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12:04 AM
sigh One of the Devs quit. I hate having to change all the root passwords. =/
 
why do the devs know the root passwords?
 
@Tacticus Its a best practice, dont you know that?
 
/me looks at the devs
/me looks back at his desk
 
@Tacticus Because the Devs run their own servers and half of every administrative password in the agency uses the same string. The other half is server-specific and doesn't change between password changes.
 
ahh
 
12:14 AM
Yeah, like Joel Salas says, we did DevOps before it was cool. And, yes, a big part of my job is fixing what they've done over the years....
 
@Adrian So you didn't really do it, eh?
 
@JeffFerland ?
 
Well, you're implying that they either did it and devops is broken, or they did it bastardized.
 
@JeffFerland No, DevOps isn't necessarily broken. It has its uses if the Devs are good. Ours aren't so good.....
 
Bastardized.
 
12:18 AM
@Adrian you have firewalls in place to block remote access, no ?
all my navigation bars are a light blue in ios6 and my apps are all "waiting" to be installed - something must be turned on i dont know about...
 
Ry.
@Adrian this is why I use SSH keys everywhere. Period.
I revoke your key and you're gone
 
@Mario Yes, but a few of the servers allow root access because there are no other users.
And I cannot change that because they're the Dev's servers.
I got a serious case of hot pants. Want to convert my Mail server to a VM and snarf the hardware for a backup ESXi server.
Gonna take 3 months to convince management that I'm not going to lose all their email though.
 
vmware converter and show them everything is fine with a test ip?
 
Ry.
permission, forgiveness, assemble
 
12:34 AM
@Ry Yeah, my boss knows me a little better than that.
Doh! Gotta run. later gents!
 
Ry.
kk
don't get shot
 
@Ry heh. Gotta keep low. =)
 
@Adrian I would just do it, and not tell them?
And if you do lose their email, well, oops :p
 
1:00 AM
All excited, right?
 
Ry.
@ewwhite My experience is people get excited no matter what you do
 
1:47 AM
Any Windows RDS people on? Design question.
 
@ewwhite I've done a few small clusters
Whats up?
 
@MarkHenderson legacy customer... was on Windows 2000... now 2003. 80 users on single P2V'ed Terminal server
They have 4 locations and a new MPLS connecting all of them.
I've been slowly getting GPOs in and splitting functions out to get user directories on a dedicated file server.
all clients are HP or Axel thin clients.
and MPLS is routing internet traffic through to the main site.
so the users feel like browsing and Outlook via the terminal server are "slow"
(which it probably is)
What's the best solution? Separate 2008 RDS servers at each site?
Oh, the main applications are Outlook and a Linux app accessed via a customized PuTTy.
 
@ewwhite What kind of latency between the sites?
 
Bandwidth between sites is 3 Megabit and an average of 10ms latency between locations.
 
RDS uses about 56k/session, so you can fit a bunch of users without running out of bandwidth, but latency is a killer
10ms is tiny, perfectly usable for medium RDS use
 
1:56 AM
I think these people are trying to go to Youtube...
and watch streaming sports action
and watch their video surveillance system...
and scroll through big PDFs...
Basically, all the worst things that can impact a terminal server.
 
@MarkHenderson How do you set the low expectations for a terminal server environment?
 
Media is terrible over anything but high bandwidth low latency links
 
Because I think this is a case for PCs for the people who need to do all of this crap.
Or Citrix...
 
@ewwhite If you're aiming for VDI, there's not so much you can do. Otherwise, we deploy actual apps via RemoteApps and let them use their local PCs for everything else
So for some people, we don't actually give them a remote desktop
They just get icons to load specific apps over the RDS
 
1:59 AM
They have no PCs... it's all HP thin clients...
which are Linux and Windows CE based... just janky enough to not be able to run app presentation
 
Hmm
I'd suggest putting the servers in a central location and do a test case
3Mb and 10Ms should work fine for most things
 
so put a server where?
 
Can you put one in the "main site"?
Or is it already in the main site?
 
it is.
 
Ah, I missed that part
 
2:03 AM
so the clients are coming from 3 locations... the users at the main site are fine
 
Ok
Tell them to shut up and stop whining, our users run over 100ms latency :P
If that's the case then there's not so much you can do apart from giving them local servers
The issue with giving them local servers is all the shared resources still need to go over the MPLS link
 
e.g. file, print, etc.
and the MPLS link isn't bad. These places are 2 blocks away from each other, though. The latency is crap for that short distance...
 
