Root Access

Mahesh

14:00

detect any os andchoose from list.

unNaturhal

Yeah.. lubuntu is starting, thanks..

Mahesh

okay, so i heard your windows partition is being shown as raw.

unNaturhal

It sees also an entry callded Windows Vista, but as I said bbefore, it not sttarts

Mahesh

did you backup your partition as bob said?

unNaturhal

Yeah, but I dunno what does it mean

Mahesh

14:01

if the windows partition has a problem, grub disk cant do any black magic. we have to fix it ourselves.

did you execute the dd command he gave or not?

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Note yet, I just make it starts

Mahesh

okay, lets backup things first, and try tools, one by one.

unNaturhal

@Mahesh I don't.. I dunno how to sttart the pc, I started it just right now that you said to use the usbkey

Mahesh

okay. let it boot up.

unNaturhal

The problem now is: lubunto doesn't see the 60GB partition (the one with the raw filesystem)

How I can backup it?

Mahesh

14:04

actually, buddy, lubuntu sees it. it doesn't show. :P

i'll tell you how.

did you log in/

unNaturhal

Log in? Where?

Mahesh

into lubuntu.

and open a terminal.

unNaturhal

I started it

Ok

Got it

Mahesh

now, sudo fdisk -l

unNaturhal

Done

Mahesh

14:06

and double check everything you type when it has a sudo.

jus saying..

now, gimme the output

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Yeah :P

Mmmh.. ok wait

(I can stay logged in here from two different pc?)

alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for alberto:

Disco /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 byte
255 testine, 63 settori/tracce, 38913 cilindri
Unità = cilindri di 16065 * 512 = 8225280 byte
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Identificativo disco: 0x460b22c3

Dispositivo Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
La partizione 1 non termina al limite del cilindro.

Mahesh

i guess yes.. may be. try it.

unNaturhal

This is the output

jokerdino

hi @Gnoupi.

Got some spam to fry?

unNaturhal

If there is something that you can't understand I will be glad to translate

Mahesh

14:09

whoa! wait..

open file browser.

do you see a 60GB file system?

unNaturhal

Not in the file manager

Mahesh

umm... okay. lets backup then.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino I actually "fixed" one

0

A: What is the best way to create tactile bumps on your keyboard?

There are 2 cheap sticker solutions that I know of. "Keyboard Bumps" "LocDots" Disclaimer: I'm associated with "Keyboard bumps".

unNaturhal

@Mahesh This is what I see imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/201208071610181366x768s.png

jokerdino

Heh, nice work!

Gnoupi

14:11

The guy has "keyboardbumps" as his website

But at same time, he makes effort to answer other questions

jokerdino

I think he at least seems to give one other answer.

Gnoupi

So, no, not roasting him yet

Mahesh

sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/somefile/on/your/data/partition

@unNaturhal ^^

jokerdino

@Gnoupi wish all spammers contribute productively ;p

Gnoupi

now if he rollbacks, or keeps talking about those bumps, then it will probably need to be removed

jokerdino

14:12

though that would be oxymoronic.

Mahesh

and it takes a lot of time, be patient.

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Some file on my data partition?...

I don't remember the path of everything

And everything has to be saved...

Gnoupi

@Mahesh I have "code monkey" by Coulton in my headphones at this moment, and I see you talking. How appropriate

Mahesh

@unNaturhal mount your data partition.

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Mmhh wait..

I'm confused :p

The partition of 60GB, is not called Data

Data is the partition that you can see in the screenshot

Mahesh

14:14

@jokerdino help @unNaturhal to backup his /dev/sda2 as a file on his data partition. I'll be back in ten minutes. switching location to a kilometre away.

jokerdino

@Mahesh alright but how?

Mahesh

3 mins ago, by Mahesh

sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/somefile/on/your/data/partition

unNaturhal

This latest one, is larger enough to contain the entire partition with windows.. And I have to save all the thinks that are on windows partition (that is 60GB)

Mahesh

BRB. @jokerdino get him to mount data partition and execute that dd. it can take an hour to complete.

*it == dd command.

jokerdino

@Mahesh fine..

unNaturhal

14:18

@Mahesh @jokerdino I'm a donk, I know..

Gnoupi

Or, you know, he can also wait 10 minutes :p

jokerdino

@unNaturhal You don't know me fully then..

