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2:00 PM
detect any os andchoose from list.
 
Yeah.. lubuntu is starting, thanks..
 
okay, so i heard your windows partition is being shown as raw.
 
It sees also an entry callded Windows Vista, but as I said bbefore, it not sttarts
 
did you backup your partition as bob said?
 
Yeah, but I dunno what does it mean
 
2:01 PM
if the windows partition has a problem, grub disk cant do any black magic. we have to fix it ourselves.
did you execute the dd command he gave or not?
 
@Mahesh Note yet, I just make it starts
 
okay, lets backup things first, and try tools, one by one.
 
@Mahesh I don't.. I dunno how to sttart the pc, I started it just right now that you said to use the usbkey
 
okay. let it boot up.
 
The problem now is: lubunto doesn't see the 60GB partition (the one with the raw filesystem)
How I can backup it?
 
2:04 PM
actually, buddy, lubuntu sees it. it doesn't show. :P
i'll tell you how.
did you log in/
 
Log in? Where?
 
into lubuntu.
and open a terminal.
 
I started it
Ok
Got it
 
now, sudo fdisk -l
 
Done
 
2:06 PM
and double check everything you type when it has a sudo.
jus saying..
now, gimme the output
 
@Mahesh Yeah :P
Mmmh.. ok wait
(I can stay logged in here from two different pc?)
alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for alberto:

Disco /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 byte
255 testine, 63 settori/tracce, 38913 cilindri
Unità = cilindri di 16065 * 512 = 8225280 byte
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Identificativo disco: 0x460b22c3

Dispositivo Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
La partizione 1 non termina al limite del cilindro.
 
i guess yes.. may be. try it.
 
This is the output
 
hi @Gnoupi.
Got some spam to fry?
 
If there is something that you can't understand I will be glad to translate
 
2:09 PM
whoa! wait..
open file browser.
do you see a 60GB file system?
 
Not in the file manager
 
umm... okay. lets backup then.
 
@jokerdino I actually "fixed" one
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Heh, nice work!
 
2:11 PM
The guy has "keyboardbumps" as his website
But at same time, he makes effort to answer other questions
 
I think he at least seems to give one other answer.
 
So, no, not roasting him yet
 
sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/somefile/on/your/data/partition
@unNaturhal ^^
 
@Gnoupi wish all spammers contribute productively ;p
 
now if he rollbacks, or keeps talking about those bumps, then it will probably need to be removed
 
2:12 PM
though that would be oxymoronic.
 
and it takes a lot of time, be patient.
 
@Mahesh Some file on my data partition?...
I don't remember the path of everything
And everything has to be saved...
 
@Mahesh I have "code monkey" by Coulton in my headphones at this moment, and I see you talking. How appropriate
 
@unNaturhal mount your data partition.
 
@Mahesh Mmhh wait..
I'm confused :p
The partition of 60GB, is not called Data
Data is the partition that you can see in the screenshot
 
2:14 PM
@jokerdino help @unNaturhal to backup his /dev/sda2 as a file on his data partition. I'll be back in ten minutes. switching location to a kilometre away.
 
@Mahesh alright but how?
 
3 mins ago, by Mahesh
sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/somefile/on/your/data/partition
 
This latest one, is larger enough to contain the entire partition with windows.. And I have to save all the thinks that are on windows partition (that is 60GB)
 
BRB. @jokerdino get him to mount data partition and execute that dd. it can take an hour to complete.
*it == dd command.
 
@Mahesh fine..
 
2:18 PM
@Mahesh @jokerdino I'm a donk, I know..
 
Or, you know, he can also wait 10 minutes :p
 
@unNaturhal You don't know me fully then..
 
Who is familiar with Android app that makes it easier to call from hidden number? (*67)
 
@Gnoupi Good idea too~
 
@jokerdino I mean, it's a big thing to do. Better not hurry it
 
2:20 PM
@jokerdino I win the onlympic medal in 100m Donking, can you do better?
 
@Boris_yo Voting to close as off-topic
 
@Gnoupi What are you talking about?
 
@unNaturhal o.O
 
@Boris_yo You asked about an android app on the SuperUser chat.
 