Have you seen this?
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A: Starting a branch office on the other side of the world

Mark HendersonWelcome welcome welcome to the world of the Internet in Australia. Even in our largest population center, we can struggle to get 3Mbps downstream on a business-class ADSL2+ connection. Cable penetration is poor in residential areas, and even worse in commercial so unless you're fortunate you can...

 
@MarkHenderson Oh sure, milk it for more upvotes.
=P
 
@MarkHenderson Yes... A lot of this should be manageable... but it's a place with no real local IT support.
Also, for RDS, do I virtualize it or give a dedicated Windows server?
 
2:13 AM
Welcome to our newest member of the 10,000+ vote club:
 
@Ward Mew.
 
The few, the proud, the bored.
 
Cool. ;)
 
@Ward I think I'll go celebrate by downvoting everything on the front page.
 
@ewwhite Well i guess that comes down to normal rules about bare metal/hypervisor
 
2:15 AM
I'm choked at how far I am from having the highest total number of votes across multiple site. Another week or so and I'll have the most on a single site, but that Gilles character from U&L, SciFi, French, etc. has about twice the total votes.
 
We virtualise all ours, because we don't have that much load and can easilly squeeze a DC and a few other Vms on there
But I think at 80 users doing their whole workflow on there, I think thats a possible use case for a dedicated server
 
@WesleyDavid I think when you get to 10,000 you should get some bonus downvotes, or get to vote twice on any question.
 
@MarkHenderson I can split it up, too.
Multiple servers. I already got their files and profiles on a dedicated file server system.
 
@Ward Plus the power to permaban at least one person per week.
 
@ewwhite Pft getting permaban is easy. Just be really popular and win an election.
I hear that the SE team are open to bribes
 
2:20 AM
@MarkHenderson I almost won but ChrisS beat me out by like three votes. =P
 
2:32 AM
Gaahhhh who the fuck defines a field for Serial Number as char(8)?
Even a UPC is longer than 8 chars
 
Seriously Safari? You're getting into the DevOps craze? bit.ly/M1k3DN
"DevOps" and "Cloud" in one video title. Sign me the heck up!!
 
3:01 AM
Wewt.
 
3:16 AM
indiegogo.com/bearlovegood <-- Help Matthew Inman save the bears and boobies! I'm on the donor list, where are you?
theoatmeal.com.nyud.net/blog/funnyjunk_letter <-- The full story for those who don't know already.
 
@ChrisS I don't even see employee posts get as high on the front page of Reddit as that story did. It's been #1 all day.
 
@WesleyDavid theoatmeal deserves to be #1 for almost everything he posts
I don't quite know how his warped little mind works, but I love what it produces
 
3:31 AM
Haha thanks @WesleyDavid I think the default avatar on the inside is fitting. Assuming I did the Gravatar dealy right, it should show up, it should show up soon.
@MarkHenderson I have to agree with you on the oatmeal bit - schtuff is hilarious
 
@Patrick Suit up!
 
4:08 AM
Did everyone notice the new badge? serverfault.com/badges/198/constituent
 
@WesleyDavid I did. SF told me about it about 8 times from the different electiosn I've partaken in
Still, better than the 222 alerts they sent out to individual people about the current SO election
 
was that enough? I can send you more...
 
4:34 AM
quick bash scripting question: I want to assign the value of "time +%s" to variable "v" will v = time +%s do the trick?
 
did you try it? did it work? (:
 
yup
./test.sh: line 1: token: command not found
token was the variable i used
 
@KevinDuke - so, it would appear the canonical answer is "no"
(sorry to be an arse)
 
got it to work. Had to use backticks and no spaces between the = sign and the variable like: token=date +%s
 
5:40 AM
Why does SE have primary elections? Is there a party system that I'm unaware of?
 
