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4:00 PM
hold on lemme dig up my copy
 
@MikeQ HELLO MY BABY, HELLO MY DARLING, HELLO MY RAGTIME GAL (casts message)
 
Yo... I'm getting solar panels and the previous company made a point, without me even asking, to tell me they didn't haggle so that I knew I was "getting the best deal they offered".

I decided to go with another company and emailed the first company back and the rep calls me that he "just got a lower rate" and cuts like 15% off his original number.
get out of here with that
 
haha found it!
 
@goodguy5 Technically speaking, it was the best deal they offered you at the time.
 
yea... I don't hold truck with liars.
easiest way to lose my business is to go back on something you said.
 
4:03 PM
@goodguy5 I don't truck period.
 
Similar reason I went with a different roofing company.

I had them out, they quoted me 7k. I said great; I'd just have to get the funds together. I call them a few months later and that guy no longer works with the company and they need to send another guy for a new estimate. now the price is 7700. "but if we don't do the gutters, I can get you down to 7k".

yea, alright buddy. get out of my house
 
@MageintheBarrel glam bard is all about enthralling or inspiring people with your magical beauty and charm, seems very idol to me
 
works for me
 
@goodguy5 Was it a written quote? Or just over the phone?
 
i like the part about love
 
4:05 PM
@Carcer Plus they can command their fans at whim
 
@NautArch a written quote
 
ALL BARDS DEPICTED IN THIS CAMPAIGN ARE 18 OR OLDER
 
@goodguy5 Was there a date on how long it was good for? It's quite possible material costs have risen(they definitely have...thanks trade wars) and if it's past the date then it's more reasonable.
 
very idolish
 
Free print-your-own Safety & Calibration Cards by dTwelves on DTRPG.
 
4:06 PM
working on a reflavor of the tiefling to be a nekomata or bakeneko
cat eared idol as my character
 
(I don't really like all their choices in content or design, but there's still stuff I appreciate in it and YMMV.)
 
@MageintheBarrel A tiefling could plausibly have cat ears and other feline features
 
I wonder if I'd get away with that
 
Ask your DM. It doesn't seem like it would break anything if it was allowed.
 
@MageintheBarrel As long as you don't mess it with mechanically.
 
4:08 PM
why not a tabaxi with demonic heritage
 
There wasn't a date, and the guy quoted rising material cost gave me a real smug expression when I blamed the trade war, which was enough reason for me to kick him out.

But I also know how much money gutters cost. And for my little Rancher, it's not $700
And add in the fact that the other guy could do it.
 
because tabaxi have actual cat faces not human faces with cat ears
 
you're already wanting to refluff something
 
plus that fire res seems really nice
 
@goodguy5 If there's no date, then the quote should be the quote.
 
4:10 PM
if your DM is willing to let you play a nekomimi idol bard in the first place I'm sure they'd be down with tabaxi as catgirls
 
@goodguy5 Usually estimates have a valid until date.
 
estimates are just estimates, quotes are valid until
 
nekomata are supposed to be demon like creatures which is why I choose tiefling as the base
 
then do that. I was just tossing stuff out
 
@MageintheBarrel Don't forget about the section on "Mutual Mistrust" - there is a downside.
 
4:13 PM
nekomata are also supposed to be evil spirits so the mutual mistrust would make sense
 
@MageintheBarrel Just don't expect towns/NPCs to welcome you :D
 
trust me i'm very used to being "unwelcomed"
 
@NautArch Why not? Bringing in a traveling pop star could be good for the local economy and morale.
 
@MikeQ Being a tiefling/flavored tiefling, though. The whole "mutual mistrust' thing.
 
@NautArch I don't know; maybe that guy doesn't work with them anymore because he was lowballing the company and they didn't like that.
 
4:15 PM
btw do evil acts count as evil if it's for a good reason.
like stealing food from a rich merchant to feed starving children
 
@MageintheBarrel If they did then every adventurer that kills a bandit would be evil.
 
