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12:14 AM
"You can accept your answer in two days." You can suck it, StackExchange.
Go upvote my shame. =( serverfault.com/a/516107/9770
 
New HP servers delivered
People need to ask more questions.
I ask a LOT!!
 
@ewwhite Why is NFS on CentOS 5.4 so shitty :(
 
@JoelESalas I dunno. Old.
what doesn't work for you?
 
@ewwhite Lots of small files.
[root@server mysql]# nfsstat -m
/opt/netapp from 69.69.69.69:/vol/proddbbackup
Flags: rw,vers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,addr=69.69.69.69
 
12:41 AM
@JoelESalas You did it wrong!
 
1:02 AM
@Iain @WesleyDavid @ewwhite app.strava.com/activities/60587126
 
1:12 AM
@WesleyDavid I vote we speak like that to all posters in the future!
(I know it was to yourself, BTW)
 
@KevinSoviero We should talk like Womble and TomTom to everyone? OKAI!!!
 
@WesleyDavid What is this "Womble" you speak of?
Tomorrow is my last day of freedom! My first day back at a full time job is Monday.
 
@KevinSoviero woohoo!
 
@ewwhite More "NOOOOOOO!" than "woohoo!"
Anyway, I have to go curl up into a ball and cry about my upcoming enslavement... Ok, bye!
 
1:38 AM
@KevinSoviero Early member of SF, hasn't been around in a long time and still has top ten reputation. He's be 100k plus easily if he had stayed. He was known for being a bit stinging in his responses to people.
 
@WesleyDavid I probably passed him!
 
@ewwhite I think you did, but it took one year of him being gone for you to do it. =P
I fell way off the first page. =(
 
@WesleyDavid someone here probably pissed him off
This is interesting. My first automated builds here... I hadn't gotten familiar with the imaging system.
 
2:00 AM
Neat "bird" logo.
 
heh, yeah
 
@jscott that's funky
that's a little fun
 
Yeah, got one up, installing some stuff, going to try X.
 
Pretty much instant.
 
2:10 AM
Oh boy, only 25 minutes left!
 
Error: Could not resolve hostname null
The clock's ticking man!!!
 
2:33 AM
@ewwhite He moved from driving trains back to IT, and I think he got scolded a few too many times for his liking, yeah. He floats through questions once in a while, but hasn't been in chat in fo'ever.
@jscott Uhm... whu?
 
@WesleyDavid Don't know man, I just came across it. Does what it says on the tin. The page even has a nice little countdown timer. :)
 
@jscott I did...
@jscott This is going to get the hoo-ha abused out of it.
 
@WesleyDavid Why would someone do something like that?
 
3:11 AM
@WesleyDavid: thats only the second most disturbing thing I have seen today ;p
also, why do those guys look ever so vaguely familiar?
 
3:54 AM
@jscott Holy crap will that get abused
I can imagine the amount of spam being spewed out of AWS any moment.
 
@FalconMomot: then they get blacklisted and it becomes useless.
 
4:09 AM
Yes, the consequence being that AWS gets on RBLs.
useful, that.
 
4:21 AM
I think most blacklists have all of AWS covered and have for a long time.
 
5:00 AM
@voretaq7 Did you just drunk edit my post? I don't get it? =)
 
ugh, so many bad close votes in the review queue
 
@FalconMomot You've noticed that too?
 
it's causing me pain
because the questions are pretty bad too
 
I think some people must be thinking "I don't like the color of this person's avatar - VTC!"
 
kinda
I mean
the askers' n00b is showing
but that doesn't necessarily make their questions off topic
 
5:09 AM
@FalconMomot Exactly
 
people need to read the FAQ
 
@FalconMomot You mean /helpcenter. cries silently
 
also, if there was something worth answering, maybe someday I can get enough rep to stand for moderator :(
:)
yeah...
RTFM everywhere.
dude
I used to have a drill sergeant back when I was in the army
her catchphrase was of the form "<action> private whoever! <action> everywhere!"
I just want to scream at these people "You! RTFM! RTFM everywhere!" and make them do physical activity.
 
Manuals only hurt when I throw them at people. Otherwise they love you and want to be your friend.
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Wellll... back in the early nineties I had a Borland C Compiler manual that could hurt you if you didn't lift it with your legs.
That thing was brutal.
 
5:14 AM
Scarred me for life and scared me away from C.
 
the intel ISA manual set is rather large and heavy
but also it's broken up into 7 volumes, so its impact is somewhat reduced
 
Then I got into THINK Pascal. "I've made a huge mistake."
 
C is beautiful.
though lately I've been programming mainly in machine code.
no joke.
 
