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Bob
3:41 AM
@HornOKPlease try.dot.net
 
Bob
4:22 AM
Slow day today
 
 
1 hour later…
5:33 AM
@Bob terrible and exhausting day
I just have four months of schooling left, but man, it's killing me
 
6:12 AM
Samsung going QLC, refreshing TLC NAND SSDs.
I hope Samsung does this right. QLC is a big opportunity to make high-capacity SSDs affordable. They can't afford to mess up here.
I think Samsung will eventually replace the MLC-based PRO line with a Z-NAND product. TLC NAND has advanced far enough that the average consumer will never need more performance.
The need for 2-bit MLC NAND has mostly disappeared. Samsung still makes limited quantities of 3D MLC NAND for enthusiast and workstation applications but it's far from mainstream these days.
> Samsung also mentioned that in Q2 2019 they are planning to introduce a higher-performing 512Gb QLC die to complement their current 1Tb die. Samsung compared the performance of this new 512Gb die against an unspecified competitor's 1Tb QLC, claiming that Samsung's high-performance QLC will have 37% lower read latency and 45% lower program latency.
 
Bob
Note to self: browsers read HTML, not Markdown
 
I'm eager to see the day when I can buy an 8 TB SSD at the local Best Buy, and do so at reasonable cost. 3D QLC NAND will make this possible.
I'm sure @HornOKPlease would be pleased.
(above quote: AFAICT, right now "unspecified competitor" is IMFT by default)
 
 
1 hour later…
7:37 AM
@rahuldottech Asking in the wrong place, or asking with the wrong attitude...
 
8:13 AM
morning
 
9:05 AM
so. I decided to upgrade my home lab a bit....
 
does SG have the same plug sockets as the UK?
 
useful to know :)
are you also at 240v?
 
yes
actually it is the post war british system
india is the pre war british system
 
@JourneymanGeek I sense more plugs :P
 
9:15 AM
Yes
one more and a multi adaptor
shrug
Its actually temporary, I just need it long enough to throw in a ssh server
 
hehe
You don't realise this is a thing now :P
it'll be a thing forever.
!!shamelessplug
etc
 
I mean actually needing a plug for the monitor
its my secondary lab display ;)
(my crossover's the primary, that thing is crazy)
 
its the curtains i love
 
@Burgi it gets better actually
its 3 sets of mismatched curtains
 
LOL
 
9:22 AM
no, 2 sets. the third set on the other side also doesn't match
 
are they in your room?
 
yup
The old curtains had holes
I wanted to buy new ones from ikea but mom was like "Nooo we have curtains!"
.... none of which matched
 
9:40 AM
parents...
 
What are they good for!
 
also the router seems broken \o/
Arn't I glad I took notes of almost everything except what I did last night?
It might just be hanging on "Cloud-init"
 
10:30 AM
Why is windows search so slow?
i'm looking for a file name with a perticular string in it
i search and it takes about 10 minutes
I fire up cygwin, cd to the dir, ls | grep it (horrific I know) and boom, it's there
 
Bob
cause it lives in an unindexed folder
if you're finding it with ls (not find) that's a different search strategy where you know a lot more about the possible location
 
 
2 hours later…
12:19 PM
@Bob what's so special about those?
 
@HornOKPlease if the folder is indexed, it's in a central database that lets it quickly do search string -> filename location lookups, similar to locate on *nix
If it's not indexed, windows has to actually examine the contents of every directory under it to see if what you're looking for is there, which is expensive even on an SSD and shockingly slow (due largely to the seek-heavy nature of the workload) on spinning metal.
Compare locate to find and you'll see the same thing.
 
@Bob if that's running purely in the browser that'd be amazing
 
Comparing it to ls is not an apples-to-apples comparison because there you already know where the file is, so there's only a single directory to read. ls -R would be a fairer comparison.
 
@ToxicFrog I think you meant to reply to @Bob, not me. I wasn't asking about folder whatevers, look at the message I replied to :P
 
@HornOKPlease oh, sorry. I think the message you replied to is too far back for me to see.
 
Bob
12:33 PM
@HornOKPlease New, shiny, and supposedly the best ever :P
@HornOKPlease There's a network request :(
Though I think it'd be possible to webasm roslyn and dotnet corert and run it in the browser...
 