@MageintheBarrel There's no rules on what counts as evil or not. It will be up to your DM/world.
 
or killing a corrupt noble whos above the lay
law*
 
@MageintheBarrel There's no correct answer for this. "Do ends justify the means?" is subjective.
 
assuming I wouldn't screw over my party by doing so o/c
 
4:18 PM
It's gonna depend on the action, the intent, the consequences, the context, as well as the players, DM, setting, and possibly phase of the moon
 
5
Q: When do sending stones recharge if they are in different time zones (or different planes)?

Ryan ThompsonThe description for a pair of sending stones says: Once sending is cast through the stones, they can't be used again until the next dawn. However, if the sending stones are far apart, dawn may occur at a different time for each stone. In this case, when do the stones recharge, and how often...

 
also I found this rather interesting is it even accurate
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?448542-Compliance-Will-Be-Rewarded-A-Guide-to-Lawful-Evil
also shut up bot noone likes you
 
@MageintheBarrel I muted that bot long ago
 
how do i mute it
 
Click on the name in chat -> ignore this user everywhere
 
4:21 PM
No Bot Bullying in chat. =(
 
thanks that thing really iritates me
bully is only if it's repeated and targeted
if someone iritiates me and I think i can get away with it I'll tell them to shut up
 
You are feeling sorry for this bot.

This is because you are crazy; the bot has no feelings.

Muting it is much better.
 
doesn't matter who
 
@HotRPGQuestions Aww, they just don't understand you. Who's a good bot?? You are! You are!
 
it's a collection of 1s and 0s even if it had "feelings" it would just be a longer string of those
 
4:24 PM
@MageintheBarrel You're a collection of 1s and 0s.
 
GOT 'EM
 
@MageintheBarrel I've often looked at this for alignment guidance
But in general, the rule is play your character. But Don't Be a My Guy.
 
actually I'm a collection of rubber, plastic, 1s and 0s
i'm a very advanced android who's sole purpose is to satisfy my "parents"
 
How IS Dr. Gero doing?
 
As far as any of us know, we're all bots
 
4:27 PM
@MikeQ I've had enough pain and MRIs to know better.
 
oh he's dead I d6'd him myself
 
@goodguy5 Those are considered "features"
 
i'm also not programed for combat my augmentations are made for physical labor and self defense.
i take damage very easily my artificail skin can shread just my scrating an itch I end up looking like I was cut with a knife if i'm not careful
no seriously that actually happens
 
@MikeQ More of a jungler myself.
 
what's pain?
I shut it off a long time ago so I forget
 
4:33 PM
@MageintheBarrel It's bread in French
 
@MageintheBarrel Baby, do hurt me?
 
@MikeQ every time I see an Au Bon Pain, I say out loud "The Good Pain", even if I'm by myself
 
@MikeQ <slow clap>
 
i have tendonitus in my right ankle bad enough to make me lose 20% of the mobility and 30% of the dexterity and it doesn't hurt unless I walk about a mile
even then it's perfectly bareable
i was very mobile before hand so I'm about avg human now
back to dnd someone mentioned that tiefling could have a cat like appearance does that extend to cat eared humans
 
Would a cat-eared human be (mechanically speaking) human, in this case?
 
4:43 PM
no just look like a human with cat ears being mechanically something else
like this minus the gun
 
khajit has wares, and you will not take them unless you have coin >:(
 
what mechanically differentiates her from a human?
 
9 lives
 
Conjure Hairball as a cantrip
 
just noticed thats a foxgirl not catgir;
wrong tail
 
4:46 PM
maybe it's a clipon
 
wearing 2 coats and no pants
 
@MikeQ Given all the depictions I've seen, you're mechanically required to have long hair.
Or rather, hair that covers the sides of your face.
 
@Yuuki So... catgirls must have beards?
 
Or to be even more specific, hair that covers either your second pair of human ears or lack thereof.
 
@SirCinnamon 2 Coats, No Pants has got to be the name of some Scottish kilt-wearing band somewhere.
 
4:48 PM
tbh humans are just generic
 
@Rubiksmoose If not, I think you know what we need to do
 
@SirCinnamon Everything I've seen of anime suggests that pants are gendered clothing in Japan.
 
@MageintheBarrel Have you seen Earth?
 
@SirCinnamon Well I've got an accent to start working on and some immigration forms to fill out I guess.
 
no i hail from black lizard planet and am beaming this message across the galaxy
 
4:49 PM
Really any sort of leg-covering garments appear to be male-only.
 
the latency is awful
 
@Yuuki Except thigh high socks
 
@MageintheBarrel Then how do you know Humans are generic?
 
