The Comms Room

8:01 PM

Although some of our field based people....

We must make 5 or 6 "remove uTorrent from your machine NOW, or HR is getting involved" phone calls a year :(

Sounds like a winner. We process a few more than that. Of course, we're a residential university, that makes a difference.

Ben

Oh I hate to even think about what goes down your pipe :/

Iain

@AntoniusBloch right click on the disk->properties in Computer

packs

@Ben My rule of thumb is that if you randomly select a computer on campus (lab/office/laptop/dorm/whatever) you have about a 50% chance of finding porn. I find it to be a comforting base assumption. :)

sysadmin1138

@packs BOY HOWDY does being a residential university increase your DMCA workload.

voretaq7

8:11 PM

@packs 50%? Your students are subpar.

Jacob

@voretaq7 hahahhaahahaha

sysadmin1138

Our ResTek group has a person dedicated to handling DMCA notices. On the campus side, one of our telecom guys probably spends 30% of his day dealing with the things.

packs

@voretaq7 Like I said, I'm including faculty and staff machines in that figure. Students alone would be MUCH higher

@sysadmin1138 Holy crap! Smells like automation time

sysadmin1138

@packs In a faintly related note, volume statistics I ran on the student home-directory volume indicate our lowest percentage of .mp3 files in years.

packs

@sysadmin1138 You posted that on your blog, yes?

sysadmin1138

8:13 PM

@packs The ResTek workload includes the "talking to students" part, which is a good chunk of the time. We're building automated systems for tracking things as we speak. We'll be NAC-ing our WLAN soon, which'll help identify the torrenters.

@packs Probably.

Or problem is 'legal torrents' and how to handle them.

voretaq7

@packs I figure a 5:1 student-to-faculty ratio, so 3:1 including all staff -- you should be able to hit at least 66-70%! :)

packs

@sysadmin1138 That was a big issue with us too.

Ben

Ha when I was at school, we gave our music a .doc extension to get round the quick *.mp3 search that happened periodically :-)

packs

A few years ago when we topped the RIAA's list we bought an AudibleMagic device, that helped out significantly.

voretaq7

@Ben When I was at school I just did a "chmod 700 ~" (the script that did the checking ran as nobody)

nobody ever said IT at my school was smart (cough*Open NFS server*cough)

packs

8:16 PM

@sysadmin1138 We've been using a captive portal login wall for wireless for a long time, which helps with the identification, but also have an automated switch port disable system that helps with the wired. We let them call us :)

sysadmin1138

@Ben We never thumped anyone for that, I just liked to keep track of the percentages.

voretaq7

@packs good policy (automatic port shutoff)

sysadmin1138

@packs We've had a captive portal on the WLAN side for ages. There is some technicality I'm not understanding that's making it less useful than it sounds.

@Ben Although I did administratively thump a few people for serving obviously downloaded movie files from their /public_html directories.

packs

@voretaq7 It was already in place before the RIAA starting going wild, so we just started using it for that as well.

@sysadmin1138 Do you know the name of the product off-hand, or do you not want to share?

sysadmin1138

@packs Our Wireless is in such a mess right now due to a transition between WLAN directors. The old one, bluesocket, can't keep up with the load, and the new one is throwing enough tempter tantrums that no one except the WLAN engineers knows what's going on where, with what, and in which rooms.

The worst problem, seemingly solved for the moment, was that the captive portal was taking 2 minutes to log people in.

packs

8:20 PM

@sysadmin1138 I can relate to that. We're still using Bluesocket, and they've somehow managed to keep the loads balanced.

Holy crap! And how long was a login session valid for?

sysadmin1138

Something like 4 hours if I'm remembering right.

I has been a royal battle, which you wouldn't expect from the #1 vendor in networking gear.

The other hard part has been getting domained laptops on the WLAN to be able to do domain stuff (GPOs) w/o having a logged in user on them.

packs

With bluesocket you can up ACLS to allow unauthenticated access. We've done that with a few things, including the DCs

sysadmin1138

That's what we were doing. The New System doesn't have a directly equivalent system for that.