@jokerdino xD
 
2:22 PM
@Gnoupi Man, are you high?
 
lol
 
@unNaturhal okay, where are you stuck now?
i don't know why you are dd-ing all of a sudden.
backing up the drive i suppose?
 
@jokerdino I'm trying to understood how dd command works
 
@Boris_yo You're the one who's off-topic, not me.
 
@jokerdino Yes
 
2:23 PM
@Gnoupi I was talking politics and nationalities on SU chat when you walked in your diaper under table.
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@unNaturhal it apparently converts and copies the file. useful to make backup or copy a filesystem
 
@Boris_yo I would have suspended you for that comment, 2 years ago.
 
@jokerdino Ok.. but.. The first value (after if) is the source and the second is the destination, right?
 
:-)
 
@Boris_yo Now on a more serious topic, go answer some questions. 130 questions and 4 answers, what's that?
 
2:25 PM
@Gnoupi Suddenly you appear and tell me what is off-topic? Where've you been?
 
@Boris_yo Unfortunately no one jumped to tell you what is sarcasm
 
@unNaturhal I would think so.
 
@Gnoupi So far you are the only one.
 
This is getting dangerous. Wait till Mahesh comes back.
 
@jokerdino Okok ;P
 
2:26 PM
@jokerdino my point exactly, a wrong argument, and it could be bad :p
 
@Gnoupi @unNaturhal I wouldn't want to be sued because of an erroneous Linux command. That would be nightmarish. :p
Or maybe he can try someone in Ask Ubuntu chat. Someone ought to know stuff.

 Ask Ubuntu General Room

Normally: General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & offic...
 
I can wait ten minutes that @Mahesh will back :)
 
@unNaturhal The problem is, he is too unreliable. I have known him for quite some time ;p
 
@jokerdino LOL
I trust you, but it seems reliable :p
 
If he comes back, good luck to you.
 
2:30 PM
@Boris_yo chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/25/android will probably bring you better answers to your current question
And thanks for the laugh
7 mins ago, by Boris_yo
@Gnoupi I was talking politics and nationalities on SU chat when you walked in your diaper under table.
 
@Gnoupi It won't. Have you been there before me? I don't think so because I am chat user since 04/17/2011. Welcome to SU chat btw.
 
@Boris_yo I was on this chat when it was in beta. But thanks for the welcome!
 
Your stats don't indicate this. @Gnoupi
 
I don't know what's the problem here.
 
Win 8 guys. (cc: @nhinkle)
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2:35 PM
@Sathya Metro? What metro?
 
Hey @Sathya
 
(They dropped the term Metro)
 
apparently stats for chat resetted when it came out of beta, i see
 
@jokerdino I can't put strikesthrough on title. Read the question.
Evening @Gnoupi.
 
@Sathya call me natoob then.
 
2:36 PM
"chat user since 2012-07-26" haha
 
@Sathya Is it true what Gnoupi says?
 
@Boris_yo he's been here way before me.
 
Groupi?
 
@Gnoupi Yea, SU chat came out of beta on 2012-07-26
@Sathya This is conspiracy! How much did Gnoupi pay you?
 
@Boris_yo Hey, Boris:
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2:38 PM
@Boris_yo how about you check MSU and search for his name? :-)
@Gnoupi Hey, how much you paid Jeff again? :P
 
So anyway, like I said, your "diaper" comment made me laugh
 
oh i missed that comment.
 
@jokerdino it's starred now!
 
Whichever one you pinged me.
 
@jokerdino right over there points to starred items
 
2:41 PM
@Gnoupi Not the diaper one. The one you just removed.
Bah, let the removed be removed.
 
@jokerdino it was "He was paying me!" then I censored it for saying too much
 
I guess it was a joke. Hehe, You can now remove it. Thanks for reposting.
 
@Gnoupi I'm taking your diaper back after doing quick research. You should have that link ready when questioned about authority on SU.
 
@Boris_yo That's a very disturbing thing to say
@Boris_yo I don't need to prove my authority
 
@Gnoupi Thanks for showing me though.
 
2:44 PM
@Gnoupi BTW, if you need to buy any exotic items, you can ask Boris for that.
 