@Rubiksmoose I learned all i can from watching scrooge mcduck
 
it's called a hyperbole
 
4:51 PM
@SirCinnamon I'll take it.
 
@goodguy5 Because name brands are clearly elves.
 
much like what more than half the stuff I say or type
 
@Yuuki That's why they call it "Elf of the Shelf".
 
No. Everything typed into this chat must be 100% serious. No humor, no sarcasm, and no hyperbole allowed. And also 100% related to RPGs.
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I'm just saying that there's a lot of diversity in humans, but there are defined characteristics for Dwarves, Elves, etc.
 
4:54 PM
@goodguy5 I think that's generally because we know what humans look like. THey define the things that visually (generally) makes elves elves and dwarves dwarves.
Even if our dwarf lost his beard due to a wild magic incident (i think)
 
@goodguy5 I always thought that was because other races evolved for a specific geographically distinct environment (resulting in less genetic diversity) while humans are more widespread.
 
Elves are easily identified by their refusal to understand how war spoils work. Cast it into the fire? How dare you, I got this ring fair and square, Elrond.
 
@DavidCoffron More likely because the other races were originally inspired by (or written as) projections of certain types of humans
 
@MikeQ (I meant a more in-universe explanation, but that too)
 
currently working on finding an image of a nekomimi that's not sexualized a child or both damn you gooogle images safe search doesn't work
 
4:56 PM
@MageintheBarrel o7 (good luck, see you in seven years)
 
Or just, you know, don't copypaste catgirl images into chat.
 
you guys asked about what they look like
 
@MageintheBarrel Found one:
 
They're humanish girls with some cat features. We get it. Is there a question involved here?
 
You don't need a one-boxed image.
 
4:57 PM
 
@DavidCoffron Why do they have cat ears when they already have a pair of human ears?
 
@Yuuki ummm....
 
Or vice-versa.
 
that always got on my nerves
 
@Yuuki Redundancy
 
4:58 PM
They're tuned to different frequencies.
Human ears are for understanding speech
 
@MarkWells lol
 
Cat ears are for locating things
 
@MarkWells and for scritches
 
@NautArch Yes please
 
I may opt to ignore the 24 hour re-save on the zuggmtoy madness and just have it continue until they figure out it's a disease.
 
5:01 PM
@NautArch I think that's more fun. She's a demon prince(ss) after all
 
@G.Moylan And we have a paladin. ALl they need to do is lay on hands 5 hp to cure it.
they just have to figure itout first
and i think that'll be more fun
 
@MageintheBarrel You may be confusing the Bard class with the Entertainer Background.
 
AND i'm notmaking the madness affect their combat readiness.
 
@NautArch "they just have to figure it out first" the eternal puzzle
 
Ok, to recap: To play a nekomimi idol bard, if that's what you wanted, you can use builtin 5E stuff, plus reflavoring. Ask the DM for permission, because this doesn't gain any unfair mechanical advantages. End of discussion. Let's not venture into not-friendly tangents.
 
5:02 PM
Bard plays <let it go>
@G.Moylan Well, figure out why the fighter is hallucinating periodically.
Just seems underwhelming to have it just 'end' without explaining what happened.
 
@NautArch Reefer Faerzress madness
 
was trying to prep before presenting
 
@Rubiksmoose Migrating a chunk of this to Not-a-bar may be advisable
 
btw do I need to read all 100+ pages of the basic rules
 
@MageintheBarrel generally? yes.
 
5:05 PM
At least skim it, get familiar with the basics
 
Knowing the rules is good. You can focus on the general stuff and on the specifics of your race/class/background.
 
@MikeQ I will work on excising it. Thanks.
 
would reading the phb be worth it over the basic rules since I have one?
 
@G.Moylan In our other campaign, DM had given a character some unknown potion - which they drank during a long puzzle sequence but left them basically totally out of it. It was awful. Yes, this was thes ame problematic DM.
@MageintheBarrel yes.
 
@MageintheBarrel Wrong edition for that link. 3.x was more persecriptive with alignment than 5e, which is more descriptive.
 