@FalconMomot Hardcore.
 
yeah
I got a job as a hacker
what do they task me with?
"improve our x86_64 on x86_64 analytic emulator"
 
5:17 AM
Throw you into the deep end and hope you swim?
 
nah
I don't find it that hard
it's bloody tedious
actually, come to think of it, every job I have enjoyed that I have ever had involved toss-into-the-deep-end training
when I was with hitachi ID you were allowed about 4 months of self-directed study on the major products, and if by then you couldn't handle pretty much any support call you got sacked.
(this being identity management software)
 
@FalconMomot Wow, sounds neat.
 
it was!
we got unlimited licenses for pretty much everything
I had my own dev environment of like 8 AD servers, domino, exchange, sharepoint, and some other stuff
and full source access to our products
so I was sitting there on the phone with someone from like... the world bank
with the application source open trying to figure out where something failed so we could get a patch out later that day
 
@WesleyDavid I find your blatant rep-whoring simultaneously disturbing and strangely arousing...
Upvote!!
 
@FalconMomot So why don't you work there anymore? Sounds like a dream. =)
@Ward I have no shame, in spite of my protests to the contrary.
 
5:25 AM
@wesleydavid because I got a 20k a year raise, unlimited work from home, stock options, and completely flexible work hours to go somewhere else and never have to answer a support call again :)
 
@FalconMomot Yeah, support sucks.
 
so now I get out of bed at noon, manually assemble bytecode and validate it in a debugger, disappear at random through the workday, and go to bed sometime around 0300.
but, I'd totally recommend hitachi ID to anyone hunting for work in calgary, montreal, or dallas... the type of people who answer questions here would be a pretty good fit there too.
oh, also, everyone who works there has unbridled contempt for ITIL, remedy, HPSM, clarify, etc., and all the internal systems are linux-based.
 
Calgary, eh? I've been looking for an excuse to visit.
Got a friend in Airdrie.
Never been there myself.
 
I like it here.
for some reason.
I think it'd be a nicer place if we had a game development shop in town though, like EA (vancouver) or popcap (seattle) or bioware (edmonton)
those things tend to attract awesome people :)
instead we have oilmen, and grossly overpaid RAD developers.
 
Calgary is a big city. Is it not big on tech-specific things? Not many web-centric startups? Not many software development houses?
 
5:37 AM
it's mostly big because of oil and gas, and most things are pretty focused on that
there are a couple cool things here
sourcefire comes to mind
I'm trying to think of anyone else who even has an office here, and I can't
lots of MSSPs though
 
Sourcefire is in Calgary? I had no idea!
 
they have an office here. I don't think it's the head office.
oh, coverity has a presence too
hitachi ID's head office is here, mostly because it was founded here as m-tech
but like
you could count on two hands the number of non-MSSP IT companies here.
 
@WesleyDavid ok, a 2-person phone game dev shop
at least it's something
 
@FalconMomot Start your own!
 
5:52 AM
I am actually
not games, though
 
6:15 AM
@WesleyDavid I fixed your spacing
 
6:56 AM
@voretaq7 can you fix his not-having-a-bike too?
 
7:38 AM
blech
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Q: finding kernel space programs

Kevin Parkerhow can we determine %sy process that is Consuming CPU. In the following case there is no netfilter and traffic is under 1 mbps.but still system process are taking too much cpu and cpu usage for niced process are also high.How can we determine the process consuming CPU from system level. top ...

I hope I'm right - I've always been a bit fuzzy on how that bit works.
 
morning
 
 
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8:53 AM
@FalconMomot I read that as 'Kerbal Space Program"
 
 
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10:11 AM
Grumble
what an offensive forum! — Mashal al-shboul 2 mins ago
 
I'm offended he thinks its a forum
 
11:00 AM
Smells like teenage spirit a Super User question:
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Q: Is it possible to access SSH server that is connected to a public WiFi network?

Aleksandr MakovI have a laptop which has SSH server set up. When laptop is connected to my home network — there's no problem, since I can setup port forwarding at the Router. The question, will I be able to make my laptop accept connections being connected to a public wifi network, which gives me only the ip ad...

 
11:24 AM
@Hennes: and a certain lack of understanding of public and private IP addresses.
 
It should be easy: Just use IP v6 :)
 
wondering if (retches a little), hamachi might be a solution
if he was smarter, reverse SSH would be another option
 
I wonder why he wants to connect to the laptop. Usually you lug a laptop around to connect to a server via SSH. Not the ssh into the machine in your lap. You use console access for that.
Or localhost (::1, 127.1, ...)
 
12:11 PM
@Hennes having a public IPv6 address != unfirewalled
 
I presume somebody using IPv6 would configure his or her firewall on the laptop accordingly.
 
who said it has anything to do with the local host's firewall
if you're deploying IPv6 to a network and leaving the firewall job down to the hosts themselves, you're Doing It Wrong.
although, something I like to do is define a /112 in the firewall that is completely open
so I can configure a host behind the firewall with an address in that range if I explicitly need it "open to the world" for something
 
12:26 PM
If you lug along a laptop and connect it to a public wifi network then getting a firewall in front of it gets interesting (well, except if you lug around a portable FW unit)
 
12:43 PM
@Chopper3 Do you play a lot of kerbal?
I just put a few sats in orbit and try to get a very efficient launcher.
Mostly with with as a launcher (cheapest I could build and not run out of power)
I even got into solar orbits with it using mom as a slingshot
I still need to figure out optimal launch parameters.
This is close to my best launch:
 
@Hennes no, son does though
 
I try to play things rather economical. No wasted mass on a launch
 
@Hennes he's a physics freak so like to get it all as right as possible, but then he pretty quickly hit a point when he started screaming that it's not THAT accurate physics-wise, so wrote to the creators explaining his issues - geek!
 
