The Comms Room

Iain

20:00

@Adrian is that rustic fences ? I've done cross country but mostly do flat/lateral work and some show jumping (stop sniggering @voretaq7)

Adrian

@Iain I really don't know much about it. Most of my riding consists of two-wheeled conveyances.

I, however, do NOT miss ORD.

one big fscking airport

ewwhite

one crappy airport.

SpacemanSpiff

it ain't too awful if you can stay in T1

ewwhite

T3 is broke-down.

voretaq7

@Iain Never knew you were so kinky! I'm waiting for the part with the riding crop...

@ewwhite it could always be worse.

ewwhite

20:08

It could be LaGuardia....

Adrian

@voretaq7 Two crappy airports? There's always Midway.

voretaq7

@Adrian It could STILL be worse.

Adrian

Although Midway doesn't suck as bad anymore

@voretaq7 Denver

And Dallas and Dulles suck too.

Zypher

@Adrian ohhh Denver isn't sooo bad

i mean besides the security line being ass fucking slow

Adrian

@Zypher Well, you'd be the first person I've ever met who's flown through there and not bitched about it.

Chris S

20:09

Denver isn't bad... Most airports I've been to really aren't bad (except TSA, which isn't the airports' fault)

Iain

@voretaq7 crop or schooling whip ? go a couple of each ;)

Zypher

Now Terminal 3 at JFK is fun when you are using the electronic tickets, and the cell app stops

voretaq7

@Adrian i was gonna say EWR

Zypher

(no cell phone service in that damn terminal)

Adrian

@ChrisS The little Sun Valley airport spoils the hell out of me though. Really nice & professional TSA staff, not pimply-faced rejects.

voretaq7

20:10

@Iain ...all I have is my bullwhip. And the knowledge I could put out a candle with it.

MDMarra

@Zypher How's that actually work, because they tell you never to leave your boarding pass, but they also don't let you take a phone through screening

Zypher

@MDMarra you scan it at the check before screening, send the phone through the xray and you're good

Chris S

@Adrian Must be nice.. The TSA here in town are acceptable. Seems like the smaller the town/airport the more reasonable they are. No surprise really.

Adrian

@voretaq7 I've never had the misfortune of flying into Newark.

Zypher

@Adrian it's just fricken huge, but Terminal C has a smoking lounge which is nice

Adrian

20:11

@ChrisS True. Airports near small communities means that they are dealing with acquaintances and neighbors. Best not to piss off EVERYONE you know, eh?

ewwhite

I'm in the TSA Pre-Check program... don't have to really take anything off in security.

Oh, funny.. check out the URL...

tsa.gov/tsa-pre%E2%9C%93%E2%84%A2

voretaq7

@Adrian sEWeR.

@ewwhite cute TSA... cute... NOW STOP WASTING MY TIME AND MONEY!

Zypher

@voretaq7 god, EWR is ... special but it's in Jersey so waht do you expect

voretaq7

@Zypher ...that it would be shut down as it's completely worthless to humanity

Zypher

yes, but it's jersey

Adrian

20:14

@Zypher Well, both my boss and grand-boss are from Jersey, so maybe that explains a lot of things around here.

r.tanner.f

@voretaq7 "leaving on shoes, light outerwear and belts, as well as leaving laptops and 3-1-1 compliant liquids in carry-on bags." But zomg look at the awesome benefits! You get to leave your shoes on!

voretaq7

it's a "major reliever" for JFK and LGA....
Except NOBODY WANTS TO FLY THERE because it's in JERSEY!

Zypher

@r.tanner.f meh half the time i leave the 3-1-1 shit in my bag anyway they don't care

also it's hit or miss if htey yell at me for beinging stuff on that is too big

ewwhite

I went through a lot to get into that program.

Fly 50k+ miles/year.

Zypher

like my giant contact solution container fiiine my normal sized toothpaste no no that's not cool at all

ewwhite

20:15

and do jumping-jacks...

Adrian

@ewwhite all so you don't have to take your shoes off?

voretaq7

For my checkride I'm going to bring a 1L bottle of water with me.
I won't drink from it. If the examiner asks me why I have it my answer will be "Because the TSA can't stop me."

ewwhite

@Adrian There's no line...

Adrian

I'm not seeing much ROI here...

Zypher

@voretaq7 YES!

ewwhite

20:16

For O'Hare, I'm parking lot to gate in <7 minutes.

Zypher

@ewwhite do you do the clear program too?

Adrian

@ewwhite Ah. So pretty much a frequent-flyer only thing?

Chris S

@ewwhite If I show up at 4am I can do the same thing. =]

voretaq7

@Adrian Do you remember waaaaaaaaaay back when you used to walk through a metal detector and get on a plane?
@ewwhite jumped through a lot of hoops to get back to those days.

