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7:00 PM
@voretaq7 called for something that should have been a quickie
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Just like that. It's really no different than on Linux, at least from a high level. If it's listening on 22, it's working, and waiting for a connection on the default port.

Sounds like his problem was maybe a firewall or something, but probably PEBCAK.
 
@ewwhite called when customer facing systems were still up. That's a "deal with it tomorrow" problem...
 
@voretaq7 well, except I'm the escalation point, I guess... so bleh.
 
or a "Just letting you know in case you want to treat it as urgent" problem
 
@Iain WTF? If that was Linux I'd tell him lsof. Somebody reopen that and point him to SysInternals
 
7:02 PM
@HopelessN00b it's not listening on his public IP address so he probably needs to change the LIstenAddress directive
 
@HopelessN00b No, looking at the comments he says it's listening 127.0.0.1 via netstat.
 
@Iain Oh I see, that comment. Man, was that ever a poorly asked question.
 
@Iain Maybe we can edit & re-open?
 
Good thing SO doesn't migrate crap, or that could have been confusing.
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@JeffFerland if you want to edit it into shape ping me when you're done
 
7:05 PM
@Iain it's in shape! Round is a shape!
 
@voretaq7 turds are round ?
 
@Iain ...sometimes?
 
@Iain Bunnie turds are.
 
@voretaq7 trying the interview again... since I couldn't ask questions
 
@voretaq7 that question - QED
 
7:06 PM
time to GRILL!
 
@voretaq7 Let's play marbles! I'll draw the circle...
 
@voretaq7 not round oblate spheroid
 
@voretaq7 what's going on with the internet?
 
7:09 PM
@Iain Nothing is perfectly round in the real world. Everything is slightly oblate or prolate.
@ewwhite It's collapsing under the weight of its own porn
 
@ewwhite anarchy
 
(idunno, there's a bunch of packet loss jumping around the major North American backbone links)
things seem to be stabilizing again though
 
@ewwhite If you wanna try some ill-advised humor, you could tell the guy that you're very sorry, but it seems that a chunk of the American backbone is being run on SuperMicro servers.
 
@HopelessN00b SHH!
Stop giving away our secrets.
 
:)
 
7:25 PM
you're all welcome...again
 
@MDMarra whut??
someone has WAY too much time on their hands.
 
yup
 
Anyone ever deployed Firefox w/ Software Update GPO?
 
Yes
 
What am I doing wrong if nothing happens on the computer
 
7:28 PM
.............
 
@David NARQ
 
@David something :)
 
Take a step back
And read that
and pretend you're me
How am I supposed to answer that
First of all, where are you getting the .MSI from, because firefox doesn't ship an MSI (unless that's changed)
 
lol
 
ok good
and you have it on a network share?
 
7:30 PM
made a Share on the server for Everyone (read-only)
and when I browsed for it in the GPO settings, \\server\software updates\firefox.msi
rebooted a windows computer that currently has FF 13.0.1 on it
nothing
 
ok what is the ACL for the share permissions and the NTFS permissions?
Also, the Everyone group is a bad choice. I prefer to add Authenticated Users and Domain Computers as the entities in my software deployment shares
 
Does anyone know where System's office is? I need to kick him in the nuts.
 
@MDMarra probably a good idea
Share permissions is: Admins read/write, Authenticated Users read
 
Add Domain Computers to "Read" on that
Actually, I don't like share permissions and always set it to "Everyone: Full" and control it with NTFS permissions - but do whatever's best for your environment
 
added domain computers
 
7:34 PM
and?
 
Anything else to check?
 
Lots of things
like the NTFS permissions to start
 
Is that Properties > Security?
on the shared folder
 
yes
 
auth users (read/exec), domain computers (read/exec)
 
7:37 PM
ok
so try it
and see if it works
 
will do, brb
 
Old NC Post:
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Q: Why don't we see more routing attacks?

The Digital GabegSo, who remembers the whole "Pakistan kills YouTube" debacle from February last year? Here's an article on the topic to refresh your memory: Insecure routing redirects YouTube to Pakistan The gist of the story is that Pakistan intended to block YouTube for their national network. They tried to ...

 
What's wrong with it?
 
@Adrian Because I've been too busy at work to get to it. Sheesh.
 
@MDMarra nothing still
 
7:39 PM
NC?
 
@Aaron not constructive. Polling question, in this case, IMHO.
 
