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2:01 PM
@pauska prob has x64. x86. and ia64 in it
 
how are my precious snowflakes today?!
 
I'd be melting less if I could figure out why a (whole-file) rsync job is topping out at ~1Mbit/s when I can run an iperf alongside it between the same hosts at 20Mbit/s...
 
@MichaelHampton The SMC piece of crap we have for Comcrap doesn't support IPv6, DOCSIS 3, or what seems like any modern features... It's an ancient design.
 
@SmallClanger I had the same problem recently
turned out that compression is a default option in ssh these days and my raspberry pi's cpu can't handle
 
I remember the days when AtHome provided GI SurfBoard modems. The Cadillac of cable modems...
 
2:12 PM
rsync -e " ssh -o 'Compression no' " source destination:~/
that fixed it for me
but you're probably rsyncing to something with a cpu that's not made out of cardboard
 
@KennyRasschaert Yep. been there already. Actually running this job plaintext to an rsyncd at the other end to remove ssh from the equation entirely. Didn't seem to help.
 
ah
clever
you'd be dealing with the encryption overhead too
 
Also, correct on the CPUs. both ends are reasonably recent xeons, untroubled by much other traffic atm.
 
large collection of small files?
or reasonably large ones
iperf also doesn't take into account any disk I/O
 
@ChrisS Trade it in
You can always just swap it at your local comcast office
 
2:16 PM
Mostly large. No i/O or filesystem overhead. No diffing issues, either since this is a new copy.
 
I just did for a new modem/voice gateway/router/switch combo that does ipv6 and docsis3
 
@SmallClanger do you see the same speed when using scp?
 
scp actually scales better. I've just dug out wireshark to see if it's a TCP window scaling thing.
Not as good as iperf, but that's only to be expected.
 
@MDMarra If we ever get IPv6 around here, I'll get a SurfBoard... They threw the SMC one in free, we don't rent it... So it's hard to complain right now.
 
ah, got ya
 
2:19 PM
Ooh. Window scaling factor -1. That's not right.
 
@SmallClanger the plot thickens
 
Our office up north had a modem provided by Charter, we turned that thing in as it was dropping packets like a sieve.
 
@SmallClanger possibly related to this? serverfault.com/a/146384/49297
nah you're using rsyncd
 
@MDMarra, did you say you use KIX? We use it for mapping our printers but one machine is throwing errors. All other machines it runs on works as expected.
 
@KennyRasschaert Nah, I grok the diffing mechanism (always use --whole-file unless there's an rsync process at the other end) and in this case, there's no remote files, yet.
rsync doesn't have any mechanism for tuning the TCP window, so I don't see why its TCP connection should be handled differently to iperf's. But it fits. the default 65k Window would put the BDP at ~2Mbit/s which is what the bigger files plateau out at.
 
2:26 PM
@tombull89 We use it here but I've done everything in my power to get rid of it
it's a fetid piece of shit and should die
HTH
 
@MDMarra Pretty much.
 
:)
 
it is, however, more reliable than deploying printers through GPO, we find.
 
I "fixed" that, btw
We have a logon script that runs an extra gpupdate for the user..
suddenly every GPO with GPP works like magic..
 
@pauska Interesting, I'll have a go at that
 
2:33 PM
Jesus Christ, provisioning an IPAM server sure is a pain in the ass.
 
morning
 
Rex
@HopelessN00b what are you looking to use for IPAM?
 
@SmallClanger interesting problem, good luck with it
cya later guys
 
@Rex Oddly enough, IP address management.
 
Rex
@HopelessN00b The infoblox one?
 
2:41 PM
@Rex Uh, no. MS Server 2012 IPAM role/feature
 
Rex
@HopelessN00b ahh.. i haven't messed with 2012 enough yet to get to the IPAM role
 
@HopelessN00b It's on my TODO list, so please share your troubles
 
Can someone explain the limited to 2 OSE license model microsoft has on standard products?
i can't seem to figure out what exactly it means by that
 
@pauska GPO-based provisioning is far from the auto-magic you'd think it should it be... at least as far as I've experienced so far. Trying to find something less useless than the help files to read to explain why the fuck everything's recomending I "Unblock IPAM Access."
 
@Patrick Meanwhile, most server products require a license for each running instance of the server software you run on a server—whether in a physical or virtual operating system environment (OSE). However, some products provide broader use rights. For example, a Windows Server 2012 Standard edition operating system license permits a running instance in up to two virtual operating system environments, plus one host instance on the physical device at a time on the licensed server.
 
2:47 PM
that last sentence is partially true
if you run two OSE on a single standard license then the physical host can only run to solely serve the OSE's
(as in management+hypervisor ONLY. No IIS and so on)
 
So you can run the software on a physical server, and two virtual machine that run on that physical system.
 
@okay, so it only has to do with the OS running on the server when it says OSE, i just wasn't sure if it meant, i can only has 2 OS types being managed on my envirnment.
 
@Patrick You think it means you're only allowed to run two versions on windows? Say, XP, and 7, and it'll whine if you put 8 on?
 
