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12:01 AM
@ShaneMadden It's been 18TB for free for awhile now.
 
Is that 18TB of disks, or 18TB of usable space?
 
@ewwhite Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
They were undercharging for some time... so they adjusted prices to meet market demand. And @MichaelHampton, that's 18TB usable.
The rationale was that beyond 18TB, you should be paying for a license/contract, given that there's an investment in hardware as well.
 
Aha, for some reason I thought it was just 18TB of disks. Maybe I'll put one of those here in the house, then.
 
12:03 AM
> Production use is not allowed with Community edition. It is designed and intended to help people become familiar with the product or for hobbiest use.
 
Yeah, that's shady.
 
Then the chart a little further down spelling out the different editions.
 
@ewwhite I upvoted the answer because Nexenta really does play fast and loose with their licensing. Not cool.
They're not the bastions of open source friendliness that I think they like to project.
 
@WesleyDavid The person writing the answer is from datacore.com
 
@ewwhite I know, but he's also correct. =P
 
12:04 AM
@ShaneMadden "Getting my PHB familiar with the product by running it on our 'server' (not 'production') network."
 
Nobody said anything about free...
 
@ewwhite I flagged it to be put as a response to your comment. He may be a competitor to Nexentawhore, but he's also right
 
@HopelessN00b Nexentawhore. My inner pre-teen likes that.
 
and yeah, I think people should pay... My Nexenta licenses cost $, but so does the hardware to do it right.
I dunno... we pay for VMWare and others... but maybe the Nexenta EULA is fucked up.
I'll tweet this to @nexenta
 
@ewwhite I don't mind the paying, it's the ceaseless effing around with the terms that bothers me, honestly. Dunno if that's different for people who bought licenses, though.
 
12:08 AM
@HopelessN00b I don't know. Have the terms changed much?
 
That statement was there the last time I looked at Nexenta a couple of months ago.
 
We'll see what Nexenta says... because I've put lots of community edition systems out there.
 
@MichaelHampton Could be they stopped. A while back I noticed the EULA changing thrice in short order, and that really put me off.
And speaking of you, you have really boring dreams, even for a porcupine.
I could do this in my sleep, but explaining it is way too broad for a Server Fault Q&A. Please see the FAQ for guidance on what sorts of questions we can reasonably answer here. — Michael Hampton 1 hour ago
 
@ewwhite Dun Dun DUNNNN
 
this is why twitter is handy
 
12:11 AM
It's a wiki, so I just looked at the revision history. It was added in revision 84, on April 9, 2012.
@HopelessN00b Doing work in my sleep means more billable hours!
 
@ewwhite oracle did the same to the solaris express (renamed to solaris developer blah bleh something), not allowed in any kind of production usage
so the only choice now is to use some kind of illumos distro or freebsd..
I'm testing nas4free right now.. looks promising
 
@MichaelHampton I'll have to remember that one. Could come in handy at trial one of these days... :D
 
@MichaelHampton slick
 
Though... it's also a wiki, so that is legally meaningless. Who knows what the EULA said before then.
The EULA actually says:
> The Community Edition may ONLY be used for educational, academic and other non-commercial purposes expressly excluding any commercial usage.
Unfortunately the Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have a copy.
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Q: Windows, NetBeans: Where's the php.ini?

Eric J.I have been away from PHP for quite a while, so hopefully this is a simple oversight. But, I am not able to include the MySQL extension. Setup Windows 8 Pro 64-bit NetBeans 7.2.1 (Built-in PHP Web Server) MySQL PHP 5.4.8 Problem Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() Att...

 
12:27 AM
@MichaelHampton Windows 8 Pro 64-bit - not even a server OS?
 
@gparent Hi, still around?
 
@ShaneMadden It's a developer, setting up his own developer workstation.
 
@gparent if not, as Shog said, reply to the team@ e-mail with the right netblocks or update the meta question if you prefer. If we start seeing blog spam from there again though, I'll have to close it back up. They were literally hammering the crap out of blogoverflow; there was over a hundred spam comments left on the blog from that netblock.
 
@MichaelHampton Boom, killshot!
 
