The Comms Room

7:00 PM

They've got some arrogant neckbeardy asshole of a network admin there. Won't use a ticket system. Won't document the network. Won't train his padawans on how stuff works so that he stays indispensible.

Goatmale

We had a vendor tell us that part of the contract was that we needed to tell them we didn't want to renew 3 months before the renewal. When we wanted to ditch them they said we had already defaulted into another year because we didn't read the fine print.

@Adrian Sounds like the lady I work with.

Adrian

@Goatmale I'd just stop paying them at that point.

Zoredache

@Adrian Is it just me, or was anyone else expecting to find a gay p0rn site a t that domain ipns.com ? All the devoweling I see in im/text chats these days has done weird things to my mind.

Adrian

@Zoredache Yeah, and wholly appropriate for how shitty their service is. Seriously, half their monitoring equipment is on vanity domains operated by the neckbeard. The jerk's totally metastasized and taken over the operations from management.

The network admin even had his vanity domain added to SPF records for all domains hosted there.

Goatmale

It's a customer I cannot. Need to make nice to get paid.

voretaq7

7:04 PM

@Goatmale Did the contract say such things?

because if it did you're kinda screwed.

Adrian

@voretaq7 depends on the state.

voretaq7

@Adrian Still involves court and/or lawyers

Goatmale

I just make sure all the lights are blinking and that the backups are working and everything is documented and shiny.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Yes. Most likely.

voretaq7

(also the fun language at the end of most contracts: "This agreement to be governed by the laws of the state of [wherever the contractor is located, with laws conveniently favorable to the contractor]")

Goatmale

7:07 PM

Yeah, not a great way to do business.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Which don't necessarily override consumer protection laws though.

Basil

afternoon

Goatmale

Stockholm Syndrome has never been a great business practice.

voretaq7

@Adrian consumer protection laws are kinda spotty when dealing with corp-to-corp contracts aren't they?

@Goatmale Works for banks!

Goatmale

Haha. We're a "good" bank.

Adrian

7:08 PM

@voretaq7 sometimes. also depends. It's also why we tend to pay for that stuff via credit card.

Goatmale

Family owned.. very community and customer service oriented.

voretaq7

@Goatmale . . . you'll be bought by Chase in about a month.

Or Capital One.

Adrian

@Goatmale Being a small bank is a kiss of death nowadays. Stigma of being a bank and not having the scale to play with the big fish.

Goatmale

In that case i'm glad I work for an MSP and not the bank :)

Adrian

I refuse to do my financial services through banks anymore. credit union or cash.

voretaq7

7:12 PM

@Adrian Unfortunately my local credit union is not as attractive as OctoBank

Adrian

I've never understood why some people still think that what bank you go through is a sign of social standing.

@voretaq7 You're in NY. Aren't there about 300 credit unions within spitting distance?

voretaq7

@Adrian kinda

many are still restricted membership (the good ones)

the best open-membership one by me is Bethpage FCU

Adrian

@voretaq7 Weird. None of them do that anymore here. If you're residing in the state, you can join.

voretaq7

@Adrian that's a huge problem IMHO

credit union membership should be restricted to people of known good financial standing

(unfortunately that means they wind up being too small to compete effectively)

Goatmale

Who else slept for 14 hours yesterday?

ewwhite

7:20 PM

Right or wrong?

Sorry to you and everyone who upvoted this, but you're just wrong. Handling the loss of in progress writes is exactly what the journal is for, and as long as the drive correctly reports whether it has a write cache and obeys commands to flush it, the journal guarantees that the metadata will not be inconsistent. You only need a supercap or battery backed raid cache so you can enable write cache without having to enable barriers, which sacrifices some performance to maintain data correctness. — psusi 7 mins ago

Goatmale

Grrr. A deleted Group Policy and it's still being applied.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Not really been a problem. It's so tough to get a loan through the credit unions here (as opposed to the banks) that most of the local credit unions came out of the financial crisis smelling like roses and scooping up tens of thousand of new customers each month.

voretaq7

@Adrian our credit unions will give me loans, but not at an attractive rate

Adrian

I'm a member of the Boeing Credit Union, which isn't just for Boeing employees anymore, and it's been very very good.

voretaq7

(9%)

Adrian

7:26 PM

@voretaq7 Pretty much. My LoC is 10%.

voretaq7

@Adrian I wouldn't mind, but at that rate it's simply not attractive to borrow

MDMarra

@Goatmale Have you refreshed policy yet?

