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voretaq7
voretaq7
12:09 AM
There's a requirement for XC PIC time to qualify to take the checkride (plus the training reqs)
I'm slowly crawling my way toward that mark one $100 hamburger at a time :-)
 
AndyML
AndyML
12:37 AM
@voretaq7 Ha! Exactly what I'm doing. There's an amazing $100 hamburger 51.5 nm from my home field. I can usually fill a plane every few weeks to head there.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
We have a few of those - I try to respect the intent if the rags & go "somewhere new" though
Plus we have airports with cool approaches (20N is still one of my favorites)
 
AndyML
AndyML
@voretaq7 There's only a handful of nice $100 burgers in my area. Many of them surrounded by golf courses... One that frequently has golf carts on the runway.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
well that's not cool!
 
AndyML
AndyML
12:58 AM
@voretaq7 My friends find it hilarious until I tell them the cost of a go-around
I tell them that the golf cart on the runway cost us our appetizer, lol
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
hah, a go around is ALWAYS cheaper than the alternative :-)
Also the FAA finds these things hilarious too...
 
 
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casey
casey
3:34 AM
You want a real disincentive to go around, the pilots at Mesa Air Group used to only get paid block, not actual flight time, so if they went around it was usually unpaid time.
 
AndyML
AndyML
@casey Yikes. There shouldn't be any disincentive to go around
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
4:33 AM
. . . I cannot believe I can't find a single photo of the new-style FAA registration certificate online!
 
Lnafziger
Lnafziger
4:49 AM
@voretaq7 Need one?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Lnafziger I can grab one on Wednesday when I'm at the airport, I'm just shocked there isn't one online already (or if there is, Google ain't telling!)
 
 
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Danny Beckett
Danny Beckett
6:20 AM
> A 16-year-old boy managed to stow away in the wheel well of a flight headed from California to Hawaii on Sunday—and then survived the 5-hour trip despite freezing temperatures, low pressures and little oxygen.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@DannyBeckett Small brain no need much oxygen
 
Danny Beckett
Danny Beckett
lol :P
it's a little scary though. thank Christ it was some numbnuts and not Al-Qaeda
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@DannyBeckett yes, thank god a 16 year old kid can bypass our worthless security theater extremely thorough and effective airport security procedures and stow away in side the wheel well of a 767. Surely a well-trained terrorist briefed on gaps in the system and intent on blowing up a planeload of people could never accomplish their goals
BRB, replacing smoldering remains of the Sarcasm Detector :)
 
Danny Beckett
Danny Beckett
that's exactly what I mean...
in unrelated, yet another stupid American, news:
lmao...
enough off-topic shit from me now :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
ProTip: You can't "powder" alcohol
and if you mix it with a sorbent it tends to evaporate out.
 
Danny Beckett
Danny Beckett
6:30 AM
@voretaq7 well apparently it's been done
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
You CAN however soak tapioca balls in alcohol and use them to get effectively shitfaced (though eventually the alcohol will evaporate out of those too)
 
Danny Beckett
Danny Beckett
holy... last off-topic bullshit, I swear:
Crazy Saudis change two wheels while driving the car
mental fuckers
 
falstro
falstro
6:50 AM
@casey That doesn't seem like much of a disincentive..? Docking your pay to cover the extra fuel costs, now that's a disincentive. It would seem being paid for actual airborne time seems like a disincentive to be on time..? :) It would be a lot easier if everyone was simply paid a fixed wage, I get that, since there are a lot of things that affect actual flight time.
@casey Although what's your definition of block time though? Out-in is block time to me, and that seems more fair than airborne time to me, although it still misses all the pre-/postflight stuff you do.
 
falstro
falstro
7:28 AM
And I should definitely start reading through my lines before hitting send. Seriously, that's a mess :)
 
Federico
Federico
7:43 AM
it is the first time I get to reach moderators powers, so I do not know fi this is common, but what's up with this answer?
http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/2507/can-passenger-movement-in-an-airliner-make-it-stall/2514#2514
out of 11 edit reviews, 6 has been rejects of spam vandalism on that specific answer.
is it simply that I pick up only those edits (statistical anomaly) or also you have picked up an intense spammer interest in that answer?
*if (geez, let me get another cup of coffee)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Federico it's a low quality answer that you can't really edit without altering the gist of it
 
