The Comms Room

Wesley

00:03

@ewwhite Yeah uh-huh. =P

ewwhite

so I guess I'll pay @MDMarra

Wesley

@ewwhite Seriously, don't make @MDMarra mad. People disappear when he gets mad.

When @MDMarra talks about tombstoning records, the records he's talking about are your family.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

00:19

@Magellan il fornaio was good. @voretaq7 would like it too. the waiter is cute and rather obviously into dudes :)

Ryan Ries

00:32

Dat feel when you've shut your WINS servers off on three continents...

Michael Hampton

@RyanRies Well done, time to drink!

Ryan Ries

@MichaelHampton I'm so far ahead of you

Michael Hampton

@RyanRies True. I haven't even started drinking yet!

Ryan Ries

I kinda want faster storage for my home lab

RDMA via RoCE is a little pricey for my home lab though. :P

Magellan

00:50

@DennisKaarsemaker Excellent! There's lots of awesome little places all around that area. If you're looking for a really nice dinner to top off a great evening, I also recommend the Pink Door. You'll need a reservation.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

That name sounds dodgy :)

Or is tat just my rotten mind?

mad props to that cop

Ryan Ries

@DennisKaarsemaker Pretty slow on drawing his weapon... his ninja drop kick really made him vulnerable for several seconds there.

Says the fat neck-beard on the internet...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I think the windhield-in-the-face was enough of a stun for the driver...

Ryan Ries

Wasn't enough of a stun for him to politely put his car in park however...

Just kidding... I'm just being a smartass. I blame chronic boredom.

@DennisKaarsemaker Do you speak German, or Dutch, of Flemish, or all three? I'm slowly trying to learn German.

Falcon Momot

01:10

acrobat cop.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@RyanRies I speak dutch, can understand flemish and speak it if I try. And I speak german, but not very good.

Ryan Ries

I have some co-workers in Amsterdam and they are very proud and adamant that they speak Flemish, and will correct you if you say Dutch. :)

jscott

Then who are the the Dutch? youtube.com/watch?v=-csGDoSSZyc

Ryan Ries

hehehehe

Magellan

01:41

@DennisKaarsemaker Yes, just your rotten mind. Been hanging out here way too much.

MikeyB

@pauska aptitude is an add-on, not in base install. apt-get is canon.

@Magellan KVM on Ubuntu actually seems to be the platform of choice for a lot of big shops. If you're on 12.04 LTS, make sure you get the updated KVM packages.

And by "a lot" I mean at least one big telecom shop and a big credit processing shop.

Wesley

01:57

@MikeyB Why isn't there much 12.10 Server out there?

Ubuntu 12.04 has such ooooold packages.

MikeyB

@Wesley Not an LTS release.

Wesley

There's stable, and then there's dangerously geriatric.

@MikeyB Hnng. Right.

MikeyB

@Wesley The thing to do is keep the older system packages, and then if you need something newer, just add the repo. Running KVM? Put on the newer KVM packages. Need newer ruby/nginx/redis? Add them on.

Wesley

@MikeyB Does your shop have a dedicated sales team?

WTF is with Mathematics and flags lately.

Magellan

@MikeyB Might be time to take a look then. Of course, the place I'm closest to getting a position at is a RHEL shop, so ditching my CentOS VM Host machine and rebuilding might be premature.

MikeyB

01:59

@Wesley The owner and one sales guy who focuses mainly on HPC.

Wesley

@MikeyB Interesting. Seems like you're place is doing well.

Magellan

@MikeyB Are you using private copies of the repo's or your own?

MikeyB

@Wesley Yeah we're doing pretty well. We're kind of transitioning to a managed services model for our SMB shops that we support.

@Magellan public repos.

Magellan

@MikeyB Not a huge fan of that. Run into version incompatibility problems on a regular if not horribly frequent basis.

Wesley

What the fucking fuck with the flags.

Magellan

02:03

@MikeyB Products whose install instructions involve a git clone straight from a github repo give me hives.

Wesley

I'm glad I'm not a mod, because I'd pretend this was IRC, ride in like a netsplit and ban the fuck out of everyone.

