TRPG General Chat

Ryan

12:00 AM

someone can cast a light, there's torches, we've got options

NautArch

@Ryan yeah. If you're the only one without, that may cause issues. Hard to be sneaky when someone has to have a light.

V2Blast

@NautArch It's a similar set of vehicle rules as those in Acq Inc and GoS, from what I know - not quite the same as the DMG.

Ryan

true true

NautArch

@Ryan and the ranger is often the sneaky one

Ryan

ah i wasnt really planning on being sneaky

V2Blast

12:17 AM

but... Pass Without Trace!

:P

it's a very useful tool for sneakiness, though it doesn't obligate you to play a sneaky character or anything

Ryan

i just want Zephys Strike. I don't even think I'll take Hunters Mark

Zephys Strike seems significantly better

NautArch

@Ryan increased movement and kiting over increased damage.

Ryan

Zephys Strike increases damage..

read online so maybe it was wrong... opens book frantically

NautArch

@Ryan just on one attack during the minute it's active. otherwise, it's a mobility spell.

Ryan

ahh either it was wrong or I read it wrong. I thought you got advantage on all attacks during the Zephyr Strike

i thought the Force was only one attack but the advantage was the entire time (which would be OP and why I liked it lol)

V2Blast

12:22 AM

yeah, just the one attack

advantage on one attack, and extra damage on that particular attack

and increased walking speed on that turn

Ryan

still Advantage on one attack with Sharpshooter feat is pretty nice but far less nice

seems like Beastmaster for Help Action and Sharpshooter Feat would be better +10 on one attack instead of two attacks

except then you don't get Horde Breaker

KorvinStarmast

1:24 AM

@Xirema role playing. That's the point of the MM variant familiar. Your PC makes a deal with it, it does not summon it. RP.

@GcL And in 5e, since that is how they built the game.

Ben

1:36 AM

trogdor

Lol

Hot RPG Questions

1:58 AM

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Q: Can a Creature at 0 HP Take Damage?

Inspired by this question (and a comment underneath it), I thought we should have a solid answer on the site for this question: Can a character at 0 HP take damage?

nitsua60

3:51 AM

How's everyone doing?

Good?

Good.

I'm going to bed.

trogdor

Lol

I actually am doing pretty good right now

nitsua60

Alright. Then you're in charge =D

trogdor

Nice

Xirema

4:25 AM

@trogdor What is your decree, sire?

trogdor

Be excellent to each other

9

Awesome.

XD

lol

5:10 AM

Is there a good existing tag for questions about mechanics for tracking (i.e. following the trail of someone/something)? I tried using the search and it's hard to find questions specifically about that topic because so many other questions use some form of the word "track" to mean other things (e.g. keeping track of expended resources, party loot, etc.) besides what I'm talking about.

Seems like a good candidate for a tag but I wanted to check if there was an existing one first

Ben

5:21 AM

there's resource-consumption?

V2Blast

That's the exact topic I'm not talking about :P

Ben

Yeah. That's the closest I could find. Which sort of answers your question haha

V2Blast

fair enough

Hmm... Do you think tracking is a clear enough name on its own (with soon-to-be-added tag info) for it, or can you think of anything better to avoid confusion with other topics like that one?

tracking-creatures occurred to me, but I feel it kind of leaves out the possibility of tracking mechanics in games that involve vehicles and the like

MikeQ

5:37 AM

@V2Blast If there was a clear need for it, "tracking" seems like an appropriate name

V2Blast

@MikeQ Thanks for weighing in. I do think it would be a useful tag :)

Ben

Maybe resource tracking?

Unless you are thinking of using it in a more general manner

V2Blast

Again, that's the exact thing I'm not asking about - that's the topic that makes it hard to find questions about the kind of tracking I mean. The kind of tracking I mean is what I mentioned above: "following the trail of someone/something"

Ben

6:01 AM

Oh right.

I got confused

For some reason I got it in my head from the get go you were talking about tracking specific aspects of a creature, i.e it's health, or how many spit venom attacks it has left.

V2Blast

lol, no worries. I figured my mention of "other things (e.g. keeping track of expended resources, party loot, etc.)" got you mixed up.

Someone_Evil

@V2Blast investigation?

V2Blast

@Someone_Evil That seems very different in scope:

> For questions about investigating mysteries and crime in-game. Finding and interpreting clues, interrogating witnesses and catching criminals is often crucial to such investigations.

