Root Access

HackToHell

00:46

The stylish version needs tweaking ...

Matthew Wong

01:18

a bit quiet here with so many people

Hennes

Shhht! I am hunting wabbits. :)

Einsteins Grandson

01:48

hey guys

does anybody know which .NET framework was the latest that I could install on Windows XP?

4.0?

or 3.5?

for 4.5 i would need Vista or 7 or 8 ?

it's true

4.0 is the latest

Joshua

the most recent version .net framework that works on Windows XP is 4.0

Einsteins Grandson

how about XPS viewer?

how can i run it in Windows XP?

any command line command?

or where I can find the .exe that I would run?

Hennes

for an XPS viewer?

Joshua

microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11816

Hennes

I think it is under windhoos software. Wait a sec (boots XP vm)

Einsteins Grandson

01:58

yes

Hennes

Ah, it was no in Xp by default. It was in win7 by default.

Joshua

@Hennes that is because XPS was released after the days of XP

Einsteins Grandson

so?

can i run it at all in XP?

;o)

Hennes

I remember deinstalling it, and then getting an 'important update' because a program I did not have installed had a newer version.

Joshua

Yes follow the link I just posted

Hennes

02:02

For XP, download it from Joshua's link. For win7 just tick the 'windows feature' called 'XPS viewer'

Einsteins Grandson

ok

thanks

goodnight

3:08 in Europ

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Hennes

Yeah.

Same here. I just got the 3 AM cron jobs output in the mail

Joshua

How do I format my answers better?

Journeyman Geek

@Joshua: what do you mean?

link something thats not up to scratch

HackToHell

For some unbelievable reason, 64 bit Windows 8 works while 32 bit install fails ! yay anyway :P

Hennes

02:12

I mostly spied how others did it, until someone pointed me at superuser.com/editing-help

HackToHell

Win 8 is really different :/

Journeyman Geek

ya, that helps

Joshua

I thought Clippy was freakin dead...

Journeyman Geek

and learning to use the keyboard markup

Hennes

Aye. And hard to use without a manual.

Joshua

02:13

Journeyman Geek

@Joshua: That is not dead which can eternal lie,
and with strange aeons even death may die.

;p

Joshua

@JourneymanGeek you just blew up my brain...

Hennes

Darn. I need to google that. I am at the 'it just sounds familiar'

Journeyman Geek

:)

Hennes

Weird. I do not normally read lovecraft.

Matthew Wong

02:22

How can I make myself the owner of SE? (Just testing)

hehehehe it works.

Journeyman Geek

02:35

@Hennes: Its probably the most famous line by him

Ben Brocka

03:14

Uh, does win 8 not do pinch to zoom stuff? I can't seem to get it to work in Chrome (desktop). It worked (not like it does in iOS, but still) back in win 7...

KronoS

03:28

is anyone else experiencing weird things over at SO chat?

chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/10/loungec

it looks like this:

Journeyman Geek

@KronoS: that looks like it does when your internet is slow, and it won't load properly

KronoS

@JourneymanGeek but I'm not having any issues here

(meaning root access)

Journeyman Geek

there's a chance SO's chat is on a different server

KronoS

@JourneymanGeek I'm assuming that it is... in fact I'm pretty sure it is

sidran32

03:50

Ok, I have to say, this Sony VAIO Duo 11 is freaking awesome :D

And, interestingly, despite it being the same Windows 8 that I have on my desktop, using it in tablet form feels so different than using it on my desktop.

Right now I'm typing on the hardware keyboard, though. Still getting used to the size, but it works well.

And... the screen is downright gorgeous.

Matthew Wong

04:22

is it frowned upon to ask the person who asked the question to mark the answer as an answer?

sidran32

Generally, no.

Bob

@KronoS weird things here :P

took me a while to connect to Root Access

@sidran32 that's cause it's a tablet UI

without touch, you're missing half the features :P

Sathya

morning

Matthew Wong

morning

Sathya

@KronoS it's fine here, seems like the CSS might have been truncated in your case

Matthew Wong

04:30

hmm seems like messages take a while to load

sidran32

Not really. I don't feel like I'm missing anything when I use it on the desktop. I just feel like my user experience is different, but neither sacrifices much of anything. Surprisingly, I'd say Microsoft got windows 8 pretty right.

Bob

@HackToHell UEFI? GPT?

sidran32

Hi @Sathya

Bob

@sidran32 desktop mode, and the main screen, are alright

Matthew Wong

hey @Sathya

Bob

04:31

but scrolling, especially sideways, is awkward with the mouse

Matthew Wong

i'd like your opinion on this

Bob

for one, the scrollbars pretty much fade out

sidran32

@Bob I don't find issues with scrolling. I just use the scroll wheel and it scrolls just fine.