Federico
Federico
7:56 AM
(make that 7 out of 12)
@ratchetfreak probably my english is worse than I thought. I mean that I rejected several spam attempts on that answer, I do not see how this is related to the quality of the answer (or its gist, for what matters)
[why the upload button won't work? :/ ]
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
oh I can't see/find the rejected edit on that...
 
falstro
falstro
 
Federico
Federico
8:12 AM
@ratchetfreak above one example
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
maybe it was shared on some spammer forum?
@falstro that is only the edits that I reviewed...
 
falstro
falstro
@ratchetfreak Oh I see, I get all of them
 
Federico
Federico
8:35 AM
@falstro you have more than 2000 rep, giving you access to mod tools. @ratchetfreak and me, we are ~600 rep short
 
falstro
falstro
@Federico yeah, I figured
 
Federico
Federico
@falstro at this point you could answer, I have picked up a statistical anomaly, or that answer is indeed targeted?
 
falstro
falstro
oh, right :)
yeah, seems to be targeted
it has a bunch of rejected edits
not just your rejections
 
Federico
Federico
thanks :)
 
falstro
falstro
8:54 AM
@Federico it has rejections from you, me, voretaq7, Qantas94Heavy, Jay Carr, DeltaLima, Radu094, and Gareth Ferneyhough. It looks like all 'proposed edits' are pretty much identical
16 rejected edits all in all
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
is there a policy on such spam edits?
like lock the answer to prevent more
 
falstro
falstro
9:39 AM
@ratchetfreak not that I know of, but given the volume SE is dealing with, I'd be surprised if there isn't something like IP-blocks. I vaguely remember SO having captchas if you're doing too many edits in a certain amount of time, but I might have it mixed up with some other site.
 
 
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falstro
falstro
1:18 PM
It appears Comedy Central has blocked non-US IPs from watching episodes of The Daily Show (and I assume the rest as well), what the...?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
I shake my head at region locking in general
 
falstro
falstro
@ratchetfreak it's idiotic. a) get some ad revenue, or b) get none... which will it be?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
C) sell to foreign tv stations
in Belgium the tv station TMF has a 3 hour block (or so) of just Comedy Central shows
remember that the sales guys will happily point to their site and say "this will be the only way these shows will be watchable in your country"
 
falstro
falstro
@ratchetfreak so you're honestly asking me to get some obscure channel package (expensive as ****), pick up a tivo (cause, honestly who's got the time to watch something according to some TV-schedule), to watch one show? Nope. Not gonna happen so -> b) it is.
well, not you you, but you get the idea :)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
actually that channel is part of the standard digital tv package (which includes "digibox" aka. tivo)
 
falstro
falstro
1:31 PM
@ratchetfreak well good for you then :)
you can't get anything which isn't dubbed here without coughing up a metric f*ckton of money. Pretty much.
 
casey
casey
@falstro "block time" is the scheduled, historical time. e.g. this plane is scheduled to depart X at 1200Z and arrive at Y at 1400Z, block time = 2 hours. "Actual time" is the time from your actual "out" time until your actual "in" time. Most carriers get paid "block or better", which is the higher of the two times.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
but if a station buys a season of the show then they have guaranteed income whereas advertisement income varies
 
falstro
falstro
@casey interesting, i think JAA (now EASA, don't know if they changed it) defined "block time" as between "off block time" and "on block time".
 
casey
casey
I guess in the specific instance of "block or better" it is implicitly taken to be scheduled block vs actual block
anyway the point is for those few carriers that don't get paid actual block, that disincentives anything that might delay a flight -- choosing to deice or not, deviating for weather, etc. Whether that has actually caused an accident or not (I roughly recall a flight that should have gone around not doing so, but can't remember details), it is one of the biggest talking points in justifying "block or better" from a safety perspective during contract negotiations.
 