Goatmale

@MDMarra I did a "repadmin /syncall" and a "gpupdate /force" on the client.

MDMarra

yeah

What policy? Some don't revert to their previous state when unapplied?

(like Folder Redirection)

voretaq7

our credit unions are also less willing to do "interesting" things than some smaller banks

case in point, when I financed the airplane I did it through a bank up in Ithaca (7%) because our credit union wasn't willing to finance it as a boat/RV loan (3%) and would only offer me an unsecured loan (9%)

Goatmale

7:28 PM

It's an install policy for a product we use, but the install policy is for two versions ago.

MDMarra

Do you not just update the existing policy with the new installer?

Goatmale

They reccomended disabling it and using a logon script

MDMarra

oh

gross

Goatmale

Ever use Desktop Authority?

voretaq7

@Goatmale Spit.

Goatmale

7:30 PM

The logon script lauches the product it self, so it makes sense.

MDMarra

Nope, never heard of it

ewwhite

Posting "-1 for poor reading-comprehension..." would be too snarky, right?

MDMarra

What's it do?

Zoredache

@Goatmale I am sure they meant startup script right? Not logon script? Logon scripts run in the users context and they shouldn't be able to install anything.

Goatmale

@MDMarra It's uses KiXStarter scripts to make group policy like policies that are a lot easier to manage / set up

ewwhite

7:33 PM

@Goatmale the resume is being passed up the chain...

MDMarra

@Goatmale I really dislike kix

I just don't get the value in it

Goatmale

@ewwhite You are the best.

ewwhite

@Goatmale Trying... plus I want that finder's-fee!

So who wants to hear about today's production disaster?

Zoredache

@ewwhite a disaster story is always good.

Scott Pack

@ewwhite You typed write mem again didn't you?

voretaq7

7:38 PM

@ewwhite were seagulls involved?

ewwhite

It'll make you scratch you head and go all LOL WUT?!?

MDMarra

@ewwhite Please be an AD story. Please be an AD story.

You need to "free up" a windows engineer position :p

voretaq7

@MDMarra it's ALWAYS an AD story.

Goatmale

@MDMarra I think the best thing about the product is that it groups policies by things like "Folder Redirection" and "Printers" settings and then you can drill down and apply them to groups and users rather the doing it the other way around with GPOs.

MDMarra

@Goatmale WMI filtering or item-level targetting do this natively though. As does security filtering.

That stuff was sorely missing in the 2000 and early 2003 era though

ewwhite

7:40 PM

Well, let's see how much I can reveal...

MDMarra

We have a bunch of kix startup scripts here and I was like WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, but no one wants me to touch them so fuck it. Not my problem

Goatmale

@MDMarra Yeah, still easier. Plus it has really really great logging.

tombull89

@MDMarra We use KIX to map our printers, don;t use it for anything else.

MDMarra

Dude Item-Level targeting is amazing, too bad it only works on Preference items

Goatmale

We have maybe 5 GPOs for our entire domain.

ewwhite

7:42 PM

Okay... so client has filesystem problem on virtual machine.

Aborting journal on device dm-2.
ext3_abort called.
EXT3-fs error (device dm-2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal
Remounting filesystem read-only
EXT3-fs error (device dm-2): ext3_lookup: unlinked inode 49163 in dir #2
EXT3-fs error (device dm-2): ext3_lookup: unlinked inode 49163 in dir #2
EXT3-fs error (device dm-2): ext3_lookup: unlinked inode 49163 in dir #2

It's a virtual machine in a vSphere 4.1 cluster on Isilon NFS storage.

