Root Access

Michael Hampton

00:03

Do I get a badge for having voted for all three winners?

soandos

@MichaelHampton nope

HackToHell

yay 2k rep finally and congrats new mods ;)

Paul

00:38

So will we break the 4K Low Qualities milestone today (for varying values of "today" given timezones)?

@soandos Just found one of yours in LQ: superuser.com/questions/174350/…

7 days have passed since that comment - how long before we give up and recommend deletion?

soandos

@Paul, I don't see it

Paul

@soandos Sorry it was @slhck :)

soandos

@Paul lol

Paul

Easy to get confused with both names beginning with 's'

;)

Journeyman Geek

00:55

2 answers. same person, and one question was split from another on my request >_>

hm, I need to work out how to get my computer to reboot itself every night.

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, scheduled task?

Journeyman Geek

probably

I actually should reformat the system but its shared :/

gaming performance sucks after its been running a day

and it takes about 5-10 minutes to get usable after i boot it, and none of the usual suspects can find out why

Paul

@JourneymanGeek This was one of the reasons I switched to linux primarily. It enabled me to keep a clean, minimal Windows install that I only boot to for games, and then spend the rest of the time in linux (helps avoid playing games when I should be working also) - so I haven't had to do a Windows rebuild for a while

Then I also have a Windows VM running on a server for those occasions where I cannot avoid Windows for work stuff

(so rdp from linux)

Gareth

01:14

Big congrats to @slhck @DanielBeck @OliverSalzburg

soandos

01:28

@KronoS you around?

KronoS

@soandos yessiree... what's up?

soandos

Mind if I ask you a c# question?

in fake programmers

KronoS

02:01

I'm loving the new mods

Journeyman Geek

03:00

@Paul: a good chunk of the issues i have is that its a install thats been used by multiple people since 07 ;p

Paul

Looks like someone has done a search for "Best ..." and issued non-constructive vtcs for them all

Paul

03:20

@slhck For a bunch of low quality answers, you have left a comment asking for the answer to be expanded. I realise we have a meta in play to work out a formal way to deal with these, but what is the action for now? These will bubble up in the queue for others, and we can 'not sure' them until some time has passed, but then what - vote for deletion?

Luke

@Paul meta.superuser.com/questions/5302/low-quality-review-queue

Paul

@Luke that was the meta I was referring to

Luke

Ahh OK :)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek As long as they don't have admin permissions :P

Paul

Gotta leave the review queue for a while. It makes me sad.

Luke

03:35

Anyone see the new Internet Explorer 9 commercial? Just came up... It's weird

soandos

@Luke the more beautiful web one?

Luke

Ya...

soandos

I never got that either

Luke

Complete with the comic book thing?

soandos

Yeah

Paul

03:39

IE9: "Don't accept standards being forced upon you, we will render the web the way it should be!"

2

Luke

@Paul Starred for truth

soandos

What are the odds of getting these two MD5 values for data that should be identical:

607991647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a
613121647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a

Paul

@soandos Wow

Bob

@soandos Wait, should be? :P

Paul

Should be?

Luke

03:42

Only 2 bytes off...

Paul

@Bob jinx

soandos

@Bob, I am threading something, and its not working

Paul

If the data is different even by one byte the md5 should be dramatically different

soandos

so, to test if all is working well, I serialize the data, then take an MD5. The hashes match, all is good. If not, race condition still exists

Bob

@soandos Ah. You just introduced me to Parallel.For! :P

soandos

03:43

@Bob that is what I am using

A third hash:

Bob

@soandos I know, I was reading the fake programmers' room

soandos

615981647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a

Bob

o.O

soandos

Now, I know MD5 is not considered cryptographically secure, but this is NUTS!!!

Paul

Must be a bug

Bob

03:44

You sure the MD5 function is working properly? :P

Luke

And it's always the same 2 bytes!

soandos

@Bob, ripped it right of an SO answer ;)

@Luke I know, this is too wierd

going for hash number 4 now

Paul

Isn't there an MD5 standard library function in c#?

soandos

@Paul using it

Paul

Weird

Bob

03:45

@Paul Maybe his installation of .NET is broken?

I'm more willing to believe that than so many hashes so close

soandos

@Bob, possible, but SO unlikely

626411647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a

Paul

Yeah, it is not possible that they are MD5s of either identical or similar data

Bob

Ok. I'm quite certain something is broken now.