+v bitches

MikeyB

deb ppa.launchpad.net/jacob/virtualisation/ubuntu precise main
deb-src ppa.launchpad.net/jacob/virtualisation/ubuntu precise main

Wesley

@MikeyB Up next - When pasting goes bad!!

MikeyB

@Wesley forgot which clipboard I put that into :D

@Magellan Not like we auto-update all the packages. virtualization at ND is on RHEV anyways, not Ubuntu. And for the shops I mentioned doing kvm on ubuntu, you bet your wedding tackle they're doing private repos. Plus the hosts are on completely isolated networks anyways.

@Magellan When they say 'just use HEAD' and don't have unit tests, then you worry.

Magellan

@MikeyB Unit tests? Ha!

MikeyB

02:08

@Magellan What about services where they use javascript to uppercase your username and password before submitting?

Magellan

@MikeyB Uppercase the password? That's as stupid as the services that allow > 16 chars to creation but truncate to 16 at the login screen.

Wesley

@Magellan glances at Microsoft

MikeyB

@Magellan ca-new.ingrammicro.com

Magellan

@Wesley And Wordpress.com, which is who Gravatar OpenIDs their auth through.

Wesley

@Magellan Douchenozzles.

Magellan

02:11

@Wesley Yep. Anything I end up building is going to do OpenID through FB and Google if at all possible. That gets better than 95% of the internet, I'm sure.

@MikeyB And to be perfectly honest, Ubuntu's implementation of KVM/Libvirtd can't suck much more than CentOS's. For some reason they decided to build a mini-OS suite inside Libvirt instead of building on the existing systems tools.

MikeyB

@Magellan Centos did?

I have to admit, I've drunk the Ubuntu kool-aid. It's like Debian, but less pain in the ass.

Michael Hampton

Sorry, I still can't stand Ubuntu. And I'm thinking about doing my own Linux distribution (again).

Magellan

@MichaelHampton Fine, as long as you agree that dnsmasq is an abomination.

Michael Hampton

@Magellan It seems all right for the purpose it's being used for.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton The purpose of slinging crap all over your system?

Michael Hampton

02:20

Throwing a full-blown copy of BIND onto a hypervisor would be an abomination...

@Magellan Now that's not supposed to happen.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton DNSMasq with libvirtd services DHCP requests, DNS queries, sets up virtual interfaces, handles routing entries, and creating iptables entries.

I think they've exceeded the limits of good taste when it comes to tools doing more than one thing.

Michael Hampton

@Magellan Are you sure? I know it does DHCP and DNS, didn't know anything about it munging iptables or the routing tables.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton Pisses me off that I'm going to have to go in and do surgery on libvirtd just so that I can do dynamic DNS update.

@MichaelHampton And yeah, I run BIND on my hypervisor. But that's because it's the only machine I have for that kind of thing.

Tempted to rip out the NAT subnets entirely and just run bridged.

Michael Hampton

@Magellan Um, I run that in a VM.... :)

And for the love of gawd, NAT subnets?

Magellan

@MichaelHampton it's in the RHCSA curriculum.

This thing was originally meant to study for the RHCSA/E

Michael Hampton

02:25

@Magellan Yeah, I know, you can do it...that doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton Oh, I wouldn't in production. Of course, I don't think I'd run KVM in production either unless I had a whole bunch of machines to work with.

ok. The Lady is home from her walk. Time for me to do some dishes....

Michael Hampton

Yeah, you need a little more ... infrastructure to run KVM in production.

ewwhite

KVM.... hmmph.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite It's good enough for IBM!

ewwhite

I guess I have one reasonably big KVM install here.

a mobile advertising platform

Michael Hampton

02:35

And HP, come to think of it...

ewwhite

aside from that, I don't hear about KVM much

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite You're totally immersed in VMware. I'm surprised you hear about anything else!

ewwhite

No really... I don't hear about KVM HERE...

or on the twitterz

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite You surely hear about the stuff built on KVM.

ewwhite

or on mailing lists.

well, public cloud offerings that may use KVM

but in practical use, not really

Magellan

02:42

@MichaelHampton And for Google. But again, they have hundreds of people around to write tools to deal with stuff that breaks.

Michael Hampton

What do you do when VMware's product breaks, then?