When you're doing bgp, and you want to have a netblock be redundant, do you advertise the prefix from both of your routers simultaneously to both upstream routers?
(Assuming your provider has given you two seperate subnets with two seperate ip's to use bgp upon)
 
12:32 AM
@MichaelHampton Yeah, and it's a problem with an IDE, not even web server software on his local system. @Shog9 This is why a feedback loop is needed. 4 of the 5 votes came from users with under 10k rep on SO - they can't be expected to have any idea of what's on topic here, they're just clicking through /review for a badge.
 
On a similarly on-topic query, I can't get my Cisco router to pick up DHCP. Should I post a question about that on ServerFault?
 
@HopelessN00b Is it at home or at work?
 
@MichaelHampton It's where I am presently working from. :)
 
Ooh, evasion. VOTE TO CLOSE
 
Yes, the lines do get blurred sometimes for some of us.
OK, so is it something you'd see in a business environment if sane people were running things?
 
12:34 AM
@HopelessN00b if you ask it on ServerFault, and leave out any inkling that it's from a home system, I'm sure it's passable.
 
Lemme get the model number, that always helps. EA3500. =D
 
TO SUPERUSER WITH YOU
 
@HopelessN00b Nope, HOME ROUTER, GTFO
 
You wanker
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@PeterGrace There it is!
 
12:35 AM
Also, guys, I love GNS3.
Just sayin'
 
I think I might try some troubleshooting before running off to SuperUser. Maybe I'll plug something into this weird slot I see. Anyone know where I can find a "BUS" cable?
My bad, USB. It must be a coin operated thing... I'll go get a dime.
 
@HopelessN00b Stop by subway too, you might need something to attach to your SUB port
 
One of these days I'll take a picture of my "core network". It'll certainly be good for a laugh.
 
Wow, when you run 4 dynamips processes on a 4 proc machine, things get real slow
ah, idlepc was not selected
 
@ShaneMadden Oh, right I could have it upside down. It's an 85∩ port.
On a serious note, what kind of #$&$s expect you to use USB A to USB A cables these days? >:/
 
12:44 AM
@PeterGrace Hey there
I have the blocks that my provider uses, if any of the IPs that are spamming are in there I could warn them directly
96.47.226.56/29
96.47.230.32/27
96.47.230.64/27
2607:ff48:1:2::/64
 
OK, so I can't get wireless working at home because 1) ISP gave me a PoS "Arris" brand cable modem/router thing that links the wireless key to the router password 2) Cisco seems to expect that you'll have a male USB A to male USB A cable lying around 3) someone at work borrowed my male USB A to male USB A cable without telling me.

I'm having a real hard time deciding who I should be most pissed off at.
Screw it, I'm off to frag something on the PC. This internet thing's just a fad anyway.
 
USB cable for.. wireless..?
 
No, for his crappy Linksys home router.
@HopelessN00b I'm just gonna say this once. It will help you determine who to kill first.
Ethernet
 
1:01 AM
It's Cisco. You have to use their freaking PoS wizard, which can't seem to figure out that I set me internal network to a 172.25 s'net, or that my work laptop isn't set to auto-join every unsecured network it can find.

That thing's going back to the store, if I can resist the urge to throw it in the pond.
Oh, and the first thing the wizard trying to do? Download updates. That's a nifty feature for something you have to set up to access your internet connection, you stupid wankers.
 
@HopelessN00b Can I interest you in some nice DD-WRT?
 
@MichaelHampton Hmmm... I was so clouded by Cisco-rage, I didn't even think of that. Wonder if it works on this model. To teh g00glez!
 
Actually I'm running OpenWrt Attitude Adjustment on one of my routers now. It seems much more... uh... what's the word i want...
 
less crappy?
desuckified?
 
Less Linksys-y.
 
1:06 AM
ARGH
LDAP login why don't you work
 
Active directory?
 
Honestly, this is the first Linksys thing I bought since they became Cisco. :( It's... um, quite a different beast now, isn't it?
@JoelESalas Balmer knows you're not using AD and he's pissed?
 
@HopelessN00b Not really, it's still a red-headed stepchild in the company.
 
