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@SimonSheehan, I am due to get mine removed soon
@soandos it isnt a good experience :/
@SimonSheehan, I was told that some people are fine the next day
and others take a week to recover
I really really want to be in that first group
@soandos Well I improved a LOT since yesterday.
@SimonSheehan good to hear
15:14
Just cheeks are very swollen up right now
And i have a bit of a black eye
@SimonSheehan how did that happen?
hmm i never had such experience.
@soandos I'm not sure. I was knocked out the entire time so who knows.
@SimonSheehan still...
@jokerdino, you won't need it, or just not yet?
@soandos It's not bad, just a little bit. I'm more weirded out by the swelling.
Which makes me look like the godfather
15:16
@jokerdino it does not grow for some
@soandos Don't think I had a wisdom tooth.
@HackToHell yeah
lol, I have to set an appointment for the surgery some time next week
People who have enough natural wisdom probably don't need 'em. :p
15:16
:P
You are a highly evolved prehistoric dino :D
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Thanks.
@HackToHell heh that I approve of. :p
15:39
@SimonSheehan @HackToHell @soandos I never got 'em
23 mins ago, by jokerdino
People who have enough natural wisdom probably don't need 'em. :p
@Sathya lucky you
okay, may be not funny enough.
@jokerdino I missed that, apparently
@Sathya You sure you don't have the wisdom tooth? I strongly suspect otherwise.
15:53
Windows 8 release date is end of October? Shouldn't it have been July?
I don't remember it being July.
@DanielBeck I don't think so
Contrary to popular belief, people with Wisdom teeth haz moar intelligence ;p
You planning on getting mountain lion?
And I got to sleep now.
@HackToHell Oh yeah? :P
goes zzz.
15:54
good night and lucid dreams @jokerdino
16:09
@soandos Currently downloading. They're fixing a bunch of things they broke with Lion, e.g. "Save as"/"Duplicate", Auto-Save, the Finder sidebar, full screen mode per screen, etc.
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Q: Require registration to post questions (and answers)

DennisPosting without registration has a lot of disadvantages: Every once in a while, an unregistered user loses his account cookie after posting a question. This prevents him from editing his question, commenting on existing answers or accepting an answer. The result are abandoned questions, sugges...

@sathya area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/40927/… this needs 19 questions with a score of 10 or more
Can you do some promotion ?
can you stick to a edit >_>
got 5 bing s
isn't there significant overlap with Crypto & IT Sec?
oops edit spammed sathya ;p
IT sec has strict rules abt exploits
> This site is not intended to be a resource for Black Hats, or malicious hackers. While we understand discussion of exploits may require examples, if the question looks too much like a request for attack tools or mechanisms to spread a virus, it may be moderated.
So no attack tools :(
16:40
@Sathya how about replying with your opinion <_< watever it might be ??
@HackToHell in my (limited) experience most hacking jobs are very detail oriented and long. Not really suited to SE (I don't think)
@HackToHell tbh I dn't see it going through long
@soandos You do have a point, let's see how it turns out to be.
@sathya It might be beaten down cause of it's grey hat nature. Anyway, SE needs a site for malware analysis, i need help ;p
@HackToHell you did not learn this in school?
@soandos school o_0 , they are currently teaching me how to program in C++ ;p
16:52
@HackToHell you don't have any architecture classes where you have to learn how to overflow a buffer, break stacks, etc?
@soandos we wish
thats surprising...
It was a major focus of my CS 220 class
@soandos nope, I am in high school not in college
@HackToHell, ah, got it
ANd I bet colleges do not teach that, so they @Sathya ?
16:54
college education, in most colleges in India is laughable.
@HackToHell mine does...
(the buffbomb lab)
you get to work on 90's compilers, asked to mug up programs, spit it out during exams. heaven help if you write one line differently
and the result is the crapfest you see on Stack Overflow
@Sathya never had to do that...
Oh boy, I got elected :D
I guess I am lucky
@OliverSalzburg, yup :)
16:56
oh look, the third guy is here
@Sathya ICSE and CBSE are somewhat different, except now I have changed syllabus and this one needs mug mode
And for the first time in my life I have got 50 p.c in computer :/
@Luke You'd have to send me the link again :)
@OliverSalzburg And you removed the link to [dirty dirty] blog name ;p
@OliverSalzburg join TL
@HackToHell I did?
@Sathya What's TL?
17:00
@OliverSalzburg send you an invite
I was away for 2 days, still reading up on my notifications
17:23
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Q: How many "drive by" viruses were discovered in the last couple of years?