@wfaulk I think its just to cull the number of people votes can be distributed against
The idea of a primary is quite alien to me though, we don't have them here. I only know of them from 24 Season 1 because they said it every fucking episode "The following takes place between 2pm and 3pm on the day of the Californian Presidential Primary "
 
@MarkHenderson think of them as party preselection in .au
though we have IRV which reduces the need for primaries of any sort
 
@Tacticus Yeah and then they run a whole election campaign on Kevin 07 and then when they ditch him and we get upset they say "Well you're meant to vote for a PARTY not a PERSON". Assholes.
 
well you didn't even vote for aparty
you voted for members who would choose their leader
tbh i would prefer to move away from leader politics and head towards each candidate as their own person
choose the member that fits rather than a party or leader
 
5:57 AM
I think the whole system here stinks
Seriously, we have 7 states/terrotiries for 20 million people?
So thats 5 state governments plus federal government, plus local councils and local members
Upper house and lower house
Senate
Its a shitload of overhead for such a small population
And then all you get is bickering and fighting between the state parties, bickering between the federal parties, and then bickering between the states and territories
And then internal bickering inside each party
 
there's only 20 megapeople in .au?
sho'nuff. I didn't realize
 
@wfaulk 22,328,800 according to Google (which knows everything)
Yet a physical area of only a bit smaller than the US
 
and like 75% of that population is in like 5 cities
wow
 
@wfaulk And it's almost all on the east coast
 
yeah, I knew that
 
6:09 AM
And then you get people like @Tacticus who used to live in one of the most barren and isolated towns in the country :p
 
and there's like one population center on the west coast and one on the northwest coast, right?
 
@wfaulk Correct. Perth on the west coast, and Darwin on the north
And only one on the south, which is Adelaide
 
Good answer @MarkHenderson, but since it's a rant, not a question, it should be closed.
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Q: Why so many of my questions closed?

BobbI had quite a few questions downvoted and closed here and on SO. Most of them were explained like it (what majority involved at the moment "felt") doesnt fit to the stack exchange format. The latest example was - I asked how many ampere would DL140 G1 consume.. and the answer was - the question ...

 
@Ward There are questions on the bottom, but I ignored them
In fact I really only skimmed the title and the first paragraph
It wasnt until after I wrote my answer that I read his insulting comments
At which stage I decided I wouldn't stoop to his level
 
hell, darwin's not exactly big. my town's bigger than it is
 
6:13 AM
G'day
 
@wfaulk It's not even on that map!
 
if you read the rest of that guy's questions we're doing his project for him
 
yeah, I noticed. they could have chosen better gradients
 
he's asked pretty much how to do everything from installing the OS to well everything
 
What the fuck are we all sporting BOFH avatars for if there's no mod-hammering of someone who desperately deserves it?
The question on meta should be closed 'cause it's not a question.
But leave it around so people can easily find his other stupid questions and down-vote them.
And post his home address so we can toss bricks through his windows.
 
6:21 AM
Everyone else jump on it and close it. Otherwise he'll just have more ammo if I mod slam it
 
I love this
> P.S. this is not really about me. this is about the community going to dogs. i want to help
from someone who has visited 53 times in 2 years
 
@Iain I've given him his first and only warning
 
@Iain ?
 
If he wants to be polite and constructive he can go for his hearts content. But if he continues to be an ahole, he'll get shitcanned
 
only 53 times in 2 years?
 
6:28 AM
@MarkHenderson Although that makes sense, the fact that he's an arrogant idiot makes hammering appropriate.
 
Well home time for me
 
He's using us as a personal research assistant
 
I've locked the question, that should shut everyone up for now and you can all move on to taking over the world ^H^H^H^Hserver fault
Cya all
 
I closed it and deleted it - people shouldn't have to read ranting insults before coffee
 
@Iain Thank you.
Got out on the tandem 2 days in a row! It must be almost summer, except it's supposed to rain again tomorrow.
 
6:48 AM
oh dear look at bobbs comments to the answer here serverfault.com/questions/397798/…
 
@Iain Like I said, an arrogant idiot.
 
That Bobb meta question, plus a certain hockey game result have got me in a foul mood - hiding from humanity for the day - arghhh
 
Hockey? Is there hockey on?
 
:( not now :(
 
I didn't see anything like the above this year, so I kinda lost interest.
 
7:05 AM
@Chopper3 Out of curiosity, are you talking about US/Canada hockey? Is there a hockey league in the UK?
 
@wfaulk He's talking about:
 
I figured, but I don't expect people outside the US and Canada to pay any attention to US/Canada sports
 
I'm evil :D
Go referrals, Go!
 