Adrian

I looked at the website and the wording was typically government-opaque

Zypher

20:16

clearme.com/home for anyone who cares

ewwhite

@Zypher naw, just pre√ :)

Adrian

@voretaq7 Not really. I flew once in 1982, which I barely remember and then I didn't fly anywhere again until 1995.

Zypher

@voretaq7 and they only laughed and said they would mail the knife in your pocket back to you?

Adrian

Until I moved to Seattle there wasn't much that wasn't cheaper to drive the 8-12 hours to get to from Buffalo.

SpacemanSpiff

anyone else used quantum's VMpro backup software?

Basil

20:24

Anyone have any constructive criticism about my question? (or answers? :P)

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Q: Read multiple lines from a grep

I'm writing a script in AIX 5.3 that will loop through the output of a df and check each volume against another config file. If the volume appears in the config file, it will set a flag which is needed later in the script. If my config file only has a single column and I use a for loop, this work...

sysadmin1138

@voretaq7 A relative has two metal knees now, and gets to be professionally groped whenever she comes up to a gate with only magentometers. She made it through the pre-check program so she can possibly bypass the groping.

SpacemanSpiff

@sysadmin1138 my mom is in that same exact boat

sysadmin1138

Remember back in the 1980's when Cyberpunk was big? All those bionic limbs have a biiig unexpected downside to those.

Iain

@sysadmin1138 Neuromancer et al ?

Hennes

Neuromancer was fun. As was black light.

sysadmin1138

20:31

@Iain Yep. Going through transit-security with a pair of bionic eyes would make the binger go bing.

Zoredache

@Basil a simple solution is just to do some thing like grep blah | ( while read... done echo "$thresholdFlag") Basically just put the () around the while and anything else and explicitly create a subshell

voretaq7

@sysadmin1138 "possibly"

when simply running a wand over the knee would reveal that - HEY - the patient's knees are metal

and the medic alert bracelet/card she probably carries saying "Please don't put me in an MRI machine or my knees will EXPLODE" being a good bit of corroborating proof...

Basil

@Zoredache Wouldn't that nest subshells and still pose the problem? Let me test it

sysadmin1138

@voretaq7 You'd think, but it's scan-then-grope these days. Wanding is for wussy sporting events.

voretaq7

@sysadmin1138 The TSA is a personal sore spot for me: Huge government waste, massive inconvenience, and zero real impact on safety and security. It's a bloody trifecta that only my idiot government could manage

Zoredache

20:41

@Basil Depends on what else you are doing. You could also do something like while read ... done <(grep blah).

Basil

@Zoredache Hot damn, that worked!

thanks!@

Zoredache

Go upvote dogbane I had the same issue a while ago.

DJ Pon3

xkcd.com/806

^ We need an easter egg that dumps anyone into chat if they type "Shibboleet" in a question.

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voretaq7

@Zoredache :adds link comment to our question:

@DJPon3 . . . might be worthwhile

it's obscure enough that we wouldn't get too many braindead souls

DJ Pon3

You know you want it... Well I know I want it and I'm shameless about projecting my needs onto others, which is the same thing from my seat in the 'sociopath' section of the flight

yes, it's obscure enough to be a nice easter egg for those that get it

voretaq7

20:51

@DJPon3 that would be the unpressurized cargo hold, yes?

DJ Pon3

Apparently yes. Still this is a comfy cage and the straw's fresh, so I'll make hay while the sun shines.

Zoredache

@DJPon3 add that as a feature reques ton meta. I'll upvote it.

DJ Pon3

It's worth a punt.

voretaq7

fucking jquery man...

sysadmin1138

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Q: Pushing Large Files to 500+ Computers

I work with a team to manage 500-600 rented Windows 7 computers for an annual conference. We have a large amount of data that needs to be synced to these computers, up to 1 TiB. The computers are divided into rooms and connected through unmanaged gigabit switches. We prepare these computers ahea...

synchronization largefiles bittorrent

That's an extremely well written shopping question, damnit.

DJ Pon3

20:59

wellp I asked

Adrian

@sysadmin1138 ya know, that's adequately well-written that it would be tough for me to VTC that.

That's no HALP! GIVE ME THE CODEZ! question.

Iain

1

Q: "Shibboleet" Easter Egg for serverfault

Would it be possible to add another Easter Egg to serverfault? If so, we could use an easter egg that dumps anyone into chat if they type "Shibboleet" in a question. It's obscure enough that it isn't likely to cause a problem for normal use and would be fun for the few who do know about it. Ba...

feature-request easter-egg

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go and upvote ^

sysadmin1138

@Adrian I know! It's shopping, but its a question that's itching for an answer. Unlike most shopping questions.