Magellan

IMHO, KVM scales up well if you have a pile of people around. What it doesn't do is scale down.

ewwhite

And definitely not in the context of small business X needs a 4-host virtualization cluster... hmmm, let's get KVM

Remember, we're a big RHEL partner... they don't even bother pushing RHEV.

Michael Hampton

Hell, for four hosts I'd probably use VMware myself. For 400... I'm probably going to break out OpenStack.

@ewwhite No, they don't push RHEV because they're getting rid of it and replacing it with OpenStack in 6.5.

ewwhite

but again, that's service-provider range.

Magellan

02:44

@MichaelHampton True that. I do like the look of DevStack. If I had even one more machine on my HouseNet, I'd totally go for it.

Wesley

@Magellan What are you building again?

Michael Hampton

Would you like to know how well Hyper-V runs on my $300 netbook?

ewwhite

BTW, are users stupid?

**ALPINE 2.02(1266) MESSAGE INDEX Folder: INBOX Message 128 of 20,882

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Yes, users are stupid.

Magellan

@Wesley Virtualizing the house stuff and a host for building out dev environments for RubyThing

Wesley

02:46

@Magellan Gotcha

Magellan

I do like the fact that devStack can deal with AMIs.

ewwhite

Using KVM?

MikeyB

@ewwhite What's wrong with that?

ewwhite

@MikeyB I got it down from 36,500...

This user seems to be the type to CC herself on every message.

MikeyB

@ewwhite OK yeah, people are dumb. Users who CC; themselves drives me nuts

ewwhite

02:48

it's a mistrust of the email system that she's currently breaking...

or something like that.

Michael Hampton

OpenStack will also manage vSphere and Hyper-V hypervisors.

ewwhite

right

Openstack is still worth a look

Michael Hampton

Anything from ESXi 4.1 up is supported.

ewwhite

We made the mistake of both Cloudstack and vCloud Director

Another one...

ALPINE 2.02(1266) MESSAGE INDEX Folder: INBOX Message 44,689 of 44,690 NEW

Danila Ladner

@ewwhite when people cc themselves i think they do not trust their brains.

ewwhite

03:01

@DanilaLadner I see older people do it

or people who have eff-up email habits.

I once had a user with 6,500 subfolders in her Inbox...

22

Q: Email hoarder intervention and education - (Exchange environment)

Throughout my career, I've encountered quite a few users who were email hoarders... I'm managing a 100-user environment where users previously had 100mb quotas and a basic Cyrus IMAP/Postfix solution. That led to lots of locally-stored mail and the related problems with data-retention and lost m...

Michael Hampton

Are they not aware of the Sent folder?

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton seemingly no... the people I know who CC themselves do it in order to file the message into a subject or recipient-based subfolder.

"file this into all mail sent to @mdmarra"

or all correspondence with @DanilaLadner

which is kind of a form of manually threading your conversations.

but soooo wrong.

Michael Hampton

Email clients suck at handling these, to begin with.

It's been years since Gmail came out and nobody else has managed to thread email conversations?

ewwhite

It's true... I use a mac and have Spotlight.

Outlook has threading... as well as the web access

but may not be intuitive?

I don't use it.

(mainly because I know how to search for mail)

Michael Hampton

It's Microsoft Office, of course it's not intuitive.

ewwhite

03:08

:(

I know... I'll fire up Eudora

Journeyman Geek

o0

ewwhite

03:40

Packing up a pair of fusion-io cards in a pelican case for a trip tomorrow.

Journeyman Geek

@ewwhite: real eudora or the thunderbird one?

ewwhite

REAL Eudora!

Wesley

03:58

"So I've got an email server running on an alternate port to get around my ISP's restrictions... but I can't get any email! It's port 995 - maybe things are blocked?"
One nmap later:
995/tcp open pop3s

Dude.

SMTP sends/receives, pop3 retrieves. This is not hard to understand.

Falcon Momot

why use pop3 at all?

Wesley

@FalconMomot Because IMAP can be slow as frick depending on your client implementation.

IMAP on my iPhone isn't solidly implemented.

Some days I can manipulate messages between folders, other days I can't.

I dungeddit.