@Aaron Not Constructive
 
@David Did you look at the RSOP and make sure that the GPO is actually applying to the computer? Have you checked the event logs, etc etc.
@Adrian It's really not
 
I dunno about it being polling
 
@Adrian hysterically locked
 
7:40 PM
It's asking about a specific attack that seems to be easy to do again on a larger scale and it asks what is in place to prevent it
@voretaq7 I disagree
 
@MDMarra there's valuable information in the answers
 
Right
I'm saying it shouldn't be closed or locked
Leave it open, it's got an accepted answer and the question is on topic
 
Still seems like it's mostly just soliciting opinions to me.
 
@MDMarra not sure it's on topic, but I've got no objection to unlocking it - I just don't want to see it closed (and eventually deleted by wayward souls who just see closed as a stepping stone to deletion)
 
@MDMarra it looks like its not for some reason
 
7:42 PM
@David Have you run gpupdate?
You know that by default, group policy only refreshes every 90 minutes, right?
 
@MDMarra multiple times
 
Well, that's your problem
 
hrmm?
 
use gpresult /H and rsop.mmc to figure out why the policy isn't applying
And then fix that
 
on the client?
 
7:44 PM
Ya
 
@voretaq7 Got the guy on the phone directly. Much better.
 
There are ways for either of those to be run remotely too
 
he's not bad...
 
@voretaq7 It's about a specific type of attack though
 
@ewwhite man an interview over skype... bleh
 
7:45 PM
I know we hate DDOS questions, for example, but the really good ones that aren't halp!halp! are still on topic, right?
 
@MDMarra is rsop.mmc something I need to DL/install?
 
What's the OS
I don't remember if it ships as part of Windows 7 or if you need to install RSAT
 
@MDMarra true -- I'll unlock it but let me know if it winds up closed 'cuz I'll re-lock it so it doesn't get deleted
 
@Iain Edit is grayed out. Migrated questions really need to stop being so damn special when closed.
 
The RSOP console is definitely installed on a domain controller though. Worst case you can run it from there and evaluate a remote computer with it
 
7:46 PM
@JeffFerland they should just immediately disappear from the target site when closed -- this whole having them half-existing thing sucks.
What's the link again? if I reopen it the question will lose its magical specialness
 
@JeffFerland I think that's because it's a failed migration - you could always nip over to SO and fix it
 
@Iain yeah but can they send it back if we're trying to salvage it? I think that creates "strangeness"
 
erm, dunno, perhaps it'll create a rift in space-time and suck SO into it
 
@MDMarra Win 7, yeah. Also, it's not showing at all in the gpresult
not accepted, not denied
 
Well, then you have a problem
 
7:49 PM
@Iain The third law of the perversity of the universe says the rift would just spew more crap questions.
 
Guess I'll run for Serverfault mod this year.
 
@David Are you sure the GPO is linked to the correct OU and that the computer you're testing on is actually in that OU?
And are you sure that the GPO is enabled if it's linked in the right place?
 
lemme try something here
 
@JeffFerland I don't think we're due another this year
 
Oh, wow, I don't even know who the 2009 guys are.
 
7:53 PM
what happens if the system already has FF 16.0.1 and its a software deployment?
My VM already has it, and its sitting at "Please wait..." for a long time before login
 
@JeffFerland Yeah, they aren't around much anymore.
 
@David I don't know what you mean
Do you mean "what happens if my machine already has 16.0.1 on it and it tried to reinstall it with software deployment?"
 
i dont know if it tried to re-install it
 
@ShaneMadden splatne is about but doesn't talk. If I'm not about he often picks up the flags
 
@David It will try
 
7:54 PM
it just sat at the "Please Wait..." before allowing me to login for a few mins
 
If you manually install something and then assign a GPO deployment of the same thing it will try and reinstall
 
Now it says in Firefox > About
 
wow... ok so now Europe is starting to have funky interwebs
maybe the internet really IS collapsing?
 
Updates disabled by your system administrator
 
@voretaq7 HURRICANEPOCOLYPSE
 
7:56 PM
@Iain Yeah, I've seen some mod actions from him recently. I think mrdenny's pretty much abandoned us for DBA.SE though.
 
@David The frontmotion MSI usually has that pre-configured
so it sounds like it worked
 
@MDMarra ah
lemme go try it on the machine that has 13.0.1
 
@MDMarra Hey, isn't that storm heading kinda close to the AWS datacenter? :D
 
If I were you, I'd turn on Verbose Logon Messages in GPO. Then you can see exactly what's happening during startup, including software installs
 
@ShaneMadden dba.SE is more fun.
@MDMarra they don't get those.
 
7:56 PM
Coming this week: Reddit offline: hurricane. Still not using more than one availability storm. No kitten pics for you today.
 