Paul

I would suggest that the md5 is not working correctly but only updating the first few bytes of the variable

Bob

Have you tried some random string with that hash function, and verifying it with an external tool?

soandos

03:47

nope

Paul

So the trailing bytes are from previous runs

Bob

Try hashing "hello world" or something? :P

soandos

but I have gotten very different hashes (with different data)

Bob

...

Paul

Or put the text into an online md5 hasher and see what the real md5 is

Bob

03:47

@Paul But ignoring the first?

soandos

       `FileStream file = new FileStream(fileName, FileMode.Open, FileAccess.Read);
        MD5 md5 = new MD5CryptoServiceProvider();
        byte[] retVal = md5.ComputeHash(file);`

Bob

@Paul I assume the data @soandos wants to hash is too long to easily copy/paste... perhaps not, but meh

soandos

@Bob, its about 101MB

Paul

Lets say that $md5 = "626411647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a", then the next md5 is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but doesn't copy into the $md5 correctly so we end up with aaaaaa647cf4231f2af05b934ea791024625a

Bob

@Paul But the first character is the same?

soandos

03:50

Getting a seperate MD5 tool

Paul

I dunno - this is speculation

Luke

Battery dying, so I'm off for the night. TTYAL

Bob

@Luke cya

Paul

Night @Luke

soandos

@Luke night

What is a good tool to do this? Fastsum is slow...

Seem to be getting a slightly different hash from another program

1647CF4231F2AF05B934EA791024625A

Bob

03:58

How are you converting it for output?

I mean, from the byte array

soandos

in C#?

Bob

...we should probably move to the FP room :P

Paul

Yeah... I reckon it must be a bug futher along, not in the md5 routine itself

Sathya

04:23

morning

KronoS

@Sathya mornin

Bob

@Sathya hello (and good afternoon)

Sathya

hey @Kro & @Bob

KronoS

04:39

6

Q: Best way to organize lots and lots of media files?

I have lots and lots of media files. About 6TB spanned across 10 physical hard drives on a personal file server. Security is not a major issue, but is being handled via other means. These files consist of video, audio, documents, and software/installers/ISOs/etc. By the purest of coincidences, ...

Hmmm... none of those are really good solutions

KronoS

05:07

31000 and counting... I've got way too much music

Sathya

@KronoS share you library. (as in the artists & tracks, not the songs themselves)

KronoS

@Sathya you mean export the song list?

Sathya

@KronoS yes..

there should be a easier way to share your music collection. app idea

KronoS

@Sathya dropbox.com/s/a7tq8fbn4v2f7m1/songlist.htm

Bob

@KronoS This file is too large to preview.

That says it all.

KronoS

05:13

@Bob you should be able to download

it came out to be only 25000 songs afterall

Bob

@KronoS I'm just saying it's a good indicator of how large the list is :P

8.8MB list... holy ...

KronoS

@Bob oh got it :)

Bob

You have a very wide collection :)

KronoS

@Bob yes.. that is so true...

Sathya

@KronoS blocked at work, will have to check later..

Journeyman Geek

05:28

@Bob wierdly enough, yes.

Sathya

05:56

1

Q: What will we do to promote Super User when Windows 8 is released?

Historically, new Windows OS releases result in a huge traffic increase for sites that have lots of Windows content. We saw it for Super User when Windows 7 was released, and Lowell at How-to-Geek said it doubled and tripled his site traffic. Which brings me to... So -- how is Super User plann...

discussion featured site-promotion

Bob

hm

I really need to get around to trying one of the previews

KronoS

06:15

@Bob yes you do!

Journeyman Geek

lol

as do i

Paul

Me too (oblig)

KronoS

shakes his head

Journeyman Geek

lol

I had the CP for a bit. Been putting off the RP

there's a good chance the next system might run it though. I think i can get over my annoyance at the tabletified interface

soandos

I've been on the RP full time for a week now

pretty happy with it

Paul

06:25

@Sathya The "What will we do with the preview tag" meta doesn't yet have an answer. I am wondering if we can identify questions that have a high likelihood of being relevant to the released version and tag those as 'not preview'.

Journeyman Geek

@Paul: thats what i think is the sensible way to do it

Sathya

@Paul we should start doing that.

