"SideQuest brings another zine-focused TRPG event to 2021" article by Chase Carter for Dicebreaker. Indie initiative SideQuest 2021 bookends the year with a second zine-focused TRPG event that prioritises collaboration without platform loyalty.

"Making an HTML Dungeon" (youtube link) video by Nate Treme.

Dracula Owes You Money by Dusty Hill. Dracula Owes You Money, and you're going to get it back.

Upcoming Kickstarter: Suburban Consumption of the Monstrous by Pelgrane Press. An anthology of horror live action RPGs set in suburbia with themes of food and consumption, written by Banana Chan and Sadia Bies.

Beloved by Urania Games. A solo journaling game about playing a beloved childhood toy.

Gnomedic asks on twitter "What are some of your favorite 2-player ttrpgs and/or co-op board games?"

VAMP CAMP! by Sebastian Yūe. Attend a vampire support group to make friends, complain, and cause shenanigans.

"MONSTER PAMPHLETS" (tumblr account) Monsters for all your tabletop RPG needs.

Storygames Bundle by kumada1 and 25 others. Get 30 titles by 25 creators and go too deep into the woods, take a corpse on an eventful journey, drive cars into space with your family, and most importantly: come back with a good story.

riseupcomus wrote a twitter thread of games about "Walking around a place you’re specifically allowed to be in but can’t leave" and/or "An enemy that you can’t defeat through violence."

"Old-school inspired RPG Down We Go wants to make deadly dungeon delving approachable for all" article by Chase Carter for Dicebreaker. The OSR system is one of the first roleplaying games on Kickstarter alternative, Gamefound. (campaign link)

@V2Blast ooh, good point, maybe I need to go and find that document. DMs Guild?

@NautArch Well, finally, Brother and I are in agreement. I'll run White Plume Mountain, but those three (Bizarre) items are the key to closing an interplanar rift that is threatening the eastern coast of the continent we are on. I already set the hook/seed for the adventure tonight as we wrapped up the pursuit of the BBEG from the level 7 Candlekeep adventure, since he got away the first time.

And we have a narrative hook of my brother's character and his 'in world' brother (played by my best friend from high school) being prophesied to do something that saves the world, a hook that goes back to the back stories and char gen at level 1. we are both feeling good about how this somewhat haphazard character progression fell into our lap more or less by accident. .

I love it when a lack of a plan comes together ... 😂

Soooo, Dicebreaker did an interview about Avatar Legends and there's a lot of talk by small-press TRPG creators about the things that were unsaid or glossed over in the answers.

"Avatar Legends RPG designers were prepared for success, but nearly $10m on Kickstarter changed things" article by Chase Carter for Dicebreaker. And discussion threads begun by Monkey's Paw Games and Shing Yin Khor re: stretch goal bonuses for creators.

(Read the responses too; for example, Shing Yin Khor's thread has people pointing out earlier and earlier examples of small press TRPGs doing this, and how it's been a practice in small press comics for even longer.)

Chinese Ghost Stories We Tell Ourselves by Alyx. Be a member of a Chinese Family, collaboratively exploring and creating a Chinese Ghost story

@BESW Does this mean we should consider multicultural races, or multiracial cultures? Or both?

I read the article you posted the other day, about decolonisation & integration, and am thinking about how to apply it to my world-in-progress

I think it's always good to not get stuck thinking of any group of people as completely homogenous

heck even if we discount everything else good about it, I think it's boring to have say, a city state or empire or something that only has people that fit very specific criteria

to have say, Dragonborn, Lizardfolk, and Kobolds all in the same city with a mix of different cultures is just more interesting

don't read too much into who I picked as examples :P

@Adeptus Both, absolutely. Races aren't cultural monoliths, cultures aren't racial monoliths. Applies to all groups as Troggy says.

If you run into a group that presents as homogeneous, something's fishy.

I once worked with a project led by somebody from the continental USA, to make a coffee table book about CHamoru culture. The project lead figured it's 85,000 people across a handful of islands, how complex is this going to be? And then had to scrap about 60% of the text midway through the project because it had only been written with one island in mind, and it was saying things that were absolutely untrue about the culture on the other islands.

