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Inbar Rose

15:00

Less than medium. And much less than large.

Slightly larger than tiny.

DampeS8N

What is tiny?

Inbar Rose

small
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adjective
1.
of a size that is less than normal or usual.
"the room was small and quiet"
synonyms:	little, compact, bijou, tiny, miniature, mini; More
short, little, petite, diminutive, elfin, tiny;
puny, undersized, stunted, dwarfish, midget, pygmy, Lilliputian;
wee;
informalteeny, pint-sized
inadequate, meager, insufficient, ungenerous;
informalmeasly, stingy, mingy, pathetic
antonyms:	big, large, tall, heavily built, ample, generous
not great in amount, number, strength, or power.

Sven B.

Relatively speaking. May or may not be big enough to house a whole country.

DampeS8N

I get Large. I understand Medium because there needs to be something that Large is Larger than.. But Small and Tiny? That's unnecessary.

Inbar Rose

Relatively.

Sven B.

15:01

(Keep in mind Andorra is technically a country.)

Inbar Rose

It's about the size of a very large tiny island.

A few small islands can make a medium island

Joshua Aslan Smith

yo

Sven B.

Yawp!

DampeS8N

Yip-yipyip-yip-yipyipyip

BESW

"Small islands," as currency for Bloodthirsty Nouveau Riche Gangster Donald Trumps, are defined, vetted, and distributed by villainsource.com.

Inbar Rose

15:03

To give you a scale of how better to understand the size of a small island, if you imagine it to be a perfect circle in shape, and then take the radius, it will fit around the circumference about 3.1419 times.

And that is true for any small island. Remarkable really.

Sven B.

> A client requested I design a calendar. She wanted some of her favourite quotes from philosophers on each page.
> She asked me to credit the quotes she couldn’t remember the speaker for.
> Eleven of the months were all philosophy luminaries.
> March was Optimus Prime.

DampeS8N

@InbarRose I'm stuck at "Imagine a perfect circle"

Inbar Rose

@DampeS8N Okay, can you imagine a non-perfect circle?

DampeS8N

@InbarRose certainly.

Inbar Rose

Okay, now smooth it out and make it as round as possible

Got it?

Like the shape of a coin. You know what a coin shape is right?

DampeS8N

15:07

Yes

Inbar Rose

That.

Is good enough.

Remember, we are just pretending here, obviously the island is not really a perfect circle.

DampeS8N

@InbarRose Right, nothing is.

Sven B.

I've always liked the 50p coin.

Inbar Rose

You and your strange currency.

Go back to the pigsty peasant.

Leave the decadence to us.

Sven B.

I'm French, but I like some of the Brits' creative ways.

(Yes, I'm weird.)

Inbar Rose

15:09

That is of no consequence to the pigs.

Sven B.

Also, Welsh Rarebit.

Inbar Rose

If you want I can promote you to chimney sweep.

Sven B.

I'll keep to what I know.

leokhorn

Strange mood in this room tonight :)

Inbar Rose

Are you not in the mood for indulgence?

leokhorn

15:19

I'm in the mood for discovering what I'm in the mood for.

Inbar Rose

A journey of self mood discovery.

Where are you going to start?

leokhorn

At the beginning of course.

Inbar Rose

Excellent.

And how will you progress?

leokhorn

By going forward!... Unless... if I'm on a spherical space body, won't that lead me back to where I started? Mh...

Inbar Rose

If you move forward, you can never be back where you started because the journey will have changed not only you, but the place from which you came.

leokhorn

15:24

Ohhh

Inbar Rose

Also - if you are on a spherical body and you move "forward" you will quite quickly find yourself off that same spherical body, unless by "forward" you mean that you stay immobile and move the sphere beneath you.

leokhorn

Does this mean I do not need to care for where I'm going?

Inbar Rose

That depends if getting there is important.

Or if you just want to journey.

leokhorn

I'm not sure it is. I'm not quite sure what "there" is, nor where it is.

Inbar Rose

It also matters deeply if you intend to stay where you are going, or return from there. There is also the option to continue on to another location, but that means you are still on the Journey. Which means, you are potentially always on a journey.

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So the real question is, do you really believe you are just now starting the journey? or are you just continuing it?

leokhorn

15:28

I believe I'm confused :|

Inbar Rose

Well, back to the original question - what are you in the mood for?

Sven B.

Mithr[a|i]l waffle irons. Bloodthirsty Nouveau Riche Ganster Donald Trumps. Metaphysics.

Inbar Rose

And Philosophy.

Sven B.

Aren't Metaphysics kind of a subset of Philosophy? Or is it the other way around? Or have I been thinking about it wrong all the way since high school?