Adrian

@sysadmin1138 And really, I kinda feel for the dude too. That's exactly how I feel about this damn LTSP upgrade I'm supposed to be working on.

DJ Pon3

That's a great question. If only it was less shoppy

Chris S

21:07

@sysadmin1138 It's just plain fun... Almost code golf.

Adrian

Whee! Just DoS'd our main file server.

voretaq7

@Adrian h4x0r.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Rsync'ing the Win7 Technet ISOs over from the test network. 195Mb/s is enough to DoS the file server.

voretaq7

@Adrian H4X0R!

Adrian

I'm thinking that file server needs to be a little less reliable. Maybe they'll cut loose funding to replace it.

voretaq7

21:10

@Adrian You need the hammer of reliability!

Adrian

@voretaq7 I'm pretty sure that hammers are rather reliable as far as tools are concerned.

voretaq7

@Adrian ^ HAMMER of RELIABILITY

One side makes the device more reliable

the other makes it less reliable

Adrian

I must say though, I tuned the living shit out of that 7yo POS awhile back. Got it up to 195Mbps from 115.

DJ Pon3

The panel beating hammer of un-detectable physical damage

voretaq7

@DJPon3 Hammer of Reliability

If it's broken, hitting it fixes it

if it's working, hitting it breaks it.

It's MAGICAL!

DJ Pon3

21:19

Every server room should have one

voretaq7

@DJPon3 every rack.

DJ Pon3

yep

voretaq7

and they should be on the crash cart next to the etherkillers.

DJ Pon3

our IT director had one in a toolkit in his office which ended up in our server room. He asked my assistant where it had gone and just said "... I don't want to know, do I?" when told where it was.

freiheit

@DJPon3 "percussive maintenance was required"

Adrian

21:22

Nice. Just got told that our building will have no hot water for 6 hours tomorrow and no heat for anything but the basement offices (where I work).

voretaq7

@Adrian closed. except your group.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Only if we want to burn PTO.

Unscheduled PTO at that since the notice didn't go out until 2pm today.

DJ Pon3

It sure was @freiheit. An unreliable part magically became a part replaced under manufacturer's warranty.

voretaq7

option B: File OSHA violations if the temperature falls below whatever the limit is.

DJ Pon3

@Adrian that doesn't sound too good

Adrian

21:23

@voretaq7 Yeah, we're not union, so there's no protection against retribution.

voretaq7

@Adrian say one of the clients complained

it's anonymous, they'll never know

Adrian

@voretaq7 Anonymous? Hahahahaha. Someone from the Board will make a phone call and they'll find out who filed it.

MikeyB

hahahaha: downloads.dell.com

voretaq7

@MikeyB No applause. Just throw doobies.

Adrian

@voretaq7 NYC might actually make a gesture in the direction of not being totally corrupt, this town started out that way.

amazon.com/Sons-Profits-business-Business-1851-1901/dp/…

freiheit

21:26

@DJPon3 I accidentally did that to my bicycle's front derailer a little while ago...

DJ Pon3

doh

freiheit

@voretaq7 I double-checked OSHA once about temperatures, and they only have temperature recommendations, not requirements.

voretaq7

@freiheit really? Check state labor laws then

freiheit

osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/…

Adrian

Noise levels, OTOH, which this place also ignores.

voretaq7

21:29

though it's certainly arguable that a temperature below freezing in the office constitutes a workplace hazard unless appropriate PPE is supplied.

Adrian

FML. 30 minutes until the orientation training class starts.

voretaq7

@Adrian compass, USGS map, blindfold...

Adrian

@voretaq7 mustard gas.

voretaq7

oh orientation, not orienteering?

@Adrian No, bear spray

amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Attack-Deterrent-Holster/dp/…

"Item not available to ship to [insert list of places with bears]"

Zoredache

I am annoyed, that Vmware didn't lower the upgrade pricing for vmware workstation.

Every other major release has been space ~2-3 year apart, but 8 -> 9 is 11 months, but they still wan the $119 per seat for an upgrade.

voretaq7

21:38

@Zoredache I'd recommend virtualbox, but Oracle probably wants mo' money.

Zoredache

@voretaq7 I really liked the forked snappshot, and linked clones features. AFAIK, nothing else offers that.

freiheit

@voretaq7 Does anybody really buy that stuff for use on bears? I thought it was all people worried about home invasions...

voretaq7

@freiheit hey, if a bear is invading my home I will not hesitate to mace the fucker.

freiheit

@voretaq7 Even if he's a really hot bear?

voretaq7

@freiheit I... have never seen such a creature.