@BartDeVos: should you be putting random folk's e mail addresses in public view? ;p
 
7:28 AM
I guess not, let me remove it :)
 
The more I look at bobb's questions the more I see student and impending deadline for thesis
 
@Iain Link?
 
just above wards photo
 
@BartDeVos Search for user Bobb on the main site.
@Iain Maybe, or just some guy who has a theory about latency but doesn't really understand networking enough to figure stuff out for himself.
Actually, that would be the same pattern as his current draw question... he doesn't understand the basics well enough, otherwise he'd have figured out "measure the amperage" or just estimate it based on some fraction of full load.
Rats, we've got rain tomorrow...
Now I'm finished my important work of generating a report of how many volunteer hours parents at my kid's school have done, so I can go to bed.
 
7:47 AM
@Ward One of the comments on the draw question said buy an ammeter his response was an ammeter costs around 20 quid so that suggests no money
 
Good night Evil Bastard SysAdmins!
 
@Iain I remember that one...tight git.
The Onion fundraiser did a bit better than expected...about 80k now.
 
@tombull89 Was over 10k in an hour :D
 
@BartDeVos I saw Tom O' Connor had posted a link to the page but when I tried to get on the site had killed itself - and I think it took down the fundraiser site too. I am impressed.
 
Reddit-effect is the new slashdot-effect imo :)
 
7:54 AM
Uh, Oatmeal, not Onion.
 
Dan
8:17 AM
Word up!
<---has been changed, just not refreshed!
 
@Dan Ctrl-F5 > all good.
 
Dan
@tombull89 Yeah, I recalled from last time it took a while to propagate, but yes all is good now and I live in glorious evil red
 
We just need TomTom...he's a BOFH if I saw one.
 
Dan
@tombull89 No, he's just a a bastard
 
Needs this when you view it: inception.davepedu.com
 
 
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11:22 AM
anyone about who can bash ?
when calling a bash function f() like this f & does the & have any effect ?
 
yes, it executes the function in background
 
Indeed, to the background :)
 
@faker ok, if I examine $$ just before calling the function and within the function it's the same
@BartDeVos too
 
11:38 AM
to/too, i'll never get my head around it
same with of/off
don't know why
 
@Iain it's a subshell, don't know why $$ returns the parent process ID in that case
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Q: $$ in a script vs $$ in a subshell

abc$$ gives process id of the script process when used in a script, like this: Example 1 #!/bin/bash # processid.sh # print process ids ps -o cmd,pid,ppid echo "The value of \$\$ is $$" $ ./processid.sh CMD PID PPID bash 15073 4657 /bin/bash ...

 
@faker I was just reading about $BASHPID which does change in f() hmmm
 
12:03 PM
for os x - had to run my quarterly wireless scan this morning and kismac was giving me shit - input the map of my building - did my walk - all the usual points showed up + 3 i didnt recognize - searched for those in the firewall - didnt find them - building secure - continue on.
 
1:02 PM
Somebody buy me a drink. I quit.
2
 
if your in buffalo, i'll buy you 2
 
Ok, I'm having a mental meltdown
How the fuck do you download/install JUST SP3 for SQL Server 2008 Express?
The only download that I can find is for SP3 integrated into the SQL Express installer and running that doesn't give the option to upgrade an existing instance to SP3 as far as i can tell
 
The generic SP3 package should upgrade Express edition
 
Oh
The technet page leaves Express off
and gives a link for SP3 Express w/ Advanced Tools that is the full installer
so i didn't think that would work.
And of course it's working
MS documentation fail
 
@MDMarra You may also enjoy: sqlsecurity.com/faqs-1/sql-server-versions
 
1:17 PM
Nice
 
Dan
Wow, apparently I've written 1200+ lines of code in the last couple of days, cool
 
1:31 PM
@MDMarra You use the installer, then point it towards the existing express DB. Should upgrade it in place. MSSQL is funny that way.
 
@Hyppy The Express SP3 installer didn't work like that
The full SQL Server SP3 installer did upgrade Express, despite the lack of Express being listed on the support page
 
Yeah, it's really strange line that. You apply the full SP3 to any DB, the Express SP3 is just a standalone installation. Should have specified, sorry :-P
 
1:55 PM
was just out deploying 2 new pcs for new employees; their manager standing right there said to one of them "mario is just misserable all the time" - wtf! i'm not misserable - i just hate stupid people.
 
@Mario just needed to say "mario is also not deaf"
 
i'm here to give you a pc - holding it under my arm - and you cant get up out of your chair and move so i can put it in? and you question my state of mind?
was getting my oil changed not to long ago - these assholes are sitting in the car while the guy is trying to work around them. get out of the f'ing car and let the dude do his work. wtf is wrong with people
 
@Mario Do not ask questions you don't want to know the answers to
 
@voretaq7 Bwarp! Brwap! Potential Men In Black III reference!
 