I think you can click and drag anywhere, too

Bob

if your scrollwheel does side scrolling :P

click and drag doesn't work for me

which is part of the problem

sidran32

@Bob Side scrolling isn't necessary. Just use vertical scrolling and it scrolls :P

Bob

04:32

dunno if it's supposed to and just my drivers, or not supposed to

I swear it didn't on the Store

@sidran32 o.O

sidran32

I dunno. I don't remember. I have a touchscreen here :P

@Bob I guess you never tried using vertical scrolling with the scroll wheel, then? :P

Bob

@sidran32 probably not

either that or it didn't work

I'd hardly be complaining if it worked, would I? :P

sidran32

@Bob It definitely works. I use it all the time. I'd be much more fed up with Metro on the desktop if it didn't :P

Bob

@sidran32 just to clarify, you mean the vertical scrollwheel scrolls sideways?

sidran32

@Bob Yes.

Bob

04:35

I'm gonna reboot and go check

sidran32

Up goes to the left side, down goes to th right side.

Ok

Bob

if it doesn't, hello new question :P

sidran32

:)

Man, I'm gonna love having this thing. It's so awesome. :)

I can see why some reviewers dinged it for having sharp edges, but it honestly doesn't really bother me. The hardware feels just rock solid.

Sathya

@sidran32 pics?

sidran32

@Sathya They'll probably be crappy but I'll try :P

Not pictured is the stylus, which I haven't tried much yet, but it does work well :P

Bob

04:45

@sidran32 ok, it worked o.O

I can't believe I never tried that :S

sidran32

@Bob Well, there you go :)

Bob

thanks

sidran32

No problem :)

So yeah, @Sathya, that's my new tablet hybrid thingy :P

It's so awesome. And so thin! I did not expect that.

Bob

@sidran32 how much does it weigh?

sidran32

It isn't that bad at all. In terms of size and weight, actually, it's pretty much comparable to the MacBook Air, if you ever felt one of those.

Bob

04:49

nope :P

sidran32

@Bob Well... looks up specs

Bob

anyway, currently trying to figure out how to get Firefox Elm to show the tab bar without a touchscreen :P

cool

sidran32

Approximately 2.8 lbs

Bob

right click twice

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

04:50

@sidran32 not bad :P

sidran32

@Bob You get the hidden menu thingies in metro apps by right-clicking :p

Bob

I recall Asus has a (RT) tablet at about half a kilo

@sidran32 yea, got the first one... didn't know the tab bar came with a second click

sidran32

@Bob Aha

Bob

I expected the tab bar to come on the first or not at all

sidran32

Ah

Um, anyways... I need to shower and get to bed, and stop playing with my new toy :o

Bob

04:51

in fact, never seen a double right click WinRT program before

sidran32

... I think I'm getting used to this keyboard.

Bob

lol

does it have any weird key placement?

sidran32

It's just smaller. That, and to use home/end/pgdn/pgup, I have to press the Fn key + arrow keys

Journeyman Geek

thats pretty common on tenkeyless keyboards

Bob

eh, not bad

sidran32

04:54

Yeah. And laptop manufacturers in general seem to enjoy being creative in key placement for those particular keys.

Bob

I have one where you have pageup/down, but home is fn + pageup and end is fn+pagedown, and both are tiny buttons :P

sidran32

The optical touchpoint works pretty well but it's hard to lift my finger off it without moving the pointer around.

Journeyman Geek

ya, even lenovo, with their giant dekete key

sidran32

Heheh.

Journeyman Geek

optical touchpoint? thats a new one

Bob

04:55

I keep hitting something else. Doesn't help my main laptop has them vertially along the right (I actually like this arrangement, it's quite easy to use)

sidran32

@JourneymanGeek Think clit mouse but it's an optical sensor.

I think it uses IR or something. I see no light.

Bob

@sidran32 of all the names to use... :P

sidran32

@Bob It's not my name :P

Bob

could be a capacitive sensor, like a shrunk down touchpad

sidran32

Naw, they said it's optical.

Journeyman Geek

04:57

oh, they used to be pretty common on phones

Bob

I don't really see how an optical sensor is meant to work with a small finger over the top, but meh :P

sidran32

@Bob Just slide your finger over it. It's sort of like sliding your finger over the optical sensor of a regular mouse :P

Bob

@sidran32 which leads to either really jerky, short movement or no movement at all :\

evidently, this sensor is different

sidran32

@Bob Yeah, but this is designed for this kind of usage, so it works. Just takes getting used to, like any other pointing device.