Could be worse - could be Android's implementation! Could be worse than that... could be BlackBerry.

And then there's Windows Phone... the fourth ring of despair.

So pretty much smart phones suck.

It's just determining how big of a blood blister you want and where.

Journeyman Geek

heh

not had any issues with thunderbird and gmail's imap

ewwhite

pop3 :(

Falcon Momot

I find android works fine with IMAP

Journeyman Geek

04:38

(that said, my dad has a 4gb mail folder. Mirrored on gmail.)

Wesley

freiheit

05:06

Wesley

@freiheit I hate that too.

Falcon Momot

I hate the front page.

ewwhite

:(

ewwhite

05:45

I'm on a work computer where I don't have access to PowerCLI. I tried installing, but am hitting set-executionpolicy issues. Shame that this isn't as easy on the Linux side. — ewwhite 40 secs ago

Me, the sysadmin, needing to get access from a sysadmin...

Wesley

06:35

@ewwhite Better call Saul!!

Miles Erickson

08:40

@Wesley Hey. You're great at screencasting, especially for a cat.

MDMarra

12:44

@ewwhite you can do an exchange rule "header contains: mdmarra" and don't have to do stupid shit like CC yourself if you want to stay organized

@ewwhite "I'm hitting set-executionpolicy issues" is like saying "I'm hitting chmod issues" you sound like a n00b :)

Michael Hampton

Didn't work. The install log contains "installing this package" something like that. That means incomplete only. Similarly the other log is also incomplete. I want the install log from the beginning including the anaconda log. — user285825 8 hours ago

What is this nutjob up to?

MDMarra

I think he's saying he wants a single verbose log starting with everything anaconda does.

Michael Hampton

I think he's smoking crack.

MDMarra

iOS7 beta 6 is buggy as Fuck for iPad. They'd better not be releasing this at the same time as the iPhone version in a few days

dawud

13:07

@DennisKaarsemaker I'm blantanly stealing this for an InfoSec Reactions submission.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@dawud heh. "Brute force attack"

dawud

@DennisKaarsemaker The last somersault needs to be honored, somehow :)

Michael Hampton

GOOGLE CHROME
Y U DIVIDE BY ZERO

Dennis Kaarsemaker

BECAUSE NSA

dawud

13:23

#Grumpycat joined forced at Freedom No Fear protest event in Berlin. #NSA killed the internet! http://t.co/kVKAsUxEl6

Tweeted by anked on September 7, 2013 at 11:49 AM

check that pic

GioMac

@ewwhite journalists do this the most. I'm tired of writing rules for every mailing list they subscribe. Mine are getting ca. 600 emails/day, each! But subfolders? They don't even know for what do they exist :D

ewwhite

13:50

@mdmarra. No local admin.

@MDMarra And we have PCI/HIPPA security restrictions... so this is not like it's my local PC.

@MDMarra That doesn't scale.

@GioMac Subfolders can be hard to manage if they're not maintained.

ewwhite

14:18

Hmmm, it seems like PowerShell could be very handy.

MDMarra

@ewwhite sure it does. I organize my mail by customer where message header contains @customer.com

it gets all mail to and from them

ewwhite

Spotlight.

Oh, you probably don't use Outlook.

MDMarra

It's much easier to search a subfolder than search a whole mailbox

and I use OUTLOOK 2013

woah, autocorrect thinks outlook is all caps apparently

ewwhite

On the Mac.

MDMarra

Btw the command you're looking for is set-executionpolicy remotesigned which is the default in Windoes 8/2012 and can be set via GPO for your whole organization so that PowerShell is useful :)

Oh, I don't do work email on my Mac.

ewwhite

14:24

It's disabled organization-wide.

or was.

MDMarra

I use OWA if I'm in a pinch

The whole, you know, work/life balance thing

ewwhite

Invalid if you get your mail on a mobile device.

MDMarra

I leave my phone in the bedroom when I'm home

gotta get ready to go to the phillies game though. 4th row field level seats!

ewwhite

Anyway... on the plane to San Francisco. Pelican case full o' Fusion-io.

MDMarra

see ya

ewwhite

14:26

I like that stadium :(

Danila Ladner

14:48

i like that stadium too, also flyers rink is cool as well.