> Most of the world's Internet users lost access to YouTube for several hours Sunday after an attempt by Pakistan's government to block access domestically affected other countries.
> On Friday, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority ordered 70 Internet service providers to block access to YouTube.com, because of anti-Islamic movies
> Pakistan Telecom established a route that directed requests for YouTube videos from local Internet subscribers to a "black hole," where the data was discarded, according to Renesys. Pakistan Telecom's mistake was that it then published that route to its international data carrier, PCCW Ltd. of Hong Kong, Underwood said.

The second mistake was that PCCW accepted that route, Underwood said. It started directing requests from its customers for YouTube data to Pakistan. And since PCCW is one of the world's 20 largest data carriers, its routing table was passed along to other large carriers w
!!wat
!!gigawat
...the internet is a series of tubes strung with shoelaces and used for multi billion dollar business
 
that was years ago
 
That was yesterday
Pls fix your time machine.
 
Bob
@Burgi Not the first time, won't be the last.
 
no no, they did exactly the same thing about 4 years ago
 
Bob
12:42 PM
Yea that's how I set my clock
 
for exactly the same reasons iirc
 
No wait, that indeed was in 2017.
TBG pls fix your smugness
3
So it was out this week for other reasons.
I.. shared without reading.
Or checking
I did the same thing that gave relevance to That Candidate
 
Bob
He Who Must Not Be Named?
 
No, "not him" ;-)
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy dogdamnit pakistan
@ThatBrazilianGuy simple solution. Null route any country that does it for a week.
oh
its old
 
12:56 PM
Yeah
I just became a WhatsApp Aunt
 
lol
I can relate to that
 
@Aibobot I knew you would.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy there's basically an equivilent of this place on whatsapp for family lol
 
Next week: TBG - "LUNIX IS COMMIE OS SHARE TO YOUR FAMILY"
 
ooh
 
12:59 PM
@Aibobot Dude, Brazil is South American India, basically. Every family here has it.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy probably!
 
We don't even explain the concept. "WhatsApp family group", everyone knows about it.
 
we also use it at work tho
 
So de we. Well, not us US because Telegram is so sooooo much better but we're 0.0000000000001%
WhatsApp defacto replaced phonecalls, texting, emails, everything.
Everyone only gets calls either from old relatives, telesales or debt collectors
 
hah
pretty much
Actually my main line mostly is used to "Hey! DOOR PLEASE" my previous shift or I get called by telesales "I'm busy, maybe call me back later"
then I block the number
 
1:13 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy I know. It's a pity that telegram isn't more popular
 
I'm particularly not fondly of attaching location-tied, physical-item-possession-tied UIDs to a messaging platform.
That said, Telegram is superior to WhatsApp in nearly every aspect. The only thing it lacks is video calling.
 
and well
heh, which is why I like riot ;)
I have 3 phone numbers so...
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy if only it didn't bind to your mobile number...
@Aibobot riot is too technical. I don't see it ever catching on amongst the masses
Also, what are riot calls like? I've never tried
 
@rahuldottech well, true but not everyone needs a homeserver
jabber would/could have been the one true chat (tm) but everyone had to reinvent the wheel
 
@Aibobot I'm pretty sure if someone just made a fork with a default homeserver which can't be changed and a simpler UI and default encryption, it could get quite popular
Hell, I might try that myself after exams
 
1:31 PM
@rahuldottech Ironically, binding to your mobile is what made them popular. The regular user can't remember their password. Their mobile is an easy concept.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy what's a WhatsApp Aunt? Someone who shares fake news on WhatsApp?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy fun part is telco apps that basically use a OTP to login
so your're using a thing to authenticate itself
@HornOKPlease yes
 
or correct/accurate news that's super old, but is being presented as new
 
or inaccurate news that's super old
 
lol
there should be a distinction between different family members for each of these
WhatsApp Aunt = shares fake (but recently posted) news
WhatsApp Grandma = shares old (but accurate) news
WhatsApp Grandpa = shares fake AND old news
 
1:43 PM
my granma dosen't share news XD
 
neither does mine because all of my grand* are dead
aunts and uncles too
 
@HornOKPlease :'(
 
my granma dosen't share news XD
my other late granma never used whatsapp
 
@HornOKPlease No free cookies and chocolate and cake and ice-cream and hugs
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy all of the above except the hugs made me fat; and nobody's hugged me in years and years (idek when was the last time) but I'm pretty sure those aren't fattening at least
 
1:49 PM
Last week I took my shirt off on the beach and a cute girl compared me to this comedian:
 
pffffff lol
Are you referring to a random cute girl or your wife specifically?
 