5:07 PM
@MageintheBarrel I dunno if the Basic Rules includes bards, so... yeah, read the PHB section on bards.
 
so 300+ pages over 100
 
@MageintheBarrel Although College of Glamour is in Xanathar's. You'll need to buy that if you don't have it and you want to use that college.
 
@MageintheBarrel you don't have to read everything
 
As a player, you don't need to read the whole PHB. Just the sections relevant to your character.
 
can someone just delete that message so we can move on
 
5:08 PM
@MageintheBarrel Read the general rules and the specific sections on your race/class/background.
 
@G.Moylan read the section on combat, and your class section. That's really about all you need for day-to-day
 
Interesting conversation :D
 
@BalarkaSen Looks like Rubiksmoose is on it, moving some things and maybe deleting others. I don't want to step on their... hooves?
 
yup noticed
 
5:10 PM
@BalarkaSen thanks =)
 
As with most character concepts, it's important to identify how important mechanical features are to you. For example, you could easily be a pop singer with any class. Now if you want your singing to have magical effects, then you start to narrow your options down.
 
@Suvitruf It's a little RPG-heavy today, actually. (The conversation, that is.)
 
@nitsua60 But moose + sheep = 2x hoof power
 
@G.Moylan @MageintheBarrel Chapters 5, 7, 8 and 9 are must-reads after the specifics of your character. Chapter 10 if you're playing a caster.
 
@Rubiksmoose raises hands up, together, and says "Cuff me, Officer Rubik. It's a fair cop, but society's to blame"
 
5:11 PM
@NautArch that's a good list
@KorvinStarmast Why's there another dead bishop on the landing?
 
@Yuuki To listen in Quadrophonic to the Who's album Quadrophenia.
 
@nitsua60 if the sheep was polymorphed, could it understand moose?
@KorvinStarmast ugh
 
@G.Moylan I'm getting sloppy? And I didn't read the tatoo on the back of the neck
 
why is that comment starred
 
5:15 PM
@G.Moylan Refresh the page, it'll go away.
 
@Xirema ah ty
 
@KorvinStarmast Well if I'm going to also arrest society I'm going to need a bigger set of cuffs!
 
@Rubiksmoose Hmm, just move society and all of its nobles to "Not a Bar" and see if they increase the business base. Someone has to generate revenue or BESW has to close it up.
 
@Rubiksmoose Just surround yourself with a fence and declare your side the "outside" - you have now sucessfully imprisoned the rest of humanity.
 
6
Q: Could I use a Greatsword and a Longsword in one turn with Two-weapon fighting and dual wielding feat?

CreatonsOfMyOwnI am a 5th level fighter with an extra attack and I have TWF and dual wielding. In theory, could I use my first two attacks with a greatsword and then make a bonus action attack with a longsword without being required to use my bonus action to unsheath my longsword and waiting to attack new tur...

 
5:19 PM
I thin "exclude" and "imprison" are a little different, but that was a neat jest.
 
@ACuriousMind Genius!
 
@ACuriousMind Okay, Jevil.
 
@G.Moylan FWIW, it was a little dark, but IMO was an improvement on what they tried in Tommy. Plus, it had some great songs like "Love, Rein O'er Me" that took advantage of Daltry's unique vocal style.
 
@KorvinStarmast At first I thought you meant the movie (based on the album). That was a very strange movie.
 
And for driving music, Dr Jimmy and Mr Jim was good road music. Entwhistle's bass line opening in Can you see the real me was one of those things that really kicked.
@Rubiksmoose For those of us weaned on the album, the movie was a nice try at capturing the album. I think it worked better as a story told orally/in song.
If the film was all you got to experience, I can see a lot of head scratching. (Plus the whole story is a social commentary on 60's England teenagers / young adults / mods/ rockers bound together with various themes of alienation.
I suspect that the brains behind it was Townshend.
 
5:25 PM
For sure. And I definitely missed a lot of the context (despite being very familiar with the album - though way too late to be raised on it by any stretch of the imagination)
Gotta love Elton in it though.
Pinball Wizard is one of my faves.
 
Elton was in Pinball Wizard/ Tommy, not quadrophenia.
 
@KorvinStarmast Sorry yeah I was talking about Tommy (both movie and album)
Which I just now realised I never actually said! Good job me.
 
@Xirema Jawful evil?
 