@HopelessN00b I haven't even glimpsed at the product, didn't know that you deployed it via GPO.. what does it do, specifically? Is it an agent of some sorts?
 
@pauska It's because "Replace" in a lot of cases doesn't work the way you think it does
Do you have a lot of replaces?
 
2:50 PM
@tombull89 i was looking at it from the SCCM viewpoint that maybe if it saw another OS type that it would be against the License, I didn't think it worked this way, but just wanted to make sure.
 
@pauska You don't have to use a GPO. Either GPO or manual provisioning. The GPO provisioning [allegedly] allows you to run a PS command to create your GPOs so the IPAM server can automagically get the info from the DNS, DHCP, AD and NPS servers without having to manually edit a shit-tonne of group memberships, create file shares, etc.
 
@Patrick Nah, that's nuts. MS woudln't limit you to the different OS's on the network.
 
@tombull89 yeah, thank you.
 
morning
 
@MDMarra mix and match. everything worked fine except setting default printers. I spent a week troubleshooting and digging at it, and the final answer from Microsoft was that it's a known bug and that it will not be fixed for anything older than Win8..
@HopelessN00b aaah. yeah, that sounds like something that surely will break something.
 
2:57 PM
@pauska Not sure if it missed a few things, or if our domain's being particularly slow in replicating today. Maybe I should go take a 4 hour lunch so we can be sure...
 
@pauska Yeah, it's applied in the second round of policy application after the object is created on the client. With a Replace, that never happens
Sort of an obvious bug
 
so update = 2 rounds, replace = 1 round?
always?
 
Replace always recreates the object
If it were an Update instead, it should work as expected
The first time a user logs in if it's set to update, it's hit or miss whether default status is set. But it should always be on the second policy application
With replace, that doesn't happen
At least that's how it was explained to me by someone at MS
I just always use update now, since there is a Delete action as well if I need to decomission something
 
ah now I remember
we did try update as well, but then the default printer didnt get set at first login
so users had to log off and log on again.. kind of pain in the ass if you remember how we do printers here (map by location by looking at the rdp client ip and so on)
 
what kind of datacenter goes down ever couple of months due to power outages?!!!!
given that they have UPS's and Generators
 
3:07 PM
@NickM. The kind that saves money by just saying they have UPSes and generators?
 
lol
No no, i've seen the generators and upses... The thing I didn't see was the unit that automatically redirects power to them during a power outage
 
ain't nobody got time for dat
 
@pauska Are you using loopback for the printer GPP object? Just throw a ECHO n|gpupdate /Target:User /Force in as a logon script. :)
 
@jscott WOAH YOU HAVE HAIR
 
@jscott nope, printer runs as user. but scroll up! We're already doing that trick :-)
 
3:13 PM
Had, actually, right now I'm about a third to that length. Was mucking with the new avatar settings here and found this old pic in gravatar so I too it for a spin.
 
@pauska btw, got more info on that 3par 300tb gig
 
I only get one, or zero, hair cuts a year, and that's just me running the clippers with a #1 attachment.
 
@MDMarra oh oh let me guess
@MDMarra it's a porn site?
 
They want someone with solid storage fundamentals but that can grow into that scale blah blah, so I was a little excited. But then it sounded like they were going to lowball
@pauska haha no logistics company
 
with 300 TERABYTES of storage?
what the fuck are they storing?
 
3:15 PM
300TB is the new 3Par stuff total, or they want to move 300TB to the 3Par stuff?
 
new 300TB 3par
moving off of EVA
 
I just don't get how they are storing that much data
 
@pauska No clue, haven't had anything past a phone screen yet
they're global
 
@pauska No user quotas. :)
 
300TB is alot?
 
3:15 PM
but ok.. still sounds like a fun job tho
 
sounds like they're consolidating
 
what do you mean about lowballing? as in crap salary?
 
yeah
 
I'm not surprised
 
I wouldnt give my salary history (of course) so the recruiter kept pushing
 
3:16 PM
the companies who let you play with the coolest hardware ususally pays much worse
 
I asked him to just tell me what the budget is for the position instead if all that he was worried about was making sure I was a match
he threw out 75k. I sighed. He backtracked.
 
lol
pretty sure im about to get lowballed too
 
But that's the only number he threw out there
 
trying to snag a job in the southwest, GTFO of chicago
 
so I'm slightly concerned. But I have a phone screen at an IBM company 5 minutes from my apartment tomorrow
So I'm looking forward to that
 
3:19 PM
"She had to be super Taco Bell hot"
 
@SpacemanSpiff What's wrong with CHI?
 
There is also a decline in pay right now
 
I get mixed signals about it
 
depends what you like to do with yourself man
I am an outdoors/active/motorcycling fool
 
Well, I love baseball so it would be tough to live in a town full of losers
OH SNAP, I WENT THERE
 
3:20 PM
lol
well you go to cubs games to drink, and sox games to watch baseball
 
But it would be cool to live in a 2-team city
I'm a red sox fan, so I grew up having it be impossible to get tickets, which would mean 1 game a year most years
Now that I'm in philly it's crazy to me that I can just get tickets day-of
 
you can do that here easily enough, stubhub
i've gotten 9 rows back from 1st base for $30/seat before
at wrigley
if you're a city person, this is a great place to be
im a consultant though, and almost NONE of my work is in the city
I'm not going to penalize myself with 2.5hrs of commuting daily just give myself the hipster experience
 
Hipsters needs to die. I bet most devops people are hipsters. Hate them. Die die die.
 