Neither. My wife's relative. I don't mind it that much now that I'm not actively looking for dating... But it still hurts a bit.
 
wow
 
Like, "if I were dating I'd be fucked; if we ever (god forbid) split I'm fucked"
@Burgi "wow" as in that's shitty of her, or as in that's shitty of me to state she's cute?
 
the former
 
1:57 PM
(I only mentinoned the latter as a matter-of-fact statement)
 
should have responded that the womenfolk in her family look after their men REALLY well
and the fact her partner is stick thin is a bad reflection on her skills
 
...and also, psichologically, it hurts a bit more when the person calling you ugly isn't ugly themselves.
 
heh, I'm a bit tubby, losing my hair and its going white
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I definitely get that
@ThatBrazilianGuy or more specifically, not fucked :P like me :P
 
lol
 
2:02 PM
or s/ed/able/ -- but there's a sore spot with the CMs because they made us remove !!fuckable
 
(actually... 2 of 3 is true of the roombie ;) )
@HornOKPlease devs actually
 
true, true
 
they are only sore they aren't getting any
 
I actually grabbed the !!fuckable code from the bot and put it into a REPL, disentangling it from the internals of the bot to be generally useful: repl.it/@SeanMcNamara1/fuckable
@Burgi No, that's (some of) us; the devs probably get plenty as they're rockstars
 
i wish i were a rockstar dev :(
 
2:05 PM
@Burgi you can be!
 
I'm just a sign, I can't code
sometimes people shoot BB guns at me
 
@HornOKPlease oh dear lord that website on mobile
 
@rahuldottech wow, I was expecting it to be at least slightly usable
 
@Aibobot I'm slowly losing hair, it's not receding but getting a bit more... what's the word? Less dense. But it's nearly imperceptible.
Other than that, people regularly assume I'm 10 years younger.
 
@HornOKPlease it isn't at all
 
2:08 PM
it looks ok on my handheld Mac iPhone XS Max once you login
 
the code is there but it doesn't run
wait... nvm,
 
@HornOKPlease I prefer smaller phones, so...
 
@Bob i was using the windows searching in explorer
 
nope it doesn't work
 
inside the folder containing the files.
 
2:12 PM
> iPhone XS Max
makes calculations in Brazilian
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k *shrug* maybe it went DF
 
@ToxicFrog So, i expect windows to do the sensible thing, 1. 'Check the current folder', 2. check subdirs.
Alphabets, how do they work.
 
atom.x86_64.rpm.1 0%[ ] 58,57K 8,68KB/s TED 8h 42m
OH C'MON FOR FUCKS SAKE
 
##flagged
omg.... are we totally botless?
2
 
If I go home, download atom, copy it, and come back, I"ll still have saved 6:30 hours.
@Burgi THE HORROR!
 
2:16 PM
i think you mean "flag fcuk".
 
oh joy
My office networking is down
@Burgi yes
also LANGUAGE!
 
@JourneymanGeek Better being down than THIS:
 
@JourneymanGeek i was refering to a british fashion chain!
 
atom.x86_64.rpm.1 0%[ ] 687,57K 3,14KB/s TED 13h 26m
 
Better
 
2:18 PM
Now it's "only" 13hs.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy is it your connection or...
 
At work.
A coworker a few workstations away just ran apt update without issues.
 
are you literally using the jungle telegraph to connect to the internet?
 
Our networking is weird. Some PCs get different IPs, routing, speeds...
@Burgi Yesterday I downloaded a (legal) Win10 iso at gigabit speeds.
ON THIS VERY SAME PC
 
@djsmiley2k I think that's a reasonable expectation, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see it traverse stuff in the order readdir() (or whatever the windows equivalent is) returns it; that's easier to implement.
 
2:21 PM
@Burgi IPoToucans
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I wonder if its the repo
I know some repos suck
 
what if you use wget?
 
I'm already using wget. -_-
 
i thought you were using apt-get
 
2:22 PM
Let me see if a national mirror gets this ridiculous speed as well.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy So you can always respond to calls with 'diethxk?'
 
@Burgi No, coworker did.
 
why don't you try that?
have you tried rebooting?
 
Oh hey @Bob, Chrome's finally implemented the "Switch to tab XYZ" thing from Firefox's awesome bar
 
Bob
o.O
 
2:23 PM
Ok now the same wget is at 12 MB/s. Go figure.
 