@MichaelHampton Maybe it was just me, or I'm confux0red, but didn't Linksys used to be... well, decent? (I certainly had less problems with it than Netgear or any other SOHO kit.)
 
@HopelessN00b Eh, they were average, I suppose. Then again average was about the best you could get at the consumer level, which is why people went off and wrote their own firmware in the first place.
I can hardly remember a time when the first thing I didn't do with a home router was replace its firmware, never having even attempted to use whatever the factory put on it.
 
1:12 AM
@MichaelHampton Alright, that makes sense then. Went from average/best-in-class to usable only by retards.
 
@HopelessN00b Right. It just hasn't gotten any better since then. And it appears to have gotten slightly worse.
 
@MichaelHampton Slightly? Try massively. At least you used to be able to get into a web UI and configure the damn thing. No more. This is either going into the pond tonight, or back to the store tomorrow.
 
There's no web interface?!
 
@MichaelHampton No. Punch the ip into a browser, and all you get is a "ease of use" wizard that fucks it all up if you don't have default/expected luser-style configs.
And no DD-WRT compatibility. So, a burial at sea, or back from whence it came.
Meaning I gotta do some damned research and figure out which model to get that's both good and has or supports reasonable firmware. >:/
 
Ew, the web interface is "cloud"b ased.
 
1:21 AM
that too, but I can't even get that far. :/
 
Buffalo routers have always been good to me.
 
woohoo openwrt
 
Yep, and Attitude Adjustment is shaping up really nicely.
Besides, what's not to like about a router that, when you ssh into it, it prints out a mixed drink recipe?
 
@MichaelHampton OK, Microcenter doesn't have any Buffalo routers... but that sounds like it might be worth waiting for. Tell me about this alcohol-enabling router. Namely where to buy it
 
1:42 AM
@HopelessN00b openwrt.org
And, fork MicroCenter. Every time I think of going there, the travel time plus the taxes they add on make it just not worth it, over waiting for a package from newegg.
(The nearest MicroCenter is an hour away, when there's no traffic...and when there's no traffic in Boston is the middle of the night...)
 
My Microcenter is about 5 minutes away from home, or 10 from work, so... it is convenient. Plus openbox specials and the like make it as cheap or cheaper than Newegg... so I go there a fair bit, especially for stuff I don't wanna wait for.
 
Yeah, and I also have to leave New Hampshire and cross into Taxachusetts...
So it's just almost always not a good value for me. Now, maybe, if I'm already in Boston for something else...
 
@MichaelHampton Yeah, setting foot in that horrible state is more than enough to make it not worthwhile, forget the rest of the stuff.
 
Right, exactly. I've been to Massachusetts about three times in the last five years.
 
Poor soul. I think that's more frequent than I've been back to the socialist hellhole I came from.
 
1:51 AM
I'm not counting the several times I just passed through without stopping...
 
Definitely more frequent, then. Pretty sure driving through counts as "setting foot in," and either way, is also hazardous to your mental health.
 
Oh, I managed to find a one-way, dead-end street in Boston once. Getting out of that was fun...
 
I love that crap. A testament to the nothing government can't screw up.

Really, how do you screw up a road??? But someone in government found a way...
 
Hm, which reminds me...gotta dig through my browser cache for this..
 
Anyone have experience with zfsonlinux.org
Any horny balls have thoughts on the LLNL port of ZFS? pokes @ChrisS and @voretaq7
 
2:01 AM
@HopelessN00b Even Google can't figure out Boston:
 
@MichaelHampton That's the Tron version of Google Maps.
 
@WesleyDavid kernel panic is easier to achieve other ways.
 
@WesleyDavid It's on the list of things to try one of these days.
 
evenin' @WesleyDavid
 
@Adrian Herrow.
Oh, @Adrian, you remind me. I need to shove off and get to some studyin'
Or rather, close a few windows and change focus from trawling through eBay and crack a book open
 
2:05 AM
Yeah, was planning on doing so today. Ended up spending 4 hours digging through mail logs and grapping through maildirs
Someone was sending harassing messages to staff accounts and so I got to dig through 4 million emails looking for past occurrences.
6-spindle Raid10 on 1st Gen SATA drives. Just brutal
 
@Adrian Nice. copy them into a RAM disk first?
@Adrian Guess not. =P
 
@WesleyDavid Yeah, would've taken an hour just to do that. About 300GB of mail nowadays and no hardware to do the job with.
But I got to play around with awk and Bash for a couple hours.
 