Rex
this year, you could get tickets for pretty much anywhere @ wrigley for cheap
and you could hang out with the hipsters in wrigleyville afterwards at the bars.. lol
 
@SpacemanSpiff haha yeah
@jscott there's an easier way to write this filter, right?
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A: Query Active Directory

MDMarraYou can do this pretty easily in powershell doing something like import-module activedirectory get-aduser -filter {-not (description -eq "auto")} | measure-object

-notlike doesn't behave correctly there
 
3:33 PM
@MDMarra -ne is not equal
description -ne "auto"
 
oh fuck me
I was trying -not
 
That should work also. Oh, I see, that is what you used.
 
no
doesn't work
i mean
it returns a value, but the wrong one
this is interesting
 
? This retuns just me, using the -not syntax:
Get-ADUser -Filter { -not ( Name -ne "Jason Scott" ) }
 
get-aduser filter * | measure-object returns 738 objects in my current domain
I yanked the description from a single user that has a unique desc and ran it again
when I do it my way, it returns 737
when I do it your way (or the other ways I tried) it returns 580
which is way off
PS C:\Users\mmarra> get-aduser -filter {-not (description -eq "ECVS- Administrator- CVS")} | measure-object
Count : 737
Average :
Sum :
Maximum :
Minimum :
Property :
 
3:37 PM
PS H:\> get-aduser -filter * | measure-object
Count : 15514
 
PS C:\Users\mmarra> get-aduser -filter * | measure-object


Count : 738
Average :
Sum :
Maximum :
Minimum :
Property :
PS C:\Users\mmarra> get-aduser -filter {description -ne "ECVS- Administrator- CVS"} | measure-object


Count : 580
Average :
Sum :
Maximum :
Minimum :
Property :
 
Oh right,
Check for $null
 
PS C:\Users\mmarra> get-aduser -filter {description -eq "ECVS- Administrator- CVS"} | measure-object


Count : 1
Average :
Sum :
Maximum :
Minimum :
Property :
why would null be evaluated as true there?
or equal, I should say
 
Hmm... odd, testing something, give me a sec...
Lolz, description isn't returned by default from Get-ADuser :)
Get-ADUser jscott vs Get-ADUser jscott -Property description
One more test...
 
right, but that shouldn't matter for the filter
only for the object that's returned
 
3:47 PM
Right, I was piping it on and looking in there.
 
oh hahah
 
about_ActiveDirectory_Filter seems to indicate -ne should work... Trying to test $null desc.
I agree though, the numbers show it doesn't work...
 
-eq $null errored for me
We're not crazy though, right? -not (something -eq somethingelse) should be the same as something -ne somethingelse
at least in this case)
 
@MDMarra Yes, Demorgan's and all that...
Ok, this is funny:
Get-ADUser -Filter { description -ne "$null" } | Measure-Object
Count : 154
Get-ADUser -Filter { description -eq "$null" } | Measure-Object
 
So, do any of you fools have a solution for this?
 
3:53 PM
Count : 0
 
@ewwhite Yeah, fire up the replacement HP sent you.
 
What do you guys think of the QNAP ?
 
@HopelessN00b same thing happens
 
@ewwhite Still having issues with that? Crikey.
 
3:55 PM
@ewwhite Buy SuperMicro
@jscott what the holy fuck
 
Supermicro? One would think you guys would be hating on supermicro
 
@NickM. was a joke
 
@ewwhite Switch to Dell. :p
 
@MDMarra I'm not sure the -Filter offers a check for IS NULL that works?
 
@NickM. Someone else can explain it. I have to go to HR and sign off on my work from home papers
@jscott i dont think it does
 
3:56 PM
@NickM. QNAP would grace any home network
 
And I was about to show you guys my supermicro collection. Dodged that bullet!
 
Do you think it's hardware?
 
Going to dig through Keith Hill's site.... This seems like how in SQL the NULL doesn't match anything using =. There must be a special check.
 
@ewwhite Or, if you're not willing to switch to Dell, tell your HP rep you're going to switch to Dell if they don't get you a server that actually boots up inside 4 hours.
 
@HopelessN00b this happens randomly... Two servers...
I don't know if it's a server problem
 
3:58 PM
@ewwhite What happens if you power it up with no network cables in?
 
etc.
I mean, the server works... all diags passed. OS'es have been installed.
 
@ewwhite What else could it be? Server hangs at power and temperature calibration. Unless there's a problem with the room temp, or power, it's gotta be a server problem. (Are you plugged into a UPS?)
 
but occasionally, during a warm boot, it hangs
 
@ewwhite do you only have access to this server remotely ?
 
No, I'm sitting here 50 feet from it
 

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