@Rubiksmoose I remember as a kid what a big deal it was that a rock band were trying this rock opera thing. My father sniffed at it (he's a classical music buff). I think TOmmy, while somewhat strange, has stood the test of time.
 
@ACuriousMind DELTARUNE reference. Court Jester who went a little nuts and got locked away, and while imprisoned, decided that actually, he was the only one who was free, and the entire rest of the world was imprisoned.
 
5:40 PM
@Rubiksmoose Yeah, Elton's cover of pinball wizard was pretty good.
 
@KorvinStarmast I definitely enjoyed it when I watched it like 10 years ago for the first time.
@KorvinStarmast I've gotten to see him do it live and it was incredible.
 
@Rubiksmoose hey, why did I just turn green? Am I now Kermit the Frog? No, it's raw Envy.
 
@KorvinStarmast My dad was kind enough to give me his ticket so my brother and I could go.
Though he didn't realise that they had doublesold the one of the seats (balcony) somehow and so I ended up 3rd row from the front on the floor. He's never forgiven me.
 
6:12 PM
@Rubiksmoose So you got the full envergy overload of the Elton concert up close? Cool! huh, why is my skin still green? Am I now a goblin?
 
DON'T SEND ME A MESSAGE ASKING THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION YOU PUT IN THE TICKET
JUST READ THE TICKET
 
@goodguy5 You okay over there?
 
for most definitions of "okay", yes
workplace woes
 
@KorvinStarmast yeah plus they'd grown a bit musically. Quadrophenia is the only vinyl record I own for The Who. I like their other stuff but Quad is a great listen start to finish
Tommy is great but I just couldn't get into the theme, really. Didn't grab me
 
6:42 PM
@G.Moylan Yeah, the story is a little sick. But if you look at the social context of the 1960's, there was a lot of reacting to the strangeness of the world being expressed musically.
I just went through some of my old Humble Pie records, and I am struck with how raw, but also how clean, their music is. Uncluttered.
 
7:08 PM
I actually like that stirge question....
I mean, it's written horrendously, but other than that
If Elvenis doesn't come back, what's the etiquette. Can I edit the question after X time, or do I have to re-write it?
 
you can always edit a question for clarity, provided you're actually just improving the clarity and not changing the question.
 
In this case if Elvenis doesn't come back asking a new question seems to be the way to go, you can't add a system to the question otherwise
 
@goodguy5 If you're editing for grammar, I think that's fine. BUt otherwise, we need to wait to figure out what's being asked and for what game.
If it is 5e, I don't think they can blood drain and dragon's breath.
and what type of odd duck ranger has a stirge as a companion?
 
I wasn't sure if there was some kind of statute of limitations before I could change a question. no problem
 
Hi, I'm Bob. I'm a ranger! This is my companion, needlenose. Don't worry if you wake up and he's attached to you.
 
7:19 PM
*shudder*
But can a stirge use actions while it's attached?
seems like the base question
 
It's action is blood drain. But I guess the question can they forego that to use dragon's breath?
I don't understand the rpg-theory tag, either.
 
Is that an action? because it just sais that it occurs at the start of turn
 
@goodguy5 I'd think it is. It's part of the action blood drain. That action is an attack if it's not attached an action to drain when attached (or at least that's how i'd answer.)
Instead of attacking it drains blood.
 
I disagree.
I mean. your last statement is just true
 
" While attached, the stirge doesn't attack. Instead,..."
 
7:22 PM
but that doesn't mean it doesn't get an action, just that it doesn't attack
 
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Q: Can a Beast Master command their stirge companion to use Blood Drain and then Dodge on subsequent turns, dealing damage due to blood loss?

BlueMoon93I'm trying to optimize the damage done by a ranged Beast Master ranger, and was thinking of choosing the Stirge as a companion. Blood Drain. Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, 5 (1d4 + 3) piercing damage, and the stirge attaches to the target. The Stirge will have 12HP (4x my level), 16 AC, +7...

so the implication seems to be that yes
 
yiss
 
Hmm, i upvoted that answer.
 
there ya go
 
I'm still not convinced because of the use of "instead" within the drain blood action. THe action isn't an attack.
 
7:25 PM
so, now. the next question is what constitutes an "attack".... which I think is also around here somewhere...
 