@voretaq7 Indeed
 
@David The first thing I do with a new domain is make a policy and link it at the domain level. Name it "Verbose Logon" and enable Verbose Logon Messages.
 
@ShaneMadden I don't see hum much and Sam handed back his ♦ earlier in the summer
 
@JeffFerland 's not the hurricane (yet, I don't think...unless reddit is on one of the islands...)
 
@voretaq7 That was a future-focused comment.
 
7:59 PM
@MDMarra the first thing I do with a new domain is replace all the machines with Unix workstations :-P
@JeffFerland NO PROGNOSTICATING. You'll wind up like those NWS guys!
 
@voretaq7 They're fun to hang out with.
 
@JeffFerland they're drunkards.
 
Did you know that there's a base weather model in Python and every office tweaks the code to match their own geography?
 
@JeffFerland do you know what it was before it was python? :)
 
@voretaq7 An egg! :D ... no, I don't. COBOL?
 
8:01 PM
@Iain Yeah. Adding one or two mods when the election comes up in January will probably be good.
 
@JeffFerland Perl I think actually
 
@voretaq7 have fun managing that shit with puppet.
 
@MDMarra hurts less than GPOs :)
 
@MDMarra now it still wont work on the 13.0.1 PC
my VM is a domain admin, but i dont know why a regular user wouldnt have access
it doesnt show at all in gpresult
 
Your VM is a domain admin? What?
 
8:06 PM
nvm its there in GPresult
just under Denied GPOs, reason denied: empty
 
Are you using a computer policy or a user policy for this? You should be using a computer policy.
 
@MDMarra the user I login to my VM with is a Domain Admin
computer
there has to be some odd reason why it worked on my VM and not on the other computer...
it even shows up under Denied GPOs on my VM, except it installed...
 
What's installed?
Are you sure it actually worked?
Are you sure you didn't install the frontmotion MSI by hand on your test machine?
 
you said it worked, as my FF 16.0.1 now says "Updates disabled by your administrator"
yes
 
And you didn't install frontmotion by hand on that box?
 
8:12 PM
no
 
then you have a strange issue
 
a ton of my working GPOs are under Denied GPOs
like my WSUS GPO, one I have to control a scheduled MSE scan...
 
Seems like you have a problem then
 
Drive maps
but they all work...
except the firefox one
 
If they're in denied, they're not applying
Sift through the event log
I'm headed home, later people
 
@Chopper3 . . .
stories about lesbians on horses, or lesbian horses? THE PUNCTUATION IS IMPRECISE! I MUST KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
 
eats shoots and leaves
 
@Iain 🐼Panda 🐼Panda 🐼Panda
 
@voretaq7 indeed
 
Pandas are inherently violent!
"That jacket is a fashion sin. Let's get rid of it for you."
 
8:24 PM
the hell...?
i'm getting a "user profile service failed the logon. user profile cannot be loaded" for a specific user
on a specific computer, but they can login to another computer
 
what's the name of the software company that shares owner/foundership with SE?
@markhenderson interviewed there.
 
their C:\Users\Username is completely empty
 
Fog Horn software?
Leg Horn software?
 
@ewwhite fog creek
 
I was close...
 
8:30 PM
 
What is ghettoVCB?
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Q: Force ESX(i) to check the consistency of your bootbank/boot.cfg

jshin47I recall once copying a bad tgz file to my bootbank and specifying to load it in boot.cfg. Needless to say this was bad - Purple Screen of Death, no boot, bad - and I should have been more careful. But is there a way to check the consistency of your files in boot.cfg, as in simulating what would ...

any why would someone use it?
 
Anyone ever encountered this
all the solutions google is giving dont work/dont exist
 
@HopelessN00b Try selling that to management.
 
@ewwhite gVCB. And if you're still using ESX 3.5/4.0 at this point in time... well, I'm thinking cost savings might be king at your workplace.
Well, not spending money until the business collapses on account of everything in IT failing at once.
 
8:38 PM
maybe...
@ewwhite, it's absolutely unsupported, but I was just wondering if there is a consistency checking program in ESXi as it must do something like this when it is booting to figure out it cannot boot... — jshin47 26 secs ago
 
nobody?
 
Personally, my consistency check would be "re-image the ESXi box"
 
Is that like opening your iPhone and being salty that it doesn't work once you've reassembled it (and brushed-away the leftover parts)?
 
@David Usually that's a problem accessing the profile. Did it log you in under the default profile? Is that empty profile directory not writable to the user? Can you delete it?
 