@tombull89 yeah that too, but it's a variation on the old lawyer's adage: Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
 
2:06 PM
@ewwhite C...C...C...Combobreaker!
 
@Mario I really REALLY can't stand the whole passive-aggressive "talk about the IT guy or IT issues while the IT guy is working" thing that users do
 
morning
 
@tombull89 Hmm?
 
@Hyppy so that doesn't only happen at my office then
 
If they have a problem with something, fucking tell me then. I'm not going to volunteer to help you if you can't even be an adult and ask me face to face
 
2:07 PM
@ewwhite 6 BOFHtars in a row.
 
yup
 
i love "they" - they didnt give access to this or they said this - Who is they? IT consists of 2 people in this company, and i'm 1 of them. so if by "they" your implying me....
 
The worst is the "SIIIIGHH my computer is soooo sloooow" that's half-shouted in a conversation (you're not involved in) while you make your way through the break room.
@Mario Ahh, the mystical cult of "They". Mysterious bunch, They.
 
we solved slow finally - all brand new pc's - all optiplex 380 core2duo's (i know its dated, but their cheap and atleast their not the beige compaq off lease shit we had) - no one can complain of slowness here unless they f'ed it up themselves
 
@Mario "Yes, we didn't give you access to that, because the last time we did you completely fucked your workstation up and we had to burn a day reinstalling it. When you prove yourself able to handle access we'll consider granting it."
Alternate answer: "The Horde of Ecumenical Yodelers don't run IT here." but most of them won't get the Pinky and the Brain reference.
 
2:22 PM
-2
Q: How to install latest version of ffmpeg on centos 5.8 64bit using ssh

user57221How to install latest version of ffmpeg on centos 5.8 64bit using ssh for php 5.4?

@SvenW Buuurrrrnnn
 
@voretaq7 we've had to revoke delete privleges from users on the file share because of ignorance.
 
@Mario "Hi, IT Guy? I just deleted a file I created this morning. It is very important to me. I need it back now."
 
@Hyppy Volume Shadow Copy...
Run that like every hour.
 
been thinking about roaming profiles but we dont have the storage or infrastructure for it (we think) 150 pcs and everything is 100baset...
 
2:37 PM
@jscott Keeping hourly shadow copies on a high-load file server is a bit intensive, especially to restore someone's edits on a personal photo album (yes really)
 
@Mario Windows roaming profiles are the worlds worst implementation of anything, EVER.
 
the company just doesn't care - we're an iSeries shop - windows (shares, exchange) are just to provide nicities.
 
Dan
@Mario Roaming profiles are okay if you can spend the time being selective. Alternatively, folder redirection can provide an inbetween solution
 
@Mario I inherited a roaming profile shop... I can't seem to figure out a way to get out of it. It takes 15 minutes for the users to log in or out, but they throw a hissy fit when they don't have access to everything on every workstation that they log into (even though they only use a different one once a month)
 
i've seen a product from VMWare that provided a sort of roaming VM image - was thinking about that also maybe
like a remote desktop type thing
 
Dan
2:40 PM
@Mario Are you thinking of VDI? VMWare View?
 
maybe
 
I think you're thinking of doing VDI with Orchestrator/vCloud Director + View
 
Dan
VDI is part of what I do - it's brilliant, but not for everyone
 
@Mario That's a complete infrastructure overhaul. Plus, not so good on overloaded 100mb links.
 
It's not roaming profiles, it's more thin clients + beefy backend servers powering linked clones of everything
 
2:41 PM
doesn't matter - the idea of a lto5 carosel and new storage array was shot down, their not gonna approve 3 or 4 esxi servers
 
There's a lawyer's office that subleases space from us and is right next to me. One of their clients last name that I just heard the secretary spelling was something to the effect of "Scheit".
 
@Hyppy Sure it is. It's fine over 100Mb. All of the work is done on the backend servers.
You only use your desktop's network connection to run View or RDP
 
@MDMarra If you're talking thin clients, yes. I thought he was talking locally-run images.
 
f'ing share server is down to 16gb from 350gb
 
@Hyppy I don't think that there's a VMWare product for that
@Mario Install FSRM? :p
 
Dan
2:43 PM
@MDMarra Client side virtualisation has still got some way to go until Type 1 hypervisors are a viable solution
 
i want something that boots like esxi (stripped down 'nix - not windows) that'll remote out to esxi and load a VM - based on whatever - give it a PC name that matches a vm image - a thin vm
 
You want a thin client
 
there's 'nix thin clients, even debian ones
 
0
Q: How does top calculate CPU usage on a Linux system with a single core?

SupratikHow is CPU usage calculated on a Linux system with a single core? Cpu(s): 28.1%us, 6.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 43.0%id, 21.6%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.5%si, 0.2%st Please explain me how the us, sy, ni, id, wa, hi, si and st values are obtained.

