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BESW

00:00

Yeah. Grafts replace, they aren't free bonus limbs.

SevenSidedDie

@Shalvenay I don't actually know. RPGs provide enough ways to place immovable rocks before irresistible forces that some kind of "reality excursion event" struck me as an amusing consequence of some of these "but how does RAW?" issues.

Shalvenay

strange campaign scenes: my CG cleric (of Corellon Larethian) is about to go park her rump next to a mostly-CN demon (Sanguinus or h/e it's spelled) for a friendly chat, I feel...

@SevenSidedDie xDDD -- yeah, "reality excursion event" is a good way to describe it, although you don't need magic to cause that: 1.2GT of TNT is quite the reality excursion for most folks.

SevenSidedDie

@Shalvenay Is this 5e or some other Xe?

The lesser geas, that is. I think that's 3.5e, right?

Shalvenay

@SevenSidedDie -- the cleric scene? 3.5e

I was also using 3.5e as a reference for (Lesser) Geas

(let me check my 2e PHB tho -- I think the spell is fairly well-conserved between editions)

SevenSidedDie

@Shalvenay Actually, I think it does what it says on the tin: cumulative -2 per day of being unable to act on conflicting geases, and the spell will expire due to being unable to pursue via their own actions.

Shalvenay

00:08

@SevenSidedDie -- interesting

the 2e Geas doesn't have that rule, though -- instead, it punts to rule 0

SevenSidedDie

What I'm not sure is whether it's -2 per geas. It might not be, as stacking from the same source doesn't happen.

@Shalvenay Yeah. Geas is more of a plot device, at least in historical "why is it in D&D" terms.

Shalvenay

aaaaah. I suspect the 2e Geas actually cannot be stacked at all by RAW

"The creature must be intelligent, conscious, under its own volition, and able to understand the caster"

(emphasis mine)

SevenSidedDie

@Shalvenay Yeah, that might be. Since that's just English words though, in practice it will be context-sensitive and therefore DM judgment.

After all geas doesn't remove all volition.

Shalvenay

true

I'd interpret it to lock out the spell against being stacked though

otherwise, you get into extremely confusing territory, both OOC and IC

SevenSidedDie

@Shalvenay I suspect it's more about avoiding placing geas on targets that simply cannot act on the geas.

Shalvenay

00:14

I suspect so as well

SevenSidedDie

Two conflicting geases may be out of the question, but two non-interacting ones may be fine.

Shalvenay

come to think of it, that'd make sense as well

Miniman

@Pureferret Well, it's Paladin only, so you either need enough Paladin levels to get 2nd level spells (can't remember how many that is), or 6 levels of Bard.

@Pureferret You should be able to wish for find steed, yeah

SevenSidedDie

00:39

@Shalvenay I was thinking more that reality itself is experiencing the excursion, in analogy to a criticality excursion event. Still traumatic for any squishy lifeforms nearby I bet, though.

Maybe that's how a sphere of annihilation is created.

Tritium21

01:08

So the GM baton has been passed in my group, and we are playing a superhero game in which there are occasional dc-esq retcons

BESW

Setting pressure: Superboy is throwing a tantrum.

Tritium21

its...interesting

the neat thing about it is, reality changes, but everyone is aware that it has changed

no apparent cause, but its many many sessions between an event

and they are well thought out changes

BESW

Cool.

My campaign is edging up to a magic-saturation event.

Pixie

We're doing a superhero game now too, at least as a oneshot. I'm trying to figure out what I want to play since everything is on the table. Heroes being pulled from other dimensions.

David Wilkins

01:49

Good evening!

Shalvenay

02:26

o/ @Pixie

Pixie

Hello.

Shalvenay

02:37

@Pixie how're things going?

Pixie

@Shalvenay Alright. Just relaxing. How are you?

Shalvenay

playing 3.5e -- with a Truenamer in our party :p

also, dealing with some IC drama llamas

Pixie

@Shalvenay I hadn't known what that was as I never encountered it in my 3.5 days. Looked it up. Oh dear.

Shalvenay

it is the one 3.5e class that is quite literally broken

(as in: the RAW does not function anywhere near how it was intended)

Pixie

Yeah, I gathered that from what I found.

Shalvenay

02:44

(parts of the RAW for Truenamers simply don't work at all)

also, basking in the glow of a 59 and 0 answer on a V: tR question -- when I don't know one whit about the system or its setting

Shalvenay

03:44

so our DM has started failing search checks for creatures now...

HELP -- which book is the Bloodveld found in?!

(D&D 3.5 or Pathfinder)

doppelgreener

04:13

Is it just me or are we getting an awful lot of idea requests just in the past couple of months?

Also, we have a question and answer all about that Truenamer and its problems!

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Q: What is wrong with the Truenamer?

I have seen a lot of people say that the Truenamer does not work (such as this answer placing Truenamer at the bottom tier) or that it's terrible. As far as I can read and see, though, it seems to be very strong as a caster type. At low levels it doesn't much more or less then a low level wizard...

Shalvenay

aye -- I've read the Truenamer optimization guides

Miniman

@doppelgreener The site seems to go through phases - right now it's a bit of a crappy open-ended question phase.

My favourite is the "trivial rules question" phase, it's where I got most of my rep.

Shalvenay

@doppelgreener: me: "They need to rewrite the Truenamer handbook" DM: "This is the rewrite to the Truenamer handbook"

doppelgreener

@Miniman I'm interested in what we'll see when we move past all the "wait a minute, what's the RAW for this thing in D&D 5e?" "there isn't any, work it out yourself" questions.

SevenSidedDie

@Miniman That phase was somewhat maddening, because they're awful questions but not actually off-topic. Lots of discipline required there to just let them be.

At least these "help me think of stuff" questions can be closed promptly.

doppelgreener