I felt @Nhinkle's comment really should be the answer

Paul

@JourneymanGeek because then we can have a series of answers to questions ready to go

Journeyman Geek

As things were we had a lot of win 7 preview questions that needed clearing, which was why i suggested the preview tags

Sathya

I've been thinking/worrying about this too. Right now I'm thinking maybe we should remove the synonym, but not retag everything. Questions and answers can be updated to apply to the final release as necessary, and retagged as such. — nhinkle Jul 12 at 17:00

Paul

06:27

@Sathya and if that activity was taking place with existing questions, we could identify the highest quality ones and do a bit of a tweet etc campain to build up search engine presence

@Sathya Yeah

nhinkle

Whenever I get my damn laptop back from HP, I'll be installing the release preview. Been running it on my desktop for a couple weeks now, but I don't use my desktop as much.

Paul

Right now if you do a "windows 8 questions" google search, SO is high, but SU isn't there. I realise that is an artificial search but still.

Journeyman Geek

lol

... actually, i could run it on a VM, and full screen it

Its not like i'm playing games on either of my personal systems...

headesks

next week tho, i haz exams.

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek if you want to really experience it in full though, you need to run it natively.

Half the exciting features in Windows 8 relate to improved performance, better battery life, smoother graphics, etc. None of which you get in a VM.

KronoS

Win 8 boots up SO fast now

nhinkle

06:33

does anyone have any idea whether Windows 8 RTM will be available through MSDNAA at the same time as the regular (non-academic) MSDN release?

Journeyman Geek

lol. sadly the only person i can ask is in austalia

@nhinkle: Well, new system will be up in roughly end august. I can probably run windows 8 on that

MAYBE if i like it enough, will try it on the lappy, which i need to wipe and install windows 7 64 bit anyway

Bob

@Paul "windows 7 questions" doesn't have SU on the first two pages. Heck, Apple's Boot Camp support is on the first page

Paul

@JourneymanGeek Why is it sad to ask people in Australia? Are we that disappointing?

Bob

@nhinkle Which is why I haven't bothered installing it yet

I don't really have a spare testing system right now, and the fact Win8's previews expire and can't be upgraded to release means I can't really risk trying it.

nhinkle

@bob word has it you can upgrade to the final release from the release preview

jokerdino

06:39

@jokerdino is a sociopath xD http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/23/twitter-psychopaths

Tweeted by hacktohell on July 24, 2012 at 1:28 PM

heh, better than being a psychopath ;p

Bob

@nhinkle o.O

Paul

For those of you who have been tinkering with W8, do you have a sense of what are going to be common questions? I am thinking if we have common questions already answered, we could start promoting those.

nhinkle

Someone mentioned that. I don't know who.

Bob

Might have to do some more research on that. But how much would it cost? That's another factor.

nhinkle

@Bob $40 upgrade

@Paul I helped with a couple "what's the diff between the different kinds" sorts of things. Part of the problem is that a lot of things don't run on RT, so that's a big question

jokerdino

06:40

@Bob yeah you pay and upgrade.

nhinkle

might be back later

Sathya

@Paul Q#1: Will my Win 7 drivers work?

(ans: I dunno. I've just installed W8. Booted once, heh)

jokerdino

oh wait, i forgot to check the results

Paul

@Sathya I am voting to close your chat message as not constructive

Sathya

Bob

06:42

@nhinkle Isn't that from Win7?

@Paul I'm expecting questions about the start menu :P

Paul

@Sathya It is a good point of course, lots of the common questions people will have would ordinarily be considered not-constructive for SU

Sathya

@Paul sure, that's why I pointed that out. I'm pretty sure that's going to be asked few times at least

Paul

Q#2: How can I make Windows 8 look and behave exactly like Windows 7 (Q#3: .. Windows XP)

(because for some reason a lot of early adopters seem to also be change resistant, like a form of masochism)

jokerdino

Flash and browsers?

Sathya

Q4: Can system always boot to desktop mode

q5: bring back start button

@jokerdino wdym

Journeyman Geek

06:50

XD

@Paul: Funny thing is i made win 7 XP like at first. then i got used to how it was

hmm. 2 dollar headphones arn't too bad o0

jokerdino

@Sathya Does flash work other browsers or what? I heard flash was gonna be baked into IE.

nhinkle

@Bob they're doing it for windows 8

Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $39.99

Journeyman Geek

@nhinkle: which is a smart move

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek indeed

Journeyman Geek

MS is one of the few companies that's quite literally competing with itself.