Startup1I mean those that infect by only viewing a website or clicking a link. Not those that you have to click "Download" in the Windows dialog. I want to know how important are virus definition updates in anti-virus software.

Lol @Synatech
@OliverSalzburg congrats! didn't realize you were gone for some time
@KronoS Yeah, I was gone yesterday and today. Thanks :) I'll try to do a good job
@HackToHell Oh, I removed that a while ago. I wanted to remove it before it becomes an issue ;P
@Luke What a piece of work...
@Luke Did you read this already? smtp25.blogspot.de/2011/11/…
17:40
Woo! My second accept on Webapps!
My only answers there are from migrations ^_^
18:03
So, how are our new mods doing @OliverSalzburg @slhck @DanielBeck? Been hazed by @IvoFlipse and @Sathya yet?
@Mokubai I got loads of stuff to read, that's for sure :P
I can imagine, there's a lot of paperwork in that sort of thing...
Well, I also need to read our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy
Which are longer than anticipated :D
Then there's quite a bit of "how to" to read as well
Grats btw. Hope you have fun as a mod.
@Mokubai the fun ends actually :P
@OliverSalzburg ps you haven't accepted Mod EULA
18:09
BWUHAHAHA as a "normal" user I can still run amok!
@OliverSalzburg You on the other hand have to be "responsible" ^_^
Who am I kidding, I don't know how to run amok :(
What is a "mok" anyway?
@Mokubai there, there now :P
@OliverSalzburg There is?
You got rid of your gravatar @OliverSalzburg? My compy just changed your pic from an actual person to nice geometric shape
@Mokubai Not for me
Hmmm, beginning to question this firefox install.
18:19
my latest purchase
the G400
Oeh, shiny
Any good? I fear my mouse won't have much life left in itself
@IvoFlipse loving it.
bumped the default sensitivity from 800 to 2000 DPI. Mouse does upto 3600, but becomes too fast for me. 2000 is the sweet spot
After I upgrade pretty much everything else, I'll keep this mouse in mind ;)
@Sathya I have the G300, the software is pretty sweet
I have a script for the mouse that changes button-down of one of the buttons to "Low DPI (500) + RMB" and on button-release restores the 1800 DPI setting, awesome for sniping :)
awesome!
18:31
I love that I can program my mouse to weird and funky things via LUA if the desire takes me
@Mokubai just saw the scripting editor - nifty!
And it's programmable per-game, and per "colour" - the G300 has 3 profile sets so I could have 3 setups within a game each profile working the mouse differently
my script:
function OnEvent(event, arg)
	if (event == "MOUSE_BUTTON_PRESSED" and arg == 7) then
 	 -- Mouse Button 6 has been pressed
		SetMouseDPITableIndex(1);
		PressMouseButton(3);
	end
	if (event == "MOUSE_BUTTON_RELEASED" and arg == 7) then
 	 -- Mouse Button 6 has been released
		SetMouseDPITableIndex(3);
		ReleaseMouseButton(3);
	end
end
Interesting @Mokubai
this is what I just setup for D3
I want one of these for work, set copy/paste to one set of buttons, and then run some programs with another set
I was tempted by one of those insane mmorpg mice from Razr for a while...
18:39
@Mokubai overpriced?
They were a bit more than I was wanting to pay.
same
I bought the mouse for an equivalent of ~ $35
the G300 was at $30, but was recommended to go for the G400
The G300 was about the price point I was after to get a nifty gaming mouse and I didn't think I'd use the extra high dpi of the G400
It's weird, the G300 gets 3 quickly switchable profiles, the G400 gets higher DPI
@Sathya I think that's roughly what I paid
And granted I only use the profiles for Payday atm. I should probably make better use of them
@Mokubai for me the increased DPI itself is paying huge dividends
my wrist was getting hurt real bad
18:52
@OliverSalzburg :(
send here
@Sathya It only looks good right now. It's probably 30°C warm :D
@OliverSalzburg Oh yeah, now I need beer
:D
I love visiting Luxembourg
Got a couple of bottles in the fridge
@OliverSalzburg Trying steps, rebooting server
18:58
@Luke The steps from that article?
Yup
@Luke, btw, are you Luke Barone?
@OliverSalzburg How did you guess
@Luke I got a mail the other day, saying a Luke is following me on g+
But I didn't know if it was you :)
Awesome. The StackExchange circle is growing :)
19:10
@OliverSalzburg Ya, it was :P Someone posted your profile, so I added myself
brb updating OS X to 10.8
Do you think this pop-culture reference should have been removed? meta.superuser.com/posts/2198/revisions
^warning kino...