Bob
@noitsbecky I guess that's one way to sidestep the issue of collapsing tabs into nothingness
 
And wgetting ubuntu from a local national repo gets me 40 MB/s (should be 100)
 
Or just catching up on a feature Firefox has had for five years
Collapsing tabs, plugin data, user data, and eventually users themselves into nothingness seems to be core to Google's philosophy anyway, so it's not like we're ever getting out of that.
 
@noitsbecky how do I access this tab switch thing?
 
Also what the hell is this strange arrow thing
Still not convincing me to stick with Chrome, but still 5+ years into procrastinating my switch back to Firefox.
Ironically Microsoft might be Google's saviour in this case in making me stick to Chrome by implementing Android sync features in Windows I've been begging for for years.
 
Bob
2:33 PM
@noitsbecky ever been to japan?
 
@noitsbecky Mines been doing that for months?
 
@noitsbecky click on arrow to directly searh imdb from your url box thingy
 
@Bob No, but been wanting to for decades, why?
 
Huh. Neither of those show up for me.
 
Bob
@noitsbecky cause I'm headed there in ~3 weeks and was wondering if you had any tips (or places to visit)
 
2:34 PM
@Bob You saw the Kyoto train gif on Riot I cc'ed you the other day?
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy ya, was planning on it
 
It had a Reddit comment saying the best time of the year to catch that train
 
@Bob Oh. I have friends of friends who live there, but that's about it.
 
@ToxicFrog it only shows up if you've visited the website before and it has told your browser that it has a search engine (iirc). Interestingly, I have absolutely no idea how it does that.
 
2:35 PM
Infact, I have a button
 
I'd say check out the ultrafast maglev train but I don't think the full line is open till 2025 and I'm not sure the visitor section is still open during the main line construction.
 
"why the hell should India be a secular country?" — my great father
 
@noitsbecky try typing "por".... ;P
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy I might be a bit early for the best view though :P
 
@Burgi nothing happens unless it's in your history and it has a search engine. I don't think most of them do.
 
2:37 PM
@Burgi @ThatBrazilianGuy @Bob I'm going to break down and fix the login code for Cavil today
in fact I'll do it right now
 
Bob
@noitsbecky Chuo Shinkansen? Doesn't look open yet
 
@djsmiley2k Huh. My Chrome doesn't update that infrequently, mostly because my laptop crashes at least once or twice a week and Chrome auto-updates at next launch
Erf damn Wikipedia. Try to look up one thing, end up opening 20+ pages of related articles and guides to editing/fixing errors on said articles
 
Bob
@noitsbecky also I need to test out internet speeds :P
which'll probably be crap cause my S9 apparently doesn't support all the bands they use O_O
 
@HornOKPlease Don't rush
 
2:48 PM
@rahuldottech Clicking on the arrow just takes me to imdb.com
@rahuldottech XML and meta tags. C'mon basic 10+ year old web design
@Bob The line itself no, but the historical development & test tracks are being integrated into the eventual main line as far as I know and they've been open to tourists for decades.
@Bob On a train? Well the original IMT-Advanced 4G definition supposed calls for 100Mbps+ at 350km/h though looking at the actual technical documents referenced on Wikipedia I don't see where that number comes from
 
Bob
@noitsbecky Probably not on the JR pass though :\
The express trains aren't covered
 
@Bob Yeah I was gonna mention, Japan has a history of using awkward and proprietary wireless bands for their mobile services. Not sure where they headed with LTE tbh, but previously it was near impossible to roam into Japan with a non-Japanese phone.
 
Bob
@noitsbecky I switched my main number to Vodafone here so I can use their $5/day roaming
but then went and bought a japanese sim anyway... :S
 
@Bob No, but as a techy who likes trains, I'd consider that a tourist attraction in itself. When I went to Shanghai I made a point of taking the Transrapid maglev for the same reason. Had no particular reason to actually take that transit route, I just wanted to go on the fancy maglev train.
 
National roaming works transparently in Brazil in my experience. I've never been out of the country.
Getting voice calls when in roaming is charged, IIRC. Data isn't charged differently at all.
 
2:58 PM
@Bob Yeah I switched my main number to Vodafone over a year ago because of their roaming deals (and their claim of having the most 4G roaming destinations of any UK network)... only got to try it out last week after my contract had long expired anyway, but er... let's just say "quality not quantity" comes into play here
 
Bob
@noitsbecky Ah. I might take a look (at prices) but probably not for me.
 