"Why?" "Because this." "Why?" Because this." "Why?" ARGH
 
Clearly, you need to flowchart out the code logic. Clearly.
 
2:47 PM
basically - leave the optiplexes in place, load an image remotely - pc dies - image is stored on a central array. put new pc in place, basic config and off we go. 10 min deploy, not 3 hours
 
@Dan Then maybe you can answer my questions from last night.
 
99% of them are the same - office (word, excel, outlook ), iseries access and a web browser - some file shares and a printer - few have anything like acrobat pro or visio
 
I give up. He wants a source code analysis; voting for SE :-P
 
never gonna happen either way - wish list... need to finish getting off xp so i can upgrade exchange - 2008 / 10 exchange wont work with office 2003 we understand
 
It worked fine for me
And Office 2007/2010 also works fine on XP
 
Dan
2:52 PM
@ewwhite If media is their thing then Citrix with HDX compatible clients is the way to go IMHO. Or, see what RDS is like in Server 2012
 
had an idea for a piece of software - i called it distributed storage - small conduit on each pc carves out a portion of the hard drive - communicating back to a central server - would tell the server how much space is available on each pc and via some "raid" programming, could distribute the file share across multiple pc's. redundancy in place so if a pc died, the share didnt go with it.
so even though we couldn't / cant upgrade the server, we could utilize the 100gb's of storage on pc that goes unused
 
@Mario That's already a thing
 
pfo
@Mario it's called a distributed file system
 
@Mario but when 3 people reboot for lunch you lose the array :)
 
pfo
AFS is one example
 
2:54 PM
@Dan It's not media... not in general, just people using thin clients like regular PCs. How do you set the lower expectation for users?
 
pfo
@ewwhite you clearly need to communicate the disadvantages of thin clients
without tech like Nvidia+VDI
 
no one reboots / shuts down unless we tell them to :) :(
 
@pfo The customer is legacy... they've been on thin clients since 2003-ish. Used to have Relisys serial terminals before that.
 
pfo
with the new Kepler virtualization stuff you can let VMs share GPU instance and proper VDI gives you the "full desktop experience". Also View can handle things like preventing Flash to eat up all the cycles on the servers up to a certain degree.
 
Dan
@ewwhite See, that's tough. We tend to roll out 'rich' thin clients if you will, but basically they need to accept that they lose some quality for the sake of density, ease of management and cost (maybe)
 
pfo
2:56 PM
but all that 2003 RDS stuff is clearly not suited for the full thingy.
thin clients with RDP < 7 have limitations
flash and media are one of those
 
So I think the usage patterns have changed more than the tech. Users go to the crazy websites, listen to streaming audio, etc.
 
pfo
@Dan yeah, that's a good option.
 
@pfo andrew file system? openAFS?
 
pfo
so a client of mine does a mixture of RDS and remoteapps.
 
And yeah, a heavy investment in their existing thin clients (HP debian and WIndows CE-based) means that those thin clients are unusable for remoteapp.
 
pfo
2:58 PM
the thinnest thingy just has remote apps or is a console for calling mstsc to the terminal server farm and passes the credentials so the user just sees mstsc connecting to the farm once.
the medium range boxes have more remoteapps but some local stuff
 
Dan
@ewwhite Yeah, anything pre XP is shite really. We use a lot of T5740's which are pretty spot on. Wyse do some okay stuff too
 
pfo
and the high end boxes for the full featured 3D stuff have stuff mostly local with some apps coming from appV etc.
 
So really, I need to be installing Win7 embedded thin clients these days to be able to take full advantage of current protocols.
 
Citrix's Xen stuff is fun for remote applications. Played around with that quite a bit at my last place.
 
pfo
the let the end client chose wich experience they want to pay for.
 
2:59 PM
But all the users need is Outlook, Web, Acrobat and PuTTY...
 
pfo
@ewwhite and good luck getting a licensing on that.
 

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