Even on the one island, the north and south were different enough the text's generalizations weren't all true for both.

No matter what group we consider, it contains wonderfully different people arranged in wonderfully unexpected ways.

@BESW kuo-toa or sahuagin?

@Ben that's interesting! Sounds like a good pick

@AncientSwordRage Even Lovecraft's fish-people were both racially and culturally diverse! ...Of course, that's because he thought it was scary...

@BESW I thought it was because they didn't start as fish people but as humans?

I can only remember one fish-people story anyway so...

The horror of Innsmouth for Lovecraft was twofold: the most obvious is that New England settlers were --gasp-- committing miscegenation, and their non-white ancestry inevitably override their whiteness (because that's how ancestry works in white supremacy); but also they had converted to an Indigenous religion (which Lovecraft made up to be as nasty as possible, of course).

An American sailor had encountered a (entirely fictitious) Pacific island where the locals had an excellent relationship with their local population of fish-people, sharing the fish-peoples' religious traditions and intermarrying between the groups, and this made them very prosperous. So when his own fishing town in New England stopped catching fish years later, he found the local fish-people in his area and set up a similar situation between them and his town. And it worked.

But this is Lovecraft, so all of that is a terrifying perversion which is supposed to make you quiver with loathing.

His ideas about interracial identity made it a bioessentialist horror story about how having multiracial ancestors dooms you to exile from whiteness.

But --in his allegory-- without the allure of multiculturalism, the temptation to commit to multiracial families wouldn't have existed.

@BESW yeah unfortunately a lot of cultures either present that way or at least look like they do from the outside

Aye. Often it's simply a matter of one group reducing its perception of another to unquestioned stereotypes.

But sometimes a group compels atypical members to present as normative, or suppresses their visibility.

@BESW there's a member for this sociological phenomenon... I just can't remember it

Remember a couple years ago when some very vocal people on the Stack Exchange assumed that queer users were all newcomers?

Well a name for a theory about it at least

@BESW no, (un) fortunately not

I won't re-hash it. You've probably seen similiar assertions in lots of communities.

@BESW I do remember at least one innsmouth story really I should get a better book on HPL that wasn't edited/doctored/propagandized in foot notes by S. T. Joshi

@BESW yes. tries to think of new topics

Anybody know of TRPGs that involve a diegetic interaction between characters and players?

Like how in Hades, Zagreus learns a major plot point from the narrator; or in Jenny LeClue the author and the character argue about what the character should do.

I suppose in film "Stranger Than Fiction" would be an obvious example, but I'd prefer works where the interaction isn't the driving force of the story.

@BESW unfortunately not, but I'd also be interested

@BESW yeah

I would also accept other games with elements that deliberately mess with the story boundaries, like how InSpectres is mostly a perfectly ordinary game but then there's the Confessional mechanic which intercuts the narrative with reality-show-style confessional scenes, thus reframing the entire game's premise.

I'm afraid all the games I know are ones you already know

XD

@AncientSwordRage I've been thinking about classes and playbooks. What's a class you've recently enjoyed?

@BESW the only class I've recently even played is a warlock

@BESW but I've definitely noticed a pattern in some characters I like to play is "Character discovers item/something about self and is cursed with suck/awesome"

c.f. Spider-man

Hmm, I can't think of a good reason to have accepted answers pinned. Surely there must be one though

The situations I can think of can be solved by flags and bounties instead

Some hardliner stances argue that we are here to solve an individual's problems and that their acceptance signifies closure, arguing that we shouldn't necro the catalogue, close or edit old questions.

@Akixkisu there's definitely a swathe of questions like that

By design, we are curators of a catalogue repository. Any question, regardless of its age, has equal significance.

@AncientSwordRage The Chosen from Monster of the Week

meta.stackexchange.com/a/369571/526695 argues that moderators and staff should receive the tool to change accepted answers, so they can resolve situations where the accepted answer doesn't represent consensus.

@BESW that doesn't feel like the right to me?

I'd say I'd want to play some part Spooky maybe some part Monstrous, a little dash of Mundane (because that's who they were 'before' the curse, and at least one of my warlock character ideas used to be the initiate...