Boris_yo

Who is familiar with Android app that makes it easier to call from hidden number? (*67)

jokerdino

@Gnoupi Good idea too~

Gnoupi

@jokerdino I mean, it's a big thing to do. Better not hurry it

unNaturhal

14:20

@jokerdino I win the onlympic medal in 100m Donking, can you do better?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Voting to close as off-topic

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi What are you talking about?

jokerdino

@unNaturhal o.O

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo You asked about an android app on the SuperUser chat.

unNaturhal

@jokerdino xD

Boris_yo

14:22

@Gnoupi Man, are you high?

unNaturhal

lol

jokerdino

@unNaturhal okay, where are you stuck now?

i don't know why you are dd-ing all of a sudden.

backing up the drive i suppose?

unNaturhal

@jokerdino I'm trying to understood how dd command works

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo You're the one who's off-topic, not me.

unNaturhal

@jokerdino Yes

Boris_yo

14:23

@Gnoupi I was talking politics and nationalities on SU chat when you walked in your diaper under table.

6

jokerdino

@unNaturhal it apparently converts and copies the file. useful to make backup or copy a filesystem

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo I would have suspended you for that comment, 2 years ago.

unNaturhal

@jokerdino Ok.. but.. The first value (after if) is the source and the second is the destination, right?

jokerdino

:-)

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Now on a more serious topic, go answer some questions. 130 questions and 4 answers, what's that?

Boris_yo

14:25

@Gnoupi Suddenly you appear and tell me what is off-topic? Where've you been?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Unfortunately no one jumped to tell you what is sarcasm

jokerdino

@unNaturhal I would think so.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi So far you are the only one.

jokerdino

This is getting dangerous. Wait till Mahesh comes back.

unNaturhal

@jokerdino Okok ;P

Gnoupi

14:26

@jokerdino my point exactly, a wrong argument, and it could be bad :p

jokerdino

@Gnoupi @unNaturhal I wouldn't want to be sued because of an erroneous Linux command. That would be nightmarish. :p

Or maybe he can try someone in Ask Ubuntu chat. Someone ought to know stuff.

Ask Ubuntu General Room

Normally: General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & offic...

3

unNaturhal

I can wait ten minutes that @Mahesh will back :)

jokerdino

@unNaturhal The problem is, he is too unreliable. I have known him for quite some time ;p

unNaturhal

@jokerdino LOL

I trust you, but it seems reliable :p

jokerdino

If he comes back, good luck to you.

Gnoupi

14:30

@Boris_yo chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/25/android will probably bring you better answers to your current question

And thanks for the laugh

7 mins ago, by Boris_yo

@Gnoupi I was talking politics and nationalities on SU chat when you walked in your diaper under table.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi It won't. Have you been there before me? I don't think so because I am chat user since 04/17/2011. Welcome to SU chat btw.

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo I was on this chat when it was in beta. But thanks for the welcome!

Boris_yo

Your stats don't indicate this. @Gnoupi

jokerdino

I don't know what's the problem here.

Sathya

Win 8 guys. (cc: @nhinkle)

0

Q: How do I get Windows 8 to run 2 Metro apps on each display of an extended display?

I have a Dell U2312HM 23" screen connected to my HP Envy laptop in Extended desktop mode. Is there a way I get get 2 Metro "Windows 8 Style UI" to run side-by-side, with one app on each of the screens? My attempts to run them both on either side have been futile, Windows insists on putting the ...

jokerdino

14:35

@Sathya Metro? What metro?

Gnoupi

Hey @Sathya

jokerdino

(They dropped the term Metro)

Gnoupi

apparently stats for chat resetted when it came out of beta, i see

Sathya

@jokerdino I can't put strikesthrough on title. Read the question.

Evening @Gnoupi.

jokerdino

@Sathya call me natoob then.

Gnoupi

14:36

"chat user since 2012-07-26" haha

Boris_yo

@Sathya Is it true what Gnoupi says?

Sathya

@Boris_yo he's been here way before me.

Gnoupi

Groupi?

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Yea, SU chat came out of beta on 2012-07-26

@Sathya This is conspiracy! How much did Gnoupi pay you?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Hey, Boris:

14

Q: Summer 2010 Moderator Appointments

Due to a continual and ever-growing stream of mod flags, and a desire to be respectful of the time existing moderators are contributing to our community, I propose we add one new moderator to each classic trilogy site. So, I submit for your disapproval: on Stack Overflow: Will and mmyer...

discussion status-completed stackexchange moderation election

jokerdino

14:38

@Boris_yo how about you check MSU and search for his name? :-)

@Gnoupi Hey, how much you paid Jeff again? :P

Gnoupi

So anyway, like I said, your "diaper" comment made me laugh

jokerdino

oh i missed that comment.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino it's starred now!

jokerdino

Whichever one you pinged me.

Sathya

@jokerdino right over there points to starred items

jokerdino

14:41

@Gnoupi Not the diaper one. The one you just removed.