@Gnoupi What is so disturbing about it?
@jokerdino I am not in diaper selling business.
 
o.O
 
@Gnoupi When was the last time I posted question?
 
DX.. maybe
 
Khan Academy saves the day ;)
 
2:45 PM
@Boris_yo not sure if that's something to be thankful for. Now seriously, go post some answers. you posted 184 questions on SE, and 5 answers.
 
@Gnoupi I am afraid you ran through my profile long before you started replying to my message o.O
 
@Gnoupi Asking questions isn't about adding value too?
 
@Boris_yo Less. That's also why you receive 5 reputation per upvote on a question, and 10 on an answer.
@Boris_yo Is that your website in your profile?
 
@Gnoupi Maybe asking questions is what I am good at on SU. There are others that will contribute better answers than me.
 
@jokerdino I haven't understood what you meant
 
2:53 PM
@Gnoupi Yes but you should remove it because it is not ready. I am just maintaining it for my future blog.
 
@Gnoupi I am saying you probably did a background check on me as well..
 
@Boris_yo I'm just curious, does it really help sales to have fake 3D software boxes on a website?
 
It was a joke.. went awry.
 
TIL you can drag Youtube's Captions
 
@Boris_yo I'm honestly curious, because I usually see that on most sites which are selling dubious programs (converters and other registry cleaners)
 
2:56 PM
@Gnoupi I am not selling. I had this website's design made years ago for free as a result of buying a hosting package. Links shouldn't be functioning.
 
@jokerdino Nah, I don't do background checks. Only on new accounts which are spammers :P And even, I don't have all the tools now.
@Boris_yo Ok, nevermind my question, then
 
@Gnoupi Moderators are not supposed to have all the tools?
 
@Boris_yo Also, I can't remove it. I'm not a moderator anymore. Can't you tell by the fact you can still post?
 
@Gnoupi Like I said, it was meant to be a joke. A pretty bad apparently.
And, I am a poor joker.
 
@jokerdino Nah, I'm just tired :p
 
2:57 PM
:D
 
@Gnoupi And provided you were moderator, why wouldn't I be able to post.
 
34 mins ago, by Gnoupi
@Boris_yo I would have suspended you for that comment, 2 years ago.
But then again, sarcasm
 
@Gnoupi That's when you were moderator?
 
@jokerdino Obviously there's a curse on this chat for people to get humor
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2:59 PM
@Gnoupi hehe.
I know what you mean.
I have failed to pick up sarcasm so many times in this chat room.
 
@Gnoupi It is way easier to get humor by seeing person you are talking with face-to-face.
 
@Boris_yo Yes. But then again, temporal paradox, you didn't exist then.
 
@Gnoupi Should I go back in time?
 
@Boris_yo do you want to get suspended?
 
@Gnoupi No, I want to take your place back then.
 
3:02 PM
@Boris_yo Then why do you ask?
And more importantly, why am I still continuing this topic
Oh well
puff
 
@Gnoupi There's no need.
 
3:20 PM
@unNaturhal i'm back. sorry for the longwait. had my dinner
 
@Mahesh No problem :)
 
@unNaturhal <told you so>
 
mmmm... dinner.
 
:P
 
anything nice?
 
3:20 PM
@HaydnWVN Batman
 
@jokerdino Ahahah xD
 
okay, so backup done?
 
Nope :(
 
@Mahesh mope
 
@HaydnWVN nah. paranthas with butter.
umm.. whats preventing you?
 
3:21 PM
the scorn faced joker
 
@jokerdino says that was batter to wait for you
 
he couldn't get the dd command to work, wasn't sure about the source or soemthing along those lines
source/destination/blah
 
oh.. okay.
 
@unNaturhal yeah that
 
is your lubuntu running?
 
3:22 PM
Yes
 
@Mahesh butter as of raw butter ?
 
umm.. i dont know. its processed may be..
 
@jokerdino :P
 
:-)
 
@unNaturhal okay. can you access yourdata partition?
 
3:24 PM
@Mahesh Depends on what you mean
If you mean the partition named Data
So yes
 
yup.
open it.
 