Adrian

@ewwhite lemme guess. Running UDP w/ async?

ewwhite

I look at the logs inside the VM...

Dec  5 01:57:20 prodmessage1v kernel: : connection1:0: ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv timeout 5, last rx 6530895026, last ping 6530904406, now 6530909806
Dec  5 01:57:20 prodmessage1v kernel: : connection1:0: detected conn error (1011)
Dec  5 01:57:20 prodmessage1v kernel: : connection1:0: detected conn error (1011)
Dec  5 01:57:21 prodmessage1v iscsid: Kernel reported iSCSI connection 1:0 error (1011) state (3)
Dec  5 01:57:24 prodmessage1v iscsid: connection1:0 is operational after recovery (1 attempts)

So to recap... Linux VM running in VMWare on top of NFS... Errors inside of Linux VM for a filesystem that went real-only because of an iSCSI connection problem.

So um... there's an iSCSI volume to the same SAN attached directly to the VM.

It's weird, but not completely crazy...

But I notice that the iSCSI-based filesystem with errors won't remount read/write...

Adrian

@ewwhite Same filesystem mounted in two places?

ewwhite

and that it wasn't in /etc/fstab

So, WTF...

I call client, and they explain that there are TWO virtual machines running this messaging application. They're on the same vSphere cluster. They have them running active/passive and there's an iSCSI-based EXT3-formatted volume that is shared between the two VM's...

So I say, "but ext3 is not a cluster filesystem... you can't mount it on two servers at the same time..."

"Why are you doing this?"

Client replies, "Well, we manually mount the iSCSI ext3 volume on the active server. We just want to have the other server running so we have some high-availability"

So the corruption is a result of janky iSCSI mapping and sharing of a non-clustered filesystem.

But the real problem is a customer trying to make their own high availability on virtual machines, rather than using the features provided by their VMWare infrastructure (it's Enterprise Plus licensing on a 15-host cluster).

voretaq7

@ewwhite . . . . WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!

RobM

7:57 PM

@ewwhite - the stupid, it burns

ewwhite

It's the Cloud... we give people the power to destroy their own applications and systems.

Adrian

@ewwhite Heh. Well, if it makes you feel better, I know some consultants who tried that routine back in 2007 back before I told them that they could not do so.

@ewwhite The Atlanta office of a certain telecom consulting company that got started in Israel.

I'll let you connect those dots

WesleyDavid

Cloud iOX! EC2 iSCSI targets over xterm. Quick, to the patent office!

ewwhite

Following the call, the client asked if there was a better filesystem that they could use to share storage for this application...

RobM

and you replied "anything"

WesleyDavid

8:03 PM

@ewwhite Did you say ResierFS?

Adrian

Veritas and then charge them 50% over MSRP as a stupid tax.

RobM

Ah... all those ResierFS jokes are enough to make you die laughing

ewwhite

Honestly, I don't see the need for this high availability in a 15-node ESXi cluster backed by a SAN..

Goatmale

@RobM I don't get it.. mind explaining?

Adrian

@Goatmale dude killed his wife.

RobM

8:04 PM

@Goatmale en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser

Adrian

Dude's got the crazy eyes. Just a matter of time.....

RobM

We're real short of staff at the moment, got a LOT of illness. So I was covering the helpdesk.

Got a complaint from the person who manages that. Apparently saying "You want WHAT" and then laughing for 5 minutes isn't the ITIL approved method of dealing with lecturers who want local admin access to their classroom PC, even if it *IS* technically accurate.

ewwhite

Well, it's the frustrating thing about this cloud stuff. We cannot really tell people how to do things.

RobM

cloud.. always makes me worried

ewwhite

The same client has Linux VM's that have NFS mounts, iSCSI mounts, CIFS mounts, old kernels and there's no rhyme or reason... All of this on a single VM...