MDMarra

@ewwhite you like that stadium because it has a tony Luke's in it

Danila Ladner

i general i think atmosphere and philadelphia fans are great.

MDMarra

I'm a boston fan, but living in Philly, if I want to see a game, my options are limited :)

Danila Ladner

I've never been to Boston

ewwhite

15:17

@MDMarra that's exactly why

freiheit

16:46

@ewwhite Don't forget to escape into some country hills with a bicycle... ;)

ewwhite

@freiheit I wish I could.

I've never ridden in the bay area.

freiheit

@ewwhite Riding in SF itself isn't much fun. I guess there's Golden Gate Park, but generally all urban and stoplighty and whatnot... I haven't done the east bay, but I hear there's some good stuff there. Near the south bay, too. Definitely good stuff just north of the golden gate bridge.

ewwhite

Luckily, this is a short trip. I'll be back on the bike by Tuesday.

dawud

Happy birthday @MDMarra

Iain

17:04

@freiheit, @ewwhite, @ward, @Wesley (get a bike) strava.com/activities/80999398 My strava app screwed u - I managed 101 miles today

freiheit

@Iain Nice! I only managed less than 20, because the guy I was riding with was starting to have his knee bug him. Doesn't bode well for that metric in under a week...

ewwhite

@freiheit Think of it as your taper before the big event...

freiheit

@ewwhite It was supposed to be a 35 mile taper. I mean it doesn't bode well for him on that metric. His first. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine.

Iain

@freiheit 100Km ?

ewwhite

yep

Metric century.

freiheit

17:12

@Iain Yeah. I've done plenty of 100Km (or close enough) rides, but nothing really longer. Think I'm gonna try to work my way up to 100mi before my 40th birthday next summer.

Iain

@freiheit First one I've done this year. I think my longest was 85 before that but a missed turn put an extra 8 on today to it was only 6 extra when I got home so I just carried on

freiheit

@Iain You're also doing your sub-century rides a lot faster than I do rides that length.

ewwhite

In both of your cases, has cycling helped with your fitness?

noticeably?

freiheit

@ewwhite Absolutely. Especially 18-ish months ago when I decided I'd be doing that 5 day ride (that happened a year ago). But even before that.

ewwhite

I managed to lose 20 pounds this summer riding.

just by keeping intensity up, Strava and committing to a few days a week.

Iain

17:20

@ewwhite I lost 5 today cycling

ewwhite

water weight :)

keeping it off... a hard ride will leave me about 7 pounds lighter...

Iain

@ewwhite I'm 42lb lighter than I was at Christmas

ewwhite

wow.

freiheit

I lost 15-20 pounds last year when i was training. Went from size 40 (42 at peak weight) waist to 36, which is probably a better measurement than straight weight. Haven't really had much weight change since...

Iain

@ewwhite Yeah I'm much fitter than I was, I need to pick up swimming

freiheit

17:23

@Iain Go from riding centuries to doing an iron man?

ewwhite

@Iain I say hit the gym...

Iain

@freiheit My shape is much improved; no bay window any more

@freiheit I don't run, I get shin splints

Ryan Ries

The only way to stop getting shin splints is to keep running until your muscles get stronger :)

freiheit

@RyanRies As in, runs short enough that shin splints don't happen, and slowly work up?

Maybe I should try to train up for this ride next october: ridewithgps.com/routes/733774/embed

Ryan Ries

18:01

►

Iain

18:19

@RyanRies Not running works for me ;)

Falcon Momot

19:03

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A: .htaccess file hacked, how to prevent this in future?

I had a serious problem with someone hacking into my .htaccess file and my only solution was to make the file unhackable. First, I cleaned up the .htaccess file and any PHP files of all hacks. Then I changed the file permissions to 444 (644 still allows access) on the .htaccess file. Then I used ...

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Sysadmin1138 Expounds

20:50

SysAdmin1138 Expounds: Why I still have a land-line

posted on September 08, 2013 by SysAdmin1138

There are reasons. Inertia. I've always had one, so the habit is there. Totally free conference calling. When parents call, just pick up the extension. No need to burn double minutes, no mucking around with speaker-phone. Great! It gives us...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

21:16

Michael Hampton

21:26

-1

Q: Is my website vulnerable to attacks?

