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1:09 AM
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
 
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7:37 AM
IT ARRIVED!
I FINALLY GOT STACK EXCHANGE SWAG
 
@JourneymanGeek lmao, the SO notebook is made in India
 
I like how they apparently checked which site you're more active on and tailored the swag yo yhat
 
It's travelled further than I have!
 
@rahuldottech the paper one right?
Mine went from the US, to singapore, to india and back to SG
 
7:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek nah, they just asked which site's swag you want. Sent a Google form and all.
 
@JourneymanGeek yep
 
ooh
never seen that pen before
 
@JourneymanGeek I was just like "SU! And SO is cool too! But SU!!!"
 
so.. the white shirts...
are probably original run
they've gone through 2-3 different brands, and IMO those are the comfyest
 
7:44 AM
@JourneymanGeek :D
 
(because everyone asks for the black ones)
 
Yeah, when I emailed JNat asking if they have SU swag, they said that it might be old stock
@JourneymanGeek meh, I don't mind white
 
@rahuldottech oh, in a sense, that's a good thing
also that's almost the 100K swag pack
Different waterbottle (I got a nalgene one) and a mug
 
@JourneymanGeek you get swag at 100k? TIL
 
@rahuldottech Yup
 
7:48 AM
Anyway this made me suuuper happy
:D
 
I have the SE and a hackaday patch on my backpack
I've gently lobbied for a SU one ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek hey where do you get a hackaday patch from?
Oh look! The tee fits me perfectly!
 
@rahuldottech bought it off adafruit industries
I had an article on HAD ages ago under a different name :D
 
@JourneymanGeek oooh. Link share-able?
 
Its cringily bad
even had my teenage RPer username
.... expletive FOURTEEN YEARS?
 
oh yeah
that badge ;p
I velcrofy mine though
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah I'd like to do that too
@JourneymanGeek lmao
 
thankfully virtualisation has gotten a long way since then
 
Feb 26 '13 at 6:51, by Journeyman Geek
I used to go by faileas, after my old werewolf the apocalypse charecter ;p
Ah this explains it :p
 
Yup
granted...
Geek's also an old RPG char... ;p
 
7:59 AM
Man I wanna write for hackaday!
 
@rahuldottech You'd probably do better than I did ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek I need ideas tho. At this moment all I do is write content which I hope will get viral on HN but never does ://
 
I don't write to go viral
 
@JourneymanGeek nah, I write with a purpose. I just also hope that it'll go viral ;p
 
I write so I can get embarassed 14 years down the road so I have documentation, and its helpful to others.
 
8:09 AM
Protip: cron works best when you actually start the daemon / service
This tip brought to you by "why the heck are my backups not there"
 
lol
If you're starting a daemon though, cron is the 'wrong' way
 
Oh?
 
Yes, there's @reboot but that lacks a lot of the power with a proper init script
I have everything on systemd
 
Aye, a systemd .service file would
Or however that's done
(I should know, my desktop backups use those)
But this was for a VPS and it meant I could use what was in place on the old VPS
I just... forgot to enable and start cronie after installing it
nonchalant whistling
 
I actually need to setup backups on the router ._.
 
8:14 AM
Probably a good idea, should be mentioned somewhere ;-P
 
@bertieb its one of those things that's well documented enough I can get it running
or I should just test setting it up on a USB key ;p
 
Yeah but time is money, or so people from 80s movies keep telling me
 
@JourneymanGeek that reminds me, I need to get my Windows to go drive fixed
 
@bertieb oh if my router goes down...
I erm...
have... 3 backups?
one of which is actually in use
I could switch the mesh network over to being the primary, or dig out one of my old routers, which I need to get on openwrt at some point. One runs tomato, one is stock
 
Fair do's!
 