"Which Masks Playbook is Spiderman?" by Brendan Conway for Magpie Games.

@BESW that's interesting!

@AncientSwordRage Looks like the PDF links to the playbooks are dead, so here's all of them in one file

Janus is pp 09-10

@BESW (is that one you like...?)

It's the classic Spider-Man "torn between two lives" playbook.

ahh right

Maybe name dropping spider-man was a bad idea, because that's not the aspect I was thinking of

I was thinking more of "This is my gift, this is my curse" part and the "With great power, comes great responsibility"

but also, like... how do I turn this bad thing, into a good thing

Check out The Doomed? (pp07-08)

I'm not big on superhero TRPGs myself, but Masks is widely considered an excellent option and it uses playbooks, hence why I brought it into the conversation.

@BESW that's a really close fit

I was going to mention El Diablo from DC (I've only seen the Suicide Squad version) or Eisenhorn after he gets his demonic book/demon friendo

And of course, as with many such games, Masks' playbooks all have "yoink something from another playbook" built into their options.

@AncientSwordRage I think Raven is a big influence on The Doomed.

@BESW it's VERY obvious from the art :D

eyup

Raven always felt more like (and I'm only going from the cartoons) she had this past she was escaping, but she wasn't doomed by it per se?

@Akixkisu But SE guidance itself hard disagrees with that. We're here to solve an individual problem so that others with the same problem also have a solution. Building a compendium of knowledge. Actually... I might just turn that into an answer

@AncientSwordRage I'm not super into her lore, but frequently she's literally the portal through which her demonic father intends to invade reality.

@BESW that does feel pretty doomed

well intends though

it's not like, fated as far as I understand it?

that being said I also only know anything from the show

@ThomasMarkov I'm not sure the grappling one is a dupe, since it's about hitting the creature before you are Grappled, but I also can't think of a meaningful difference

@Medix2 What about the cantrips one?

Also, the new grapple thing is about the enormous tentacle, which may be a special case of sorts

@ThomasMarkov Definitely think it's a dupe, and maybe some of the related ones I posted are as well, gotta check more thoroughly

You gonna answer the tentacle one if I reopen it?

Probably not, never run a game with one

@trogdor for me, the key part is that your powers come from whatever things is ... hanging over you ?

Looking at the cantrip stuff, they all seem unique to me. Except the latest one

Ive reopened it, but Im gonna make the title more specific.

Actually the title is fine.

I had sort of assumed she learnt her magic separate from her father? In which case that break would have made her less doomed

It's fine. Th whole "the entire creature is the weapon" things makes this unique, I think.

I think a good answer would pull on Ropers, Froghemoths, and Enormous Tentacles. And table experience of course

@AncientSwordRage She learned her magic in order to better oppose her father's attempts to force her to let him through; her ability to use magic for anything else is a bonus. And when she goes Scary Powerful, that's opening herself up to her father's power enough to use it, while trying not to open so much that he can take control.

@BESW the wikipage seemed to say a lot of her powers are inherent to her half-demon nature

Yeah, but her control of them is not.

> As a Cambion, Raven has an array of abilities

@BESW hmm that's an interesting distinction

And of course, different authors, different reboots, etc.

as per usual then I guess :D

@ThomasMarkov would you believe we both went and posted that same SEDE query around the same time

@doppelgreener Great minds and all that.

:D

@doppelgreener I'm leaning toward something like "the problem SO is trying to solve isnt really a problem for us"

it's not, but then also, the problem SO was trying to solve with pinning the accepted answer also wasn't a problem for us

@ThomasMarkov I read your DGtS guideline meta post, about what to do with an underspecified question

do you have guidance on how searching for tags makes such questions harder to find if we don't edit in tags?

so say I got looking for dwarves [dnd-5e] I wouldn't find an answer that wasn't tagged as dnd-5e, even though it might have an answer that guessed that as a system and put it in the answer

hmmm

Gonna do an experiment.

I see your experiment

I dont think searching the tag will pick up answers containing the tag.