Heh.
The creators are quite aware that the physics are not quite right
Especially the heat sinks
 
@Hennes He's got a base on the moon and a bunch of landers (those took a lot of trial and error apparenrly)
 
12:55 PM
And air resistance seems to be in stages. Not just the indicator for it
Most of my real launches are prepared in a spreadsheet.
Lots of wikipedia browsing helped.
E.g. I made a note that the time it takes a planet to move around the sun increases as the 3/2 power of the size of the orbit.
Scripted orbital height/speed needs.
etc etc
 
 
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3:02 PM
How am I still working?!?
I woke up an hour ago and found myself typing commands into a random terminal window...
I have no clue which server I just rebooted!!
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Oh, and Happy Father's Day!
 
3:20 PM
@ewwhite You're like people who hit the C-A-D button on a KVM interface if there's nothing onscreen
 
@ewwhite When you get a phone call you'll know
 
@Olipro For many years, I disabled Ctrl-Alt-Delete in /etc/inittab because I would frequently get accidental reboots on my Linux systems from people who would make that mistake.
 
yeah, got someone who does that quite frequently
and they're a Windows admin
quelle surprise?
 
3:57 PM
Just intercept the Contr-alt-del call and add a task to shut down that admins workstation.
 
 
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5:53 PM
> Where do I find the my.cnf file!? In the documentation...
oh dear
 
@Iain indeed
 
Damnit @MDmarra I was typing out a detailed answer to that question when I see the little "A new answer has been added to this post" and of course it's you! Blast!
 
@RyanRies just post your answer even if it's substantially the same
 
6:15 PM
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Q: HaProxy for game servers, what's wrong with my configuration?

MatthewI host a website with a game client that uses TCP for connections. I am currently looking for a way to proxy my connections from one server to my origin server. I have tested Iptables forwarding and I have found that whilst it works HaProxy seems to perform better. The problem I'm facing is HaPro...

I'm hoping that gets an answer, I'm going to have the same issue
 
@RyanRies NAILED IT
Post it anyway
 
lol
 
there's enough rep to go around
btw, i left a comment on your lumberjack question
 
I saw... I will get back to you with an answer on that tomorrow - don't feel like getting on my work computer right now to look at it
 
i hear that
 
6:59 PM
This is how OCD I am - I log in to a machine as local Administrator. I join it to the domain. Then I log in again as domain\Administrator, and now I get a new profile named Administrator.Domain, because the machine already had a profile named Administrator on it. I then boot the machine off of a separate boot disk just so I can delete both profiles off the drive so that next time I log in to the machine as domain administrator, my profile name on that machine will be just Administrator. :P
 
7:23 PM
@RyanRies I used to spar a lot with people who told me that was necessary when I was deskside support.
 
Not necessary, just obsessive compulsive :)
 
@FalconMomot Senior admins KNOW ALL THE THINGS :)
 
Today was destroy-the-kitchen day
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Only a European would carry an axe to remodel a kitchen
 
my mother in law's kitchen now has a retro-industrial look. Aka all wood paneling removed, which uncovered 1970's red/green paint. All tiles and all kitchen cabinets removed, giving it an industrial look :)
 
7:29 PM
And yes even at 18 I know more about remodelling than you :P
 
@Jacob sadly the axe was barely used in the deculination
merely to demonstrate the point that I've been looking forward to this for years :)
the actual tools used aren't visible in this photo :)
How do hutts program computers? Jabbascript.
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7:49 PM
Thank god for VM snapshots
 
8:11 PM
@Iain - that guy's comment, you'll see which one, arghhhh
 
@DennisKaarsemaker when we had our kitchen remodelled a couple of years ago I sold the old one on ebay
 
@Iain this one was 30+ years old. Demolishing was the only option.
 
@Chopper3 nothing in my inbox
 
going to walk away from the keyboard now ;)
 
@Chopper3 probably a good idea :)
 
8:31 PM
busts into the room
HOW DO PEOPLE WORK WITH PHP
this is more frustrating than my ex
if anyone here knows php and can answer a question I would greatly appreciate it.
 
@RyanRies So, you don't disable the built-in administrator account?
Interesting
 
@mossy shoot
 
sigh I'll try to word this correctly.
I'm trying to print random values from an array. I understand that arrays are zero index, but what i don't understand is why you have to state `-1` -- like so

`$list = rand(0 ,count($members) -1);`
-1 scares me. i feel like it's going to exclude an item. and there's endless content online about`rand` -- not much is helping
 
8:50 PM
that has nothing to do with rand
if an array has 5 elements, count will return 5
 
Yeah, slightly over my head, lemme phone a friend
 
however
the elements go from 0 to 4
facepalm
 
nah its fine i see.
@Olipro Hm. ok thank you.
OH
Thanks man. makes perfect sense now.
 
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