19:36
@Luke Cool :)
19:58
took a bit longer than expected...
Has anyone here ever used OpenSTV?
That tool is so far from self-explanatory, it must be intentional :P
tempting, but didn't Jeff tweet these sucked
@IvoFlipse Juicy
Oh wow. Now I want one too :D
20:15
Are the new mods known?
@Oliver
What do you mean known?
Greets from Rosano, Italia
Near Florence, nice area
Has the election wrapped around, I mean
Cant type fast, bad conn.
@TomWijsman Yes, Slhck, DB and Oliver were elected
20:18
Oh DB and OS got blue names
Thanks
Congratz to 'em
Someone pinged me from Fake Programmers I saw, cant answer on that now. :D
Gtg, finished restaurant. Cya
@IvoFlipse a recent blog post he RT'd today indicates that they don't actually suck if you know how to make changes to the brightness, which he figured out.
@codinghorror At last, a 27" Korean IPS monitor write-up, as promised. Includes bacon unicorns. http://bit.ly/MHRG2q
@nhinkle In that case, I'm very much tempted to get one
Though why would it have to be 27 not 24 inch :\
@nhinkle Reading that very review now
Ironically he even mentions Jeff in it
I'm sorely tempted myself.
Maybe a "sketchy korean monitor off ebay" should be one of our prizes :P
Hehe, worth the risk :P
We could always ask Jeff if we can give away his, hehe
LOL
if he decides he doesn't like them
maybe he'll give them away like he has with some other stuff before
20:28
Wow, Launchpad search is totally useless... so much for my plans to ditch LaunchBar. Seems @slhck was right...
@Mokubai Doing pretty good, but you would wonder about what crazy flag reasons people come up with :P
@DanielBeck Right about what?
Oh man, I'm so tempted, just need to find the right one @nhinkle
@slhck That Launchpad won't be good enough to replace any launcher even if I'm only using it to launch things.
@DanielBeck Ah… now I remember. Fully switched to Alfred these days now.
Do we still allow questions posted without registration? I thought this was disabled a while ago?
So that only answers can be posted anonymously
20:43
@DanielBeck Only on SO due to traffic increase
How on earth do you pick between all these screens
**Customizable sidebar**
Customize the sidebar by dragging categories to the desired location

They call *this* a feature?!
Good night everyone!
@slhck good night
Bye @slhck
20:47
@IvoFlipse 400$, how much is e.g. the Dell U2711 in the same market?
@DanielBeck Way more AFAIK
Besides the ones I'm seeing are a lot cheaper
That one is 250 euro
lol, 30 inch is almost my TV
@IvoFlipse Add 20% VAT, import tax, and convert from EUR to USD and you're at 400...
@IvoFlipse That just means your TV is too small :-)
The conversion shouldn't apply, import tax is about 35 euro I believe and VAT would be about the same
@DanielBeck well I believe its 34, my GF thought 37 was too large
I bet she longer thinks that though
Though honestly, I'm not sure I want a 27 inch one, but there are no higher res 24 inch monitors
@IvoFlipse There's no effective VAT in the US when ordering stuff online AFAIK.
@IvoFlipse You get used to 27" quickly.
@DanielBeck Hehe, well I'm not even sure I have the space :P
Guess I should rotate one of my 22 ones
20:52
@OliverSalzburg No change
@IvoFlipse Why shouldn't it apply? It's not like you're buying milk in your local store, you're getting electronics from Korea...
@DanielBeck Doesn't ebay show me the right price then? Its already in both dollars and euro's
But I guess I'll wait until after my vacation, god knows what will happen to the prices in the coming 2 months
@IvoFlipse If you add VAT and import tax to $300 it's 400 as well...
The cheapest Dell 27 inch is 590 euro
20:55
@IvoFlipse including or excluding VAT?
@DanielBeck including
@IvoFlipse I bought it in December for 544 incl 19% VAT in Germany.
Germany is cheaper than the Netherlands, obviously nothing stops me from driving to Germany
I'm drooling at these monitors...
Anyway, that the difference isn't that huge is just another indicator that these screens are real and not a scam.
20:59
@DanielBeck Indeed
I guess I should review one for the blog :P
@Ivo aww man, I was going to say that
@nhinkle Guess we need to check different types then :P
@IvoFlipse verily.
