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8:02 PM

@DanielZastoupil Or if you're fighting Magic Goliath.

@Yuuki, Darn, I should really have gone with David as my name. Decided to go german with Wolfgang.

I accidentally found out about the whole sling thing, but it's actually incredibly relevant, since I'm playing as a level 2 rogue, with Int as my max stat, going into Arcane Trickster. Found that info browsing a thread about dumb sling builds because I was bored. Didn't think it'd be relevant.

But I guess now I'm going to be the group quartermaster?

Just handing out +4 stones that deal 1d6 damage.

Yuuki

@DanielZastoupil Nah, that wouldn't work.

You have to be Magic David.

Daniel Zastoupil

Kinda like Magic Johnson, but with a few Cleric levels.

Hmm..I can totally see it. A gnome, named David, who throws magic stones at everything he thinks is a Goliath (namely everything).

The main issue I have with it, though, is the fact that its range will be limited. Firebolt has a 120 range and deals 1d12 damage (about 3 more damage). Even with sneak attack, assuming I wanted to get within 30 feet, that's worse than a hand crossbow.

Maybe Magic Stone was designed around the multiattack feature of Eldritch Knights?

Hmm...Slings are simple weapons, compatible as a Monk weapon, and we have a monk. I guess if he's going Kensei, or if he wants to sling one of my stones and punch somebody after?

Yuuki

8:21 PM

If you give a monk a magic stone, he'll just keep asking you to take it from his hand.

GreySage

If you give a monk a magic stone, he'll ask for a sling.
If you give a monk a sling...

David Coffron

Best use I found for magic stone is arming nonadventurers like the merchant youre guarding or the noble you're rescuing. Since it using your ability scores, it is much better than the club or dagger they can wield.

Daniel Zastoupil

Hmm...technically, stones are probably light weapons. There's not much saying you couldn't dual wield them like some psychopathic old man throwing rocks at lollygagging kids.

David Coffron

@DanielZastoupil they're improvised weapons. Not light

Daniel Zastoupil

Oh...darn. Magic stone isn't a wizard spell. Guess I'll just have to go back to being optimized again..

I am genuinely upset by this.

Int is 18. Dex is 16. Excluding me, we have two ranged and two melee characters. I'm forced into getting Mage Hand, will likely get Booming Blade/Green Flame Blade. What's my third pick?

Mike Q

8:37 PM

Wish

Yuuki

@DanielZastoupil Why do you need a third pick if you already have two?

Daniel Zastoupil

Arcane Tricksters get 3 cantrips to start. One is forced to be mage hand.

Xirema

@Yuuki I'm assuming plotting character advancement for higher levels?

Yuuki

Are you going to be spending a lot of time mining?

Daniel Zastoupil

@Yuuki Not planning to, but I haven't been making a lot of money so far, so we'll see.

Xirema

8:40 PM

@DanielZastoupil I almost always use up a Cantrip slot for Prestidigitation/Druidcraft/Thaumaturgy. Something that never really has Combat use, but can be applied to a wide variety of non-combat situations.

Daniel Zastoupil

@MikeQ There was a reddit thread where people came up with names of cantrips, and then people later filled in what the spell would end up being. One of them was Minor Wish, which I defined as "Cast any cantrip that is on your spell list. You cannot cast this spell again until you take a long rest"

@Xirema I thought about that. Maybe Minor Illusion. I don't have darkvision, though.

David Coffron

@DanielZastoupil you may wanna grab a spell with a save (I like toll the dead), an extra option for high AC targets

Mike Q

@DanielZastoupil Reminds me of a thread where they used real spell names, but came up with silly effects

Turn Undead: You become undead

David Coffron

@DanielZastoupil dancing lights is pretty good if you don't use concentration on something else

Daniel Zastoupil

@DavidCoffron I will once I get Fog Cloud.

David Coffron

8:43 PM

Minor Wish: You look at a star and make a wish. Roll 10 d100. If all result in 0 then your wish comes true in a way that impacts the course of reality the least. If you use this more than once in a day, the result of the dice has no effect on reality

Daniel Zastoupil

@MikeQ One I particularly liked was one where a literary wizard swapped the letters in spells, and the magic of the spells followed suit. For example: Commend Undead. Give an undead temporary hitpoints and charm it.