Antonius Bloch

@Iain I don't think that number is accurate. My raw disk images turn out bigger than the number shown in disk properties.

packs

@sysadmin1138 Ah. Nice. Thanks guys.

Antonius Bloch

8:30 PM

@Iain for example when disk properties shows 73262534656 the size of the image under linux is 73274490880.

sysadmin1138

@packs We're currently attempting to club 802.11x into submission sufficiently to make it work that way.

packs

@sysadmin1138 I wish I had enough experience with 1x to say something more useful than, 'Good Luck With That'

Iain

@AntoniusBloch :(

Robert Moir

802.11x deployments sometimes feel more like a game of chess... or maybe snap... with various server components than a nice disciplined product rollout

@Chopper3 - based on your comment about how you like your autos, are you actually Jeremy Clarkson? Or do you just play him on the interwebs?

packs

@RobertMoir I haven't heard @Chopper3 breathe in deeply through his teeth yet, so I'm not so sure.

Iain

8:38 PM

I see that the Mexican ambassador has complained about Top Gear

Robert Moir

I'm not surprised, that was a kinda off-the-ball rant from all of them

i think hammond and chopper3 were both on it, even captain slow got into the act

Iain

I laughed at it

bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12338053

Robert Moir

so did I

I can't help thinking they were trolling for complaints

Iain

absolutely

vgv8 has a lot to learn

Jacob

@Iain Anyone seen US top gear?

packs

8:44 PM

@Jacob Did that actually happen?

voretaq7

@Jacob It's pretty lousy compared to what the brits get.

@packs there were a couple of pilot episodes, don't know if it got into being a series or not

Iain

@Jacob - didn't know there was one

voretaq7

Kinda like Junkyard Wars was a watered-down version of Scrapheap Challenge

Iain

Scrapheap was a fab program

packs

@Iain Uncontested.

Jacob

8:46 PM

@Iain There is we like it.... They don't bash our cars or our trucks

We have a Ford Truck... And I am getting one as my car

voretaq7

@Iain absolutely

Iain

Did you get Robot Wars ?

voretaq7

@Iain we got Battle Bots on TV for a while

packs

@voretaq7 I miss seeing Grant's pecker in action.

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voretaq7

@packs Not gonna even go near that one except to star it :)

Iain

8:50 PM

is that safe to google ?

packs

Deadblow

{| class="infobox bordered" style="width: 25em; text-align: left; font-size: 95%;" |+ style="font-size: larger;" | Deadblow |- | colspan="2" style="text-align:center;" | |- ! Builder: | Grant Imahara |- ! Weight class: | Middleweight |- ! Weapon: | High-pressure air powered hammer |- ! Drive type: | Electric |- ! Win/Loss record: | 7/6 |- ! Tournament wins: | 0 |- ! Rumble wins: | 2 |- ! BattleBots rank: | 2 |- | colspan="2" style="font-size: smaller;" | {} |} Deadblow is a combat robot built and driven by Grant Imahara. It competed in BattleBots in the middleweight division u...

Ben

Hah, yet another out of context starred message :-)

packs

Wow! Look at how sweet those one-boxes are :)

voretaq7

lol

x en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadblow x

nope, it expanded mine too

there we go.

packs

No pictures, too bad.

It basically just looked like a sled with a long arm and a rail-road spike on the end.

voretaq7

8:52 PM

unfortuantely not, google.com/… has some videos though.

packs

It shows up on Mythbusters every now and then.

packs

9:10 PM

Wow, people must really be watching those videos

Tom O'Connor

hey again

voretaq7

heh

Chopper3

@RobertMoir No, Clarkson's into driving fast, I'm just lazy.

Robert Moir

heh fair enough

Zypher

@Chopper3 yea that guy is annoying ... I'll keep an eye on him ... he keeps it up have to dig the vgv8 banhammer out

lynxman

9:31 PM

hey guys *waves

Tom O'Connor

hey @lynxman

Jacob

@lynxman Hey

lynxman

anyone here going to FOSDEM this weekend?

oh wow, new product from google

googleartproject.com

pauska

Anyone here experienced with DFS design? I see posts everywhere about people using their DC's as namespace servers.. is there anything wrong with using file servers as the namespace servers?