Inbar Rose

Do you know what the "meta" part even means?

Sven B.

15:31

That means "beyond" or "besides".

Inbar Rose

not exactly

Metaphysics

Metaphysics is a traditional branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world that encompasses it, although the term is not easily defined. Traditionally, metaphysics attempts to answer two basic questions in the broadest possible terms: # What is ultimately there? # What is it like? A person who studies metaphysics is called a metaphysicist or a metaphysician. The metaphysician attempts to clarify the fundamental notions by which people understand the world, e.g., existence, objects and their properties, space and time, cause and effe...

I linked the Etymology.

leokhorn

@InbarRose I think I'm in the mood for some brain rest now ~dizzy~

DampeS8N

It indicates an abstraction. So Metaphysics is about abstract concepts of physics. Like, as above, what constitutes an "object". In other words, it is abstract concepts that describe physics. Stuff about stuff.

Inbar Rose

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Sven B.

... k. So I was either taught wrong or didn't pay attention all that closely.

Occam's razor indicates option #2 as the more probable.

Inbar Rose

15:37

Or just realized that school/education is not infallible and not all encompassing as you originally thought.

leokhorn

@InbarRose Huh... that's new to me.

DampeS8N

@SvenB. I doubt this is correct. Depending on the country you live in.

Inbar Rose

Let me ask a general question, before anyone googles or wiki's it, this is to see what kind of stuff you actually learn about... Who knows when the Wheel was invented?

I don't need an exact date

Sven B.

@DampeS8N France, born and raised.

Inbar Rose

A time period, a place in history, a civilization.... something

John Craven

15:39

I think it's credited to the Babylonians

DampeS8N

@InbarRose IIRC around 2000 BCE

Inbar Rose

Anyone else have an idea/

DampeS8N

I did not recall correctly.

Inbar Rose

Well, its between 4 and 6 thousand BC. Sumerian culture. And it only reached china and northern Europe around 1200 BC.

Sven B.

@InbarRose Not a clue.

DampeS8N

15:42

@InbarRose At least I had the right order of magnitude.

Inbar Rose

Which means that not a single person in the America's had ever seen a wheel. And it was not developed independently there either. The first wheels in the America's were when the vikings brought them over in the 10th century.

Yes, the vikings had colonies in America. for almost 100 years, but they were driven out by the Native Americans.

Sven B.

Huh. Puts some perspective on things.

DampeS8N

@InbarRose Generally speaking, the wheel isn't that important an invention. There are plenty of other viable travel mechanisms. Boats, on the other hand, are critical for human expansion.

Sven B.

(And I knew about the Vikings in America... but I didn't figured they brought the whole concept of wheel with them.)

wax eagle

@InbarRose IIRC the bow and arrow was instrumental in their rebuttal

DampeS8N

15:45

@SvenB. It didn't take.

Inbar Rose

Yes, the Vikings were some of the best farmers in Europe, and they searched for better farmland, They brought advanced farming tools with them, which included wheels.

They raided and pillaged while their crops were growing, and they had nothing to do, they needed to supplement their farming for the rest of the year. Which means they raided their neighbors. They eventually colonized many places, and interbred with other populations.

Much of northern france (normandy) is historically viking, which they conquered a few centuries after the fall of the roman empire

Yay history. :)

Sven B.

@InbarRose Yup. I'm living proof of that.

DampeS8N

Alright. How about this: What is the world's oldest continuously practiced religion?

No looking it up.

Inbar Rose

That depends

DampeS8N

On?

Inbar Rose

15:52

When you say "religion" do you mean believe in a divine being? (or multiple divine beings) or spirits? or in a "code" ?

DampeS8N

Doesn't matter.

Inbar Rose

Sun worship is the oldest form of religion

so, Zoroastrianism

DampeS8N

Good, you are correct.

Inbar Rose

Wasn't hard.

Do you know that we get all the 10 commandments from Zoroaster?

DampeS8N

And most of the other 603

Inbar Rose

15:53

In fact, the concept of rules/regulations/crime/court/law is from the Zoroastrian religion.

DampeS8N

Indeed

Inbar Rose

It was much more ruthless back then.

Eye for an eye kind of thing. But it was there!

DampeS8N

It is also in grave danger right now. Which would be a terrible historical loss.

Sven B.

Is any of you a theology / history major, or just curious about it ?

Inbar Rose

I am a history buff? :)

It's my passion.

DampeS8N

15:55

Just curious. I researched many religions in my path to become an Atheist.

Sven B.

That's great. :)

Inbar Rose

Do you know where the concept of games comes from?