RobM

8:08 PM

oh dear

Goatmale

Oh wow, he killed his mail order bride.

nerd life

ewwhite

Anywho, the guy sitting next to me on the plane has an iPad Mini... I want to ask him about it... But I feel inadequate with my regular iPad 2...

Scott Pack

@ewwhite Oh honey. It's not because of the iPad.

ewwhite

(And why is my iPad getting 3-bars on Verizon at 35,000 feet?)

Basil

I might get a real tablet for christmas- a nexus :P

Goatmale

8:19 PM

Nexus 7 is great.

ewwhite

@Basil ServerFault doesn't seem to be much of an iPhone/iPad place...

Scott Pack

@Goatmale Agreed. I've been really happy with mine. The size is great.

Goatmale

Running a custom ROM?

Scott Pack

Negative.

ewwhite

What about apple integrations and slickness? No longer appealing?

Scott Pack

8:21 PM

I haven't seen a point.

@ewwhite Apple is like Cisco. It integrates flawlessly with itself. While I use a MacBook, I don't have any other Apple devices, nor do I use any of their ecosystem.

ewwhite

I think I'm part of the cult. But I'm at the age where these devices are just tools. I don't get a hard-on for the newest Apple devices anymore.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Plenty of us have Apple gear, sir

voretaq7

@MDMarra buy more.

MDMarra

I have one of everything already

voretaq7

Stock price needs to go back up :P

ewwhite

8:25 PM

Now the guy next to me is double-fisting with an iPad mini in one hand, and an iPhone 5 in the other!

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voretaq7

@MDMarra MOAR!

MDMarra

you filthy stockholder

voretaq7

@MDMarra I showered this morning thank you.

Scott Pack

@ewwhite No doubt. Now, if I had bought an iPhone back when they were the smartphone industry it might have been different. I didn't get one until about a year ago.

voretaq7

@ewwhite I'm not a cultist, but there are no other tablets that do what I want as well as an iPad, and if I'm using the iPad I may as well use the iPhone.

And for all its shit problems OS X is a tolerable desktop OS.

ewwhite

8:29 PM

So what's the short argument for moving away from iPhone/iPad?

Goatmale

@ewwhite Android is cool :)

WesleyDavid

I so wanted Android to work out as a tablet OS. So far I have not been impressed, but I'm going to try a Nexus or Galaxy before I completely chuck it and go iPad. =/

(That said I'm getting an iPhone five to keep my 4 year iPhone streak alive)

MDMarra

I kinda want to try out a surface

Goatmale

Jelly Bean blows the other versions out of the water.

MDMarra

But no fucking way will I pay for one

WesleyDavid

8:30 PM

@ewwhite People that like to dick around with the OS on a granular level - Ie people that do not have enough productive tasks in their life and want to waste oxygen. =P

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 For my purposes, I've definitely found it to be the best desktop OS.

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra They're actually really nice. Metro still sucks, but is tolerable on a tablet, and it is a very nice tablet.

ewwhite

I was watching Gossip Girl, er..., TV

8

And noticed the Surface displayed prominently...

Basil

@ewwhite Sticky request

1 min ago, by ewwhite

I was watching Gossip Girl, er..., TV

@WesleyDavid: make it sticky! Wait, not like that...

voretaq7

@ScottPack it's the worst desktop OS out there, except for all the others.

Scott Pack

8:34 PM

@voretaq7 Your face is #terrible

ewwhite

Same for last weekend's Suburgatory episode... The plot involved the main character falling I love with her tablet as a replacement for a love interest... See: news.softpedia.com/news/…

Goatmale

I actually had a friend write a screenplay with that premise.

HopelessN00b

Is there any way to troubleshoot SCCM that's better than taking it out back and shooting it for causing trouble?

It's quickly becoming my least favorite... thing... which is quite the achievement.

