The Comms Room

t1nt1n

10:00 AM

Morning Ladies

Bart De Vos

Hi

Dan

10:37 AM

Do any of you guys know of some kind of source control that would work for a lone sysadmin on one machine? I do a little bit with VBS, C# and sometimes PHP and I could do with a solid way of keeping track

Greg

@Dan git without a doubt

have been using git for years now, for my personal projects and work projects

Bart De Vos

I tend to use Dropbox, but no doubt git would be better :)

Dan

Sweet - I'll be honest, it was in my head but I had.....no idea there was a windows version :D

Greg

Got a nice set up with public hosted (github) and private hosted repositories

Dan

That sounds absolutely spot on, Greg

Greg

10:40 AM

plus, github offer private hosting at a small fee if you don't want to set up your own server... although it's really REALLY easy

Dan

I take it it just runs on normal web technology?

awoodland

why on earth would some random Russian IP address, claiming to be an iPhone be sending HTTP requests to SMTP servers on port 25?

Bart De Vos

@awoodland spammers :)

Greg

@Dan it can run via http but it has its own protocol which is much faster and more secure

Bart De Vos

@Greg bitbucket does it for free I think :)

Greg

10:45 AM

you can access your repositories at git://yourdomain.com:RepoName

Dan

@Greg Ah, sorry I think I'm a touch confused. I can download Git locally, no problem, but can I create a Github style affair on normal shared Linux hosting?

awoodland

@BartDeVos what I don't get is what would they ever get other than "go away" from doing that? It's not long enough to be a buffer overflow attempt. Does some mail server seriously answer HTTP requests on port 25?

Greg

@Dan you can install git on a Linux machine to act as a git client, use github or similar for the git server

Bart De Vos

@awoodland From what I've seen, they aren't the brightest of people. Maybe they just f'ed up?

Dan

@Greg Right, okay - I take there's no self hosted version of Github? I've just checked their plans and I can't really put my stuff into the public domain

pauska

10:48 AM

does anyone here know if Office 2010 can activate itself with a MAK key?

Bart De Vos

@Dan Checkout Bitbucket :)

pauska

I seem to remember that you have to log on as administrator and manually activating office

Dan

It can definitely activate itself using KMS, if that helps

Bart De Vos

@Dan Indeed, that's how we do it :)

pauska

KMS is a bitch for us as we mostly use terminal services, since it doesnt activate until the client count is big enough

Dan

10:50 AM

No, but once you're done you're done. Create some VM's and force it - it's worth it in the end IMO

(Not that it answers your question, I admit)

And the client count is quite low for Office

@BartDeVos Brill, thanks

Kenny Rasschaert

@Greg bitbucket.org provides free git hosting for private and public repos

Greg

cool

Kenny Rasschaert

oh, :2949067 beat me to it

i suck at this chat

Dan

Sorry for the n00biness - is a "Repository" synonymous with "Project", or is it more about control?

Kenny Rasschaert

[insert technologically impaired duck]

i meant @myself, not @Dan

Dan

10:54 AM

:D

Kenny Rasschaert

I should just be quiet now

Bart De Vos

@KennyRasschaert Come and have lunch

looks like you need it

Kenny Rasschaert

Good call

pauska

@Dan do you use the VAMT for managing the KMS host?

Dan

@pauska Depends on my mood, I tend to configure everything from the command line but I always install VAMT on to some server or another, mainly for managing clients though

I just love the "Fire and forget" nature of KMS, once it's up and running anyway.

As for clients (And this goes for Office especially) I add scripts to the build process somewhere which just does the necessaries

pauska

11:43 AM

ok

well, I just got to wrap my head around it

I still havent figured out where you would use VAMT and where you would use the vbscript.. I added keys via VAMT, but they wont show up in the vbscript etc

Dan

VAMT, to me, is for one off stuff or for checking / testing. But then I prefer hands off processes once the system is installed

Which bit of KMS are you struggling with?

Chopper3

@pauska Hi, how'd you find the chairs?

pauska

@Chopper3 the reseller you pointed me at. A bit steep price, our CFO is not happy

so I'll probably have to get another chair :p

Chopper3

:( sorry

pauska

USD $1655 per chair including shipping and assembly

Chopper3

11:55 AM

Oh you should shop around, I'm sure you could do better than that, did you just try the embody or any of the other models?

pauska

just the embody for now

they can provide the same chair you have for less money, but with less ergonomic features.. and that kind of defeats the whole idea

Journeyman Geek

hm

needs to go replace his gym ball at some point

Chopper3

12:29 PM

Worst answer ever I reckon; serverfault.com/a/348451/1435

Bart De Vos

12:40 PM

@Chopper3 Looks like spam to me

Chopper3

could be but the question's about synology and those links are to them???

Rob Moir

12:55 PM

is it time to go home yet

t1nt1n

@RobMoir I was just thinking the same....

pauska

1:08 PM

feel free to improve the grammar here, for those of you who understand what this question is about.. im lost

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Q: find command + exe status diff from 0 when file not found

how to enable find command to print exe status diff from 0 when find command not find the file? according to my example when I try to find the test1.txt file , $? set to 0 but I expect to get value diff from 0 because the file not found [root@om-1 tmp]# touch test.txt [root@om-1 tmp]# find /...

t1nt1n

1:24 PM

Why do people change there mind at the last second....