Bah, let the removed be removed.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino it was "He was paying me!" then I censored it for saying too much

jokerdino

I guess it was a joke. Hehe, You can now remove it. Thanks for reposting.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi I'm taking your diaper back after doing quick research. You should have that link ready when questioned about authority on SU.

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo That's a very disturbing thing to say

@Boris_yo I don't need to prove my authority

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Thanks for showing me though.

jokerdino

14:44

@Gnoupi BTW, if you need to buy any exotic items, you can ask Boris for that.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi What is so disturbing about it?

@jokerdino I am not in diaper selling business.

jokerdino

o.O

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi When was the last time I posted question?

jokerdino

DX.. maybe

HackToHell

Khan Academy saves the day ;)

Gnoupi

14:45

@Boris_yo not sure if that's something to be thankful for. Now seriously, go post some answers. you posted 184 questions on SE, and 5 answers.

jokerdino

@Gnoupi I am afraid you ran through my profile long before you started replying to my message o.O

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Asking questions isn't about adding value too?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Less. That's also why you receive 5 reputation per upvote on a question, and 10 on an answer.

@Boris_yo Is that your website in your profile?

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Maybe asking questions is what I am good at on SU. There are others that will contribute better answers than me.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino I haven't understood what you meant

Boris_yo

14:53

@Gnoupi Yes but you should remove it because it is not ready. I am just maintaining it for my future blog.

jokerdino

@Gnoupi I am saying you probably did a background check on me as well..

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo I'm just curious, does it really help sales to have fake 3D software boxes on a website?

jokerdino

It was a joke.. went awry.

HackToHell

TIL you can drag Youtube's Captions

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo I'm honestly curious, because I usually see that on most sites which are selling dubious programs (converters and other registry cleaners)

Boris_yo

14:56

@Gnoupi I am not selling. I had this website's design made years ago for free as a result of buying a hosting package. Links shouldn't be functioning.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino Nah, I don't do background checks. Only on new accounts which are spammers :P And even, I don't have all the tools now.

@Boris_yo Ok, nevermind my question, then

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Moderators are not supposed to have all the tools?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Also, I can't remove it. I'm not a moderator anymore. Can't you tell by the fact you can still post?

jokerdino

@Gnoupi Like I said, it was meant to be a joke. A pretty bad apparently.

And, I am a poor joker.

Gnoupi

@jokerdino Nah, I'm just tired :p

jokerdino

14:57

:D

HackToHell

imgur.com/xxPtC

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi And provided you were moderator, why wouldn't I be able to post.

Gnoupi

34 mins ago, by Gnoupi

@Boris_yo I would have suspended you for that comment, 2 years ago.

But then again, sarcasm

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi That's when you were moderator?

Gnoupi

@jokerdino Obviously there's a curse on this chat for people to get humor

5

jokerdino

14:59

@Gnoupi hehe.

I know what you mean.

I have failed to pick up sarcasm so many times in this chat room.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi It is way easier to get humor by seeing person you are talking with face-to-face.

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo Yes. But then again, temporal paradox, you didn't exist then.

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi Should I go back in time?

Gnoupi

@Boris_yo do you want to get suspended?

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi No, I want to take your place back then.

Gnoupi

15:02

@Boris_yo Then why do you ask?

And more importantly, why am I still continuing this topic

Oh well

puff

Boris_yo

@Gnoupi There's no need.

Mahesh

15:20

@unNaturhal i'm back. sorry for the longwait. had my dinner

unNaturhal

@Mahesh No problem :)

jokerdino

@unNaturhal <told you so>

HaydnWVN

mmmm... dinner.

Mahesh

:P

HaydnWVN

anything nice?

jokerdino

15:20

@HaydnWVN Batman

unNaturhal

@jokerdino Ahahah xD

Mahesh

okay, so backup done?

unNaturhal

Nope :(

jokerdino

@Mahesh mope

Mahesh

@HaydnWVN nah. paranthas with butter.

umm.. whats preventing you?

jokerdino

15:21

the scorn faced joker

unNaturhal

@jokerdino says that was batter to wait for you

HaydnWVN

he couldn't get the dd command to work, wasn't sure about the source or soemthing along those lines

source/destination/blah

Mahesh

oh.. okay.

jokerdino

@unNaturhal yeah that

Mahesh

is your lubuntu running?

unNaturhal

15:22

Yes

HackToHell

@Mahesh butter as of raw butter ?