Adrian

@ewwhite I'm really not happy about the things that broke in iOS6. I use mapping ALL THE TIME and not having map search and navigation is a dealbreaker.

voretaq7

@ScottPack Everything is terrible.

Adrian

8:36 PM

@ewwhite I'm seriously considering dropping $500-600 later this Spring for an unlocked high-end Android and ditching the iPhone.

ewwhite

Yeah, the mapping is shit.

Goatmale

That's one thing Android has over IOS. The Android Navigation app is better then any GPS device i've ever used.

ewwhite

Microsoft's Surface ads look interesting.

Brent Pabst

oh TomTom

Why do ou think you need to reinitialize the arrays? Backup, replace one set if discs, let array rebuild etc. Pls why the heck do you ue Backup Exec? Did no one explain you how to use the sql server included backup mechanisms? — TomTom 17 mins ago

Basil

I only see 7 stars on chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7146433#7146433

You can do better, people

HopelessN00b

8:39 PM

@BrentPabst My downvote comment arrow isn't showing up for that comment. Someone should tell mSO.

Brent Pabst

@HopelessN00b I'm starting to wonder if TomTom IS anonymous

HopelessN00b

Heh, someone shoul @ him on that.

"Dude, it's getting hard to tell you apart from /b/... might wanna look into doing something about that before it becomes a permanent condition..."

ewwhite

I can explain the Gossip Girl viewing!! It's how I conducted my research on New York before taking this job!

Scott Pack

@ewwhite Is that your excuse for Sex and the City as well?

Brent Pabst

@CryptoJones Back to admin trainee program. You can always upgrade one by one, then, once all discs in an array are larger size, expand the raid group. Why do you even think you can not plug in a LARGER replacement disc? — TomTom 32 secs ago

@voretaq7 Can we get some mod clean-up on aisle serverfault.com/questions/455428/…? TomTom forgot to eat lunch today.

ewwhite

8:47 PM

@ScottPack I've walked by Carrie's West Village apartment a few times...

Scott Pack

@ewwhite Do did you proper move up there?

Basil

@ewwhite My wife loves Gossip Girl. I tried watching it once just to spend time with her, and I literally hate it more than I love my wife, and I really love my wife.

jscott

What? MSF has a /review? Can believe I missed that.

ewwhite

@ScottPack Nope. Still live in Chicago.

Scott Pack

@ewwhite cool

ewwhite

8:51 PM

@Basil I've now seen all of the seasons in a 3-month period, thanks to wife.

David

@ewwhite whipped!

Brent Pabst

@TomTom did you forget to eat lunch today? You know your blood sugar makes you crazy when you don't eat enough! — Brent Pabst 1 min ago

voretaq7

polished.

MDMarra

15

Q: How fast is 127.0.0.1?

I wonder it it is tied to my NIC at all or if the OS or driver intercepts and immediately returns data sent to the loopback address? Do the electrons actually travel to my NIC then the NIC returns them?

Brent Pabst

@voretaq7 Missed one: serverfault.com/questions/455428/…

MDMarra

8:55 PM

ಠ_ಠ

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra That's an interesting theory question.

Brent Pabst

@MDMarra In Windows it depends on whether or not its 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.0.1.

Goatmale

@MDMarra Isn't that a PowerUser question?

Brent Pabst

Needs to be on a Computer Science SE site

not sure if that exists or not though

MDMarra

@BrentPabst There is, but that wouldn't fit there

Shit's all math

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Scott Pack

9:00 PM

@MDMarra Right, it's Computer Science.

voretaq7

@BrentPabst fix'd

Brent Pabst

@voretaq7 grassy ass!

voretaq7

@BrentPabst ...at least the dog wiped?

MDMarra

Math is for bros

Goatmale

Math is for virgins.

Brent Pabst

9:01 PM

@voretaq7 That's my shitty spanish for gracias.

@Goatmale @MDMarra Fuck math.

voretaq7

@MDMarra ...the bros in my math classes were funny

they're cute when they're totally not getting the concept of computing the area of a rotating solid using integration...

