could give you a glass of non-alcoholic piss water and tell you its Budweiser and you'd think you're drunk."

Ryan Ries

And I will drive into people's offices with my face on the iPad-like screen and just be like 'fuck you' and then slowly drive myself out

Journeyman Geek

actually, iirc there's a few models coming out that have em built in

Wesley

That is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen: vimeo.com/76096255

voretaq7

but my laptop has a multitouch track pad. And I usually use it on the couch or bed where gesture control is slightly impractical

Ooh, I have a Mac Mini hooked up to my TV

Wesley

@voretaq7 Ya'll so stupid you couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel.

And you'd probably drown yourself in the process.

voretaq7

03:28

I wonder if I could rig up a Leap Motion thing so I could control that without needing my bluetooth keyboard/mouse?

@Wesley I'm sorry, research subjects aren't allowed to have boots anymore. Not after the last batch strangled themselves trying to tie a bow in the laces...

We have these nice hospital-grade traction sock thingies though. They're super (un)comfortable

Ryan Ries

I'm sort of laughing my ass off thinking about this iPad taped onto a Segway

Wesley

@RyanRies I'm laughing that someone is going to be making legit money off of that.

voretaq7

@RyanRies I'm laughing thinking about the ways it would get abused

Wesley

If we could just incorporate teledildonics into that....

voretaq7

"UNPLUG ME" post-its on the back of the screen

Moustaches drawn on the front of the screen with dry-erase markers....

Wesley

03:32

@voretaq7 Dildos.

Lots of dildos.

voretaq7

@Wesley . . . are you making a robot dickwolf?

Wesley

@voretaq7 Well now that you gave me that idea...

Ryan Ries

The word 'teledildonics' has already been used too many times in chat tonight.

Wesley

@RyanRies What, teledildonics?

Taking teledildonics into BUTTSCALE!!

Ryan Ries

facepalm

@Wesley Any new success or failure stories regarding the scheduler lately?

Wesley

03:39

@RyanRies Nope - no one new has jumped on it, oddly.

I don't get it, but I don't care. Money in the bank, project done, I'm moving on.

HArdly worked with that guy this week.

focused on my Colorado office, a server migration, and a guy here in town that has a successful MSP that is using me for web work.

@RyanRies Actually, the guy in town is Chisholm

We might be working together more.

Ryan Ries

Good deal. Good to hear that you're moving along. That project sounds like it is not going to make a great deal of money for anyone involved to be honest.

Wesley

@RyanRies EVery single radio station will need to be paywalled to make decent money, and he's now considering forcing the issue for the 2014/2015 sports season.

Falcon Momot

I can't imagine paying to listen to sports on the radio...

Scott Pack

It's about time

Falcon Momot

though sirius xm seems to get a handful of people who will.

Wesley

03:42

@FalconMomot It's rural market prep sports, so no where else to get it. Lots of people want to listen to their grandkids, or other family, play at their old school. Or just want to hear how their school is doing.

I was surprised, but the traffic is certainly there.

It's just the monetizing needs to be kicked into high gear.

Ryan Ries

The funny part is that the target market (i.e. 65+ years old) are probably the only people gullible enough to pay for radio.

Falcon Momot

People never cease to amaze me.

Ryan Ries

So it kinda' works out.

Wesley

So this sports season will be about 300,000 unique people to the service. So far the conversion rate is decently high for the few stations that are paywalled.

But it's still hobby money.

Ryan Ries

But I do like that I was able to help those people be at home with their families instead of flipping switches late at night.

Wesley

03:45

I think if everything was paywalled, it could legit turn into a half million dollars per year of recurring revenue.

voretaq7

@RyanRies Two letters: X. M.

Falcon Momot

I'm not sure subscribing to satellite radio is an indication of gulliability.

voretaq7

@FalconMomot At the prices they charge for it? I'm fairly certain it is

I could buy all the media I want for that monthly fee :)

Wesley

@voretaq7 Naw, see, the new Kia my parents bought had Sirrius satellite, and they let the trial lapse. After like six months of pleading spam mail, they got it down to like $4.50 a month. Now that's not too bad.

Falcon Momot

it can be extremely nice while driving through remote areas, which I had a job doing for like 2 years

Ryan Ries

03:47

I dunno... I've never been a fan of XM or Sirius... I've rented a couple of cars for making road trips that had satellite radio... and there were still commercial ads in it? Why the fuck would I pay subscribe to your shit if you're still playing ads?