Hmmm... HP ZR2740w, 27" costs 440 excl. VAT... get one of these and one from Korea and compare them for the blog @IvoFlipse @nhinkle ;)
In fact, I might need to try three different types. (Wishful thinking...)
21:02
No clue which to pick though
Anyone else wanna try their luck at a ServerFault question of mine?
btw @nhinkle Jeff responded again
@ivo if the community wants it, you can certainly try it as an experiment. But I want to go on record saying that this is kind of a "punish the user" decision you guys are making here, in the sense that you're allowing them to ask questions that have near-zero probability of getting good answers on Super User, based on the existing audience. Woe betide the poor user that asks an iPad question here "because it is allowed"; that can only end in tears. — Jeff Atwood 14 mins ago
In other news, does anybody want to purchase a new in box never before used 14" HP dm4 Beats Edition laptop? MSRP is $900, I'll sell it for $800 shipped, and am willing to bargain/negotiate.
CPU: Ivy Bridge Core i5-3210M 2.50 GHz (Turbo Boost to 3.10 GHz)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
RAM: 6 GB DDR3 (2 DIMM)
GPU: Intel HD 4000
HDD: 500 GB 5400RPM HDD
SSD: 32GB mSATA (can be used for cache or separately)
ODD: SuperMulti DVD burner
Display: 1600x900 matte LED-backlit
LAN: 10/100/1000 Gigabit ethernet
WLAN: 802.11b/g/n + Bluetooth + WiDi wireless display
Card reader: multi-card reader (incl. SD card)
Audio: Beats Audio w/ 2 speakers + subwoofer
Kbd: Backlit full-size chiclet keyboard
Price?
@Luke whoops. Added.
21:10
@nhinkle Doesn't sound too bad
So I guess it didn't work out with HP then?
Decent specs. I don't personally like the "beats" branding, which is why I'm selling it, but the specs are pretty darn good.
@IvoFlipse not the way I hoped it would.
@nhinkle I'd love having USB 3 on my laptop, but I can't get over the 5400RPM hard drive... I will pass on this one, sorry
@Luke I have a 7200 RPM 500GB HDD I can throw in too, if you want. And it does come with a 32GB SSD as well
The HDD is super easy to swap out in this model.
@nhinkle Sorry, but I can get more for less through my work. I don't want to negotiate down as far as I'd like, I respect you too much for that
@Luke aww. Well thanks for the interest, and for your concern for a fair price. :)
If anybody knows anyone who's looking to buy a laptop, send them my way. The Super User discount applies to friends and family too :D
21:14
@IvoFlipse So we now have official team consent?
@DanielBeck for dubious values of "official", "team", and "consent", yes :P
@nhinkle Good enough for me.
Hey, you're official now too :P
@DanielBeck The most important reason the FAQ hasn't changed is that I'm not sure everyone can agree on the current wording
The devil's in the details, for sure.
21:16
And on top of that, I haven't bothered to ask the team. I thought that would be a suitable task for one of our new mods ^^
@IvoFlipse A vision quest, as it were?
That reminds me, I urgently need to... go do something... somewhere else.
Pretty much
You mean go ask the team something? :P
Look, I can't just start bothering the team about stuff the day after I got elected. That's probably what is expected, given my history of annoying people with diamonds next to their names. I need to wait a few weeks, lay low, so they start feeling safe again.
In other words, send someone else :P
Already making excuses? He's going to be good at this job, I can tell! :D
And good plan - we'll let you sneak attack them with the FAQ request in a couple weeks. I like that.
21:21
@DanielBeck Hehe, well played
Seriously though, it seems the topic of concrete FAQ updates has been neglected a bit the past few weeks. I don't think we're have a really good solution. I'll probably take a look at it later this week.
@DanielBeck obviously, we're not exactly in a hurry, so no worries
hey it's the mods!
Yeah, we were just complaining about how hard it is for us to get our FAQ updated :P
rofl
21:44
@Aarthi oh it's no laughing matter. serious face
srs
got it.
:|
what's the difference between tempered glass and glosse @nhinkle?
@IvoFlipse in what context?
Those screens, they come in different flavors
On, the Korean ones?
21:48
wondering if the glosse means it can't stand any light from behind me
yeah
@IvoFlipse glossey probably does mean no light behind. Glossy ~= mirror.
like a mac
tempered will be more matte, iirc; like a lenovo thinkpad
No, a lot of macs do come with glass.
Glossy is like... well, 90% of the shitty laptop screens on the market
aw
oh! TIL. :D
~learning~
They're even selling Samsung syncmasters

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