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
This Day in Aviation: 22 April 1912
posted on April 22, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

22 April 1912: Departing at 5:47 a.m., Denys Corbett Wilson flew his Blériot XI from Goodwick, Pembrokeshire, Wales, across St. George’s Channel and landed at Crane, near Enniscorthy, County Wexford, Ireland, 1 hour, 40 minutes later. This was the first crossing of the Irish Sea from England to Ireland by air. Corbett Wilson, having flown in […] The post 22 April 1912 appeared firs…

This Day in Aviation: 22 April 1961
posted on April 22, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

22 April 1961: Jackie Cochran set 18 Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI) records in one day flying a Lockheed L-1329 JetStar, construction number 5015, FAA registration N172L, and named The Scarlett O’Hara. The route of her flight was New Orleans–Boston–Gander–Shannon–London–Paris–Bonn, with refueling stops at Gander and Shannon. According to the U.S. Centennial of Flight Commiss…

 
falstro
falstro
1:45 PM
@casey Oh I definitely agree with you, and I would personally be professional enough to do my best and minimize the cost for the company. I can see how some bean counter would always think the worst of people though and assume you'd go around a few times to increase your airborne or block time.
 
casey
casey
our contract prohibited our carrier for questioning anything judgments that were safety related. e.g. you would never be called into the chief pilots office to explain why you went around, or why you chose to get type IV fluid put on the airplane, or why you delayed the flight for 30 minutes for a squall line to pass
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@casey in other words when the answer would be "because it is safer that way" they didn't bother you?
 
falstro
falstro
@casey that's actually pretty cool
 
casey
casey
@ratchetfreak that same carrier I mentioned a while back that only paid scheduled time was known to fire pilots who did things like go around too many times
there is always a reason that specific language in the contract happens that way
and its usually because of things seen happening elsewhere that you don't want happening at your place.
 
falstro
falstro
I've never gone around in an aircraft I wasn't piloting. I've experienced one very scary touchdown though, RyanAir at Gothenburg City (yeah, decommissioned military airfield with a barn as a terminal) in a snow storm.
Floated what felt like half the runway, heavy touchdown, heavy braking and I'm betting the nosewheel was sniffing grass (well, snow..) when we finally came to a stop
@casey I'm guessing RyanAir has similar 'policies'.
 
casey
casey
1:58 PM
@falstro wouldn't surprise me
 
Philippe Leybaert
Philippe Leybaert
2:42 PM
WTF? Am I missing something here? See comments on aviation.stackexchange.com/a/1103/4
 
falstro
falstro
3:01 PM
@PhilippeLeybaert nah, it's all good. They're just too lazy to read.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
you have to admit legalese is very hard to read
 
Philippe Leybaert
Philippe Leybaert
That's what I thought. I was starting to doubt myself
@ratchetfreak I did my best to translate the legal text to something simple, and even went beyond that in the comments
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
3:51 PM
@ratchetfreak @falstro It's actually preferable to leave the answer unlocked and keep rejecting them (with the spam reason) - the network-wide anti-spam system feeds off those and will eventually do Bad Things to the poster.
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 Yeah, that's what I figured.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@falstro for suitable values of "preferable" (because it means we have to look at the shit until the Bad Things are done to the poster :)
 
falstro
falstro
4:05 PM
@voretaq7 :) Seems to be fairly manageable at this point though.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@falstro it doesn't ever really get bad - spammers target the sites because we're good google bait, but their edits keep getting rejected so they never get any click-throughs. Not worth the effort :)
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 you don't happen to have a socks proxy sitting around I could borrow? Comedy central has started doing geo-ip blocking for some reason... I guess I could launch another VPS in the new york datacenter :P
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@falstro not conveniently - TOR it? :)
or if you have a box with SSH in New York you have a socks proxy :)
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 yeah, that's what Im using so far. Just currently don't have a VPS stateside
sweden has been treating me well so far, allows me to get around a whole load of crap, like black-out restrictions (yey, MLB.com) and stupid-*** regulatory bodies like GEMA (yey youtube)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
4:33 PM
@falstro Fuck MLB.com
they barely manage to give me my streaming mets scores in a reasonable timeframe
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 they have a decent video streaming service though
or had at least
Canceled my subscription last year. Didn't get around to watching more than a couple of games per season.
 
falstro
falstro
4:56 PM
You know what I just realized. Airplanes are frickin' awesome. :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
just realized? :)
 
falstro
falstro
Nah, not really. But I keep coming back to that fact.
 