"What was the highest iops system you ever designed?"
"200,000 iop distributed memcachd volume in volatile memory."
"WOW, social media startup?"
"Nope. Grepping through exim mailboxes."
@Adrian Well heck.
 
Ended up grepping for the offending email address in the mail logs and then grepping through the mailboxes of all the accounts that received messages from that address
 
@Adrian Did you at least locate the moron?
 
2:10 AM
Had a really sweet 90-term regex that matches all the Postfix transactions that matched that address.
@HopelessN00b Oh, we know who it is. It's a matter of tracking down all the evidence.
So I got to use awk, sed, xargs, and for loops. Not bad really. Almost went and wrote it in Python, but they kept pestering me every 5 minutes wanting updates so I couldn't concentrate enough to use a real language.
 
Any indication of why they'd be dumb enough to do it in such a traceable manner? (That's what I always find perplexing about those kind of cases.)
 
@HopelessN00b Non-technical people. They wouldn't know how to do that anyway.
Speaking of that. I should spend some quality time with Python.
Since SE clearly doesn't care about such things as data cleanliness, I think I'll take a siesta for a few weeks from any more vigorous participation.
 
Sure, but still... sending an email from *their* account doesn't strike these folks an an inherently easy way to get caught? I mean, I get that they don't understand the magical boxes that make the pretty colors, but they don't understand... I mean, how can you not get something that basic?

"This email came from you. We know, because, like every damned email you send, it has your name and account on it!!!"
 
@HopelessN00b You assume that they care. The crazy eyes don't necessarily care about that so much.
 
@Adrian Oh, one of those. If you get to be there to present the evidence/secure IT assets/watch them get escorted out, bring a taser with you. For protection and/or entertainment.
 
2:23 AM
@HopelessN00b Even better, it's an outsider. I had lots of fun tracing that all down through weeks of logs.
That's annoying. CentOS Universe repository package for MboxGrep is a .Deb file
 
@Adrian Ugh, my condolences.
 
@HopelessN00b Are you kidding? I haven't had that much fun in weeks. I been putzing around QA'ing Ubuntu 12.04 and its new application releases for months.
I don't get to spend more than a few days a month doing interesting things.
 
@Adrian Anything to get out of working with Ubuntu, huh?
 
@HopelessN00b Anything to be doing real sysadmin work.
Half my job involves Googling for workaround for all the Unity/Gnome interface bugs.
I spent half a day 6 months ago writing a script that would loop through all the Firefox Registry files in the agency and set the home page to the intranet since it was decided that non-standard start pages wouldn't be allowed any longer.
 
@Adrian: hate to ask, but why not go for another DE?
 
2:27 AM
what's a DE? Not familiar with that acronym
 
@Adrian Must be laziness or Windows-ness, but that problem to me is solved with started the search, results in 24-48 hours, GTFO until then.
 
Desktop environment
 
@HopelessN00b I had roughly 4 hours max to come back with results. With the age of our equipment, it was a bit tight. Our mail server is on its 2nd deployment and it's about 5 years old now.
 
considering you're working off utterly crap hardware xdce or lxde would work better and they arn't redesigning everything
 
@JourneymanGeek What's not love about something called helldesk?
 
2:30 AM
@JourneymanGeek Nope, the DE must be social-worker friendly, ie. complete computer neophytes.
We pay for crap, so we get the social workers who quit the state when the state went computerized and they can't afford to not work anymore, so they end up with us.
 
@Adrian Oh, alright, that's understandable then. But my solution would have been to laugh and walk away.
 
@HopelessN00b I worked there about 10 years ago too. So quite a few of my friends are still there. Makes it tougher to walk away and leave them hanging.
But it's getting easier every day.
 
@Adrian: LXDE is very windows like
XFCE is gnomelike
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but then I'd have to spend another 6 months warming the boss up to the idea of a completely new DE that he's never heard of and put up with him flip-flopping 8-9 times before he resigns himself to it.
And really, I'm kind of tired of that.
 