@ShaneMadden It just gives the error then logs off
the solutions on google say to go to regedit and find ProfileList and their SID
but there is no SID for that user
 
8:49 PM
@David Sounds like a question.
 
i need it fixed ASAP :(
im off in 10
 
@ewwhite FogCreek shares foundership/ownership with SE? You sure? I thought it was more of a Jeff and Joel being "tight" situation.
 
@David Great! Some of us are available to respond to emergencies at very reasonable rates, $250/hr or less. Might be a 2-hour minimum.
@David Of course, you could draw on our expertise for free. That's pretty amazing, when you think about it.
 
@MilesErickson Speak for yourself. I'm only available to deal with emergencies at very un reasonable rates. Just ask my current employer. :)
 
@David However, I am not sure that "please help me for free, O community" and "I need it now" go together.
 
8:52 PM
@MilesErickson nothing is free. One day your core router will prick its fiber on a spinning wheel...
 
@HopelessN00b I'm not quite speaking for myself: I forgot to mention that I currently don't work on Fridays.
 
@MilesErickson Somebody should dig up this question posted yesterday in response to this...
 
@voretaq7 I don't think I'm inclined to argue that anything in the world, except possibly asking a question on StackExchange, is free.
 
^^
hi everyone; been a while
 
Hey everyone! It's @hobodave!
 
8:54 PM
@hobodave Greetings!
 
I have an urgent need: witty sayings
of the format: "When you write bad code ... [fill this in]"
e.g. God kills a kitten
but it must be clean and work-friendly :)
and no it's not really urgent :P
 
@hobodave "When you write bad code, it reflects poorly on your reputation. Unless you work at Microsoft."
 
@hobodave When you write bad code I WILL RIP YOUR LUNGS OUT AND HANG THEM ON THE WALL AS A TROPHY!
 
lol
 
@voretaq7 Clearly, you don't work at Microsoft. ;-)
 
8:57 PM
@MilesErickson oh
oh at Microsoft it's very different
 
@MilesErickson This is true. Not pissing off a Principal Staff Member there is far more important. You can suck massively as long as you're not causing a Principal any grief.
 
At Microsoft if you write bad code you get promoted and a massive raise!
 
@hobodave When you write bad code SEGFAULT
 
@voretaq7 Especially if one of the Principals likes you.
 
8:58 PM
@voretaq7 That one did cross my mind as I was typing.
 
@hobodave "When you write bad code, make sure you ask about compile time errors on StackOverflow and then vote to migrate it to ServerFault because I think Error 9 error C2374: 'CPUInfo' means it's a server issue with your networks and IPs and DDoS's."
 
I like SEGFAULT
so far I have two
"a kitten is killed and eaten.", and "SEGFAULT"
 
@hobodave Y U NO LIKE LUNG RIPPING?
 
because I'm writing the code :)
 
To write bad code is human. To write bad code on the production server is DevOps.
 
9:01 PM
I paraphrased the beginning of the sentence
maybe that was a bad idea
 
@hobodave Don't write bad code!
 
I'm writing in PHP a portion of this application that will generate syntactically correct Ruby based on user input
 
@hobodave HAH!
 
it's laughably ridiculous but we're going to try it
it will be read and run by a human
and I want to make them laugh
 
@hobodave Huh?
 
9:02 PM
it literally says: When you generate Ruby code with PHP <?= $randomPhrase ?>
 
When you write bad code you will have to rewrite bad code.
 
@84104 To write bad code is human. To go live with bad code is to be a developer. To auto-deploy bad code to all your AWS instances is DevOps.
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@hobodave Ah, now, THAT makes sense.
 
^FTFY
 
that's why the lung ripping doesn't work :)
 
9:03 PM
@hobodave What sort of user input?
 
just basic strings
 
@hobodave How does that lead to Ruby?
 
I'm generating Ruby
 
I, the user, enter a basic string, and you generate Ruby.
 
make me a coffee generates what ruby ?
 
9:04 PM
a user fills out a basic form in my app, which gets "processed" into Ruby which is submitted in the body of a ticket to another department
that dept would like to just copy/paste the code from the ticket
 
This sounds like a horrific kludge.
 
i'd like to make them laugh in the process
thanks
 
Understandably so.
 
more sayings
we both know it's ridiculous
 
@Iain I think that gets translated into CoffeeScript.
 