@ThomasMarkov darnit

Anyway, my answer to your question is "Yeah, it's unfortunate that such answers won't show up in tag searches, but we don't know if the question should actually have that tag, so we shouldn't add it."

that's completely fair

@AncientSwordRage sorry I don't quite get that one

is that back to referencing spiderman?

Pinning accepted answers is effectively a wash for this site, I think. If accepting an answer really mean that it had been materially useful in solving your problem, there would be great value in prioritizing it. But between the built-in incentive to accept any answer (for +15 rep!), the frequent peer pressure to accept an answer (comments bugging askers to accept answers), and the low visibility of the relephant guidance... "accepted" is an effectively meaningless stat.

All it means for sure is that the asker returned to the site at least once after an answer was given.

It's interesting to see what answer got accepted, but practically speaking it's sufficiently undifferentiated from noise that pinning it doesn't make useful information more readily available.

@ThomasMarkov Meanwhile, I'm not seeing any benefit to having accepted answers at the top. I've even seen people go "See, this one is at the top so it's correct" when the immediately next answer scores 100 points higher

@Medix2 "next answer score 100 points higher" is actually only 5 questions

It's called hyperbole XD

And only one of those has an accepted answer that was poorly received.

I've seen people take years of regular site useage before they figured out that you can sort answers by votes/active/age. The interface is nonsense, and pinning accepted answers gives them undue weight in an already obtuse system.

The rest are quite positive, the highest scoring answer just got more votes.

There's a difference between being poorly received and having a lower score than another answer

@trogdor the playbook

In particular, so long as the Stack's own rep system bribes new users to accept ANY answer just to get the points for it, pinning accepted answers is less than meaningless.

I might write an answer just saying that pinning accepts isn't helpful; but I need to go find SE guidance on being a compendium of knowledge

@BESW I can't explain why but some part of me really likes the accepted answer being pinned, despite all evidence suggesting that an accepted answers is at times, as you said, less than meaningless

On the other hand, simply unpinning accepted answers without adding some way to find them quickly when you want to, is actively obscuring information, however dubious. I don't wanna have to scroll through several essay-length answers to find which one was accepted, if/when that's something I want to know.

@KorvinStarmast Great idea! Short term ownership with a good reason to give it up.

@AncientSwordRage Honestly? There's one really good reason I can think of to pin accepted answers, always and forever.

And that's the reason at the very bottom of the Stack's priority list: treating users like people.

@BESW Agreed. This is all about individual questions with individualized answers. That's also why I'm not a fan of generalist questions.

Pinning an accepted answer is a form of communication. It's feedback not just to the person being accepted, but to everyone afterward, which tells a tiny story: "I'm a real person who came back and responded."

@NautArch I have a habit of drifting towards those....

Every time we see an accepted question, it's a reminder that we're interacting with people who really DO have problems they're hoping we can solve.

Right, but we can see that they are accepted whether that answer is at the top or not?

And ,yes, sometimes we have people who accept they answer they want rather than what's right. But those are pretty few and far between.

@NautArch And some are self-answers which aren't pinned anyhow

That bit of humanization is the best reason I can think of to pin accepted answers. And the fact that it's such a remarkable moment that we'd feel its loss, is probably a damning commentary on everything else about the Stack's design.

@NautArch and on some stacks we have people who pester people to accept answers, which'll sway things

@BESW we need some way or linking to it from the Question, and some way of the community marking stuff as out dated (which is in the works?)

There should be more paths to humanization so that we aren't placing so much emotional significance on an otherwise broken feature.

@BESW SE has always been in conflict about humanisation vs being a repository of knowledge

It's generous of you to say that the Stack sees it as a conflict.

@Medix2 That'd be a good thing to see, but I bet you're right.

see the issues around 'be nice' where the people who 'weren't nice' (by some standards) were trying to remove the less useful information

@BESW I mean the staff, the mods, the users, the 'expert' users etc.

and we're back to pearls and sand etc

Behind every vote stands a community member, most of them, probably, human. Why should their voice matter less than that of one querent?

@Akixkisu How do ferrets' voices stack up against humans'?

@ThomasMarkov ferrets get two votes and birds of prey get three.