MDMarra

fucking nerds

Goatmale

Goddamnit I hate when I forget a password I set 30 seconds ago.

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 That's what the TI-92 is for.

David

I want one of those new TI n-spire things

ewwhite

9:08 PM

HP48 GX, fools

David

i still use my TI-84 SILVER

like a boss

i found out there was an update since i used it in high school, called MathPrint

makes stuff so much easier...

tombull89

Did anybody read about the Portal for TI-83/84 project?

►

voretaq7

@ScottPack HP50

@tombull89 hah - awesomesauce.

@David n-spire... you mean the 92 in a different case? :P

TheCleaner

I actually answered a question today. yeah me!

now to take @pauska 's advice and upvote request whore that sucker here: serverfault.com/questions/455455/…

:)

Josh Gitlin

9:27 PM

I'm finding that many of my questions are downvoted... I wonder if there's anything I can do to improve them, or if people just don't like my topics? (Examples: 1 2 3 4 5 )

Mark Henderson

@JoshGitlin The ones with overall positive scores, don't worry about. That's just some people being a bit picky because the question doesn't fit with their idea of a good question. They can go fuck themselves. Same for the neutral questions.

Josh Gitlin

@MarkHenderson That's generally been my attitude :-) Thanks

Mark Henderson

The only one with a - score is #5 and that's because the same people who hate your other questions probably hate cpanel too. And to be fair, cpanel isn't a tool most sysadministrators use

Josh Gitlin

Doesn't happen to me on SO, but it does here and sometimes on Arqade

Zoredache

@JoshGitlin don't use OSX or Cpanel?

Josh Gitlin

9:29 PM

@Zoredache yeah, that's what I thought

Michael Hampton

Aside from all the cPanel questions (which I wouldn't have downvoted anyway)...

Josh Gitlin

@MarkHenderson and @Zoredache, unfortunately I have to support cPanel as part of my syadmin responsibilities :-/

Basil

@JoshGitlin All the questions are well written, but cPanel is a taboo around here because of how many non-professionals ask questions about it.

Michael Hampton

@JoshGitlin I'm sorry. On the bright side, we may be able to help you find a better job.

TheCleaner

I only get so many downvotes a day. I try to use them based on username. You just happened to picked today @JoshGitlin ;)

Mark Henderson

9:30 PM

@MichaelHampton I hear Adrian's work is hiring

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson There's only a very short list of my worst enemies I would send there.

Zoredache

@MarkHenderson do you hate @JoshGitlin that much?

Josh Gitlin

while most sysadmins don't use it, many hosting servers have it (mostly for the users) and while I understand people don't like it, they should downvote based on quality not topic... anyway </rant> :-)

@MichaelHampton haha, I would love that

infinity

Any help here: serverfault.com/questions/455443/… would be much appreciated

Josh Gitlin

@Zoredache LOL

Adrian

9:32 PM

@MarkHenderson Heh. The padawan's clue train just arrived. He's looking too.

Michael Hampton

@infinity Get better hosting?

Mark Henderson

@Adrian You were probably the only reason he was staying. I remember when an older nurse at my wife's ward retired, about 1/2 the staff left with her, saying she was the only thing that made the ward bareable

Josh Gitlin

@infinity Same results here, dig works, ping times out. Firewall?

Adrian

@JoshGitlin Needs a tactical nuke.

Michael Hampton

@infinity Seriously. GoDaddy is halfway decent with domain names, but everything else they offer is utter crap.

Josh Gitlin

9:34 PM

Agreed

We use them for domain name registration and I would love to switch away from them. Suggestions welcomed :-)

Adrian

@MarkHenderson Yeah. He's a good kid. Wouldn't surprise me. And he's flexible enough that he can learn Windows on pretty much any help desk as he goes along. He's just having trouble getting in the door because his resume has Linux on it and it scares the Windows-only managers.