Mike Q

I think Cure Light Wounds had something to do with fixing a lightbulb

Daniel Zastoupil

Ray of Froth

lol

I was hoping Produce Flame would be a wizard spell, but alas, it's not.

Would have been perfect for a 50/50 RP/Combat spell

David Coffron

You can get create bonfire

Similar role

Daniel Zastoupil

True. But we already have a pyromancer that REALLY likes fire, so it might be redundant.

David Coffron

8:47 PM

But you get this question from that spell:

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Q: How much illumination does Create Bonfire provide?

Create Bonfire (XGtE p152): You create a bonfire on ground that you can see within range. Until the spell ends, the bonfire fills a 5-foot cube. Any creature in the bonfire’s space when you cast the spell must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw or take 1d8 fire damage. A creature must also m...

Daniel Zastoupil

Reminds me of my Alchemist's Fire duration/light question.

NautArch

@Carcer i think that assumption makes this tool less useful. I"ve traded down multiple times with my bard.

Daniel Zastoupil

After taking a look at the spells, Chill Touch is actually quite good.

It's a little bit weaker (4.5) than Fire Bolt (6.5), but the utility on it is pretty solid, and I can see it being more relevant at higher levels.

When health regen/undead become more common.

Otherwise, the awesome range stays the same.

Are undead resistant to necrotic damage?

Yuuki

Some undead are resistant or immune to necrotic damage. But it's not a general rule with undead.

David Coffron

@DanielZastoupil besides. The effect still works even if they are immune to the damage

So it's effective damage by cancelling regene

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Q: Is a creature immune to a spell's damage type immune to the spell's other effects?

I'm thinking about creatures immune to necrotic damage, for example, and Chill Touch's effect (on a hit, prevents gaining hit points). RAW, I'm leaning towards no, but wanted to confirm.

dnd-5e spells immunities

I can't believe i got so many updoots on this question:

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A: Are there mechanical consequences for nakedness?

There is no rule but there is some guidance you can find As of yet, there are no rules for nakedness. The section on advantage and disadvantage in the Basic Rules, though, says: The GM can also decide that circumstances influence a roll in one direction or the other and grant advantage or im...

BESW

9:06 PM

@DavidCoffron I guess nudity is popular. (Today in Things I Never Thought I'd Say.)

Daniel Zastoupil

I just want to express how funny it is that we can upvote comments when we have a Karma system.

One is an internet point system. But the other is an imaginary internet point system.

BESW

Comments are imaginary!

They're like psychic wire.

user15026

I tend to think of them as like...a silent sort of nod of agreement. Like "you have said many the good words here, friend"

trogdor

lol

that's a great way to describe it

Daniel Zastoupil

I also want to express that Minor Illusion + several wizards can make dubstep.

David Coffron

9:10 PM

@DanielZastoupil ... I never thought of that

Daniel Zastoupil

Can create sound. Sound can repeat perfectly for the 1 minute duration.

Although, awkwardly enough, you can stop hearing it with a successful investigation check?

If only that worked in real life.

I think that's going to be my main selling point for it being my third Arcane Trickster cantrip.

And annoy the crap out of my team when I bring a stereo LOADED WITH DUBSTEP.

Carcer

@NautArch but it works in terms of determining if your spells known is legal - "2 5th level spells" meaning "2 spells of fifth level or less"

Mike Q

@NautArch It checks legality by comparing against some upper bound configuration, even if the upper bound itself is impractical

Xirema

9:29 PM

@NautArch Like I said, the value is for characters who start at X level, not for characters who were at level 1 and progressed normally through a campaign up to level X. In your scenario, then yes, the tool isn't very useful. But it has use in scenarios where the character needs to start at X level, either because the campaign started there, or because the Player is rerolling a new character at-level.

Daniel Zastoupil

What kind of difficulty would you guys implement for a character who wanted to use Tinker's Tools (with the Gnomish Racial trait Tinker) to attach a dagger to a hand crossbow (probably as the underside of the grip)?

GreySage

@DanielZastoupil none, auto-success unless in combat

Daniel Zastoupil

"And BAM, you now can stab people with your crossbow?" Just like that?

GreySage

@DanielZastoupil Plus 10mins, but sure

The Oracle

10:14 PM

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Yuuki

Daniel Zastoupil

The new theme is pretty cool. They should put the Role Playing Games logo/link directly above the menu items, but away from the center content. That way, when you scroll, the RPG logo stays on the screen and keeps the left-hand tab menu in place. They could also do with expanding the dragon and the skullboys(?) so that it fits the horizontal width of the main center content, rather than being a small picture stuck on the right hand side.