@Akixkisu I'd gladly upvote an answer along those lines

@Akixkisu Because it is the querent is who is asking the question. It is their choice that matters, because they are the ones who are directly invested.

If others find that Q&A helpful, that's awesome - but I think the goal is to help individuals and by doing so helping the community.

@Medix2 I'm not going to write an answer, because it would matter too much that I'm the person answering which I do not want reflected in the votes.

@Akixkisu what?

I think they're saying that the automatic "you are answering your own question: DOWNVOTE" would be bad

We should also consider how the problem relates to Fastest Gun in the West.

@Akixkisu because the querent is the one who posed the initial question?

@Medix2 In my experience self answering on meta doesnt carry the same stigma.

@AncientSwordRage That, and I also asked an incendiary question just a few days earlier, which might impact decision making. I prefer to be on the save side and just let somebody else answer.

A pinned accepted answer has often overcome a FGIW answer.

We'll see less of that without pinning.

@ThomasMarkov FGIW?

Fastest Gun In (the) West

got it.

Free Grits in Wisconsin

Do you want more Free Grits in Wisconsin?

If they are cheese-less, no

@ThomasMarkov didn't their SO meta post try and take that into account?

Nah, I'll stick with squeaky cheese.

@Medix2 That's just polenta!

@AncientSwordRage I dont recall seeing grits or wisconsin mentioned, but Ill check again.

Thanks for the bounty @ThomasMarkov :)

@ThomasMarkov Enter: bounties

And I agree the tentacle question is different.

@AncientSwordRage oh sorry I'm about to fall over and also haven't been paying attention to everything in the chat

XD

@NautArch My standards are getting pretty low. I'm giving you a bounty for being able to read.

@trogdor places cushions around troggy

lol

@ThomasMarkov Literacy is important!

Imagine waking up in a pillow forte that somebody else built.

Rather, for just reading the rules and not feeling like you need to go elsewhere to find the answer.

Obviously you have to be able to read to understand dumb tweets :P

I'm gonna back off from the current answer to the accept-pinning Meta because the justification used goes so against one of the cores of my philosophy. Like a "I don't even know how to argue this I disagree with it so much" sort of thing

@Akixkisu puhoy!

Downvote ahoy! Howdy @GcL!

Just catching up downvoting all these chats.

@Medix2 Perhaps you need more time to look at what pinning an answer does, and then argue why one person shouldn't wield that power over the community.

@Medix2 "Visibility here isn't just about which answer happens to include the funniest turn of phrase or to espouse the view that most mollifies the masses." My perspective is that our quality control has more or less fixed this issue.

@ThomasMarkov I mean, the specific thing that I'm dealing with is this comment which feels like "If we can't fix all of it, don't fix any of it"

This answer is unfortunately still a thing, but we don't see much of this anymore.

@ThomasMarkov in an alternate universe the "Just Play D&D" answers get voted to the top and never leaves the top spot....

@Akixkisu I've always found the commenters that report if a solution worked to be useful... and sometimes entertaining. "Tried this solution, but used a garbage disposal instead of a glove, now my fingers hurt."

@Akixkisu Pinning is tacky.

But it's also pretty clear people have different feelings about pinning and even accepting in general, and I don't feel I know enough about the history behind Stack's decisions with this feature to know why it should/shouldn't be there. I also don't have the free time right now to go on a multi-hour history lesson

For what it is worth, I don't want to burden mods/staff with the duty to decide to change accepted answers. That sounds like horrible pressure.

I think that proposal has way too many upvotes.

@ThomasMarkov I think the answer IS useful (to me at least), and it's more than a comment, but it's also clearly not supported or rules based

@Akixkisu Agreed, and it'd be an entire Meta just for each one... feels like a mess

@Akixkisu I think the proposal proposes multiple things and is getting weird votes because of it

@ThomasMarkov Ask silly questions, get silly answers.

I kinda want to post an answer to the effect of "Let's just leave things like they are because nobody on this stack cared until just now".

@ThomasMarkov People certainly cared, but caring and writing proposals require a different kind of investment.

@AncientSwordRage I'd opt to not upvote then. YOu could chose to not downvote as well, but really those answers shouldn't be upvoted.