Falcon Momot

aah, in Canada none of the stations have ads except the american news.

voretaq7

@Wesley that would be an almost reasonable price for it - if I never had to hear a commercial.

@RyanRies Exactly.

Scott Pack

That's what podcasts are for. I plug in my phone and listen to them in the car.

voretaq7

@ScottPack yup.

Falcon Momot

so it's really nice to have a commercial-free metal radio station, for instance, if I am bored of my ipod library and am on the road.

voretaq7

03:48

And the like $50/year I kick in to the various podcasts I listen to regularly - way cheaper than XM :)

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: that simply means you need a larger library ;p

Falcon Momot

not sure if it's worth $10 a month though.

heh

voretaq7

@JourneymanGeek <--- what he said @FalconMomot :-)

Falcon Momot

it's basically impossible to make it big enough

3

anyway

I must vanish

voretaq7

I have something like 5000 songs on my ipod

every so often on Shuffle it plays something and I'm like "Wait, I own that fucking song? When the fuck did I buy THAT?!"

Wesley

03:50

@voretaq7 "buy"

voretaq7

@FalconMomot Nominee, best quote starred out of context, 2013

@Wesley ...most of it :-x

Ryan Ries

I realized recently that Richie Havens died just a few months ago, and that makes me sad. :(

Wesley

@voretaq7 Celine Dion plays

voretaq7

@Wesley I....actually have no Celine Dion.

I'm a terrible gay man

Wesley

@voretaq7 I'm a terrible straight man.

Journeyman Geek

03:52

I think my music collection is slightly over 100gb

voretaq7

I have... um.... P!nk

and.... uhhhhhh

Wesley

I have spotify so don't really own any music.

voretaq7

Tina Turner

Wesley

I did buy all of Portisheads albums because I lurve them and want to show support.

All three.

What else...

Ryan Ries

Yeah... when it comes to the topic of women, it's funny how the majority of straight men actually end up being terrible at being straight men. >:|

Wesley

03:53

Oh, almost all of Kate Rusby's albums.

Lurve.

Journeyman Geek

gimme a moment while explorer SLOWLY counts all the files I have.

Wesley

Massive Attack, The distance... some others that no one would know.

Journeyman Geek

113 gb, 8531 files ;)

Wesley

Yeah, Spotify saves me a lot of money. $10 a month and I'm good. I flip from Tennessee Ernie Ford to Dying Fetus to Primus to Michael Buble

Excuse me, Michael Bublé

Ryan Ries

Mike Bubble

Journeyman Geek

03:55

boob-boo-leh.

Ryan Ries

videosift.com/video/…

Wesley

@JourneymanGeek BOOBIES!

So I just tried to make an account at a website that shall remain nameless, and used the username :(){:|:&};: - something bad has just happened I think...

Shit I wasn't using my sock puppets either.

Scott Pack

04:11

>_<

Wesley

@ScottPack You shuttup!

Scott Pack

:(

Wesley

Nighters, my little googlie bears.

ZZzzzz

Scott Pack

G'night sweetums

Iain

05:15

G'day

Miles Erickson

@Wesley The last thing the world needs is more squirrel injections.

Ward

@Wesley Offspring... Social Distortion!

Iain

05:35

Going to be a chilly start to my ride today 10C and NE winds - how's the weather holding up in Vancouver @ward ?

Miles Erickson

@Iain If greater Seattle may speak for Vancouver: it's fantastic for this time of year. The rainclouds are invading in waves, but we're still getting some sunny days in the mix.

Iain

@MilesErickson 140 miles on the continental scale isn't that much so I guess it'll be similar :)

Cole

13:27

Morning

dawud

Hey @Cole

Cole

@dawud how goes it?

dawud

lazy caturday

MDMarra

> The server is Windows Server 2008 R2 Software installed in the server : uTorrent, MailEnable, Filezila, Bitvise SSH Server, Freemeter, WindirStart, Free Download Manager, Microsoft SQL Server Express 2012, all .NET Framework version

-1

Q: Windows Server 2008 Suddenly can't connect internet

I have searched though some people has similar problems but non like mine. My server is already setup properly and can connect to internet, and open a browser in the server and can browse any page (normal scenario) In last two weeks, two times suddenly the server unable to browse any page (usin...

windows

Nathan C

Good god...

Cole

13:30

MY GOD

I'm cold with the window open but hot with it closed. First world problems.

Nathan C

@Cole Fan. Problem solved.

Or, open window halfway!