Bob

perhaps turning mosue acceleration off would help too

sidran32

04:58

Per your comfort.

Bob

I meant the finger-on-underside-of-mouse

hm

would a question (and self-answer) on FF Elm's tab bar be too localised?

sidran32

Dunno. Ok, I'm really going to bed now. Goodnight!

Bob

night

Journeyman Geek

I wouldn't think so

Sathya

@sidran32 nice, how thick is it?

Bob

05:03

@JourneymanGeek eh, worst case it can be closed if FF Elm changes :P

KronoS

@Sathya finally got it working

Sathya

→ 5 messages moved to Fake Programmers

Journeyman Geek

06:01

just got a 'my computer is running slow' call from dad

thinks the system just needs a defrag, or something, but its too much of a PITA to know for certain long distance

wrong channel

... really not my week ;p

avirk

@JourneymanGeek really?

@JourneymanGeek last day i spent my 50 rep and earned it very soon just by 2 answers :)

@Bob hello :)

Journeyman Geek

lots of computer issues

avirk

@JourneymanGeek what happen?

Bob

@avirk hi

@avirk hard drive failure, OS failure, boot failure

from what I heard anyway :S

Sathya

← 3 messages moved from Ask a Super User Moderator

avirk

06:14

@Bob for him or for you :P

@Sathya hi! Hope Neelam is not hitting too much there :)

Bob

@avirk for @JourneymanGeek

Sathya

Nilam's hitting the south east coast, not south central

avirk

@Bob then its normal for him :P

@Sathya hmmm, I really very far from the news, My sister was talking about its in the South but not the exact way on it.

However let's see when @allquixotic come back. Hope he is fine with his family.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: and issues installing linux, don't forget ;p

Bob

@avirk he was here last night

in fact, he reported in right after and said he escaped more or less unscathed

avirk

06:24

@Bob great, so i missed him as last night I was not here :)

0

A: Windows 8 does not provide option to choose which user have to login at welcome screen like Windows 7

Here is a technique I used to achieve the reverse - hide users from the Welcome Screen in Windows 7. However, there is a 50% chance you could modify it to achieve what you want and show users in Windows 8. 1.Navigate to the Winlogon section of the registry, to be precise: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsof...

I'm not aware to Plural and singular in Registry entry yet :P

sidran32

@Sathya I don't have the measurements on hand but, comparable to the MacBook Air.

And... I should be sleeping :p

Dang portable computers. My bane!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Sathya

@sidran32 nice, doesn't look so from the the pics

@sidran32 see ya!

sidran32

:)

Yeah, I knew it would be thin but didn't expect it to be this thin, even still.

Goodnight!

slhck

06:49

@Sathya Do you want this for webapps? (would need a rewrite I guess) Or just close it here? superuser.com/questions/498201/…

Bob

o.O

wut.

Careers 2.0?

What is this...

Sathya

@slhck not really, just close it

Bob

shrug

slhck

@Bob Pretty cool actually, but haven't used it nor am I planning to :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I got an invite from someone on AU

I have no idea what to put on it at the moment ;)

Sathya

06:55

your name's hard, @slhck :P

AbhishekGirish juts google "Gmail pop frequency". Karthink +1. @slck, apologies. Any idea where I can ask this question? I googled, but had no luck. — Mawg 1 min ago

slhck

@Sathya I know right? I probably missed over 9000 pings already.

avirk

@slhck change it slack :D

slhck

@avirk Someone suggested to change it to shashlik

avirk

@slhck nah! sounds like a shampoo brand like Sun-silk :D

Matthew Wong

@slhck

you have windows 8 on atm right?

slhck

06:58

@MatthewWong No, I only run OS X, sorry

Matthew Wong

dam. anyone else?

slhck

@MatthewWong I guess everyone here runs Win 8 except for me :P

avirk

@MatthewWong i have 30 days trial ver.

Matthew Wong

i was going to ask you but it seems like you answered it already

avirk

@MatthewWong hahahah, but that will also call the snipping tool which OP don't want to.

Matthew Wong

07:09

OP doesn't want a lot of stuff.

Sathya

@slhck still on Win 7 here, for all practical purposes

ronalchn

07:22

Just completed my blog post

0

A: Our Windows 8 contest has started, submit your blog posts here!

Experiences upgrading Windows 7 to 8 on an HP Pavilion dv6 laptop Having had a laptop preinstalled with Windows 7 for 2 years now, I decided to try to upgrade to Windows 8, especially since my university allows me to download Windows 8 free off DreamSpark. There are some obstacles to overcome, b...

slhck

@Sathya But I guess you've tested it though?