@Akixkisu And there were already proposals, so people would've already expressed their cares too

@BESW i'm with you on that, as well as on the humanizing factor

@Medix2 That comment doesn't sound like a utopia fallacy to me. Sounds like, "this appears to be inconsistent, and I like consistency."

@BESW yeah for real

im gonna stop talking till ive read Doppel's response.

@doppelgreener It stands out because the rest of the Stack is built on the "wisdom of crowds" and then there's this one brilliant moment on every page where the interface has enshrined the opinion of an individual.

@ThomasMarkov I think I've come to a decision re: Frostmaiden Tests.

@BESW you're right. the rest is human resource fungibility all the way.

But gosh, as it stands that opinion is expressed in a way that's terminally unclear, as is whether or not it actually embodies an opinion other than "I want rep" or "I was told I have to accept something."

or "this is the one I'm going to go with" [and later discarded because it didn't work at all]

@doppelgreener I feel seen

@doppelgreener You got me here: "the highest voted solution is the one the community hive mind is recommending, in general, for people expeirencing this problem, in general. And that's what we should be presenting to site visitors as the first solution they see."

typo and all?

There is great potential value in the mechanic, but as is that potential is obscured when it's realized at all, so pin, don't pin, let's call the whole thing off.

Yup.

:D

I find it telling on the technical sites when the accepted answer begins as the most voted, but loses that status over time as the question and answers age. The solution of 2015 may not be the solution of 2021, and I do find myself scrolling to find other highly upvoted or commented answers on those stacks.

The whole proposal feels like a cosmetic fix to a bone-deep problem.

@BESW there's something to look at there for sure. like the system asking "why did you accept this?" could be a helpful thing to do. that naturally asks for the extension of: "why did you upvote this?"

@doppelgreener some Reddit sites require an explanation for posting, could be a similar case?

@doppelgreener And then we get into the "don't use comments to explain your vote" policy and realize that maybe the Stack's dedication to being Not A Forum has some troublesome unexamined assumptions.

It's like when I joined a discord server that was for professionals to talk about their field and Would Not Become A Community, and there was a "share pictures of your pets" room.

@NautArch I'm not in a mood to write a detailed answer, but if you'd like some more input: I consistently kept the penalties, and they lead to higher stakes and real threats - but the characters are also strong enough to expend resources to deal with them. While during the moment, things got hairy, I felt that it made for the best narrative to keep them as designed - both for regular play and running them with Gritty Realism rules, making them exceptionally tough and costly.

like if i see an answer and my evaluation is: "i think this is the only answer here that's correct but it's an almost illegible explanation of it and also the author's just being a jerk here and also this is incomplete", what do i do? that's a decade-old problem that doesn't have a solution provided by our binary feedback mechanisms

@Akixkisu Did any die?

@doppelgreener ping me and ill write a better correct answer :P

@NautArch With Gritty Realism, yes and with regular rules, almost.

@ThomasMarkov that's pretty good actually

@BESW Is american work culture to blame for training people that expressing who they are is bad (but pets are safe) ?

@NautArch and I have to add that the Gritty group was in a state to prevent the death, but their decisions lead to the death.

@AncientSwordRage Since this was mostly moderated and populated by SEA professionals, I'm gonna go with "...maybe? By cultural osmosis? But probably not the major factor here?"

@BESW yeah maybe not

@AncientSwordRage Safety regulations often suppress self expression in certain work environments.

@doppelgreener And I suspect that when we reach the end of that road, the signpost will read "you could've spent all this time making a better forum."

@Akixkisu Yeah, there wasn't much chance to prevent this potential death.

@NautArch I mean, we could have just not been dumb lol

@ThomasMarkov I'm mainly thinking that because in 49 states you can be fired without explanation, that sharing something the boss dislikes could be a reason for them to fire you

@ThomasMarkov What else would you have done?

Like yeah, we didnt know that the test mechanic was forced exhaustion levels, but we should have put two and two together and not sent the low-CON wizard who already had exhaustion levels into the Test of Endurance.