8:19 AM
and at some point, when I move out, I need to build a second one ;)
 
8:43 AM
OKAY C'MON
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A: How to convert a positive number to negative in batch?

rahuldottechSimply multiply it with -1: set /a A=1 + 2 set /a A=%A%*-1 echo A=%A%

I answered this on Feb 13
Some dude adds a new answer 19 hours ago
and their's gets accepted? Mine works too, man!
unfair
 
9:05 AM
morning
 
@bertieb
> Your balance is now £ 4.35!
You are nearly at the £5 payment threshold. As soon as your balance reaches £5 we can send you your money via PayPal.
This the one you said, if I wait to cash out, you get a better bonus?
 
 
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11:27 AM
I heard about that
Causing issues?
 
11:56 AM
not to me
just looks weird
 
Who knows about OSX, VPN's and adding custom routeS?
 
the petition debate is scheduled for April 1st
 
12:43 PM
Cheap DIY water cooler
Local rivier reservoir
 
is that a CPU or just a lump of metal on the sink?
 
@Burgi actual CPU
 
if its a 286, it'll be fine
 
Actually was thinking a c2d
 
were they passively cooled?
 
1:05 PM
Name a minimalist Linux distro wihtout GUI which has ssh only.
 
@Biswapriyo why do you need it bundled with ssh, can't you install ssh yourself?
 
@barlop It'll also ok.
 
When a monitor is plugged in externally to a laptop, and the laptop is in the BIOS/UEFI, how often does the BIOS/UEFI show on A)The external monitor B)The laptop screen C) Both?
@Biswapriyo i've heard of linux from scratch, that's probably pretty small but requires some DIY.
 
@barlop I want to do a VM in a VM. So, looking for a minimalist distro.
Inception... ;)
 
well i'm sure linux from scratch is minimalist
i've heard of debian netinst too
 
1:13 PM
> 193.128.192.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.192.0 U 0 0 0 tun0
How would I add a route like this
 
@Biswapriyo almost any linux with the right installation media
ubuntu minimal might work
@Burgi no but that's an LGA chip....
 
route add -net 193.128.192.0 default 255.255.192.0 -ifscope tun0 maybe?
 
I've seen passively cooled PIIs and IIIs though
@Biswapriyo hipster option? Alpine. Debian and Ubuntu have minimal options that could work
I'd go with ubuntu server myself cause of UEFI support on minimal being non-existant
(since I run them on physical hardware)
 
1:29 PM
@JourneymanGeek Oh, Alpine, forgot that.
 
1:41 PM
Man, it feels so great when your teachers recognise your efforts and praise you :)
Okay what the heck
Medium.com won't let you sign up with email
You must use Google of Facebook
 
#tinfoilhat
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2:00 PM
@rahuldottech because running secure login is hard....
 
because why do you want to store the users credentials.
let someone else pay for that \o/
 
2:18 PM
 
2:32 PM
OSX, wtf is wrong with you.
 
Ave
3:27 PM
hey, quick q
I updated my bios, my computer went to shut down, now screen is off but power light is on
I feel like this is just a windows bug
Should I just restart it? fwiw the bios update should happen at next boot, not at shutdown
(imagine setting up a windows to go ssd just to flash bios, because lenovo only has bios updaters for windows and not freedos)
 
freedos is a bit niche
 
@Burgi freedos is not relevant to this
 
yes it is
 
She said her screen is off and her powerlight is on. And you're talking about freedos
 
> (imagine setting up a windows to go ssd just to flash bios, because lenovo only has bios updaters for windows and not freedos)
 
Ave
3:35 PM
I used windows
I'd normally use freedos but the bios flasher was windows only
 
@Burgi just because she mentioned it, doesn't mean it's relevant to her immediate problem
 
Ave
which is smth I'm not used to
 
her immediate problem is no screen
If your computer is not even showing the BIOS/UEFI then it's obviously not a windows bug
that symptom would mean you have a problem before windows
 
oh i can't be bothered arguing with you but rest assured, i was right
 
Ave
I force shut it down, I restarted it, it works
 
3:37 PM
So you do get a screen showing?
 