Or slide the RPG logo to the right (right next to the dragon pic) and slide the left hand tab menu up where the logo was, so that the logo fills in the empty space (kinda like how it is now) and the tab menu doesn't move when you scroll.

It really bugs me that the tab menu moves when you scroll. It doesn't move much, but it does, and it's bugging.

On a side note, what are the red spacedoods shooting the dragon in the logo? Their helmets look like skulls (which is why I thought they were Palladium Books: Rifts' Skullboys), but they could definitely be something else.

Shalvenay

10:32 PM

hey there @KorvinStarmast

Carcer

hm, this seems worse

BESW

@DanielZastoupil Deliberately generic cyberspacemutantwhatevers.

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If there's a direct inspiration, it's probably:

Daniel Zastoupil

Sorry, not SKULLboys, DEADboys

trogdor

Lol

Daniel Zastoupil

Also known as the terrifyingly tyrannical army of what's left of the United States

trogdor

10:48 PM

I don't feel like a dead skeleton cyber,.... Thingy

Daniel Zastoupil

I really like the Rifts universe, even adapted a lot of the world/lore to a 5E campaign I ran. I just wish Palladium wasn't convoluted with their rules and their terrible balance.

Anaphory

@DanielZastoupil I was fearing much worse. The flair on the top-right does look a bit cramped and the leftmost deathboy looks out of place in the middle of the top. Whether and how they might fix that, hm.

Also, now that I have accepted beta-testing, I can't seem to go back, even when I untick that tick mark.

Oh, that was wrong, it just wasn't immediate.

Daniel Zastoupil

Deadboys aren't cyber dudes. They just look scary. The uniforms intentionally implement skulls into the uniform for fear, so that small outposts don't resist. If you had an army of undead robots offering you food, water, and NOT DYING to relinquish a drifter who walked into your town one day, you'd be inclined to give the murderbots whatever the hell they wanted.

But really, each Deadboy is just some poor villager who joined the local Coalition because they were poor and the Coalition has money, guns and people supposedly not dying.

A lot of them are brainwashed to believe that magic and monsters are all evil.

BESW

Did someone say Murderbot?

user15026

Murderbot is good stuff. nods

trogdor

10:55 PM

I still need to read that

GreySage

@BESW I prefer the term 'Killbot'

user15026

@trogdor It's quite good!

BESW

@GreySage Muderbot is its chosen name for itself, so I figure I should probably respect its decision.

trogdor

11:25 PM

@Ash apparently so

I've been told that many times

user15026

And they're not long works, which I appreciate sometimes.

trogdor

Oh it's short?

I didn't even realize that

BESW

Yeah, they're novellas.

The fifth book is planned to be a full novel, but only the first three have been published so far.

trogdor

Ah ok

I think I have some of it that you gave me at some point?

BESW

11:40 PM

Yeah, there was a free give-away of the first one.

trogdor

Mk

Maybe I'll dig that out today and actually read it

I've just been reading so slowly lately

I'm still on the book I started six months ago

user15026

I'm your opposite, I think

trogdor

It's just

I used to read really fast

BESW

I'm all over the place. I've got books I've been chewing through for years, and books that I'll read in a night.

trogdor

And maybe it isn't so much the speed as the time spent on it

user15026

11:54 PM

I tend to be a one book at a time person

trogdor

I'm not reading as much as I used to

@Ash I used to be that too but at some point I started reading multiple books sometimes

user15026

(there are some exceptions to this rule. Like Chernow's Hamilton, that book was SO DENSE. I kept having to take romance novel breaks.)

user15026

@trogdor Part of it for me is that my memory is kinda wonky for reasons, so I find if I have more than one on the go, I tend to forget the plot threads

trogdor

Maybe you are my opposite on this then

I remember, not necessarily intricate details but the plot threads of books for a long time

Even after reading something else

user15026

I can remember broad details for a long time after I've read it, but the during, thats when I risk losing the plot (aka my short term memory is absolutely garbage, my long term memory fares better, especially if it is emotionally based content)

user15026

11:59 PM

I read stupid fast, which helps

trogdor

My memory of stuff I have read is very very good

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