Cole

@NathanC yeah I did the halfway

then I was like MY LEGS ARE COLD

Nathan C

lol

Cole

1

Q: Properly remove windows.old on Hyper-V Server 2012 R2

I have installed Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 on a server that had Hyper-V Server 2012. When I did this, the standard Windows.old folder was created. I now would like to remove that folder safely. The standard way to do that with a full GUI would be to use Disk Cleanup, but of course I don't have that ...

hyper-v-server-2012 server-core

I thought you could just...delete it.

Nathan C

Pants...>.>

Cole

13:32

@NathanC No pants before noon on the weekend.

However, I need to buy a new computer chair today. This one is killing my back

Nathan C

My floor is slightly slanted so my chair likes to move on its own lol

Cole

@NathanC that happens to me too

I slowly roll back

Nathan C

Chair, stahp!

Cole

So I may be putting on pants, before noon, to go to Staples

Nathan C

I made an omelet with bacon, cheese, and pepperoni. yum :3

I found this random omelet pan and thought I'd try it lol

Cole

13:37

I made an omelet with swiss cheese, green and red peppers, and ham

and sriracha

and then oatmeal with raisins and honey

Nathan C

mmm

I realized that eggs will last a surprisingly long time in the fridge. I had a carton in there for a good 3 weeks or so lol

Cole

So I have to buy Windows, since I misplaced my TechNet key

Do I buy Windows 7 or 8...decisions

Nathan C

Neither. You obtain it >.> <.<

Cole

I...don't trust that

On the phone with my sister, I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.

Journeyman Geek

14:01

@Cole: I'd go with 8

if the start screen annoys you just get classic shell or start8

Nathan C

14:18

Or wait for 8.1 and be able to change it natively :P

Journeyman Geek

IIRC 8 is cheaper

and I've been running with start screen, isn't too bad

Cole

14:42

Pretty sure my sister is the best person to get advice from

8 is cheaper

I like cheap

Journeyman Geek

is your sister a computer person? ;p

Cole

today is 10/12/13

Using an Oracle pen to fill out this form. I wonder if they'll charge me a license per form filled out with it.

Journeyman Geek

yes

;p

MDMarra

16:34

Sup, brotatos?

@NathanC Theres no start menu in 8.1. There's just a start button which brings you back to the metro start screen

Everyone that's misinterpreted "we've added a start button back" to mean "we've added the start menu back" is in for a rude awakening.

kalina

indeed, you'll still need to use one of the many third party start menus

MDMarra

Or just use the start screen. It's really not bad

To launch applications in Windows 7, I would hit the Windows key and start typing the application name. To launch applications in Windows 8, I hit the Windows key and start typing the application name. Same exact workflow, different presentation.

kalina

the Windows 8 start screen is quite reasonably for search

I just pin everything I use frequently to the task bar

MDMarra

17:00

same

pauska

17:34

the bad part about the metro start screen is no folders

Microsoft could learn something from Apple there, iOS does folders pretty great

AND WHY FOLDERS YOU SAY? Try to install something that has a ton of start menu entries..

Nathan C

@MDMarra Booo

@pauska I did once. It was awful.

Cole

Sup

pauska

other than that the new start screen works just fine

Cole

yeah I dont mind the start screen

Ward

17:53

Another big problem with 8 is that the metro apps suck, e.g. the image viewer. The older "Picture and Fax Viewer" is better.

Windows key + typing is almost ok, but fails if you want something other than an app. Then you have to mouse over to the top right and pick App, File, Settings, whatever.

Nathan C

found my windows 8 key in my email :p

MDMarra

18:15

@Ward Thats fixed in 8.1

Nathan C

Gonna do an in-place upgrade to windows 8. see you on the dark side.

lol

...after it downloads.

Wesley

Should I take the bait?

@Wesley you think this is madness...why? I still haven't gotten any "professional" feedback from you. — CrackerJack9 40 mins ago

I'd like to give a real, non sarcastic answer.

Michael Hampton

I'm surrpised half his comments haven't been flagged as rude or offensive.

..... waits .....

MDMarra

18:32

One of the 70-417 questions asks about Server 2012 Enterprise. That doesn't even exist! Get your act together @MSLearning !

Tweeted by mdmarra on October 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Cole

@MDMarra damn

MDMarra

It was asking how you can upgrade from 2012 Standard to Enterprise

And there wasn't a "that doesn't even exist" option

Nathan C

@MDMarra Sounds to me like they just replaced "Server 2008" with 2012

and created the test lol

Wesley

@MichaelHampton My comments to him are going to be too long. Any chance it could be re-opened just long enough for me to drop an answer on it and the re-closed? =P

Michael Hampton

@Wesley Brevity is the soul of wit. :)

Wesley

18:47

@MichaelHampton But I'm stupid. =(

@MichaelHampton Also, I'm commenting bombing him anyway.