Jacob

@pauska I wouldn't think so

Tom O'Connor

9:36 PM

@pauska I'd love to know similar things.. I'm in the process of building an office domain, but it's gotta be as solid as a rock.

Don't suppose anyone knows if you can add stuff to the windows snmp service's output, like dfs statistics..

pauska

@TomOConnor That sounds like WMI data to me

Tom O'Connor

@pauska Perhaps, i dunno how to extract it though.

voretaq7

@pauska MS is very stingy about giving you WMI data via anything normal like SNMP :-/

@TomOConnor if you're trying to monitor it long-term you need a monitoring tool that understands WMI

Tom O'Connor

laaame

so munin's out

and nagios

pauska

blogs.technet.com/b/josebda/archive/2009/06/26/…

voretaq7

9:41 PM

and InterMapper unless you're running it on Windows

(you can do WMI via nagios, you just need an intermediary to run the perl WMI stuff, and it's sucky)

Tom O'Connor

hum.

Zypher

@TomOConnor i've had good success with using nagios WSC in the past it's uses IIS as an intermdieary to get WMI data

nagios-wsc.sourceforge.net/index.php

although from what i can tell it's pretty much abandoned at this point

Tom O'Connor

mmm i'll take a look tomorrow at work

gnight!

emtunc

9:56 PM

Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to get a SBS 2003 running on the Amazon EC2? I've searched for images but the closest I could find is 'datacenter edition' and 'sqlexpress'

:)

Chopper3

10:24 PM

George, hope my ssd answer wasn't too negative

pauska

are the results in on the mod votes?

Tomorrow @pauska

@pauska Tomorrow

@pauska 22 hours :)

ooh :)

10:36 PM

I think there are too many people qualified... and not enough spots

It was hard to choose

lynxman

well whoever gets elected there'll be more moderators now, so that's always positive

Chopper3

Don't you just hate the rep limit!

Ben

Hah the SSD answer?

lynxman

@Chopper3 but the mortaboard badge is kinda cool :)

Zoredache

I made choice mostly based on their physical location/availability. I want more off-hours mods.

Chopper3

10:37 PM

Same thing last week too, never understood it

Ben

@Chopper3 I can always remove my vote if you like :P

You love it really

Chopper3

"off-hours"?

Zoredache

As in, not 9-5 US timezones

The rest of the world is off.

lynxman

Americuh... fuck yeah! \m/

Chopper3

We should have a charity bin, all rep limited rep goes into a bucket and the top 10-20 users give a dollar or something to charity of that amount per year?

Haha, that's why your timezone is utc then eh ;)

Zoredache

10:40 PM

Or maybe it goes to the community user that randomly puts bounties on 0 answer questions with more then 5 up-votes on the question.

Zypher

@Chopper3 nope "Jeff made me do it" (ask the question anyway) lots o good info in there

Chopper3

k

WesleyDavid

MATT DAMON!

Ben

@WesleyDavid is it time for your medicine again?

Jacob

@Ben I'll make the call

Robert Moir

10:47 PM

watch it, if he goes too long without it he turns into chuck norris

lynxman

@RobertMoir or Matt Damon from Team America

WesleyDavid

Back in my day, the only medicine you were ever given was measured in shots or fifths... that is if you could fight your way through the starving tigers.

Robert Moir

I'm not sure which is worse...

WesleyDavid

And yes, anytime I see a Team America quote I reply with "MATT DAMON!"

Robert Moir

medicine? You had medicine? In my day the doctors used to beat sick people until they passed out and stopped feeling the pain

lynxman

10:49 PM

@WesleyDavid youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM

WesleyDavid

Back in my day, sickness hadn't even been invented yet.

Back in my day, we were so healthy it was sickening. Oh wait...