Sathya

@slhck yes, release preview though, not the RTM version

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: back to windows 7 for now ;p

slhck

heh

wut

-1. This smacks way too much of an advertisement for Win8 for my taste. An ad banner for the challenge site across the superuser main page and search result pages? Maybe I haven't been around long enough, but I've never seen one of those for a new version of, say, Ubuntu. Yes, superuser.com is also about OSs, but this seems to me to be an inappropriate way of getting our posters to bang the MS publicity drum. — aaamos Oct 30 at 0:34

Journeyman Geek

might go back to linux if I can work out why I can't seem to install linux on it

slhck

07:31

lol

what happens?

Journeyman Geek

had a horrible day yesterday

@slhck: gets stuck. I THINK its cause I'm running unetbootin off the same physical drive

but I know its worked before

slhck

hmm

just get a usb key?

Journeyman Geek

ya ;p

need to go find one, its in this mess somewhere ;p

slhck

haha

Journeyman Geek

this is the same day my windows 8 VHD stopped working, and I had to hunt down the saved game of a game that was on the VHD... and not in the obvious location

slhck

07:33

I have like 20 spare usb keys lying around here

Journeyman Geek

OH

Matthew Wong

damm

i wish i had that many

Journeyman Geek

and my external HDD with all my music... well I accidentally converted it to a storage pool drive

slhck

The company I worked for gave them out for free

Journeyman Geek

considered doing a recovery, then decided not to bother.. reformatted and restored from backup

slhck

07:34

Plus, in my father's office they also gave away some as presents to customers. Turns out 4000 of those USB keys were infected.

Journeyman Geek

oops ;p

slhck

@Sathya -_-

Joe

11 2

Sathya

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

slhck

I have that search bookmarked already.

Matthew Wong

banned?

slhck

07:38

No, technically not.

Journeyman Geek

hmm?

slhck

Click the Joe link again :P

Journeyman Geek

I get a page not found ;p

Matthew Wong

me too

slhck

Joe

90 4

autohotkey download dreamspark java windows-8 parser google-chrome

That's the "father Joe"

Journeyman Geek

07:40

ahh

slhck

So if you ever see a question by a guy named Joe with a yellow gravatar, feel free to flag for attention

Journeyman Geek

lol

for mergification?

slhck

yup

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/questions/498216/… I feel a little sorry for his employer.

njallam

08:09

If I want to answer a question but there are two different ways of answering it, do I put both methods in one answer or do I make 2 separate answers?

Matthew Wong

same answer

just put a line split

njallam

OK, thanks

Bob

boot from livecd, reformat them one by one? :P

FREE FLASH DRIVES! :D

@njallam your choice

both are acceptable

if they're completely different methods, some people recommend separate answers

otehr people thing you're rep farming :\

but there's a reason you can add multiple answers

njallam

I feel if I post multiple answers, someone will just combine them and get all the credit.

Bob

20

Q: What is the official etiquette on answering a question twice?

When is it ok to post two answers to one question on StackOverflow?

discussion questions answers

njallam

08:14

Well, no longer a problem. I just discovered the second method only works in Windows XP. Thanks for the help though.

njallam

08:26

0

Q: "The username or password is incorrect windows 7." without entering login details

Usually when booting up a Windows 7, usually you are presented with the login screen. On my computer, I am first presented with this screen: After clicking OK, I can login with my correct details and the system lets me log in fine. At first I thought this may be because it was left idle and ...

windows-7 login user-accounts

Matthew Wong

@njallam there aren't 50 people here :P

njallam

@MatthewWong I just wouldn't mind a proof read - It's a Q&A post.

Matthew Wong

okay give me a min

i just did some rewording for the question

njallam

@MatthewWong Approved

Bob

@MatthewWong I don't think sharing from SE sites counts

especially not in oneboxed chat messages, since you need that special link with your userid in it

njallam

08:36

@Bob They don't

Matthew Wong

FFFFFFFFFFF I JUST GOT A DOUBLE BSOD AND I COULDN'T PULL OUT MY CAMERA IN TIME

njallam

D:

Bob

wait what

double bsod?

and what's that got to do with pulling out a camera?

ohhhh

I thought you meant unplug a camera from the computer

still, what's a double bsod?

njallam

BSOD in VM and then BSOD on Host?

Bob

08:51

ouch

Matthew Wong

double bsod = two bsod's side by side

njallam

ah

Not this then^

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/questions/498256/google-search-with-or-condition sometimes...

how is this even remotely on topic?

njallam

Sounds like it should be on:

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