Ave
seems like bios didn't get flashed tho
 
how do you know?
 
Ave
okay, so here's what happened
I ran windows, ran bios update tool, it tried to shut down, didn't shut down fully
I asked here if it's safe to force a restart, forced a restart, it booted as usual, I declared that it didn't flash
I booted back into windows, ran flasher again, restarted properly this time
 
Bob
@Ave yea, that's always a scary time to force power off
 
Ave
and that appeared as it should've, then it restarted a couple times, and now my bios is up to date
 
Bob
3:42 PM
what board is it?
 
Another Satisfied Customer
 
Bob
also, IME flashing the firmware can wipe configs (!!) so if you had anything customised...
 
Ave
@Bob it's a laptop, lenovo v330-15ikb
 
Bob
@Ave oh, laptop. ugh.
 
Ave
and yes IK, I had to disable certain things
 
Bob
3:44 PM
at least most mid-high range desktop boards now either have a backup BIOS or offer some low-level flash
I think Gigabyte does the backup one and Asus does the low-level flash (from a specific USB port)
idk what MSI does
laptops? welp.
 
Ave
now, onto my real problem… I work off a usb ssd, and it keeps randomly crashing, and after that my laptop doesn't post while I have it plugged in. replugging it doesn'r work, hard reset by removing battery and replugging it does
I hoped that bios update would fix it, but it's still persisting
 
@Ave Have you SMART checked it?
 
Bob
@Ave do you also boot off the ssd?
 
Ave
@DavidPostill It's not a drive issue, I've actually bought a second SSD recently, both have the same issue. My other computer (a random dell) with same cable and drive also doesn't have this issue.
@Bob yes
 
Bob
:\
BIOS or UEFI boot?
 
3:53 PM
@Ave So both SSDs have the same issue on the same PC. Do any of them have this issue on another PC?
 
Ave
@ThatBrazilianGuy as I said, it's not a problem I have on another PC
@Bob bios
(so that I can easily move between computers)
 
Bob
:/
 
@Ave I assume you applied the latest firmware. The issue persists even after that?
 
Ave
mhm, it's from feb 2019
 
Bob
any chance you can get a different adapter?
 
Ave
3:57 PM
I've ordered a sata -> dvd slot caddy, but it'll take a while to get here.
I was going to get one from inside the country, but none of them had one thin enough. Lenovo made a bad design choice and made the slot thinner than 9.5 by a couple millimeters, so I had to find one that's 9.0mm.
 
@Ave out of interest, I see you are 'she', but why have you explicitly written that your pronoun is 'she'? Have you taken any gender hormones to convert your body from one thing to another?
 
Ave
@barlop yes, I'm trans, I've been on HRT for over 2 years now.
 
ah ok, makes sense then the pronoun thing
 
Ave
Keep in mind that a lot of people, including cis people, do prefer to clearly state their pronouns.
 
well I guess i'm lucky I haven't been confused with a girl apart from when I was 12 on the telephone
 
4:12 PM
i for one respond to "that arsehole over there"
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4:34 PM
Once a drunk guy confused me for a girl.... I think
 
4:47 PM
roar
@barlop Ave is transgender, and this might confuse some folks here. It's very important that we respect her wishes, though.
 
5:17 PM
@djsmiley2k Yup, I think I get 5% of what you cash out with? (I'll check, apols for double ping but muh unbalanced parentheses)
@Burgi Maybe hitch up your trousers a bit next time? ;-P
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lol
 
Hello!~
 
@rahuldottech roar
 
@bwDraco Nothing confusing about it, really
How you doin', btw, @ave?
@bertieb Uncultured swine, all you brits UK-ians
 
lol
 
@rahuldottech Uncultured swoine am oi? Why oi ought to... Yakty Sax plays
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5:50 PM
@rahuldottech Oy. Who are you calling Ian? There are no Ians in this room.
 