He'll do fine though.

@JoshGitlin Host your own?

Josh Gitlin

@Adrian Sorry, that was unclear. I do host my own DNS. I use them as my registrar

Mark Henderson

@JoshGitlin Registrar = enom/namecheap, DNS = dnsmadeeasy.com - those two have never let me down.

Adrian

brb. Lemme go check with my chaperone. She switched to somebody that she really likes.

Michael Hampton

The last time I switched away from GoDaddy, they ended up buying the registrar I'd switched to.

Josh Gitlin

9:36 PM

lmao

And we have a ton of domain names so it would be difficult to switch

Adrian

My "big sister" likes Hover.

Don't ask. You don't want to know.

Josh Gitlin

@Adrian nice, thanks! I will check them out

Adrian

And I fucking hate the new Gmail Iphone app.

The interface was totally written for iPad and it sucks for iPhone now.

I'm becoming seriously unhappy with this iPhone shit. Was fiddling with my Droid1(!) last night and I'd forgotten just how damn usable the apps and interface is.

Mark Henderson

@Adrian But an Android phone will never get you laid

I remember when I got the first iPhone they released here, the 3G, I literally had almost every woman at the place I worked at back then wanted to come and see it and touch it and ask about it. I swear to god, if I hadnt been engaged, it would have got me laid.

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Sure it will.

Mark Henderson

9:44 PM

@MichaelHampton grindr excepted

Michael Hampton

What's grindr?

voretaq7

You know Hungry Hungry Hippos?
grindr is Horny Horny Homos.

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Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Its an app that gay people use to organise a time and place to insert their penises into other random gay dudes

Michael Hampton

I could have lived without knowing that. Thanks guys.

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson s/gay people/"straight" closet cases/

Mark Henderson

9:45 PM

@voretaq7 Best analogy ever

@voretaq7 right right, just until they get a girlfriend. I remember.

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Thank you, I'm rather fond of it myself. I've tried to get grindr marketing to pick up on it and pay me royalties.

Josh Gitlin

@MichaelHampton Welcome to the Internet, the place where you can learn all the things you never wanted to know...

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson (then why do they keep calling me after they have one?!)

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 You should ask their girlfriends, they might be able to find out for you!

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Funny story.... :P

(ProTip: If I know your girlfriend trying to get your fling on with me is probably gonna ruin your relationship)

Mark Henderson

9:48 PM

@voretaq7 Ohh do tell

voretaq7

well that pretty much says it all ^^ :)

Mark Henderson

Haha

Succinct

infinity

@MichaelHampton Yeah I agree but it's my client's hosting not mine

Michael Hampton

@infinity In that case, you tell the client that GoDaddy are fucking morons and if they want their site to work, they should move it elsewhere. Be sure to put lots of emphasis on "fucking" and "morons".

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voretaq7

@MichaelHampton fucking SEXIST morons.

gotta throw that in there to really galvanize the HR types.

Goatmale

9:56 PM

@Adrian Going from whatever was on my Droid X to jelly bean was such a freaking improvement.

Michael Hampton

Fair enough, although, I would debate that point ;-) insofar as I'm just looking for an opinion from someone wiser... is that unfair? (and I removed the comment about discussion in case it was misleading) — Brian 2 mins ago

Goatmale

Everything is more fast and fluid, the "window" button is great, feels like alt tabbing.

Chrome is also really really nice with their other devices tab, I can access my tablet, my phone, my home and work computer from any other device. Which can be a bad thing, depending on who is looking over my shoulder.

Goatmale

10:13 PM

Okay, I stole this from SU, but I still think it's awesome. blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/…

HopelessN00b

Good news, the guy blocked Facebook with an ACL, but at least the employees can still get to all of @ewwhite's former employers. =D

All employees need to be able to have unrestricted access to the internet (I've blocked facebook with an ACL, but other than that, full access)

Does this seem like a good idea to you? The employees can't spend their day figuratively jerking-off on Facebook, but they can literally spend their day jerking off on... well, yeah. That's just begging for a hostile workplace lawsuit too. — HopelessN00b 1 min ago

Mark Henderson

@Goatmale And THAT is why we don't go to Yahoo Answers

Adrian

@Goatmale Cool. This thing isn't slow like my Droid, but the interface is getting unusable.