2:36 AM
I've been doing half his job for him for 3 years. He can have the joys of breaking in a completely new sysadmin.
 
I think thats the real issue
 
@JourneymanGeek Yes, but it's always been a problem with that boss. He's so far in over his head that I don't know if he knows what he doesn't know, and he's terribly afraid of losing face over the slightest thing.
So yeah, job-hunting is proceeding apace.
 
Good thing I have a jiggerbutt network end to end.
goes back to slinging the jiggerbutts across the wires
 
A competent manager would just do whatever I told him to do.
 
2:59 AM
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Q: Process for configuring network settings on a headless rack mount device

PherricOxideI'm with a small company that plans to sell a rack mounted network appliance which is configurable via a web interface (think of a router configuration page sort of deal), and I'm wondering in large data center like environments what the process usually is for the initial setup of such systems. T...

 
@MichaelHampton Okay SF, you're not warning me when someone posts an answer while I'm writing one. >_<
Either that or he and I hit submit at the same time.
Go vote my answer, my avatar is cuter.
Okay @Adrian, what's the study plan like these days?
 
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Q: USB key to pass password in Centos 6

AndrewI had a room mate that put a livecd in my desktop and looked around on my machine. I caught him in the act and threw him out. I haven't had a room mate for a while now and so as to avoid the livecd issue again I encrypted the hard drive, the machine is running centos 6.3. Is there anyway that I...

Cool story bro
 
@WesleyDavid It's pretty much Python practice. And some RHEL studying when I get bored. My RHEL book is still buried in my storage unit, so it's online studying at the moment.
 
@Adrian The Michael Jang book?
 
@WesleyDavid yeah. It's the RHCSA/RHCE combo book though
 
3:10 AM
@Adrian Right, that's the one I have. I've got the PDFs of it off the official CD, so since you already own it, I can send it to you in good conscience. =)
 
Oh, I have the PDFs too.
That book bores the living fsck out of me most of the time, so I've been in no hurry to dig it out.
 
@Adrian Pain is weakness exiting the body.
And yes, I'm in the kickstarter section trying to figure out what the test wants me to know about it, and I find myself weighing the relative disadvantages to shoving a pencil in my eye.
 
Yeah. I need to mess with kickstarter more too. I was almost ready to start digging into that when the boss did his most recent flip-flop and decided to scrap everything and go Windows.
 
No biggie, you'll have to actually kickstart a machine, or debug a broken kickstart file, and you'll have the docs there.
And, I admit I haven't read that particular book, but it's relatively straightforward to put together a kickstart file. Relatively. :)
 
@GrassleyDeer
I was harmless. But Chuck needed to farm.
14 tweets, 153 followers, following 0 users
^ I don't even.
Okay, coffee deployed, RedHat test system launched, PDF opened. Let's do this thing.
 
3:21 AM
@MichaelHampton Ugh, that sucks. I was hoping someone had gotten off their ass and done something that would allow me to unlock the system drive with keyfiles or the like.
Damn developers.
 
Oh, and one more piece of advice: CHEAT. When you install a Red Hat box, it leaves you a nice file /root/anaconda-ks.cfg which is a valid kickstart file representing the installation you just completed.
@HopelessN00b There's actually some half-finished code for it, but we lost interest. (Yes, I was actually involved in this...)
If I can ever be bothered to pick it up again, maybe I'll finish it off (and it'll get picked up for EL7)...
 
@MichaelHampton What on Earth made you lose interest? Seems like a piece of code you could either make the world a better place with and/or make a nice little sum off of.
 
@MichaelHampton Yeah, I'd assumed that wasn't actually cheating but an intended part of the design.
 
Probably getting laid off. That was around 2005-ish...
 
evenin' @Chopper3.
 
3:27 AM
can't sleep
 
@Adrian Yes, it's intended. I'm just saying you take your nice kickstart file and use it as a starting point, like Red Hat intended.
 
@MichaelHampton Ah. I figured anybody building them completely from scratch was mental anyway.
 
