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Q: Should we try to answer questions about specific flights or videos?

PondlifeThis question asks for information about gear extension on a landing shown in a Youtube video. We already have a general question about lowering the gear and the new one covers essentially the same ground but for one specific flight. Should we allow/encourage these questions, with the risk that w...

 
5:22 PM
what happened in this video, exactly? youtube.com/watch?v=ie2JmWy26_c
 
 
2 hours later…
7:09 PM
@flyingfisch Looks like the helicopter was a little light on its landing skids, and maybe on loose snow or ice that let it slide?
 
ah ok
so not really a crash
 
(or my standard answer: A helicopter proved that all such mechanical contrivances are inherently unstable flying deathtraps. No sane person would get in one!)
I don't think I'd call it a crash - a "landing incident" sure
looks like everyone got the hell out of the way before it could chop any people up, sot that's a good thing :)
(also, seriously? When it started sliding down the hill people didn't run?! Are people STUPID?!)
 
@voretaq7 I thought you already knew the answer.
btw, on snow, everyone and everything needs to latch on to something. A helicopter isn't an exception.
 
@Farhan I still come to expect a healthy amount of basic lizard-brain self-preservation! :)
Yeah it's a bit odd he came down on a slope like that
 
@voretaq7 Lizards don't post real-life-drama on youtube and wait for it to go viral.
 
7:24 PM
@Farhan . . . they have humans for that: youtube.com/watch?v=qH0La4zPhTQ
 
I think the helicopter pilot lost situational awareness got confused, otherwise he could have lifted off.
@voretaq7 that does appear a lot like two lost friends reuniting after a long time.
 
Just remember, when a lady lizard says no she means "I SWEAR I WILL BITE YOUR TAIL CLEAN OFF IF YOU DON'T LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE!"
 
8:02 PM
@Farhan it looks as if he already powered down, getting the rotor spun back up and trying to takeoff would have made that a much more dangerous situation
 
8:31 PM
@casey Yup, those landing skids weren't for snow.
This PDF should be read before landing on snow.
hey @voretaq7 how did you find out that my referenced image was a copyright violation?
 
@Farhan ...which one? (I declined a bunch of spurious copyright things, the only one I think I zotted was the Larsen comic because he is pretty explicit about "I'm not licensing this stuff for online use")
((which is kinda ridiculous - it's like the Napster BAD logic that was disproven when shared music actually had more people buying albums, but whatever...))
I don't think I ever explained my flag-handling/moderation style: "Completely arbitrary an capricious: If you don't like the result flag again 24 hours later and the random number generator may give you a different answer" :-)
 
9:14 PM
Am I missing something in this discussion? I'm still not sure what point he's trying to make...
But I know (from experience) that if I call the Coast Guard to report a foundering vessel they're going to want my latitude and longitude to the nearest minute, and I assume CAP would work the same way: Any other location info I give gets put on a chart and converted to D/M/S (? any CAP folks around?)
 
9:27 PM
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9:38 PM
@voretaq7 Yup, that was Larson's. I didn't realize it first and saw that same image on several website. I think I got mine from PPrune.
 
yeah his stuff is all over the place, it's just not supposed to be :P
 
@voretaq7 Yup, that poor guy had explained the emotional cost to him of people displaying his cartoons on their websites.
 
I'm not sure I buy the "emotional cost" as much as I do "UFS might drop me if I don't make some noise about this", but meh.
 
9:53 PM
What's UFS?
 
@voretaq7 If you're missing something then I'm missing it too. If you're circling overhead then your fix is going to be pretty accurate, at least from the point of view of a professional S&R team that often has much less to go on
 
 
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11:27 PM
@falstro I did learn how to check the fuel bowser for contamination, though
 

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