Anyway, an update since I mentioned it here: I did indeed make the tracking tag and added it to the questions about the topic that I could find. :)

Someone_Evil

Wait, tracking exists. Oh, ok I see

Turns out my question list was set to newest, so it didn't show me the last edit time. My bad.

The Oracle

6:41 AM

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Q: How to handle a new user accidentally making multiple account and suggesting edits to their own question?

I just improved an edit from the suggested edits queue and I am trying to work out if I did the right thing. The original question is by a new user with 1 reputation. It was closed by Rubik's for lacking a system/edition. The edit added a lot of good information and clarified the question, howe...

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kviiri

@trogdor I got my basic water treatment setup ongoing!

trogdor

cool!

how did you set it up?

kviiri

And electrolysis wound up indirectly saving a lot of water since I need much fewer terraria.

@trogdor Sieve, a couple of buffer reservoirs, electrolyser in a closed, airlocked room (not perfectly but I can tolerate small leakages for now) with a gas filter venting hydrogen to a generator and oxygen to living areas

trogdor

that's actually how I have it set up right now too XD

kviiri

I also started renovating central areas to be more oriented around a single "main shaft" for heavy duty wires

and poles

I also renovated my sleeping areas to be enclosed since that apparently gives a Room morale bonus

trogdor

6:50 AM

yes

I suggest you make them large enough to get the better bonus eventually

so when you can finally make better beds you can just swap them out and don't need to rebuild rooms

(the better beds are also bigger too)

Powerdork

How are folks?

trogdor

pretty good right now

how about you?

kviiri

@trogdor Yea, I'm gonna re-re-renovate soon :D

trogdor

XD

Powerdork

Slightly off balance. I just ended a stream for viewership reasons.

kviiri

6:57 AM

I'm having no morale problems at this time so I'm trying to expand my resource inputs

@trogdor Algae terraria, to save algae, seemed like a great idea until I realized how much water they need and how much filth they produce. Lots of manual labor, lots of fresh water wasted x(

trogdor

@Powerdork ah, sorry to hear that

@kviiri yeah,... it's useful in it's own way but it's a lot of extra loot

kviiri

Yea, I wanted to conserve algae but now that I have electrolysis ongoing it's much less pressing

trogdor

you can also make more with slime

which I've done before but haven't bothered to this time because I got electrolysis up so fast

kviiri

Yeah, slime seems a bit of hassle for now although I'll probably want it at some point

trogdor

I think it might be more useful for farming or something rather than turning into algae, but I've never used it for anything else

kviiri

7:10 AM

My dupes managed to drain one of my main natural water reservoirs within just a couple of cycles, watering the algae

They're amazingly fast

I've been pumping water back from another, larger reservoir, and it takes ages :D

trogdor

yeah it definitely does

V2Blast

The Waterdeep: Dragon Heist campaign I'm in on Tuesdays is currently on hold due to the DM's computer totally failing :(

trogdor

aw dang :(

V2Blast

also had a player drop out and another player not show up in the L5R 5e campaign I'm on Mondays, so that session was canceled too

Pierre Cathé

7:29 AM

Morning all

kviiri

7:42 AM

Morning!

Matteo Devi

9:48 AM

morning

Got a qeustion: In the hurry of preparing last session, I accidentally gave the Aid spell to an Abjuration mage, without noticing it was acually a cleric spell (I justified it saying that the wizard that teached that to him used to work a lot with temples and studies divine spell magic flow and managed to replicate some of it.. bla bla bla :P ).

Do you think that a an Abjuration Wizard is too powerful with Aid?

Aid is a 2n level spell that gives +5 HP, it's an Abjuration spell, so when an Abjuration wizard cast it it get 5 + 2x level + int modifier temporary HP, plus 5 for every slot level above 2nd.

Sdjz

@MatteoDevi Do you mean from the Abjuration wizard's Arcane Ward? D&D 5e presumably?

Sirv

10:14 AM

I don't think you'll break anything with that

Abjuration wizards will probably activate their ward with mage armour anyway, so it isn't a huge buff in that way

It wouldn't be hugely better than having a cleric cast it

Sdjz

Although it is a significant improvement as the normal lvl 2 abjuration spell options for wizards are only arcane lock (or upcasting a lvl 1 spell)

Sirv

A cool thing to hand out to a player while you hand out a +1 sword to the fighter or something

true, but why do you want that?