Bob

06:55

@JourneymanGeek That's news to me

Every set of $2 headphones I've bought here were horrible

Oddly enough, a fake iPhone headset for the equivalent of $3 (in China) is actually pretty good...

jokerdino

:D

Sathya

@jokerdino pretty sure it works..

jokerdino

@Sathya alright.

Bob

@nhinkle I meant, upgrade from Win8 preview to RTM... that blog only seems to mention Win7 to Win8...

nhinkle

@Bob I've heard about that somewhere else but can't recall the source

Journeyman Geek

06:59

@Bob: Got it off daiso. Its sounding almost decent, just a little base shy

(Japanese store, local varient sells everything for 2 dollars)

more importantly, they're comfy

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

needs a pair to throw in his bag, and use with crappy sources anyway

jokerdino

08:21

hi @Ninefingers

Ninefingers

@jokerdino Morning, evening, afternoon or whatever time of day it is where you are :)

jokerdino

Evening. :-)

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino @hacktohell : I'll be tossing questions that need editing, but i can't be arsed into the new QNLT room chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/4231/superuser-qnlt

jokerdino

never mind.

Journeyman Geek

;p;

I am coming a cross low quality answers from users with more rep than myself ;p

Bob

08:29

@JourneymanGeek Uh.. how many users is that? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

just a couple

Bob

5

hmm

Journeyman Geek

at the moment? 5. I just snarky commented number 1 ;p

Bob

hmm

I disagree. The answer solves no ones problem. — Nifle 12 mins ago

I know the FAQ recommends asking questions based on actual problems that you face

jokerdino

08:32

hmm superuser.com/questions/168740/… can't find the wiki page.

Bob

But... is that heavily enforced?

There's a whole lot of (quite good) questions dealing more with theoretical problems and just plain curious questions, some with very good answers

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: yes and no, really depends on the mood of the crowd

Bob

:P

needs a meta question

Actually, most of those not-quite-fitting questions end up on the blog

Journeyman Geek

lol

actually i need to poke mods about something

Bob

08:47

Eh, conflicting opinions!

6

Q: Why was the question "Why are there 8 bits per byte?" closed?

TL;DR: I'm looking for opinions on why this question should be open or closed. Answer: I now understand why it has been closed: It is not a real problem because it has no practical use. Why are there 8 bits per byte? Why did such a valid and interesting question got closed? The user is...

discussion support closed-questions close-reasons reopen-request

Quite a few people seem to support amending the FAQ, and quite a few don't. Gah...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: bigger point. You can use the system to reopen a question, and meta to facilitate it

Bob

09:00

@JourneymanGeek Hm?

Journeyman Geek

09:13

I mean to something being closed, not closed ;p

whoot

new shiny gold badge :)

superuser.com/badges/121/marshal?userid=10165 :)

jokerdino

yay

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Hmwha?

that's what I did

I think the question is useful, but it doesn't fully follow the FAQ, so... bleh. There's a chance a mod will come along and nuke it, anyway.

@JourneymanGeek nice :P

I'm a third of the way there

yay

jokerdino

nice. i am on my way to getting deputy soon-ish

Daniel Beck

09:30

good morning everyone

jokerdino

hi

wah. Blue name already :-)

Bob

@DanielBeck morning/evening, blue diamond guy

:)

jokerdino

0

A: ubuntu 9.10 screen flickering problem on Thinkpad R31 with Intel 83830 Graphics

You need to run mousepad as root, using something like "sudo mousepad" in a command prompt.

Hmm wtf?

Bob

@jokerdino what?

jokerdino

you mean you run mousepad as root? o.O

Bob

09:33

What is mousepad?

jokerdino

normal mouse pad.

Hello!?

hold on.