Chopper3

@t1nt1n 50% of the time it's because they're women

t1nt1n

@chop

@Chopper3 directors...... (Male) supposed to be going live with a CMS tomorrow. Changed there mind on the conten layout...

Chopper3

sounds about right to be honest

pauska

@Dan Right now I just gotta find 5 servers/clients to install office on to get KMS working

@Dan two of them are in production, so that big activation error that normal users get is not going to be welcomed..

pfo

1:40 PM

oh man those netapp service guys are so horrible

can't properly reproduce bugs even if you tell them step by step on your system what's wrong.

Bart Silverstrim

Filed a bug report with a package in Ubuntu on 10-19-11. Still not even acknowledged as an issue. Bleh...

pfo

@BartSilverstrim forget filing Ubuntu bugs - that is insane!

Bart Silverstrim

Yeah, it's Linux! You're supposed to fix that shit yourself!

pfo

no, actually not.

Bart Silverstrim

Hell, we have Autozone in our town. Fix your own damn car!

pfo

1:42 PM

but ubuntu is extremely understaffed and underskilled

Bart Silverstrim

The packages are maintained by their own maintainers.

This was a bug in Samhain.

Or a glitch.

I just checked the page again and there's not even an acknowledgement or confirmation of the issue.

Nearly three months...sheesh.

jscott

@BartSilverstrim WONTFIX

Bart De Vos

I also posted to bugs

Bart Silverstrim

WONTACK

pauska

they are too busy fixing unity

Bart De Vos

1:46 PM

nothing ever happened to them

both SSL/encryption-stuff, they don't mind

Bart Silverstrim

Complain about Ubuntu package bugs. Never fixed. Complain about "blog" link over chat link. Never fixed. I will say that at least here they will take time to mock you on Meta if you complain so you at least know you exist.

Lucas Kauffman

@pauska I still don't get why they didn't stay with gnome 2 or even waited for gnome 3. Unity just isn't ... functional

pauska

well, I don't honestly care, as I never use GUI on any *nix

what bugs me is that they are losing focus.. LOTS of companies are using the LTS editions for servers, and bug reports are usually classified as "this works fine on my desktop install, bug invalid"

like the vmware tools dependency bullshit

Lucas Kauffman

@pauska I like xubuntu, just super light for my netbook :)

pauska

I'm seriously considering switching back to Debian

Lucas Kauffman

1:51 PM

I've switched back to debian ever since we had a bug with Xen, they knew for over a year and did not want to fix it. Upgrades would cause the whole Xen system to break.

I don't really get why went with ubuntu in the first place.

pauska

I remember why I switched.. PPA's

they are wonderful

but you can get around them

Lucas Kauffman

Indeed, also we recently had problems with broken locales, on some machines we still can't seem to get it fixed :(

tombull89

odd...workplace filter is blocking the SF homepage.

Lucas Kauffman

@tombull89 tunneling ftw ?

Scott Pack

@tombull89 So you managed to get a workplace HR policy created just for you? Congrats!

tombull89

1:59 PM

It'll pass in a few hours...probably picking up a word or two the filter doesn't like.

Bart Silverstrim

Nice. "Filter by Improbability Drive."

Bart De Vos

Oops, wrong windows

Scott Pack

@BartDeVos Write ALL THE CHANGES!

Bart De Vos

@ScottPack ".ssh/authorized_keys" E212: Can't open file for writing

Oops, forgot to create the dir

Scott Pack

Try Harder.

SmallClanger

2:03 PM

Oh, Windows... You know I want to look at a long list of occasionally very wide AD object properties. Why do I still have to use that tiny, fixed-size dialogue box you've been carting around since 1993? Why?

t1nt1n

@SmallClanger Becuase Microsoft hates change

pauska

@t1nt1n Not true. They released ADAC, which sucks even more

t1nt1n

I dont think Win7 liked that comment. It just decied to reboot its self.

Bart De Vos

I'm off :)

bye :)

:q!

t1nt1n

bhye

Lucas Kauffman

2:19 PM

cya

pfo

@KyleBrandt serverfault.com/questions/348484/…

no such thing out there

i know the pain of GARP

Dan

@pauska did you get your KMS stuff activated? Just seen your response

Bart Silverstrim

2:35 PM

What is it about Amazon that encourages reviews of books while B&N seems to be almost completely bereft of reviews?

pauska

@Dan Building dummy vm's to get the activation count to 5 now.. :p

@Dan: Do you know if it's possible to lower the activation count at a later time (removed/dead clients)?

Dan

@pauska Not to my knowledge, no, why would you want to? You just leave KMS to plod along. Also, is this for Office only? Cos you may want to get your OS KMS key up to the required count while you're in the VMing mood

Though bear in mind if you change the key you'll need to start from scratch

pauska

@Dan Just to keep track of clients I guess, but it's not important. We only have OS licenses for Datacenter, and I've installed the KMS key for that.

Dan

@pauska Ah. It wouldn't really be reliable anyway, cos everytime you rebuilt and sysprepped a machine it'd add to the count with its new CMID

Chopper3

2:52 PM

[main client] are VERY slow at taking on new code versions etc., they're actually better at switching on totally new code/products than updating existing ones (unless there's a security concern, they're good for that) - well tonight, between 0200-0600am they're moving to openssl 1.0.0e across my entire platform to support the AES-NI hardware in 56xx-series xeons - woo

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