@DavidPostill There's a true Ian inside each and every one of us :)
 
@DavidPostill lol
 
I swear to god I will explode the next time that a website refuses to take my .tech email address for sign-ups
Medium is supposed to be a major goddamned publication platform
 
@rahuldottech Poorly designed Outdated email validation filter not accounting for gTLDs :\
 
@bwDraco Ay. Might actually be Google Captcha in this case actually
Medium has the latest version which constantly evaluates whether or not you're a bot in the background
It pops up in the lower right corner of the page when I enter my email address. Gives me an image-captcha if I enter a gmail address and if I solve the captcha I get emailed the log-in link
But if I use email hosted with my own domain, it... just redirects me to the previous page
stupid stupid stupid stupid
 
6:07 PM
@rahuldottech What?!?!?!?
I want to get my own domain
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy ...
 
YOU'RE NOT AN EMAIL PROVIDER CLIPPY!!!!!
 
Haven't we been discussing my domains here for several months years now?
 
Hmm, that@brazilian.guy
Quick, someone check if .guy is gone!
 
I have on email for sign ups and accounts, one for personal use, one for professional use
 
6:08 PM
@rahuldottech I'm "whatting" at captcha's behaviour.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy oh yeah. Bloody ridiculous.
 
I wanna use service@me.com for each service I sign up.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I initially considered that, but it's wayyy too much effort to create new accounts
 
Three different Yahoo accounts and a (mostly unused) Outlook.com account tied to my Microsoft account.
 
I also have a bunch of gmail accounts
One hotmail, for Windows log-ins
I think I made a yahoo account at one point but I don't remember the address, let alone the password
 
6:15 PM
@bertieb th@t.brazilian.guy
 
@CanadianLuke Oho
 
flex
 
... Show off
 
butwhy.gif
 
/me signs @rahuldottech up for lots of mailing lists that don't care about Anti-Spam Laws
 
6:16 PM
:D
 
@CanadianLuke Don't you need to confirm subscriptions?
;p
 
Updated
 
And my password is totally not hunter2
:49674368 that's cool!
 
It's not what? I just see some astrisks
 
Hmm. odd. Why is it still parked?
Let me just check my configuration...
 
6:17 PM
I really wanted rahul.dev but someone snatched it before I could :(
@bwDraco redirects for me
God, you guys need to stop deleting messages that don't need to be deleted
 
Lemme just check the DNS entries...
 
@rahuldottech Mine seemed rude as I had missed Luke's joke ;-P
 
That said, can a room owner please trash this? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/49674334#49674334
 
Okay, turns out an old CNAME record for the parking page was left there. It's gone now.
I did wind up registering bwdra.co but I've got nothing on it (it currently just redirects to my main site at fierydragonlord.com).
 
1 message moved to Trash
@rahuldottech Done.
 
6:20 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Thanks
 
6:32 PM
@rahuldottech And edited. Otherwise those names are still visible in the trash ... :)
 
@DavidPostill Thanks! I didn't want to bother a mod by pinging or flagging
 
morning/evening/afternoon all.
 
@JohnP Hello
 
AAAAAH A MOD! Quick! Everyone pretend to be nice!
 
Have a quick windows question - If I have an IP in a netstat dump with a status of TIME_WAIT, is there a way to see what is generating that traffic?
assume for the moment that I don't have access to the external firewall logs and the windows firewall (Server 2012) is not turned on.
@ThatBrazilianGuy You do know @DavidPostill is a mod too, hey? :)
 
6:35 PM
@JohnP He doesn't count. David is one of us. One of us! One of us!
 
@JohnP He's one of us first
 
Ahem. I'm a mod first :)
 
*ominous voice* There is no God here...
*normal voice* but once we had a Dog.
 
6:38 PM
No. I think it's too late by that point.
> The socket is waiting after close to handle packets still in the network.
 