Farhan
Farhan
@falstro What motivation you had before this Eureka moment? ;)
 
falstro
falstro
I mean, these metric-ton-of-metal ... things ... can actually fly
airliners aren't as cool, cause they have jet engines, which are by definition magic
@Farhan the AOPA picture of the day
#AOPA photo of the day: Searey S-LSA. ^BW #genav #aircraft http://ow.ly/i/5jXjN
Tweeted by AOPA on April 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:19 PM
@falstro "With adequate thrust, even a pig can achieve orbit."
@falstro do aircraft registrations expire in Germany?
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 No clue
@voretaq7 sure, but that's like shooting a bullet. That pig ain't flying, it's simply not falling fast enough
@voretaq7 How do you mean expire?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
you have to re-register the plane with the FAA or they purge you from the database and your aircraft turns into an aluminum pumpkin
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 Ah. Hmm. No idea actually.
Probably
There are a lot of other stuff that can expire though, with the same result
@voretaq7 Don't have any obvious expiry date on them, here's an example dezkk.de/Eintragungsschein.pdf
@voretaq7 how's your German legalese?
It probably says if it expires or not, but I get lost in the grammar... ;)
My best guess is that it doesn't, but will (or should be, by yourself probably, I don't know) canceled if your insurance expires.
not that that makes much sense..
oh wait no, that's the airworthiness certificate
I give up :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:50 PM
@falstro Abysmal :-)
I have to remember to take a photo of my registration tomorrow - all the ones online are the old style
 
falstro
falstro
yeah, I noticed
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
wonder if it'll take as long for your regs to be updated as this "Part 23 rewrite" process is taking the FAA
 
falstro
falstro
It'll probably take a decade or two. And I don't intend to stick around for even half that time, so I don't really care. ;)
 
falstro
falstro
6:17 PM
Hilarious FAILS by Americans Trying to Label European Map http://amazinmaps.bestpicts.me/americans-try-to-label-europe
Tweeted by amazinmaps on April 22, 2014 at 6:03 PM
Although the maps are funny, I don't see how that's a fail considering most europeans probably wouldn't be able to the place even half the US states on a map, much less the canadian provinces. My guess is most of them don't even know there are provinces in canada. :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:28 PM
@falstro most US citizens can't fill in the US map
my geography skills are pretty good and I don't think I could fill it in without errors to be honest
in high school we were required to hand-draw the states on a blank map. Needless to say I failed that test :P
 
falstro
falstro
@voretaq7 Sure; I probably couldn't place all the 50 countries in Europe either.
and seriously, nebraska, kansas and wyoming are all rectangles, who cares which one goes where? :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
well also my history teacher that year was a total dick. I didn't like the guy, so I wasn't really motivated to do busywork for him
 
falstro
falstro
Those who can't do teach..
although I suppose everyone has had at least one great teacher at one timer or other
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:45 PM
I've had several. A guy who lets you get out of homework assignments if you wear a jersey for a sports team he happens to like? Not among them.
 
falstro
falstro
:)
Although if you're running for POTUS, I don't think it's ok to refer to a country as "Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan"...
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@falstro um... didjya see the last guy?
 
falstro
falstro
Wait, let's see it's Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan.... what's the third... hold on... uhm...
oops
@voretaq7 Yeah, about that, didn't someone conclude he was never actually elected?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@falstro He technically didn't win the first election (as best we can tell amidst the massive vote fraud and ballot destruction that is apparently rampant in this country)
He was technically (legally) elected for term 2
but it's OK guys -- DIEBOLD (the same company running ATMs on Windows XP) will save us with their (only-slightly-miscalibrated) touchscreen voting systems.
 
falstro
falstro
7:10 PM
@voretaq7 Oh, right, Diebold... now I remember :)
 
 
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Manfred
Manfred
10:01 PM
i think i should stick to the aviation beta, i don't seem to be very popular on stackoverflow... stackoverflow.com/questions/23230726/…
 
Farhan
Farhan
10:39 PM
@Manfred I feel the same way. Some people just love to get to other's mistakes. :)
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
10:58 PM
@Manfred that type of question isn't a good fit for SO. SO is really for questions in the format of "I'm trying to this, this is what I've tried, this has been the results, can you help me?" The question you asked would be a better fit on programmers.stackexchange.com
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
11:23 PM
@BretCopeland and even then you'd be lucky to get a comprehensive answer that doesn't include the dev did it this way and no the other unless it's buried in some obscure blog post somewhere
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
11:53 PM
@ratchetfreak that may very well be the answer though.
 

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