@MichaelHampton Oh, well, that would do it. Hell, that makes me wonder what's so hard about it... wonder if I could do something like that for TrueCrypt. Or why someone else hasn't already. Time to go bug them about that, I guess...
 
Night of the Living Neckbeards...
 
@Chopper3 Nobody but us night-shift dorks hanging out at this hour usually.
 
3:28 AM
@HopelessN00b Not hard at all. It basically just needs a UI.
 
@Adrian I'm not a night-shift guy, I'm just unfire-able and everyone knows it. So, not being a morning person, I roll into work whenever I feel like it. Usually within reason.
 
@HopelessN00b Heh. Yeah, my boss can't make a decision to save his life, but he's death on tardiness.
@MichaelHampton Hmm. Going to save up some cash for a used workgroup server for dinking VMs for that. Need something around to test that stuff out on. Nothing I have now is newer than 2004.
 
@MichaelHampton Right, like I figured. Off to bug the TC devs about being lazy, useless jackasses who don't give me a good enough product for free. :o
@Adrian I've noticed that talent and getting up other people's asses about trivial shit are inversely related.
 
@HopelessN00b Pretty much. Retroactively denied a work-from-home day once when there was 12" of snow on the ground. Claimed he never approved it, and carefully checked his email to ensure it wasn't in writing before claimed that too. he forgets that I see the mail logs.
 
Be more selective when choosing roommates. — Michael Hampton 11 secs ago
Hey, he asked...see his edit.
 
3:34 AM
Heh. Boot password.
My padawan randomly installs a boot password on some of our machines for some reason. I usually make him go fix it, which is actually probably rewarding him.
 
What do you think you get when you "encrypt system" after installing RHEL 6?
 
@MichaelHampton Encrypted partitions. We've had that question a few times on SF.
Including one dude who wanted to do some really funny business with LVM and encrypted boot partitions
Some people just don't fscking understand that because you can do it on a desktop doesn't make it a good idea in production.
 
@HopelessN00b Did you figure out your Cisco DHCP problem?
 
@WesleyDavid They've called it a "Release Candidate" since February 2011.... I'm not certain they'll ever hit a "Release" let alone "Production Stable".
 
Gmail was in "beta" for years.
 
3:46 AM
Heh. I forgot to mention earlier that the boss tried to cajole me into giving up my dual monitor rig. How the F am I supposed to code halfway decent scripting when I have to flip back and forth between the expect input and output every minute or so when I'm hacking? Duh. That's what the other monitor's for.
 
@gparent Yeah, solution: the thing's a piece of shit that's going back to the store tomorrow.
Oh, and just when I thought the day couldn't get... well, weirder... I found a useful post on SuperUser.
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A: What software can encrypt system disk with keyfile?

Linker3000Our company laptops are encrypted with Truecrypt and you have to use a USB key called a Yubikey to 'unlock' them. The keys 'type in' a 32-character string/passcode when the sensor is pressed. Very simple to setup. http://yubico.com/yubikey

 
@HopelessN00b YubiKeys work well for TrueCrypt... Normal USB flash drives work for BitLocker.
 
@HopelessN00b Well I've heard recent vintages of D-Link routers are all right---after you stick a third party firmware on them.
 
yeah, even linksys wrtg54 units suck nowadays
 
@ChrisS Maybe you can answer, then... how do you set that up for Truecrypt? According to the page, which granted, is marketing shite, it generates a different key each time it's pressed (like the RSA keyfobs).
 
3:52 AM
@HopelessN00b Oh it was a consumer router, I thought you had trouble getting IOS to do DHCP
 
That's just because they're old, mainly.
Yeah, we still refer to those as Linksys even if they do have a Cisco logo on them now.
 
@HopelessN00b YubiKeys can either generate OATH-OTP passwords or it can regurgitate the same password every time.
 
Yeah, same
 
eh, the main 'advantage' of the WRTs was the fact that you can swap the firmware
 
@gparent Yeah. I was kinda poking a nit of fun at Cisco too. Moron decision, diluting that brand by putting it on a $60 PoS marketed at Grandma.
 
3:52 AM
and it was one of the first that allowed that
 
Until about hardware revision 5 when they cut the amount of RAM and flash in the thing by half.
 