@DavidPostill So, these lines tell me nothing?
TCP xxx.xx.xx.xx:60220 yy.yyy.yyy.yy:443 TIME_WAIT 0
TCP xxx.xx.xx.xx:60221 zzz.zzz.zz.zzz:443 TIME_WAIT 0
something is generating that feed, but I will be damned if I can find it. (Actually, I'll be damned if I can't find it.)
 
No. "closed sockets which fall in the TIME_WAIT state are instantly re-assigned to process 0 (System)" so you no longer have a PID.
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Q: How to know which process was using a port after it enters TIME_WAIT state?

user41183On Linux, is there a way to figure out what process was using a port, before it went into TIME_WAIT state. When I use netstat -tnp I just see two end points, but no process information. Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp ...

 
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@JohnP
 
Well, at the very least I've identified which server it's going out from. That was a mystery too.
 
6:47 PM
> For questions about the site please contact the webmistress at [...]
"You dirty, dirty web administrator, you..."
 
Steady on, now
 
7:01 PM
@JohnP So am I... </3
 
@bertieb th@brazilian.guy maybe?
 
7:50 PM
67
Q: Anatomically Correct Strange Women In Ponds Distributing Swords

nullpointerChaos plagues the land. In the West, the King in Orange blusters and bloviates endlessly in barely comprehensible gibberish. Perhaps he is attempting to call forth the Elder Gods? In the East, the Queen of Mayflies glowers menacingly and shakes a vaguely pole-shaped object1 at friend, not foe. Th...

> A human lady clad in samite will perfectly mimic a human lady clad in samite. Also, women generally have woman-like arms[citation needed].
> You would be surprised to find that women look like women.
 
 
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10:58 PM
oh god!
can i come live in a less crap country?
 
THE EMPIRE IS FINE, NO CHANGE REQUIRED. KEEP CALM, CARRY ON!
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Okay... this is bizarre. Three (identical) laptops in a row have prevented me from using the keyboard on the boot menu when trying to boot from a USB, but when I restart and try to enter the boot menu again it flickers the menu for a second then boots from the USB anyway.
USB is not set as the first boot option either.
 
11:16 PM
i've been told that the confirmatory referendum "won" despite the customs union having the narrowest gap
apparently i should have sorted the "for" column
shrugs
 
I'd actually have a "percent in favor" and "percent against" column.
(based on the total of 650 MPs, not the sum of for and against)
 
11:31 PM
Would a question asking why modern laptops don't have swipe fingerprint sensors anymore be well-received, or would it be too broad? If the latter, what can I do to make it less broad?
I've noticed that almost every laptop sold in my area from the mid-late 2000s until around 2012 or so (i.e. the era of Windows 8) had a built-in fingerprint sensor, all the way from lower-end "multimedia" home PCs to higher-end business machines. But in the early 2010s, that started disappearing.
When I last went to a computer store, there was only one laptop that had a fingerprint sensor, and it wasn't the "swipe" kind that used to be extremely common back in the Windows Vista/7 days.
 
/me looks at the brand new laptop on his desk that has a fingerprint sensor.
 
@MichaelFrank places a bet that it's not a swipe sensor
 
You're right, it's not, but the one beside it that's from 2016 has a swipe sensor on it.
 
I have never seen a single machine with a fingerprint sensor since smaller laptops became common, during the Windows 8 era.
Those used to be extremely common in those days, with all PCs except small netbooks having them. My friend's 2009 $300 Pentium laptop has one.
As does every machine of mine made back in those days. (I do hold on to all my old computers.)
 
They are a lot more common on business variants than on consumer models now.
 
11:42 PM
So I guess I can un-broaden my question by limiting my question to consumer models
 
You'd still be asking a question that will require guessing.
Who knows why any single manufacturer stopped putting fingerprint sensors in their laptops, let alone all of them...
 
11:56 PM
Would this proposed question be considered good and on-topic, or would it be too broad?
Right now I'm less concerned about potential answers; just about if it's a good fit for the site or not.
 

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