DampeS8N

of hand, no. But it is ooold

wax eagle

@InbarRose didn't the egyptians have dice and a chess variant?

Inbar Rose

Ancient Sumeria, there was a great drought, and there was much famine, the leaders devised a plan to keep people alive. They would rotate every other day between a "working" day and a "playing" day. The playing day would keep the people cool in the shade, and not mobile to not consume much energy, also, the games would keep their mind off the hunger.

This lasted a few years.

Many of the first games ever devised come from those ancient leaders.

And their undoubtedly wise men.

DampeS8N

15:58

I'm not sure that is the origin of games as a concept. I'm not sure it is even uniquely human.

Inbar Rose

I meant board games, should have clarified.

DampeS8N

ahh

Inbar Rose

Games you played sitting down, thinking games.

DampeS8N

Those games almost assuredly require written language, which is not really all that old.

wax eagle

@DampeS8N heh again we go to ancient egypt :)

Inbar Rose

16:00

@DampeS8N No.

@DampeS8N Mancala, Go, Mah Jongg, Chess, Ur.....

Also, the egyptian game Senet

Dice games, Backgammon, Checkers....

There are enough games without the need to read or write. :)

I must go. I bid you all farewell.

DampeS8N

Most of these do not predate written language. :P And the requirement is for keeping the rules.

Later. :)

Senet is the only listed game that might predate written language... and no one can agree on the rules because of that. haha

BESW

16:23

There's some pie-in-the-sky speculation that mancala predates civilization, but there's no proof of it.

John Craven

16:56

slappin hoes predates civilization

BESW

@JohnCraven That seems both irrelevant and inappropriate.

Adnan

@JohnCraven Who the wussy who flagged this one?

John Craven

I was speaking of pre-civilization sports... honestly, beyond basic concepts I don't really know of many

Adnan

Starred. My job here is done.

John Craven

you would think something like soccer predates civilzation but as far as I know it originated during medieval times as "town ball"

I have starred your starring comment in protest!!!

C. Ross

17:43

Hi all

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Is the former a duplicate of the latter?

wax eagle

@C.Ross I dunno, is the 3.5 qualifier vs system agnostic significant?

John Craven

realm management isn't really a part of 3.5 anyway, so I would say not

BESW

I'm going VTC as dupe, and asking him to tell us why it's not a dupe.

That generally seems like the thing to do: close as a dupe until they've clarified what they're looking for that the previous question isn't helping with.

wax eagle

effectively teh answers are the same (in fact mxy's answer is basically to look at the answer to the other question...)...in that case they are duplicates under "this question is answered over yonder"

BESW

Ayuh. Usually they don't clarify.

John Craven

17:51

Close it because it sounds like a board game anyway!!! Tell them to play Lords of Waterdeep

Alex P

18:41

@InbarRose Going viking is a weird mix of raiding and trading. Kinda like being a player character in D&D, in a sense.

ReaperOscuro

19:38

@Aaron more ignorance: so if its post when you like, does that mean there are sessions which don't require insta responses, and can be "played" by someone with little time to spare -eg. A pm once every 2-3hrs??

Aaron

@ReaperOscuro The PM are one on one and some people don't mind posting whenever. I was in a rp where I was never online at the same time as the other except when we first started.

@ReaperOscuro Room rps are different and need your attention more often as there are no logs kept so when you log off and on you wont see what other's post.

ReaperOscuro

Ah thanks @Aaron! I think ill need to check this pming business :) what was the site again, rphaven? Any particular subgroup within it, or just search for pm sessions?

Also, is the text games you mentioned of a similar ilk?

Aaron

@ReaperOscuro Enter the chat from the top part and explore. Join one of the larger room and you could get some help I am sure.

@ReaperOscuro Which text games?

ReaperOscuro

.....lol im not sure @Aaron, i thought you mentioned it sometime yesterday, but i may be confused...

@Zachiel si! Well, technically im a hybrid, but whos counting, born and bred in the MotherLand after all! Although Zachiel: what is the commitment needs for this chat forum rping? In terms of posting frequency required

@JohnCraven lol dont worry about the lack of academic retention, i recall nothing! Did i even go to school? Who knows!

ReaperOscuro

20:57

@InbarRose btw you are tots wrong on all counts.

All originated with the onyx pillar and the primordians. All know such.

And thank you all for the wonderful knowledge, ultimate capitalist food, and ultimate mithril item

Personally though i prefer orichalcum, go atlantis!

@Zachiel ah forgot to say: yea sunless citadel, spot on :D

@BrianBallsun-Stanton am i pinging you correctly? Was hoping for clarification why my post on the change dc from wis to cha wrong, ta

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