If you mean the partition where windows was installed on.. nope..
Opened
(I have also created a direcotory where save the backup)
 
decide a place where to save backup.
ok. good.
now, open terminal.
 
Opened
 
sudo fdisk -l and check for the partition thats nearly 60GB
is it /dev/sda2?
 
3:26 PM
alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for alberto:

Disco /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 byte
255 testine, 63 settori/tracce, 38913 cilindri
Unità = cilindri di 16065 * 512 = 8225280 byte
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Identificativo disco: 0x460b22c3

Dispositivo Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
La partizione 1 non termina al limite del cilindro.
I think yes
And fdisk says that it's filesystem is not raw but NTFS...
 
okay.
 
Another strange thing..
 
yourdata partition is probablymounted inside media.
 
Umh?
Yess
 
@unNaturhal yup, thats the reason i asked ifit was accessible from file manager.
 
3:27 PM
/media/Data
 
sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/media/Data/backupdirectory/backup.img
double check everything before you hit enter.
dd can mess up things very horribly if mis-typed.
 
sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/media/Data/CBackup/backup.img
This will backup the entire partition?
 
yup.
 
Okay
 
and takes hell lot oftime.
 
3:31 PM
Hell lotta time that you can go to college and come back with a degree and it will still go on~
 
It asked the password and now is still
@jokerdino Oh god...
 
once its done, you'll have full freedom to mess with things, knowing thatits all backed up.
@unNaturhal ok, dont touch it fora while.
as in.. 60GB at 1 mbps takes??
take it as an estimate.
:P
 
@unNaturhal :-)
 
60000MB at 1 MBps... = 60000 seconds = 1000 minutes = a fucking so much hour O_O
16 hours...
 
jus kidding.. it runs at 3 mbps on my system at times..
 
3:34 PM
Wait, I open the window and throw myself..
Eh eh..
It means 16/3 hours..
 
if you wanta full backup, rock solid,letit run
 
= 5 hours..
 
thatsthe best fool proof way i know of.
 
Yeah, I let it run
 
:|
 
3:35 PM
What limits the speed? I'd have thought DD from one partition dumping to a file on the same disk should be pretty quick?
 
How I can see the percentage progress and when it ends?
 
DD/dd
 
@HaydnWVN it depends, solely on disk r/wspeed.
plus the fact that it runs in chunks of 512kb.
@unNaturhal send a USR1 signal to that process.
it prints progress and continues.
 
@Mahesh Umh?
How?
 
one sec.
 
3:38 PM
Ye;)
 
open another terminal and ps-afrom it.
* ps -a
and note the pid of dd.
 
berto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ ps -a
  PID TTY          TIME CMD
 1779 pts/0    00:02:10 dd
 1814 pts/1    00:00:00 ps
alberto@alberto-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$
 
kill -USR1 1779
add a sudo before that.
 
Kill? o.o
 
yup. it sends a signal.
doesn't kill as in murder.
default is the murder action. :P
 
3:41 PM
xD
Nothing happened
 
look at the terminal in which dd is running.
it will havethe output.
 
7529153+0 record dentro
7529152+0 record fuori
3854925824 byte (3,9 GB) copiati, 637,587 s, 6,0 MB/s
Oh _
6MB/s
I love this number!
 
:D
only coz i told you itss normal speed. :P
 
do you see the destination file and it's size growing? Or is that me being too hopeful? ;)
 
@Mahesh It's better to understimate, so it can only go better xD
@HaydnWVN Yes, but not in real time
You have to refresh di directory :P
(6.2GB.. it should be about 1%)
No wait...
10%!
10% in 5 minutes seems really faster!
 
3:52 PM
Nice!
 
I'm wiping old 2.5" laptop IDE drives... 20/40/60GB (boot & nuke 3 at a time) and it reads 52 hours remaining... :'(
 
@HaydnWVN I think that linux is reasonably faster than windows.. On windows the backup that I'm doung should take some years
The speed is decreasing... ._.
 
I prefer doing disk/disk or interface/interface but that's just me
 
@HaydnWVN wait.. how areyou wiping them?
 