I have used Acunetix to scan for vulnerabilities in my website and I think I got it all right.. Can someone please check for vulnerabilities in my website (www.codecaged.com), I will be very happy :) Thanks in advanced, Din.

security website

Dan

Yes, because you're too stupid

pauska

@Wesley are you from Scottsdale?

Dan

I'm not sure if this is off-topic, but it certainly doesn't seem to fall within the scope of serverfault. You don't have a specific question that can be answered without context which makes any answers ephemeral; if your site changes or goes away, this question and its answers become meaningless. Please try to rephrase your question to be specific. — Andrew Domaszek 2 mins ago

I think we're going to like this guy

Iain

@Dan yeah, though not within scope is clearly off topic

Dan

He's new - I'm sure he'll become just as blunt as everyone else in time

By the way, @Iain - remember that idiotic 10 mile Paratrooper race thing I entered at the start of the year?

Iain

21:35

@Dan yes, was that today ?

Dan

I was even more stupid and turned up. Managed it in 2 hours, 4 minutes. It was, without a shadow of doubt, the hardest thing I've ever done. I wish I could describe a couple of the hills but I don't think you'd believe me

And then waist deep water at the 8 mile mark

Iain

Well done, now do you joints a favour and get a bike :)

Dan

Well, I would, but they give you a special award if you complete all 3 events in a year. So, next year...

I'm also going to check off a half marathon if I can next year

Iain

@Dan today I cycled with a couple who have run 24 marathons each

Dan

@Iain Jesus! I've got no plans to hit a marathon anytime soon - the time required to train scares me alone

Iain

21:41

yeah - they are epicly fit

Dan

Yeah, I couldn't fathom being out that long. Just the thought of it - maybe I'll do one in a few years, but it's not something on my 'list'

Right, bed time! Catch you in the morning

Mark Henderson

@Sysadmin1138Expounds Wow, welcome to 2002. I haven't had a land-line phone in my own name, ever. I've had a VoIP number for a few years but got rid of that too

Why pay an incumbant telco $30/month just for keeping a copper line running to my house powered with electricity?

ewwhite

Time for surgery... (Evil laughter) #sysadmin #fusionio #zfs #ProLiant #hp http://t.co/8MmTiWWPkP

Tweeted by ewwhite910 on September 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Ryan Ries

Never had a land line either, since I moved out of my parent's house after graduating high school

@ewwhite I see you talking about these Fusion IO cards all the time in here... I'm curious, what is it that you love so much about them?

Iain

speed

Michael Hampton

21:54

I haven't had a landline since ... 2001

ewwhite

Cost.

They're cheaper than my preferred SSD solution.

Ryan Ries

Ah, I see

ewwhite

by coincidence

plus I bought a bunch

Michael Hampton

Didn't you get them for pennies on the dollar?

ewwhite

these are $19k cards... and I got them for $5k

3.3GHz E5-2643 CPUs going in...

I feel like a total hardware geek! Take that, CLOUD!!

Mark Henderson

22:05

@ewwhite Whose dick did you have to suck for that deal?

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson HP was prepared to sell them to my employer for $9k. I brokered a deal, but my team went another direction.

So HP was like... we're going to destroy these cards...

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite I want FusionIO cards for $5k :( If they RRP for 19k in the US they'll probably be $25k by the time they get here

ewwhite

and I negotiated down to that price.

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Why on earth would HP destroy them?

Ryan Ries

Damn

ewwhite

22:07

@MarkHenderson because there's a threshold at which it's not worth discounting them any more.

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Surely they would just hold onto them until someone else wanted them

Better to sell then 6 months later at a loss than destroy them and get nothing for them? Surely?

ewwhite

They have to move the inventory every so often... accounting reasons,

that's why I've had a good line on liquidated HP product this whole time

keeps people like me happy, keeps their partners like CDW happy...

and keeps the gear out there to compete with Dell

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Interesting. And by "Destroy" I assume they mean "I will take this home, wait 2 months then sell it under my wifes eBay account"

ewwhite

Sometimes, it gets crushed..

sometimes it ends up in a back channel through eBay...with no warranty

these cards were going to get scrapped.