Sdjz

just to make use of recharging the ward I guess

Sirv

if you are in combat, then casting it isn't optimal even with the ward recharge

and out of combat you have rituals to recharge

so its not a huge deal

it might help one time when you are under time pressure to have a quick healing session, but it would be the exception to the rule

Someone_Evil

@MatteoDevi Is this Wizard a PC or NPC?

Someone_Evil

10:53 AM

I assume this question actually makes sense, but as someone who has no familiarity with Burning Wheel I feel like I have had a stroke

V2Blast

@Someone_Evil What are B6 and 3D, I wonder

Someone_Evil

I also struggle with "uphrase" as a verb(?)

@V2Blast Positions on a chess board?

kviiri

Burning Wheel uses only d6 so I could reasonably assume 3D means something like "a skill for which I get to throw three dice"

V2Blast

@Someone_Evil oh yeah, that too. I assume it's a typo (of "up" + some other word. similar to "upcast") but I don't know of what

kviiri

Upraise!

Someone_Evil

11:01 AM

Ok, since you appear to be literate (unlike myself), does the question posted make sense?

kviiri

I'm not tremendously BW-literate, no

I know the tiniest tidbits

V2Blast

11:17 AM

@kviiri That was my guess

Someone_Evil

11:59 AM

Well, looks like the question made sense to the great prime die

goodguy5

12:10 PM

Well, that was exciting.... my work laptop dropped out of DNS for about 10 minutes, because... reasons?

Carcer

dark mysteries

Matteo Devi

@Someone_Evil a wizard pc

@Sdjz yep

@Sirv The player wants to build some sort of tanky battle mage.. I saw the spell and I just thougt that is was perfect for what the player wanted. But then i noticed it was a cleric spell. In fact I was wondering why he didn't pick that one on level up.. I was afraid some sort of cheesiness could be done with that but if that's there case i'll just homebrew some rules to balance it.

Rubiksmoose

12:38 PM

Hello friends :)

@Someone_Evil I love that. I had the same thought. Like what even are these words.

kviiri

1:10 PM

sup

@trogdor At first I thought ONI was easy, I mean I didn't get into trouble for quite a while into the game and assumed my heritage with Dwarf Fortress and Factorio helped me plan ahead.

But I realized that had I actually ran out of water, like I was very close to doing thanks to the heavy drinking of those algae terraria, I would've completely lost my already precarious calorie situation

goodguy5

O2NI is something I've been avoiding playing because I know it feeds into my obsessive game tendencies.

That's the kind of game that I'll "accidentally" stay up until 2AM playing.

kviiri

Heh, I know what you mean :-)

NautArch

1:31 PM

howdy howdy!

not sure if this is better for Meta, but should we treat DMsGuild stuff as WoTC when folks are asking for content, or is it more like homebrew where we should only recommend if we can talk about experience with it?

MikeQ

@NautArch Probably depends on the publisher. I think anyone can upload content to DMsGuild, so there's no assurance of quality beyond homebrew elsewhere on the internets

NautArch

@MikeQ Yeah, I guess it's a possibility of WoTC published it, but even then it's tricky.

MikeQ

Although some files are uploaded by trusted official or 3rd party publishers

NautArch

THey really made it confusing. I'm just not sure how to handle the content on there. It seems like an 'official platform' for any content. From trusted publishers to dandwiki level. But without any way to know.

MikeQ

Well, I suppose you could check the user who uploaded a file, and cross-reference that to see if they're a legit publisher

NautArch

1:40 PM

@MikeQ but does legit publishers mean that item is legit? Probably in most cases, but it seems like if you are going to recommend 3rd party, it should be something you've tried.

MikeQ

Generally speaking, answers should only recommend things that they've tried, if it's a matter of experience

And my experiences with other systems has taught me that "third party publisher" has no guarantee that the content is balanced or good or otherwise playable

NautArch

yeah, that's my hunch, too.

it just seems like DMsGuild legitimizes things more than it should.

MikeQ

This definitely warrants a meta discussion though

For any sort of recommendation / build / "does X exist" question, citing 3rd party stuff should not be the same as citing official material.

NautArch

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Q: Is the DMsGuild considered Homebrew and if so, should we always use the homebrew tag in parallel?

