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6:41 AM
Does anyone know how the question is chosen?
 
7:10 AM
Also, found some stuff which MathJax broke:
 
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8:09 AM
posted on April 21, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

21 April 1911, Lieutenants Thomas DeWitt Milling and Henry H. Arnold, United States Army, received orders to proceed to the Wright Flying School at Simms Station, northeast of Dayton, Ohio, for flight training. This photograph shows him at the controls of a Wright Model B while at the school, May 1911. After completing the training, Lt. Arnold received Fédération Aéronautique […] The pos

 
That's a fuel price comparison. Sorry, didn't notice it didn't say so in the image itself.
 
8:50 AM
posted on April 21, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

21 April 1918: Rittmeister Manfred Albrecht Freiher von Richthofen, “The Red Baron”, was killed in combat at Morlancourt Ridge, near Vaux-sur-Somme, France. He was just 25 years old. A cavalry officer turned airplane pilot, Baron von Richthofen is considered to be the leading fighter ace of World War I, with 80 officially credited aerial victories. In January 1917, he had […]

 
 
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3:09 PM
Anyone in the US recommend a good rental-only pilot insurance company?
 
3:25 PM
@AndyML Check with AOPA
 
@Farhan Thanks
 
 
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4:41 PM
@AndyML AOPA's a pretty good resource. I'd recommend Avquest but I don't know if they do renter's policies.
 
5:24 PM
@AndyML Avemco does renters insurance (or at least used to, I had a policy with them in 2003)
 
oh, right, the vehicle isn't insured in north america, the driver/pilot is.
 
5:49 PM
@Lnafziger What would happen to your bounty if you didn't get a better answer?
 
 
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Q: Are model airplanes on topic here?

BigHomieJust curious, are model airplane questions on topic here? I don't know what else to put here so that the question is long enough to get past the bot.

 
7:52 PM
@farhan I could award it to the "best" of what's there, or the system would award it to the answer with the most upvotes.
 
8:07 PM
@falstro Both are actually
(the aircraft itself usually has hull coverage on the owner/FBO's policy which pays to repair/replace the plane, but that doesn't cover the operator if they crash into someone's house and get sued for killing a beloved pet/grandparent/child so smart renters carry a liability policy)
 
8:20 PM
@falstro the vehicles are insured. The airplane you rent will have its own hull policy, liability, and whatever else is needed and if you bang it up, the rental agreement typically makes you liable to pay the deductable on the insurance policy. Most of what renters insurance does is to payout the deductable you would otherwise have to pay on the airplanes insurance policy.
e.g. I bent a prop, and I owe the club $1000 to cover the decuctable for the insurance claim against the airplane. But, I paid some other insurance company a premium for renters insurance earlier this year, and so they will pay the $1000 for me, and probably raise my yearly coverage premium.
as for cars, yes and no, my policy for example covers my car and anyone who might drive it, but it also covers me and any car I might drive (to certain limits).
 
@casey A lot of commercial/fleet policies don't provide liability coverage to renter operators (e.g. if you bent the prop by hitting another aircraft you'd not be covered for the damage to the other plane).
 
true. I've primarily rented with clubs that were rather generous in their coverage, but that is definitely something to consider.
I wonder how many people getting checked out with new rental ops ask about the insurance policies they carry
 
@casey Way back when I started my training the first time (2005ish) NFI actually had a separate coverage you could buy as part of the rentals. It was a few bucks/hour and basically put you on the liability insurance for the aircraft. I don't think they offer that anymore though (probably because the insurance companies aren't happy about the idea of covering J. Random Pilot without ever verifying their times/training).
 
8:42 PM
@voretaq7 My local FBO will offer $10/hr to cover the deductible, but liability is still on the pilot. Most of the ones I've contacted require liability. Coverage on passengers is still optional.
 
@AndyML Yeah I don't think any FBO around here offers a "Give me $10/HR and you're written on the liability" thing anymore - I can't imagine any underwriters want to touch that
 
9:03 PM
lucky kid to survive that trip
 
@casey that's the wheel well guy? I saw that this morning & didn't read it yet
 
10:09 PM
@voretaq7 yep, wheel well, long haul up to FL380
cali to hawaii
 
@casey . . . impressive
 
I'm waiting to determine how impressive that is by evaluation of how much cognitive ability he traded for luck to survive that
 
@casey I would assume he was not burdened with an overabundance of brain cells or schooling to have attempted it, so "No serious damage"? :)
 
@voretaq7 :)
 
I always feel funny mailing letters to government lawyers
 
11:07 PM
Considering flying to a 4 day conference when only VFR rated. Ill-advised?
 