@MarkHenderson Pfft. I got no problems with the getting laided part. I'm not married, remember. =)

Mark Henderson

fwiw it eventually got a good answer:

au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120112222249AAaEgUu

84104

@HopelessN00b If you were feeling particularly nefarious you could mess with name resolution to have *.facebook.com return the appriate IP for productiveblog.tumblr.com

Mark Henderson

10:18 PM

Honestly, you wouldn't have this problem if you didn't buy a cat. Why don't you take it out of the box
Source(s):
Duh

Goatmale

Physics is fucked up.

HopelessN00b

@Goatmale Just quantum physics.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b All physics is quantum when you get down to it...

Goatmale

Asking yahoo answers about Schrodinger's Cat is like going to Geek Squad with a sysadmin question.

HopelessN00b

@Goatmale Yeah, trolling is hilariously cruel.

Michael Hampton

10:30 PM

@HopelessN00b Weren't you telling me about a SAN from StarWind?

Adrian

The technical chatter is all well and good, but I want to hear more about the Hungry Hungry Homos.

Michael Hampton

@Adrian Someone here is sure to tell your girlfriend about this.

Adrian

@MichaelHampton She's quite aware of my warped sense of humor and my status as a officially-endorsed cabana boy.

Michael Hampton

10:48 PM

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Q: Webserver - Memory-bound or CPU-bound?

I'm installing a social network using Zend Framework & MySql, with lots of plugins & queries. I want Webserver & Sql server on one box. I'm trying to choose between two machines (on hetzner.de): A) intel i7-2600 3.4 GHz 16 GB DDR3 RAM B) intel i7-920 2.6 GHz 24 GB DDR3 RAM B has ...

memory server-setup

Improve or close?

voretaq7

CLOSE ALL THE THINGS!

must resist urge to post snarky comment

How does one "install a social network"? I wasn't aware you could purchase such things in a box

Michael Hampton

I love that one guy said A and the other guy said B.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton Mmhmm, and I said (C) as a CW answer, so y'all can go upvote it without me feeling like a repwhore.

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 apt-get install lamp devops mobile-phone-load-balancing facebooks

Simple!

Michael Hampton

Oh, I am a repwhore, I admit it.

voretaq7

10:55 PM

@WesleyDavid apt-get install the-googles <--?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

apt-get install brain

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton well really that should have been a comment, but I wanted it big and bold above the contradictory info.

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 We have markdown that makes text big and bold. Sometimes it even works right.

voretaq7

@DennisKaarsemaker E: Unable to locate package brain

@MichaelHampton yeah but I can't do line breaks in comments :(

Dennis Kaarsemaker

it's in a ppa

Michael Hampton

10:56 PM

Fucking comments.

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 yum groupinstall facebook-killer if your a RHEL fan

Dennis Kaarsemaker

very underground, you probably haven't heard of it

</hipster>

voretaq7

Bughouse chess

Bughouse chess (also called Exchange chess, Siamese chess, Tandem chess, Transfer chess, Double Bughouse, Cross chess, or simply Bughouse or Bug) is a popular chess variant played on two chessboards by four players in teams of two. Normal chess rules apply, except that captured pieces on one board are passed on to the players of the other board, who then have the option of putting these pieces on their board. The game is usually played at a fast time control; this, together with the passing and dropping of pieces, can make the game look chaotic and random to the casual onlooker; hence the...

^^ Whiskey Tango chess-playing Foxtrot?

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Never heard of bughouse?!

Bughouse is popular in the skittles room of a tourney.

Sometimes it's hard to find people actually playing real chess in there. =P

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