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BESW

01:34

Best question ever?

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I have some chickens named with Borg designations. There were originally 4, so each of them was N of 4. Two of them died though, then I got two new ones, so should the new ones get their own group designation ("of 2") or should they become part of the original "of 4"? I would like to be techni...

trogdor

01:45

lol

stupid freaking Borg

they made no sense in any way

Alex P

@trogdor I think they made sense at some point. But then the writers kept changing them.

trogdor

mm

most of what I saw was "ok, so once you use one type of energy on them they are immune, forever, no cost"

that by itself is just ridiculously silly

but i did see some other things that just made no sense

Alex P

I thought you just had to keep shifting frequencies.

trogdor

like Borg babies TM

not from what I saw

that worked for a little while, but then they became immune to all of them

with no explanation as to why a type of pure energy can be completely useless without opening up a weakness for something else

BESW

trogdor

01:59

I saw at least 2 or 3 episodes where away teams were beamed onto a borg ship, and they did the whole frequency shift thing

but every time, it stopped working at the end

@BESW this is as much sense as it made really

and as far as Borg babies go, if you graft cyborg stuff onto a baby to replace flesh, that baby is not gonna grow properly

Alex P

@trogdor You can replace the cyborg crap as they age. Also, I think the whole point is not to grow properly -- the cyber bits get integrated into their bodies and whatnot.

trogdor

except the organic parts that borg have are still in the shape of humans/humanoids

Alex P

I mean, it certainly makes sense that they'd want their brains to become depending on the cyberware, for example.

doppelgreener

02:35

@trogdor do they become immune to being hit very hard with a very dense object?

trogdor

no but

good luck doing that either

they were about as strong as DATA from what I could tell

so one guy could, MAYBE, fight one of them hand to hand

doppelgreener

I am just remembering someone having pointed out

trogdor

they were made of mcguffyn, and explained poorly if at all

doppelgreener

that although science fiction tends to contain all number of energy weapons, photon cannons, heat lasers, and so on,

none of that is even remotely necessary.

because anything, absolutely anything, can be obliterated if you simply hit it hard enough.

trogdor

it should work that way

doppelgreener

02:41

there's apparently a sci-fi war novel wherein people start using wormhole technology to capture asteroids and launch them directly at planets.

trogdor

but Borg Spaceships had all the same immunities

doppelgreener

... and that's the starting point

trogdor

the only thing you could ram them with is your own ship

cause no one in Star Trek (as far as I know) had powerful enough tractor beams to ram enemy ships with asteroids

doppelgreener

@trogdor probably for the best

trogdor

if they did, it would be even more silly than it already was/is

the Borg is/are one of my personal hated things

it seemed to me that the show let the main cast get too strong, so they basically made the Borg to stop that

pretty much like what happened in the last couple seasons of Stargate SG 1

doppelgreener

02:48

@trogdor with... the replicators?

trogdor

Aurai

or however you spell it

but the Replicators too really

I might even say the Replicators were a worse offense than the Borg

cause they had all the same superpowers and more

doppelgreener

being invincible and also shapeshifters?

trogdor

well,

they could eat/absorb/not-care-about energy weapons just like the borg

they literally ate tech of any kind and incorporated it

doppelgreener

@trogdor do deadly biological viruses count as a technology

would they acquire said viruses

and die

trogdor

using brute force like a sledgehammer against them was silly because they collaped like legos and reformed

no

doppelgreener

03:00

dang

trogdor

they were full machine sooo

computer viruses were sorta kinda effective

but they basically shook those off eventually

doppelgreener

how

i hope this is not like independence day where someone flies up to a completely alien mothership and plugs in their windows laptop or w/e

trogdor

they were all machines, their brains were software

doppelgreener

but you'd have to write software for those machines

trogdor

not exactly

a little better than that, but not entirely

yeah

you had to write it specifically against replicators

and even that didn't seem to be a complete fix

people would come up with brilliant ways to upload a replicator virus into a group of replicators and kill them all, but as it turns out they were everywhere

BESW

03:04

Replicators... yeah, the viruses that targeted them were either written for the Replicators specifically or had some hand-waving justification of their own which let the viruses attack whatever they pleased.

trogdor

and the same thing wouldn't work twice

generally at least

BESW

My Digger Omnibus is finally at the Post Office, but it's taking more than 12 hours to get sorted and put in my box...

doppelgreener

@BESW \o/

trogdor

lol

BESW

03:38

...and suddenly USPS tracking claims it's been in my box since 6:45 this morning.

doppelgreener

Does that mean it is now in your box?

Or that it has.... Not been delivered properly :(

BESW

Says it's in my box.

I'll drive over and check later this afternoon.

doppelgreener

Ok :D

trogdor

lol

BESW