4:06 PM
dariks boot & nuke
(from hiren)
 
I was about to suggest that! :D
 
these are old drives, possibly with bad sectors so i'm hardly surprised :)
 
all's well then..
 
i'm actually doing it from within gparted - i run a drive health first to determine if they can even handle wipe attempts lol
i'll still remove the platters, scratch them and put them on my shelf, ditching the rest of the drive.
can never be too careful!
and storing 20+ platters is easier than the headache of data theft... Or more importantly - the loss of sleep from sending them off site to be disposed :D
and on that note - hometime
 
 
4:11 PM
@HaydnWVN totally agreed.
 
Mmmmh.. Why the speed is decreasing with time?
 
melting them is a good option too..
 
goodluck unNaturhal and kudos to @Mahesh and @Bob for helping :)
 
@unNaturhal everytime you send a USR1, it stops what its doing, spits output, then starts again..
so its better not to nag it too often..
 
@Mahesh Oh.. so I'm breaking it's ball xD
 
4:12 PM
and speed 'may' decrease with time.
 
@HaydnWVN Thanks :D
 
so its better not to nag it too often..
 
Ok, I will see from the directory :p
 
:P
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh my connection!! its horrible
 
Nearly 20%
@Mahesh LOL
Mine too, I understand u.u
 
4:20 PM
@HaydnWVN :)
 
Rob
4:43 PM
PROCESSING! PROCESSING!
Thanks outlook, didn't want to check my work email anyway.
 
4:56 PM
@Rob Outlook fails you to check work email? What would your boss say?
 
Rob
5:06 PM
I had to kill it and restart it, it was busy PROCESSING away
:(
 
@Rob I know Hotmail does that, but Outlook.com?
@Gnoupi Sorry If I offended you. My foreign jokes can be unclear at times...
@Mahesh Manesh? Your name is not Manish? What is wrong with all connections today?
@Rob Do you know why many people today here complain about slow internet connection? Am I missing news?
 
5:29 PM
@nhinkle oh I wouldn't say my ideapad is inferior at all. Its just built for a different purpose. Thinkpads are definitely more workstation type laptops. The Ideapad is more consumer oriented, but its got gaming chips for graphics, as opposed to Quadro/workstation type ones on a thinkpad. Still built really well, Lenovo is solid.
 
Jeeze, the whole day on the road. I come home to finally read some SU and the phone starts ringing off the hook.
 
Rob
@Boris_yo I mean outlook client on my computer, not outlook.com
 
Wha? Low quality is telling me there are no posts for me to review but that there are 1.6k awaiting review... :'(
 
5:58 PM
@Boris_yo nope. its Mahesh
 
6:12 PM
@Mokubai By the way, calling a WiFi hotspot via mobile phone "tethering" isn't uncommon in Germany or Austria
 
Fair enough, I've never heard it called that outside of america, and his surprise and offense at someone using the "hotspot" term irked me.
@slhck I'll delete my comment if you like
 
@Mokubai No no, by all means, leave it there
Just wanted to add my 2 cents :P
 
You should add it as a comment :D
 
evening all
 
Ahhhh! Diamond attack!
Heya @DanielBeck
 
6:16 PM
@Mokubai Diamond attack! ... sounds like a fun little game by Popcap Games.
 
lol, evening @DanielBeck
Anyone mad at me if I close this?
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Q: Cheap way to display a simple web page on screen

user150912I need a simple and cheap way to display a web page with online content on a tv in a restaurant. The smart TVs are quite expensive and have such many functions I don't need (no need for video at all), Thanks in advance...

 
@slhck off topic no?
 
Clearly, I mean, TV-capable web devices are thrown on the market like crazy these days and everything would become outdated within a few months
 
Rob
6:32 PM
I'd be so upset that I'd probably cry and curl up in the fetal position for a few hours
ohwait, too late.
 
Here, have a cookie
 
Rob
<3 I'm starving. I skipped lunch by accident, and plan on getting a real cookie from jimmy johns with my sandwich.
 
Well I've never been to Jimmy John's, but I'll envy you just for it being food from the U.S. :P
 
6:53 PM
@slhck Ya, close it...
 

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