Mahesh

umm.. i dont know. its processed may be..

unNaturhal

@jokerdino :P

jokerdino

:-)

Mahesh

@unNaturhal okay. can you access yourdata partition?

unNaturhal

15:24

@Mahesh Depends on what you mean

If you mean the partition named Data

So yes

Mahesh

yup.

open it.

unNaturhal

If you mean the partition where windows was installed on.. nope..

Opened

(I have also created a direcotory where save the backup)

Mahesh

decide a place where to save backup.

ok. good.

now, open terminal.

unNaturhal

Opened

Mahesh

sudo fdisk -l and check for the partition thats nearly 60GB

is it /dev/sda2?

unNaturhal

15:26

alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for alberto:

Disco /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 byte
255 testine, 63 settori/tracce, 38913 cilindri
Unità = cilindri di 16065 * 512 = 8225280 byte
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Identificativo disco: 0x460b22c3

Dispositivo Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
La partizione 1 non termina al limite del cilindro.

I think yes

And fdisk says that it's filesystem is not raw but NTFS...

Mahesh

okay.

unNaturhal

Another strange thing..

Mahesh

yourdata partition is probablymounted inside media.

unNaturhal

Umh?

Yess

Mahesh

@unNaturhal yup, thats the reason i asked ifit was accessible from file manager.

unNaturhal

15:27

/media/Data

Mahesh

sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/media/Data/backupdirectory/backup.img

double check everything before you hit enter.

dd can mess up things very horribly if mis-typed.

unNaturhal

sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/media/Data/CBackup/backup.img

This will backup the entire partition?

Mahesh

yup.

unNaturhal

Okay

Mahesh

and takes hell lot oftime.

jokerdino

15:31

Hell lotta time that you can go to college and come back with a degree and it will still go on~

unNaturhal

It asked the password and now is still

@jokerdino Oh god...

Mahesh

once its done, you'll have full freedom to mess with things, knowing thatits all backed up.

@unNaturhal ok, dont touch it fora while.

as in.. 60GB at 1 mbps takes??

take it as an estimate.

:P

jokerdino

@unNaturhal :-)

unNaturhal

60000MB at 1 MBps... = 60000 seconds = 1000 minutes = a fucking so much hour O_O

16 hours...

Mahesh

jus kidding.. it runs at 3 mbps on my system at times..

unNaturhal

15:34

Wait, I open the window and throw myself..

Eh eh..

It means 16/3 hours..

Mahesh

if you wanta full backup, rock solid,letit run

unNaturhal

= 5 hours..

Mahesh

thatsthe best fool proof way i know of.

unNaturhal

Yeah, I let it run

Mahesh

:|

HaydnWVN

15:35

What limits the speed? I'd have thought DD from one partition dumping to a file on the same disk should be pretty quick?

unNaturhal

How I can see the percentage progress and when it ends?

HaydnWVN

DD/dd

Mahesh

@HaydnWVN it depends, solely on disk r/wspeed.

plus the fact that it runs in chunks of 512kb.

@unNaturhal send a USR1 signal to that process.

it prints progress and continues.

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Umh?

How?

Mahesh

one sec.

unNaturhal

15:38

Ye;)

Mahesh

open another terminal and ps-afrom it.

* ps -a

and note the pid of dd.

unNaturhal

berto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ ps -a
  PID TTY          TIME CMD
 1779 pts/0    00:02:10 dd
 1814 pts/1    00:00:00 ps
alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$

Mahesh

kill -USR1 1779

add a sudo before that.

unNaturhal

Kill? o.o

Mahesh

yup. it sends a signal.

doesn't kill as in murder.

default is the murder action. :P

unNaturhal

15:41

xD

Nothing happened

Mahesh

look at the terminal in which dd is running.

it will havethe output.

unNaturhal

7529153+0 record dentro
7529152+0 record fuori
3854925824 byte (3,9 GB) copiati, 637,587 s, 6,0 MB/s

Oh _

6MB/s

I love this number!

Mahesh

:D

only coz i told you itss normal speed. :P

HaydnWVN

do you see the destination file and it's size growing? Or is that me being too hopeful? ;)

unNaturhal

@Mahesh It's better to understimate, so it can only go better xD

@HaydnWVN Yes, but not in real time

You have to refresh di directory :P

(6.2GB.. it should be about 1%)

No wait...

10%!

10% in 5 minutes seems really faster!

HaydnWVN

15:52

Nice!

unNaturhal

:D

HaydnWVN

I'm wiping old 2.5" laptop IDE drives... 20/40/60GB (boot & nuke 3 at a time) and it reads 52 hours remaining... :'(

unNaturhal

@HaydnWVN I think that linux is reasonably faster than windows.. On windows the backup that I'm doung should take some years

The speed is decreasing... ._.