if you can plot out a VFR only route...
and have clear skies all the way
 
@ratchetfreak VFR-only route is easy. It's the weather returning that's 4 days after I commit.
 
having to hire a IFR rated pilot to get you home is quite embarrassing
 
@ratchetfreak no doubt
 
@AndyML Depends on the weather :-)
 
11:17 PM
storm rolls in and you are stuck for another 2 days
 
Would you be able/willing to stay in $_CONFERENCE_CITY for a day or two? :)
 
@voretaq7 That's what I'm thinking I'd have to do
 
posted on April 21, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

15–21 April 1928: Carl Benjamin (“Ben”) Eielson and George Hubert Wilkins, MC and Bar, flew from Point Barrow on the northern coast of Alaska across the Arctic Ocean to Spitsbergen, Svalbard, Norway. The distance was approximately 2,200 miles ( 3,540 kilometers). The crossing took approximately 20 hours, and was the first Arctic crossing by air. Their airplane […] The post 15

 
@AndyML "time to spare, go by air" - I've been forced to drive on a few trips I'd rather have flown for because weather on the way their or back was marginal and I couldn't afford the time.
 
@voretaq7 Great motto!
 
11:22 PM
(which REALLY SUCKS when a 1-hour flight turns into 3 hours on the New York State Thruway, lemmie tell ya!)
@AndyML Shamelessly stolen from about a million guys older than me (who probably stole it from guys older than them)
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, this is a 3 hour drive vs. 45 min flight.
 
@AndyML when I had to make that call it was "broken 4000ft" (with chances of isolated showers-to-rain & possibly dropping the ceiling) all along the route of flight, to an airport I'd only ever been to once before.
Of course the weather the day after I had to go was fucking beautiful and remained so for the next week, well after I would have been coming back - but the way my luck runs I would have been flying into dropping ceilings right as the terrain started rising :/
 
@voretaq7 Flat terrain here, but still not something I would ever want to go scud running in.
@voretaq7 Isn't that how it always works ;)
Now my 2nd question: Anyone have experience of navigating by iPad with a thick overcast ceiling? Is it reliable? I've only used it in milder conditions.
 
@AndyML yeah, too many towers and shit. With 3500-4000 foot ceilings I would have had fine obstacle clearance (though lower than I prefer to fly), but the chance of it dropping enroute would have wrecked my day, and in an Italian family it is NOT ACCEPTABLE to miss your cousin's wedding :)
@AndyML do foggles count as "thick overcast"? :)
 
@voretaq7 lol
@voretaq7 Don't tell me you've navigated by iPad with foggles
 
11:31 PM
@AndyML Only as an experiment with my instructor to see how accurate it was
 
posted on April 21, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

21 April 1942: Lieutenant (junior grade) Edward Henry (“Butch”) O’Hare, United States Navy, was presented the Medal of Honor by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in a ceremony at the White House. Also present were Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox, Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Ernest J. King, and Mrs. O’Hare. Lieutenant O’Hare received the […] The pos

 
@voretaq7 How'd it do? I only use it as a "loose" navigation tool
 
It definitely works (at least with the Bad Elf GPS I was using at the time) - I was able to stay on-course about as well as I could tracking a VOR (it's not as easy as flying the needle though) - it's also highly illegal to use it as a navigational reference though.
@AndyML I wouldn't want to use it in real IFR - but I wouldn't want to use a Garmin magenta line either. The CDI needle is easier IMHO
I'll be installing my RAM mount on Wednesday which will probably help too - trying to navigate looking at the iPad in your lap really makes your head spin
 
@voretaq7 Interesting. It's still only a VFR tool, but a great one at that.
 
@AndyML "You can use whatever you want for situational awareness" -- you just can't file /G with it :)
 
11:35 PM
@voretaq7 Do you have your IFR?
 
@AndyML not yet - training on hold for a bit while I do "other stuff" to/with the plane :)
 
@voretaq7 I get that. It's a a long process.
 
I do know a couple of guys who "cheat" with the iPad though (file your regular route however you normally would, then when you're getting clearance (or after you're airborne) ask ATC for "radar vectors direct <SOMEFIX>"
If they're OK with it they'll give you a vector and you basically follow your iPad's magenta line unless they tell you otherwise.
 
@voretaq7 Ha, nice
 
it's a useful trick but hopefully I'll have an IFR GPS in the plane by the time I'm doing any real long-haul IFR navigation :)
 
11:46 PM
... Looking at IFR requirements again...
I have a buddy that does a lot of long-distance IFR. IIRC, majority of the instrument time doesn't require PIC.
 

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