@BESW I'll be honest, after years of reddit/SO I find it grating to go to places like enworld, purely from a layout point of view

@ThomasMarkov when you put it like that?

@AncientSwordRage My boss is a die hard Clemson fan, and I sent him a picture of the box score from Clemson's loss last week right before asking for vacation. He roasted me for not being as smart as he thought I was then gave me the time off.

@BESW Why even have pigs if you can't put lipstick on them?!

@ThomasMarkov you have a good boss

@ThomasMarkov That is not untrue.

@AncientSwordRage Remember when people thought Discourse would be the next big thing?

@AncientSwordRage Yeah, I told him if his he doesnt want me to give him a hard time about Clemson losing, he needs to tell them to stop losing.

@ThomasMarkov HAH

@ThomasMarkov cf. dumb reasons to be fired

@AncientSwordRage I gotcha. I was thinking in the context of food processing where federal regulations are pretty strict about what you can wear.

@ThomasMarkov those wouldn't be dumb/unexplanable reasons

@AncientSwordRage Yeah, I imagine most people don't want to find fake fingernails in their food.

@ThomasMarkov it takes all sorts though I guess

@NautArch I think it is reasonable that the tribe will preserve the body of anybody sent by Auril.

@doppelgreener can I steal your answer format later?

@ThomasMarkov In the context of drug production, another very regulate field, I nearly got fired for fixing the labels on drug bags fixing an issue where the content quantity was off by an order of magnitude.

@Akixkisu preserve how? And mind if I make up a room for us? Gotta keep THomas out :)

Sure

@AncientSwordRage sure!

@BESW at the very least, i'd be very interested to find out what a good Q&A looks like that doesn't go "no discussion! forbidden!"

It's almost like giving help with any but the most straightforward tasks requires talking story.

@doppelgreener Please report to Central Computer.

(It's something we see in "how do I improve my game" answers a lot: make space before/after the game for unstructured conversation, and everything that happens during the game is liable to become magically smoother.)

@BESW I don't even remember that.. software?

We used it for the asynchronous parts of Fate Core pre-release testing.

@Akixkisu The votes suggest otherwise

It was supposed to be the next phpBB or something like that, I dunno.

@BESW that's kind of how I feel about this interface change

@BESW and who appreciated the solution offered

It was very snazzy, but it was released at the height of G+, which probably didn't do it any favors.

@ThomasMarkov Do they even serve grits in Wisconsin? I have no memory of eating grits in Wisconsin in the few times I have visited there. Hash browns a plenty, though.

one way i could deliver that is by having a sort of discussion environment where someone asks about stuff, individual users can start threads responding to it with discussion for clarification, actual solutions people discovered can be packaged together as answers presented as first-class citizens pointing back to contributors, the threads and specific messages that helped hash it out, etc.

in theory the community vetting a solution has a significant place, but there's no reaosn that needs to be a numerical ranking system.

@Akixkisu that happens to me now and again, by accident, since my wife sleeps with a lot of pillows and I just use 1. Sometimes, if she has restless sleep, I end up in something like a pillow fort when I wake up in the morning, and occasionally that fort is topped by Dogzilla (our 90 pound golden retriever)

@KorvinStarmast dg's answer has 5 upvotes. Or are you talking about another instance?

when someone provides an answer to a rules problem that's verifiably wrong or an answer to a social situation that's verifiably harmful, there needs to be some capacity for response to that. but that could be expressed as a response mechanism tailored to "I think this answer is wrong / harmful and should not be followed"

@Akixkisu I don't know, depending on who you ask, old questions might be totally exempt from present-day quality standards.

@ThomasMarkov Yes, we do have a pretty vocal group in the community who holds that position. Though even then, it doesn't look like they are downvotin her post right now.

@KorvinStarmast Conquering the fort in the morning and defeating Dogzilla sounds like a fun adventure :)

@Akixkisu I find your implied assertion of an egalitarian status to be unfounded. The thought in my head as I was responding to you was something like "All questions are not of equal value"

@BESW hehehehehehehe

@Akixkisu yes, but I have to sometimes make a saving through against drool and large tongue to the face and dog breath. 😮 Failing that save leaves me in the slobbered condition