I think the action is drain blood. It's either an attack to get ready to do it (attach), or to do it.
 
because is using the effect granted by Dragon's Breath an attack?
 
@goodguy5 Now, it's just an action, not an attack.
It forces a saving throw.
not a d20 against AC.
 
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Q: Can a familiar from the Find Familiar spell use Dragon's Breath?

Jay KayOne of the new spells from Xanathar's Guide to Everything is Dragon's Breath. Even though the spell is attacking, nowhere in the spell description does it specifically say that you are attacking with it, only that you use an action. My question is can a familiar that has this spell cast on it use...

 
@goodguy5 Argh was just about to link that :)
 
7:27 PM
I definitely think it can do it. But it's at the expense of draining blood.
It's either/or, not and.
 
But it's not a "may", it's a "does"
while attached, the stirge drains blood
and then, it can detach.
 
No, It's with blood drain, instead of attacking it can drain.
 
Are you suggesting that after the detach, it has no action to use?
 
i'm trying to figure out if it can drain more than 10HP, if it needs to drain 10hp before detaching, and if it can attach to the same creature more than once.
 
> Blood Drain. Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one creature. Hit: 5 (1d4 + 3) piercing damage, and the stirge attaches to the target. While attached, the stirge doesn't attack. Instead, at the start of each of the stirge's turns, the target loses 5 (1d4 + 3) hit points due to blood loss. — Stirge, Monster Manual, pg. 284
> The stirge can detach itself by spending 5 feet of its movement. It does so after it drains 10 hit points of blood from the target or the target dies. A creature, including the target, can use its action to detach the stirge.
Attaching itself is an Action, but draining occurs automatically while latched.
 
7:32 PM
@NautArch do you mean, willingly, or via overflow?
like, if the stirge does 9 damage, does it detach after 10 or 18?
 
So a Stirge should be able to use the Action provided by Dragon's Breath while still latched.
 
@Xirema i'm still currently disagreeing :)
@goodguy5 all of the above.
 
@NautArch With what, precisely?
 
@Xirema My reading is that both the attack and the draining are the action Blood Drain
It's just that you use the action to attach via an attack, then you use the action to drain.
Because it's instead of the attack. But still part of blood drain
 
I mean, I don't know how you can read it that way. The way it's written, it seems to forgo spending any Action at all after it's been latched, unless on some other Action.
 
7:37 PM
@NautArch I've always the part about detaching as behavior guidance. Following the flavor description from the monster manual:
> Blood Drain. A stirge attacks by landing on a victim, finding a vulnerable spot, and plunging its proboscis into the flesh while using its pincer legs to latch on to the victim. Once the stirge has sated itself, it detaches and flies off to digest its meal.
 
@Sdjz So the play is once they 'fill up' with 10 HP (okay if they go over), they detach after the drain that gets them that much?
 
part of the issue is giving it extra "intelligence" via the ranger....
 
So it's sated after dealing 10 hp and just leaves
 
IMO Naut is right RAI I think. RAW is a little weird...
 
The thing is, it doesn't say "the stirge cannot attack", it says "the stirge doesn't attack".
 
7:39 PM
@Xirema My logic is: Stirge has action of blood drain. It begins with an attack. Then once attached, instead of the attack, it drains. BUt it's all part of their blood drain action.
 
you're suggesting it's clausal
 
@NautArch So it's one action that is consumed on multiple turns?
 
interesting
like uh.... witchbolt
 
@Xirema Unless they want to do a different action. Like Dodge.
Or Dragon's Breath.
 
No, Witch Bolt uses multiple Actions: one on the turn you cast it, one more each time you proc it.
 
7:40 PM
but i do think this is a duplicate of that question.
 
@NautArch not until it gets a system, it's not
 
@goodguy5 but once it does, and it's 5e, it is.
 
I suppose I agree
Though, we're still contentious about whether the start-of-turn-drain is an action or not
 
@NautArch you think the current undefined question is a dupe of the more general one about using DB for a familiar?
 
@Rubiksmoose No, of this one. BUt maybe it's just related.
 
7:42 PM
I mean, at start-of-turn the drain happens, and then the Stirge could decide to take a different action, like Dodge. I don't think you can interpret the drain itself as an Action if that scenario is possible.
 
same answer, different question.
 