Based on this question, and the use of the DMs guild tag it made me wonder if the DMsGuild tag is an equivalent to Homebrew or if it should get both tags (one to identify it from DMsGuild and the other to let everyone know this still qualifies as Homebrew.) My concern is that the DMs Guild creat...

discussion tags

^Related, and I've clearly got a bone to pick with DMSGuild :P

goodguy5

D:

My biggest issue with them is how long their site takes to load.

Gwideon

1:54 PM

hello

kviiri

Hi

Gwideon

how is everyone

kviiri

A bit miffed at some off-topic news and popular responses to that.

Gwideon

what is this off topic news?

sorry I'm kinda oblivious

kviiri

A student wielding a sword attacked a vocational college they studied in in Kuopio, nine people including the perp were injured and one person was killed. Attacks like this are super rare around here and the reactions that irk me are basically nationalists already loudly shouting "wild guesses" about the motives behind the attack.

Gwideon

2:00 PM

oh okay. wow

goodguy5

you're in one of the "lands", right kiv?

the finn one, I think

kviiri

@goodguy5 Finland, yes

One of the most bigoted ones I saw so far was "even if the attacker wasn't an immigrant Muslim, their methods sure are". Yeah, found out a way to pin the blame on the Islamic community anyway...

Luckily most people have more sense than that.

Gwideon

oh wow that's....just dumb

goodguy5

"glad" is the wrong word, but I'm going to use it anyway.

I'm glad that it's not just the US with a bunch of people with... creative viewpoints.

kviiri

@goodguy5 Haha, I can emphatize :D

But yeah. I'm happy the police responded fast and the situation was over quickly. The perp was shot after threatening the police but was apprehended alive. Nice to have people tried for these crimes for a change.

Y'know, for relative values of "nice".

Rubiksmoose

2:07 PM

5

Q: What does '100% answered' mean in 'Today's Featured Site'?

Today's featured site is Role-playing Games and the card is shown as follows: RPG clearly has unanswered questions. What is meant by the '100% answered'?

support featured-site

Only 99.628% answered? C'mon you bunch of slackers ;)

The Oracle

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One of the tools that diamond moderators have at their disposal is the post notice. We have several different types of post notice for example, this one, for posts that require additional citations: Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to ...

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Gwideon

wait we got featured site

Rubiksmoose

Apparently :)

Gwideon

Nice ^^

so I found my dm notes

NautArch

2:25 PM

@Gwideon yay! Where were they?

Gwideon

they were in one of my classes on a table in the back. It was kinda hidden so yeah

I also got my curses done.

one of the curses I really like causes the targeted player to fall hopelessly in love with the first monster that they see.

MikeQ

It targets the player? That's some advanced level of DM skill.

Gwideon

well in order for a curse to be used a player has to use one of their sabotage points and tell me what player they want the curse to affect. I then roll on a table to see what curse is used.

this is all done within the context of an interdiminsional game show so it gives me an excuse to explain one shot unique mechanics in character

Yuuki

2:41 PM

@MikeQ Making players fall in love with monsters? That's easy, just make a goblin called... Boblin.

goodguy5

@Gwideon Mike is joking about the difference between effects on players, vs on characters.

Gwideon

oh i'm dumb. I kinda use players and character's interchangeably

goodguy5

It mostly only matters when one of them dies.

"One of our players got really sick, so we tore up his paper and left him to die."

is very different than
"One of our PC's got really sick, so we tore up his paper and left him to die."

Gwideon

yeah that is true

Someone_Evil

3:03 PM

I'm not sure you can use flags in chat to get things moved. I think you need BESW or a local diamond to move things. Not sure BESW can move things to EPoM, though.

Rubiksmoose

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Emilie

@Someone_Evil This :) You just pinged a bunch of mods who probably can't do anything about this. sorry!

Rubiksmoose

But you also happened to get me as well :)

goodguy5

Ah, I see.

Emilie

@Rubiksmoose Cheers! :)

Rubiksmoose

3:05 PM

No biggie.

Chat flags just go out to all moderators accross the site. They'll usually decine things if they don't know how to handle it or don't see what needs to be handled.

goodguy5

How should that be handled?

Rubiksmoose

It's probably best to just ping one of the mods or BESW and we should be able to help you at some point.

goodguy5

just ping one of you?

fair

Rubiksmoose

Yuppers!

Someone_Evil

While we're on the topic: chat flags go out to some 10k's as well?

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