HaydnWVN

I prefer doing disk/disk or interface/interface but that's just me

Mahesh

@HaydnWVN wait.. how areyou wiping them?

HaydnWVN

16:06

dariks boot & nuke

(from hiren)

Mahesh

I was about to suggest that! :D

HaydnWVN

these are old drives, possibly with bad sectors so i'm hardly surprised :)

Mahesh

all's well then..

HaydnWVN

i'm actually doing it from within gparted - i run a drive health first to determine if they can even handle wipe attempts lol

i'll still remove the platters, scratch them and put them on my shelf, ditching the rest of the drive.

can never be too careful!

and storing 20+ platters is easier than the headache of data theft... Or more importantly - the loss of sleep from sending them off site to be disposed :D

and on that note - hometime

Luke

Mahesh

16:11

@HaydnWVN totally agreed.

unNaturhal

Mmmmh.. Why the speed is decreasing with time?

Mahesh

melting them is a good option too..

HaydnWVN

goodluck unNaturhal and kudos to @Mahesh and @Bob for helping :)

Mahesh

@unNaturhal everytime you send a USR1, it stops what its doing, spits output, then starts again..

so its better not to nag it too often..

unNaturhal

@Mahesh Oh.. so I'm breaking it's ball xD

Mahesh

16:12

and speed 'may' decrease with time.

unNaturhal

@HaydnWVN Thanks :D

Mahesh

so its better not to nag it too often..

unNaturhal

Ok, I will see from the directory :p

Mahesh

:P

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh my connection!! its horrible

unNaturhal

Nearly 20%

@Mahesh LOL

Mine too, I understand u.u

Mahesh

16:20

@HaydnWVN :)

Rob

16:43

PROCESSING! PROCESSING!

Thanks outlook, didn't want to check my work email anyway.

Boris_yo

16:56

@Rob Outlook fails you to check work email? What would your boss say?

Rob

17:06

I had to kill it and restart it, it was busy PROCESSING away

:(

Boris_yo

@Rob I know Hotmail does that, but Outlook.com?

@Gnoupi Sorry If I offended you. My foreign jokes can be unclear at times...

@Mahesh Manesh? Your name is not Manish? What is wrong with all connections today?

@Rob Do you know why many people today here complain about slow internet connection? Am I missing news?

Simon Sheehan

17:29

@nhinkle oh I wouldn't say my ideapad is inferior at all. Its just built for a different purpose. Thinkpads are definitely more workstation type laptops. The Ideapad is more consumer oriented, but its got gaming chips for graphics, as opposed to Quadro/workstation type ones on a thinkpad. Still built really well, Lenovo is solid.

Oliver Salzburg

Jeeze, the whole day on the road. I come home to finally read some SU and the phone starts ringing off the hook.

Rob

@Boris_yo I mean outlook client on my computer, not outlook.com

Mokubai

Wha? Low quality is telling me there are no posts for me to review but that there are 1.6k awaiting review... :'(

Mahesh

17:58

@Boris_yo nope. its Mahesh

slhck

18:12

@Mokubai By the way, calling a WiFi hotspot via mobile phone "tethering" isn't uncommon in Germany or Austria

Mokubai

Fair enough, I've never heard it called that outside of america, and his surprise and offense at someone using the "hotspot" term irked me.

@slhck I'll delete my comment if you like

slhck

@Mokubai No no, by all means, leave it there

Just wanted to add my 2 cents :P

Mokubai

You should add it as a comment :D

Daniel Beck

evening all

Mokubai

Ahhhh! Diamond attack!

Heya @DanielBeck

Daniel Beck

18:16

@Mokubai Diamond attack! ... sounds like a fun little game by Popcap Games.

slhck

lol, evening @DanielBeck

Anyone mad at me if I close this?

0

Q: Cheap way to display a simple web page on screen

I need a simple and cheap way to display a web page with online content on a tv in a restaurant. The smart TVs are quite expensive and have such many functions I don't need (no need for video at all), Thanks in advance...

monitor tv

soandos

@slhck off topic no?

slhck

Clearly, I mean, TV-capable web devices are thrown on the market like crazy these days and everything would become outdated within a few months

Rob

18:32

I'd be so upset that I'd probably cry and curl up in the fetal position for a few hours

ohwait, too late.

slhck

Here, have a cookie

Rob

<3 I'm starving. I skipped lunch by accident, and plan on getting a real cookie from jimmy johns with my sandwich.

slhck

Well I've never been to Jimmy John's, but I'll envy you just for it being food from the U.S. :P

Luke

18:53

@slhck Ya, close it...

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