Bob

ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-925686.html

Text editor?

jokerdino

wut.

mysterious text editors that i never heard of before

Bob

Xfce

Xfce (pronounced as four individual letters) is a free software desktop environment for Unix and Unix-like platforms, such as Linux, Solaris, and BSD. It aims to be fast and lightweight, while still being visually appealing and easy to use. It consists of separately packaged components that together provide the full functionality of the desktop environment, but which can be selected in subsets to create the user's preferred personal working environment. Xfce is mainly used for its ability to run a modern desktop environment on relatively modest hardware. Xfce is included as one of the g...

jokerdino

<blah>

Bob

09:35

Still, don't see how that answer relates to the question...

wow

I just disabled Flash's "protected mode"

every Flash applet is several times more responsive :|

The plugin container memory usage has also dropped by 20%

:\

Bob

10:21

random bumper sticker

Sathya

@jokerdino yo

Paul

11:23

@JourneymanGeek I actually spent lot of time trying to get XP to look like something other than XP - trying different shells. W7 was a bit of a relief.

Journeyman Geek

11:38

plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106187684082000485043/albums/… something i was messing with, storing spare screws in a spare drive sled ;p

@Paul: oh, little stuff like having non grouped windows and labels at first, then slowly easing myself into the proper win7 way of doing things

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm still going Vista style

small icon, group when full, labels visible... :D

2

Ivo Flipse

11:52

@Bob I agree we could be more clear about it, but you know the outrage when mods moderate popular stuff

Bob

lol

Ivo Flipse

Kittens have been killed for less

Bob

true

but then the popular stuff gets a free pass, which is kinda inconsistent

user481913

can someone please answer this for me ... superuser.com/questions/453325/…

Ivo Flipse

What usually happens is we let the storm blow over, then closed behind everyone's back and hope nobody notices whistles

kinokijuf

11:54

@user481913 No. Just no.

Paul

@JourneymanGeek Oooh, one of yours in LQ :) superuser.com/questions/310734/…

@user481913 Thanks for the notification

kinokijuf

@Paul I see lots of JG’s posts in LQ.

Ivo Flipse

@user481913 Do you like Intel? Go with Intel. Don't like Intel? Go with AMD

kinokijuf

@IvoFlipse I don’t like Intel because they support ACTA.

user481913

@IvoFlipse - what's better in performance ?

Paul

11:56

@user481913 I would go with the one that has the nicest colour

2

user481913

please no sarcasm...

kinokijuf

@user481913 Go for AMD.

user481913

just ned a quick serious answer...

Ivo Flipse

@user481913 I didn't say performance, I only said: pick whichever company you like best

Paul

@user481913 Shape is important to me too

Ivo Flipse

11:57

if the difference is so small you can't tell right away, it doesn't matter

You'll never use your CPU at full power, ever

If you do, you wouldn't be nitpicking or you knew what you needed

user481913

@IvoFlipse - if i knew the difference i won't need you ppl :)

Ivo Flipse

@user481913 I saying you don't need us

Bob

@IvoFlipse Whoops! I've brought attention to them... :\

kinokijuf

Go for AMD. Because they are not Intel.

Ivo Flipse

@Bob Don't worry, I do think a lot of them should be allowed, we just need a way to make them not attract 30+ answers

Bob

11:59

In any case, there's enough of that type of question that removing them all could make this seem like yet another help forum :P

Ivo Flipse

The easy way is to slam everyone who doesn't write a whole damned Wikipedia article about it

user481913

@kinokijuf not a particularly good reason..

Journeyman Geek

@Paul:link me and i'll fix em if i can

Ivo Flipse

@user481913 There's no good reason

Bob

One of our goals is to build up a nice set of canonical answers to turn to anyway

Journeyman Geek

12:00

@Paul: I can't fix that, sadly

Paul

@JourneymanGeek No, not enough info in the original question

Journeyman Geek

@kinokijuf: Link em, if I can fix em, i will. I won't even get mad

;p

Bob

@user481913 You do have to make your own choice. You can take a look at some benchmarks, though they aren't exactly accurate with real world use. You might also want to consider price.

Paul

@JourneymanGeek I am inclined to vtc the original question but I don't have close votes (and the op is gone by the look of it) - on the other hand, it would be a cool question to have been able to answer (my jabber server is set to 100 offline messages). On the other hand the user is probably a user not the server admin.

Bob

That particular AMD processor has a surprisingly low result... Once again, these are not accurate in real world use.

jokerdino

12:04

@Sathya lol does it mean you run the mousepad as root? :p

Paul

@user481913 Here is what to do. Say "heads AMD, tails Intel", then flip a coin. Just before the coin lands, you will hope it will land a particular way. Choose the one you hoped for.