Mark Henderson

That's so sad :(

Makes me want to cry

It's like murdering puppies. Sweet, silicone puppies.

Wesley

22:10

@MarkHenderson :'(

Mark Henderson

"No sir, please, don't put me in the crusher! I'm adorable! Look at my puppy dog eyes! Noo...... assdfewb2uioybiefhbadsfmbdjhwebfwefewfwefnbasjk,df"

@Wesley Let's have a moments silence for all the perfectly good hardware that has been lost to the crushers

Wesley

@MarkHenderson It's okay once they get older though. I've had hardware beating parties to smash up old modems.

Some day we'll look at fusion IO cards and think "Wow, people paid money for this shit?"

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Oh sure, once they're 12 months old they're basically due for the retirement home. Euthanasia!

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I want to play with a Fusion IO card. How big of a deal is it compared to a RAID 10 pair of SSDs though?

I should stop being lazy and go compare iops

Mark Henderson

@Wesley Not really sure. One of our clients has 8 SSD's in RAID0 that does 3.5GB/sec so really that's probably enough :P

Wesley

22:15

@MarkHenderson Wow, 3.5GB/sec, so it's not limited by the hardware, it's limited by their use of it?

Meaning, it could peg out 6GB/sec if it had to, but they just don't use it that hard?

Mark Henderson

@Wesley I ran Atto Disk Benchmark on it

IRL it is lucky to break 10MB/sec

But they had a budget and figured "Why not"

Wesley

@MarkHenderson wat

Oh, the app? Right.

Mark Henderson

This guy is a fucking hardware nerd.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Where are these people that have budgets to throw around. Introduce me.

Mark Henderson

Even though he doesn't need it, he gets as horny over hardware as @ewwhite does

Wesley

22:17

@MarkHenderson So you could install something on it on the side and maybe lease out a few VPSs and no one would even know? =P

Mark Henderson

@Wesley We didn't make any money off that deal. This guy buys his own hardware through one of his ex-employees that went to work at Dell and is now the APAC Sales channel partner

And we just come in when he gets in over his head

@Wesley Well it's only about 900GB of usable space, but yes

Easily

Wesley

@MilesErickson Thank you. What did you see? I've done a number.

@pauska I live in Phoenix/Scottsdale, yes. Not from here, mind you. I'm from Oregon GO DUCKS.

Ryan Ries

PCIe 3.0 has about 985MB/s per lane... so a 16x card... 15760MB/s ?

Mark Henderson

3GB/sec sorry, not 3.5

That was also running from inside a VM attached to a VMDK so there is likely to be a bit of overhead there

Wesley

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Mark Henderson

22:20

@Wesley This needs to exist

Bags not being the one to test a full installation though

Ryan Ries

Should be a breeze in my 16-way floppy array

let me play you the song of my people

Mark Henderson

wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/…

pauska

@Wesley ah.. just watching the womens final at us open, azarenka lives in scottsdale

Wesley

@pauska I'll say hello for you.

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson It doesn't get me that wet...

Wesley

22:45

@ewwhite What gets you wetter: bikes or servers?

And mathematics is at it again.

@MarkHenderson Can you go ban everyone in that room?

Mark Henderson

in Mathematics, 29 secs ago, by Mark Henderson

Please, people, just put whoever it is thats pissing you off onto ignore and pretend they don't exist

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Then ban them.

Mark Henderson

@Wesley I want to ban the people raising the flags

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Are there no mods there?

Mark Henderson

Grow a thicker skin people

This is the internet

@Wesley No idea

Wesley

22:48

Go off a cliff screaming, people.

Mark Henderson

I have a strong dislike of mathematicians by default though

So that doesn't help

Take, for example this answer:

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A: Is there a bijective continuous function $f: \Bbb R \to \Bbb R$ whose inverse $f^{-1}$ is not continuous?

No. Hint: A bijective continuous function on $\mathbb{R}$ must be monotonic.

I do not understand it. Thus I am scared of it. Thus I am scared of the people who wrote it and do understand it

Thus I have an inexplicable dislike towards people of a certain intellectual disposition

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