Michael Hampton

@Wesley And he just needs to die in a fire anyway. No need to waste words.

Wesley

@MichaelHampton He gon' get an eyefull.

And done.

My comment streak starts here:

@CrackerJack9 Culturally professional sysadmins do not build our own servers or modify internal components. I know, I know, "But Google! And Facebook! and BackBlaze!!" They are exceptions to the rule. Exceptions to this culture of "no hardware hacking" within systems administration usually arise from unique circumstances surrounding heretofore unexplored scales of one kind or another. Also, they have doctorate level electrical engineers working on the problems. — Wesley 2 mins ago

Michael Hampton

I see.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton +1

good afternoon gents

Wesley

@Magellan Is the lady nearby or can I be my normal self? =P

Magellan

18:58

@Wesley Ha. You needn't worry about that. She finds you guys hilarious, in a puppy-ish kind of way. She is nearly 50, after all.

Cole

and she's thinks I'm cute

God, Scientology is frightening

Magellan

19:26

@Cole Pretty much. Tough to me to tell the difference between scientologists and mentally-ill people.

@RyJones Good afternoon, sir.

Ry Jones

@Magellan good afternoon to you, sir. hope your day is going well

Magellan

@RyJones Indeed. Nice quiet Saturday in the ghetto.

Ry Jones

I hear Elvis every time you say that

►

anyway... plans for the weekend, beyond haircut?

Magellan

@RyJones Not much. And I got the hairs ALL cut off. Freezing my ass off now though.

Ry Jones

wow. what you put up with!

Wesley

19:37

@Magellan Gonna watch the Ducks / Huskies game?

GO DUUUUUUUUUCCKKKKSSSS!!!

Magellan

@Wesley Nah. I don't much go in for football unless it's snowing.

Wesley

You too @RyJones

@Magellan Cue ball?

Ry Jones

@Wesley thanks for the reminder - I'll not take the 520 bridge into town today

ESPN GameDay is in town, and traffic was AFU last night

Wesley

@RyJones Gonna mess of people.

Magellan

@Wesley Not quite. 2" up on top, shorter on the sides. Considering that it was 8-9" before, well, it's feels decidedly odd.

@RyJones Ugh. Glad we stayed in and entertained the neighbors. I hate dealing with out-of-towners.

Wesley

19:39

@Magellan Ah, gotcha, so kinda like mine? fitocracy.com/profile/Nonapeptide/?feed

@Magellan Said like a true adopted washingtonian. =P

Magellan

@Wesley that's not public, yo.

Wesley

@Magellan WEEEEEIRD

Magellan

@Wesley Pfft. i learned to drive in NY.

Wesley

And yes that's a PowerShell T-shirt I'm wearing. =(

Magellan

Triple the hair-length all-round.

Wesley

19:40

Ohhh, okay.

Magellan

I used to get a #1 buzzcut way back when.

So gents, have a Dilemma. Lenovo laptop or Mac?

what say you, @RyJones?

Ry Jones

@Magellan Right now I have only macs and a surface. I really, really like my Air, but the powerbook retina is super nice.

depends on how you'll use it.

I mean, OS X is freebsd under the covers.

Wesley

@Magellan Hmm... I've had my grubby hands on them all at one time or another. I think I'm locked on Macs since my Air a year ago. I like the constructions, the OS is solid, and it's overall a nice experience if not a tad bit expensive and I wish the warranty could go to five years.

@RyJones 13" or 11"?

Ry Jones

@Wesley 13

Wesley

@RyJones kewl

Mine is 11"

4

Magellan

19:44

Yeah, the only pisser is the keyboard mapping differences going back & forth between Macs and the PCs at the house.

Ry Jones

I wanted just a little more real estate, and the 13" is so light

Wesley

I'm toying with getting a 13" MBP Retina next year.

@Magellan Yeah, that's a PITA.

Ry Jones

I keep trying to buy a retina mbp, then I go to the apple store and pick one up and decide not to

@Magellan you can change the mappings if you like. I haven't done it, but I have been severely tempted just so I can map windows-L to lock screen on the macs

Magellan

@RyJones Hmm. I may just do that. I've been told there's an app to flip the Ctl and Alt key functions to resemble PCs. I won't be doing any IT Support of the hardware, so won't be using anyone else's PCs much to have to deal with the base mapping.

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