@Xirema that's my interpretation
 
@Xirema Why have the "instead of attack" language, then? It should just be "at the start of the turn..."
The instead is what's pushing me towards this interpretation.
 
@NautArch It sort of does. "While attached, the stirge doesn't attack. Instead, at the start of each of the stirge's turns"
 
and besides of that, if a ranger beast master plays this, I'm definitely throwing them a bone and allowing it regardless
 
7:43 PM
@Xirema BUt it's all under the action blood drain. It's not that blood drain is necessarily an attack.
 
@Xirema I think it is just clarifying that this action does a thing. While attached, it no longer does the attack part insead doing this other thing
 
@NautArch Is it the same answer? Ah I see what you are seeing I think. I would tend towards saying that it is related though.
I don't think the answers obviously apply to the new question.
 
Yeah, but you'd still expect language clarifying that it has to keep spending its Action. Like what Slow does.
 
@Rubiksmoose yeah, i think it's related. A general umbrella would be can a Stirge perform another action along side it's drain while attached?
We could go through any number of action option iterations that would all be separate.
@Xirema Again, it's the "instead" that's saying that (for me.)
 
> If the creature attempts to cast a spell with a casting time of 1 action, roll a d20. On an 11 or higher, the spell doesn't take effect until the creature's next turn, and the creature must use its action on that turn to complete the spell. If it can't, the spell is wasted.Slow, Player's Handbook, pg. 277
 
7:46 PM
@NautArch We now see the design problem involved in choosing to make the stirge a beast rather than a monstrosity. On the bright side, a druid can still summon a few of those to vex their opponents ...
 
@NautArch Oh yeah, definitely.
 
WHat's the purpose of "instead" as part of the action description? Why not just say once attached, the stirge does X.
 
@NautArch What actions would even be available? It can't attack or move because its face is stuck in something. What's it going to do, cast a spell? :/
 
@MarkWells dodge?
 
@MarkWells Dodge?
jinx!
 
7:46 PM
actually.... can you dodge with 0 speed?
 
@goodguy5 see above, "face is stuck in something"
 
@goodguy5 no
 
I don't think you can dodge if movement is zero?
 
oh, then it can't dodge
 
> You lose this benefit if you are incapacitated or if your speed drops to 0
 
7:47 PM
@DavidCoffron really?
oh man, i did not know that!
 
well then....
 
Although.... i mean maybe techinically
 
that question needs some editing....
 
need a new answer to that question :)
 
You can dodge and if your speed never drops to 0, you can dodge no problem, only if your speed drops to 0 after you dodge do you lose the benefit
But that is a very strict RAW reading
 
7:47 PM
although it's speed isn't zero
It can spend movement (to detach).
 
link assassin mentions it, nevermind
 
@NautArch and draw an opportunity attack
 
withdraw?
 
@DavidCoffron hahaha that is a very shrewd reading of that.
 
@KorvinStarmast Yeah. It seems like a poor use of an animal companion. That thing gonna die fast.
 
7:50 PM
And gross too. What gets me is 'how is stirge not a monstrosity" rather than a beast? Design team, hello?
 
I keep getting pro trump mail and I don't know why....
 
@KorvinStarmast Isn't it just a big mosquito?
 
You play too much bridge, I guess.
@MarkWells Isn't an owl bear just a fuzzy wuzzy?
 
fair enough
 
Im' so confused about this question.
 
7:55 PM
@NautArch I'm assuming the asker simply thought they had already discovered all the multiclass options, and did not want to do fighter or barbarian, when they asked for non-multiclass options.
 
@ACuriousMind I'd agree, but they added that line in after the answer in clarifying question comments were in.
 
@NautArch Maybe they interpreted the answer to be say by implication "no, other than this MC option you have no other way to get armor"
 
@Rubiksmoose Maybe. But there is a way (investing quite a bit of time in feats). I just now wish I hadn't pulled my unclear VTC.
 
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@NautArch Maybe they accepted that answer because "ok cool this works" and then edited in the question as a follow up asking for more after
 
7:59 PM
@Sdjz I dunno. They also didn't answer all of my comment requests for info. I have a feeling they jsut want to know "how can a wizard wear [heavy?] armor?"
 

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