2

Bob

@IvoFlipse Any highly voted question is going to get a lot of exposure and a lot of answers, though. As you said, whether a question is from curiosity or a real problem doesn't determine the possibility of a single complete technical answer, though I admit real problems are more likely to get such answers.

There's also the problem with these questions often not being reasonably scoped..

user481913

Thanks a lot Bob , what's wrong with you people ..? excuse me but your knowledge is useless if you have super high egos and cannot help someone with a simple question.. i just noticed i'm probbaly in the wrong room.... not sure but i just clikcedon the chat link in the comments to the question...

jokerdino

bye

user481913

edit --- not you Bob i mean the other ppl here...

Ivo Flipse

12:06

@user481913 Calling people out is not the way to get a good response

Bob

@Paul That's if you're deciding between brands ;)

If you're deciding between specific CPUs, they are somewhat comparable

@user481913 Please don't be rude.

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse i was wondering what word ends in not..

Ivo Flipse

@Bob Probably the question should be edited, such that the general blabla remains, but at the end there's a more specific question

@jokerdino nothing

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse yeah. later figured it was a formatting issue.

just woke up; grr

jokerdino

12:20

oops. wait. did i post the election results on the wrong thread or what?

Paul

12:32

Woohoo I did it

I made my first ever bitcoin

Crap, I have only made 0.99636688 of a bitcoin, I got .005 from elsewhere. False alarm

jokerdino

o.O

wullxz

how long did it take you to get an almost bitcoin, paul?

HackToHell

lol someone does not like me, I am getting downvotes on really old questions xD

jokerdino

o.O

HackToHell

And one of the questions is kinda dumb ;p

So is copying and posting stuff from msdn allowed, I am editing a link only answer and adding more info to it as directed by @JourneymanGeek

Paul

13:06

@wullxz About two weeks :)

wullxz

lol, isn't worth it, is it?

Paul

@wullxz With an nvidia GPU, and nvidia is not at all good at bitcoin math (compared to amd gpus)

@wullxz But my goal is simply to make one, so thats nearly done

HackToHell

13:41

Two weeks with a GPU for a coin ? that sucks

news.yahoo.com/brain-sees-men-whole-women-parts-232255413.html

Paul

14:06

@HackToHell it would take a couple of days with a high-end AMD gpu I reckon

There are far more efficient ways to make bitcoins, I am just fooling around

HackToHell

iirc, making bitcoins is not profitable, you will end up spending more on power

wullxz

14:24

I read that the frequence of newly generated bitcoins decreases with time. that means: it once WAS profitable but it's no more.

HackToHell

SE seriously needs a site for shopping recommendations.

Too many shopping questions are getting closed

kinokijuf

@DanielBeck are you there?

Daniel Beck

@kinokijuf Yes

kinokijuf

@DanielBeck then explain this

…

HackToHell

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Q: How can I always run the command prompt as administrator?

As a developer, I often have the need to open a command prompt for various purposes. For example, I use iisreset to restart my local web server. I typically open the command window in one of two ways: Press the Windows key, type "cmd" and press "Enter" While in Explorer, hold shift and right c...

windows-7 command-line permissions

Daniel Beck

14:34

@kinokijuf I don't see anything that needs explaining.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell Well, the idea is you need to paraphrase it, its a bit of a pain in the rear

kinokijuf

@DanielBeck what do you think iglvzx should suggest to me?

Journeyman Geek

also, shopping questions don't stay relevant so don't work well with the Q&A format

HackToHell

A different approach helps, SE is different from other sites, an unique shopping site can be created.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: Its one of the few things that would work better as a traditional forum IMO

Daniel Beck

14:40

@kinokijuf Posting the suggested prank question. Note that my suggestion was a joke and it was made clear by others afterwards that you posting that wouldn't be appreciated.

kinokijuf

@DanielBeck unfortunately, i’m not a native english speaker

and did not quite understand what iglvzx wanted me to ask

HackToHell

lol

my cat kissing ash ;p

except both seem to be sleeping

Simon Sheehan

14:56

Well, i must say - getting your wisdom teeth removed SUCKS.

HackToHell

Mine's still growing and it occasionally hurts like hell.

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