*does wonder if you can hack together a half decent AP off a raspi*
@MichaelHampton: one reason you get the GL
which is the GV4 frozen in time
 
Well, not anymore.
 
@JourneymanGeek No PCIe... I suppose you could use USB WiFi, but, yeah
 
they killed off the WRT54GL?
@ChrisS: ya, what I was thinking
might end up being a flexible little toy
 
3:54 AM
No, I mean I wouldn't use an WRT54GL anymore, for anything. Not when I have wireless N :)
 
lol
I mean, if you were getting one
 
@JourneymanGeek I've got one... It's interesting, but I think they cut corners in the wrong places... I'd pay an extra buck to have all the connectors on one side, so it mounts nicely in a case.
 
@ChrisS As I feared. What to do when you need ZFS capabilities for a package that only runs on teh penguins.
I know, btrfs!
chortle
 
Say what I want, my WRT54GL is still my most stable router by far
 
@ChrisS: Oh, getting a case with mine
and an accidental spare case cause of the delay
 
3:57 AM
@WesleyDavid Crank up the heat, kill the penguins... The beasties like the heat.
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but there are connections on all 4 sides. =/
And the USB sticks out farther than the network.
 
@ChrisS Maybe just run a FreeBSD box with FreeNAS as an iSCSI target for the penguin?
 
Same with TV Out and the 3.5mm Audio jack
 
well, I'd bitch about that when I get it
 
The SD card sticks out farther than the USB...
 
I think the RS default case actually has the SD card integral
and adafruit has a half sized micro sd adaptor that fits snug into it
 
3:59 AM
Actually this cheap T-P-Link I got for $20 and stuck OpenWrt on is performing like a beast. Now. The factory firmware was crap, and DD-WRT was slow on it.
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but an ounce of forethought on the engineer's part could have saved us a pound of farting around with finding something that works the way it should have from the start.
 
FreeNAS 8 has been looking pretty slick.
ponders
 
@WesleyDavid That works.. Though I think the last time I looked at FreeNAS's iSCSI Target I was disappointed by the features.
 
@ChrisS As in, totally borked up or are we getting deep into multipath territory that might not be necessary for a small deployment?
 
@WesleyDavid I don't remember the details, but I didn't think it was jacked up...
@WesleyDavid No iSER, which you probably don't care about. I'm not sure if they're using FreeBSD's target, which doesn't support multi-path, or if they use another... It's been too long since I looked at it in detail. Otherwise pretty well fully functional.
 
4:06 AM
@ChrisS Hmm... okay.
 
4:30 AM
@ewwhite Spent a half hour digging through that website for a jobs link. No joy. Got a direct link?
 
 
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Q: Looking for a user friendly file upload service to run on my own server

Joe MakoMy goal is to allow people to upload and download large files through their web browser with a simple user interface and user password/account management. Yousendit offers a service like what I am looking for, but it does not make sense to use their service if I already have a web server. Is the...

Q&A is hard, let's go shopping!
 
6:42 AM
@MichaelHampton Dragging up crap from almost two years ago?
 
g'day
 
7:11 AM
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Q: WebSecurity.InitializeDatabaseConnection method can be called only once

malhadeffI'm trying Windows Azure to host an MVC4 web application. I've created a test app, using VS2012 MVC4 internet application template and added a custom Model and Controller to it. I've published it on Azure and managed to get 'update-database' apply migrations to the Azure Database. When i try th...

Why SO, why ?
 
7:37 AM
That's odd...
My search results on SO are 7 hours old?? Caching?
Oh, never mind, I missed that it was asked 15 hours ago, but only migrated recently.
 
@Iain What are we up to now, % reject rate?
 
32%
 
Just about 1/3 :(
 
The official line is that's not a problem
 
Crikey, I missed a lot yesterday after I went home, Shog9 and Anna both in.
They said it would still be looked at, though?
 
7:47 AM
@tombull89 I was in and out yesterday evening so I didn't follow it well but my understanding is that they will first of all fiddle with the wording on the close pop up meta.stackoverflow.com/a/152596/147520
 
Hmm. Okay, I wonder how much difference that's actually going to make.
 