(the ones that ride the unicycles are kinda cute I guess)

84104

21:41

Mary had a little lamb. She also had a bear. I didn't care much for Mary's lamb. I'd rather see her bare.

voretaq7

Mary had a little lamb
She ate it with mint jelly.
And everywhere that Mary went
the lamb was in her belly.

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freiheit

@voretaq7 There's a local town that has a "bare bears" weekend every year. I hear some of them are cute

voretaq7

@freiheit mmhmm.... not around here so much

"bear" in lower NY is "overweight middle-aged man with too much body fat and lots-o-body-hair" for the most part.

ewwhite

ewwww.

The hair...

the sweat...

freiheit

@voretaq7 I guess some people are into that...

Zypher

21:56

@freiheit ... yes, they ... just yes

Michael Hampton

I'm not really trying to shop, and I think I might unclear as to what you mean. I was trying to ask a technical question to my fellow technical geniuses, superiors, admins, etc...to see if anybody's got any suggestions, or tools, or administrative strategies I might be able to employ. Will look into Zenoss right away...thanks! — A. Avadis 8 mins ago

voretaq7

and such.

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton Good attitude.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Eh, I ran out of close votes very early this morning, and I'm surprised that question didn't get any.

Adrian

23:09

@voretaq7 I'd prefer Hipster Attack Deterrent with Bear Holster

@MichaelHampton I ran out of Give A Shit early this week. I'm having fun re-writing shell scripts in Python though. I'm the only one in the building that knows any Python.

Blog.SF

Server Fault Blog: Working towards failure: Testing this weekend

Nick Craver on October 11, 2012

This coming Saturday, October 13th around lunch 3PM UTC we’ll be testing our redundant datacenter and failover procedure. We’re hoping for two brief downtimes while we swap over and swap back between New York and Oregon are all the outside world is aware of. We’re planning for mass chaos and lots of fail.

Over the last few months we’ve been beefing up Stack Overflow’s original home at PEAK internet’s datacenter in Corvallis, Oregon. Here is the list of shiny hardware now packed in Oregon: 4 new Dell R610s (Web), 2 new R620s (1 Web, 1 Redis), 2 new R720xds (1 DB, 1 Logs), 1 new R710 (DB …

84104

@Adrian 2 or 3?

Adrian

@84104 working on 2.7 right now. My book's a couple years old and probably isn't all that accurate for 3.

With much thanks to @Iain, I'm rather enjoying the puttering around with the Python.

84104

I use python when bash won't cut it or would just be too painful.

Adrian

@84104 Yeah, same here. I've decided to try Python for anything non-obvious.

84104

23:21

Most of where I see the difference between 2 and 3 is streams (and the print call).

Adrian

@84104 That might be useful. My most recent production script goes through the /etc/aliases file and cross-references that against the list of valid users and uses a slightly wonky Python module for PAM interaction.

84104

@Adrian PAM or NSS?

Adrian

Reads in the aliases file, strips out all but the recipient lists and adds them to a array, sorts it, de-dupes it, and then calls up the list of valid users in PAM and checks to make sure all of the listed users have accounts in PAM and removes them from the array when found. Then spits out the list of un-matched accounts to my padawans and tells them to get their crap together and finish terminating the half-terminated employees.

@84104 Definitely PAM. The NIS master is a CentOS 5 box.

Isn't NSS a CentOS 6 thing?

84104

Should have been clearer. I meant the Name Service Switch nss(5)

I suppose those are two halves of the same coin.

ewwhite

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A: Set up simple Infiniband Block Storage (SRP or iSER)

mistake mistake mistake ..............

Is that a good answer?

84104

23:31

@ewwhite No. It might be correct, but it isn't good.

Adrian

healthcareitnews.com/blog/blog-worlds-worst-ehr-vendor

That's some funny stuff.

Bites a little close to the bone though, a la Dilbert some days.

Joel E Salas

@Adrian that was some fine drinkin'

Adrian

@JoelESalas Thank you Sir. You and your co-worker were excellent company.

Joel E Salas

23:46

@Adrian likewise sir. We'd like to hit the town again. No idea where to go.

Adrian

@JoelESalas Hmm. If the weather were decent, I'd send you to Alki Beach, but we obviously just caught the first day of winter here.

@JoelESalas You might want to try McCormick & Schmicks on Bellevue Way.

ewwhite

I'm out of questions...

nothing else to vote on.

Joel E Salas

@adrian its a chaaaaain

Adrian

@JoelESalas Yeah, but one that is considered pretty good. And the non-chain stuff on the Eastside is pretty thin.

Joel E Salas

@Adrian I don't think we mind driving, a cool spot takes precedence

Adrian

23:55

@JoelESalas Ah. F.X. McRory's in Pioneer Square.

Before the smoking ban, that used to be one of the few cigar-friendly restaurants in town.

Classy place.

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