9:06 PM
Have you ever said to youself I need a family internet filter that checks to see if a debugger is connected to it because I don't want my kids hacking it? code.google.com/p/vstimetracker
 
"When you generate Ruby code with PHP, an ugly duckling lays a golden egg."
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lol
 
Yes the man is a "true christian" TM, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't homeschool: soft-haus.com/blog/about
 
@MilesErickson s/ lays a golden egg/ hatches/
 
@MilesErickson Now is that gen_ruby() or genRuby(), and on failure does it return 0 , false or null?
 
9:08 PM
ooh is there a suitable xkcd for the scenario I'm describing, that could be one of the phrases
 
"Here is your Ruby. Would you like a code injection vulnerability with that?"
 
or
, Bobby Tables wins! xkcd.com/327
 
@hobodave Hey, by the way, it sounds an awful lot like you need a new job. Word is @ewwhite is hiring.
 
I don't at all need a new job
quite happy where I'm at
 
@hobodave Best XKCD ever.
 
@voretaq7 Hehehe. I loved that trailer. Never saw the film though.
 
$phrases = array(
    'a kitten is killed and eaten.',
    'SEGFAULT.',
    'an ugly duckling lays a golden egg.',
    'Bobby Tables wins.',
    'http://xkcd.com/327/',
    'Armageddon draws closer.',
    'everyone loses.'
);
 
@hobodave "Vista. 'nuff said?"
 
haha
 
SO
 
9:16 PM
@voretaq7 win! added
 
@Iain LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JENKINS!
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@voretaq7 that's certainly right up there with the internet filter software I found. You win one internet
 
@JustinDearing is wining an internet a good thing ?
 
@Iain is porn a good thing?
 
depends
 
9:20 PM
@JustinDearing Just think of all the gay barnyard porn you won... :p
 
@HopelessN00b you can't trick me into google for gay barnyard porn!
 
@HopelessN00b Random Trivia: 1-800-COW-DUNG is a porn line.
@JustinDearing Brokeback Mountain?
 
Careful. Make it sound like a challenge and I'll start hyperlinking a Google search on gay barnyard porn everywhere... just for you.

Could be a lot of collateral damage.
 
@voretaq7 THAT HAD A PLOT!!! so it didn't count.
@HopelessN00b go ahead'
 
9:30 PM
@JustinDearing ... get drunk and bend over is a plot?
 
@voretaq7 More of a plot than straight porn has.
 
@voretaq7 honestly I haven't seen it.
 
@JustinDearing And now, thanks to that spoiler of voretaq's you don't need to.
 
@HopelessN00b see how well that worked out. Thank you @voretaq7 for giving me another hour to reddit
 
Wheee! I'm testing FF16 installed on Ubuntu 9.10 at 2:30pm on a Friday.
 
9:34 PM
Anyhoo... I'm off to the most exciting Friday night I've had in ages - getting paid a small mountain of money to migrate a bunch of production systems to a new SAN and blade chassis - without working backups or a functional DR plan.
Don't wait up, kiddies! :D
 
@HopelessN00b and you didn't require that they make a backup or pay you to build a backup system first?
 
@HopelessN00b I hope you have huge disclaimers in your contract
 
Yeah, that sounds very much like juggling lit sticks of dynamite.
 
@Zoredache Oh, it's built... just hasn't made it's way through their change management process, so it's not used yet.
Also a fun Friday night, just not as profitable.

Anyway, I really am out. You can marvel at my genius/bravery without my for a while now. =)
 
@HopelessN00b does the person in charge of the change management system have a propeller desk?
 
9:38 PM
@HopelessN00b meh - you'll still be here when I get up tomorrow
 
ok I'm headed to Harrisburg Pennsylvania
 
@JustinDearing propeller desk ?
@JustinDearing ooh globe trotter - how was London ?
 
@Iain London was good, so was he weekend in Cambridge
 
Harrisburg is sure to disappoint, then.
 
it was apparently commencement on saturday so I saw robes walking through the street
robes riding bicycles
 
9:42 PM
@JustinDearing Sorry this video is not available in your location
 
@Iain the episode when the Jamacian bureaucrat has to sort all the tubs to get benders chip back
 
@JustinDearing Jamaican? I thought he was some kind of outer-space potato man
 
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Q: Can I run a VM on the host VMware vSphere Hyper

user1778236Can i install VMware vSphere Hyper-visor on my PC, then run and operate a VM (with Win7) on that same unit and monitor?

 
Gah!
WhoTF at SO thought that was remotely worthy of staying open even on SF?
 
9:59 PM
@Adrian Joe, NULL, PaulG, ЯegDwight and Bo Persson
 
@voretaq7 Can you add that question to the idiotic migration example on mSO?
 
FFS
@Adrian there is a idiotic migrations ?
 

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