@tombull89 see my comment at the bottom
 
Personally, I'd still like to see a "minimum rep on target site to migrate" thing, say 102 rep so that's enough to get the association bounty and some positive contribution. Don't have enough rep? Then move vote is converted to "off-topic".
 
@tombull89 you need 15 to vote so make it 26/126
 
Dan
8:17 AM
So, some guy got stabbed to death outside my hotel :(
 
nasty - where ?
 
Dan
@Iain Putney Bridge
Rocked up to find a Police cordon, dozens of police cars / vans and forensics teams etc
 
F-ing on-call this week.
this has been terrible
 
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posted on October 26, 2012 by Wesley David

Because I’m tired of forgetting how to set this option, I’m putting it here. In Vim, and I presume vi as well, if you want to search your document with case insensitivity, simply use the following command: :set ignorecase From then on you can search a document with no regard to case. /AllowUsers is the same search as /allowusers.

 
11:13 AM
It's been a long week. I've already threatened to lock my trainee BOFH in the tape safe today
 
Dan
@RobM Is that the one who enjoys testing SANs?
 
nope, a different one
 
Dan
@RobM Ah
 
can't even remember why I wanted to lock him in the tape safe earlier, just that I did.
 
Dan
@RobM :D I just wish I could sit down
 
11:16 AM
busy day huh?
 
Dan
@RobM Just stuck in a data center, with my laptop sat on a P6000
 
ah... not too comfy that
 
Dan
@RobM It's not too cold though, which is nice for a change
 
@RobM How big is your tape safe? We'd have to stick someone in a blender to get them in ours - think you can put about 24 tapes in it.
 
yeah actually, it's cold and damp enough outside as it is.
@tombull89 we've got 3 and you could get a person in each one, though on one of them they'd need to kneel down
but they'd be comfortable enough once they'd done that. Well until the air ran out
 
11:18 AM
(Re)image 32 laptops in 3 hours: challenge accepted.
 
I'm complaining to the people who sold us their web filtering software about why they've classified dremel.com as dating and blogs about nail polish as hardcore porn.
and specifically about why those are representative of their product's performance, not strange outliers.
 
11:50 AM
Anyone want to know how my week's been?
 
Sure.
One of those weeks?
 
We had our audited DR test yesterday. I got a call at 11 PM asking where all the CIFS NAS shares had gone.
 
oh.... :-|
What had happened?
 
Turns out, someone had forgotten to comment a script in cron that overwrites all the DR copies with fresh production data.
 
I see. What fun!
 
11:53 AM
10 hours or work down the tubes, and now we might fail the DR because we had to get some data from production
 
yeah
mind you better to find that out now
 
This would never have happened in a real disaster- this script is part of our system for ensuring recency of the data, but in a real disaster, it wouldn't have been able to write to this machine. Only in a test...
 
Oh I get that. a real pain in the ass
ah.. when you say "audited" you mean by people outside the department don't you? I thought you meant an internal audit.

So... yeah.. fuck.
 
Audited by our insurance company :(
 
balls :-(
 
11:57 AM
If we fail a DR test, it can cost us 50 million dollars
 
jesus
 
I'm not sure what portion of our insurance bill goes up, but that's the number used to scare new hires
 
yup
either way its not what you need, I get that.
 
I'm just a technician- not the one who made the mistake. I am just waiting to hear yelling through closed doors :( And feeling bad for the guy who made that mistake
 
yeah
 
Dan
12:01 PM
@Basil Chopper would certainly disagree, but I just couldn't be doing with that sort of stress in my life
 
i don't mind positive stress. Putting yourself under pressure to achieve something ambitious is good. Stress from yelling and conflict and assholes at work is something else
 
@Dan Stress is part of the job- I got an offer I thought was suspiciously high when I started here, but now I see it's fair
 
12:19 PM
@Basil won't the auditors accept that as a valid reason for the DR test not functioning? other than the human error of forgetting to comment that out
 
@pauska It's a pass fail system
 
ouch
 
If we can bring up our systems without breaking any rules (like don't get data from HQ) we pass.
on time, that is
 
12:59 PM
I win
 

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