What kind of person flags "sigh"?
 
Bob
@noitsbecky ...uh.
So it's shit? :P
 
Erf, cba fixing every minor error on Wikipedia today, I've got tons of stuff to do
@Bob Not exactly.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy honk
 
3:02 PM
117 different countries vs 47 on their nearest competitor and 0 for everyone else (the graphic is a bit out of date)
 
Bob
@noitsbecky I thought you were implying that despite the number of countries covered, it performs poorly?
 
It's more a matter of roaming agreements. Vodafone may get you 4G roaming in more countries, but they're more restrictive in which operator you can use. In Spain for example, Vodafone will only allow 4G roaming on Vodafone Spain. Because Vodafone don't throttle roaming data (only network that does that last I checked) it ironically means I get much faster 4G speeds on Vodafone Spain than Vodafone UK.
 
@rahuldottech that was the joke...
 
Bob
@noitsbecky Yea that's the reason I went with them. $5/day and I can use my normal local data allowance (currently 40 GB for $40)
Telstra does something like $10/day and you get 200 MB per day...
 
@HornOKPlease meh, i'm glad the bugger is offline
 
3:07 PM
However, Vodafone's 4G in Spain is something like 1st or 2nd place for speed, but 3rd for coverage, so when you're in a Vodafone blackspot, you can't use 4G on any other network. EE on the other hand has 4G in fewer countries, but generally has access to more networks in those countries (Again in Spain, Vodafone gets 4G only on Vodafone ES, EE gets 4G on Telefonica (Movistar) and Yoigo)
 
Bob
Ah. Not sure what they use in Japan but probably SoftBank. Maaaaybe NTT.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy hmmm?
 
Bob
My other SIM is $50 "unlimited" NTT DoCoMo, but similar ones are 30 GB before dropping to 3G so idk if the description was just wrong. Guess I'll find out.
 
Telefonica Spain has the best coverage and is tied 1st place for speed, but in a double irony, Telefonica UK has no 4G roaming whatsoever, so cannot use 4G on Telefonica Spain. And how does Telefonica Spain achieve those great speeds? By having refarmed a load of 3G spectrum over to 4G.
 
3:09 PM
So UK Telefonica customers get the worst service when on Telefonica Spain, because a) they can't get 4G and b) Almost all the 3G capacity is gone and c) All the other tourists are on that tiny tiny speck of remaining 3G spectrum.
 
Huh. Looks like I get approximately one msiexec call (whether it wants to reboot or not) per boot of Windows on my old/buggy desktop install that used to be Win8.1, even though I've done several repair installs
 
@noitsbecky telefonica UK being.... o2?
 
the first one works and all subsequent msiexecs crash
 
@Bob tl;dr: It's hit and miss. You get more countries, but less networks. If said network has good speed you're fine, but in places like Barcelona they've got excellent speed (over 150Mbps) in places but no coverage at all in others. And you don't get to use the other networks that do have coverage.
 
Bob
@noitsbecky Yea I just hope they have NTT
SoftBank is supposedly worse
 
3:12 PM
@Bob wait, don't you... nvm
 
@Burgi Yes. Also the heaviest throttling UK network when roaming, so lack of 4G hardly matters when you're capped to 384Kbps anyway.
 
and you're going to Japan... ideas connect in brain
 
Bob
and was Vodafone a couple decades ago so they probably do use them...
@HornOKPlease hehe. matrix
 
Tbh, O2 UK while still openly admitting they have the heaviest throttling, has *somewhat* relaxed the limitations, you'll get something like 8-20Mbps now rather than the 384Kbps initially, and 128Kbps after exceeding the 100MB "fair use" they used to do.
That was when they had "unlimited" roaming data prior to the EU regs coming in, you could argue that having unlimited data for £2 a day does warrant some limitations to prevent excessive use, but <0.4Mbps max even when you haven't gotten close to the already tiny fair use limit is pretty heavy handed)
 
@noitsbecky How I see it:
 
3:15 PM
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k funny thing that
of the big 3, voda is the cheapest here
 
I don't know what their prices actually are like
it's just how I imagined it.
 
@djsmiley2k Lmao. Actually when I got my contract it was the opposite, Vodafone was by far the cheapest both for UK and foreign use - which partly explains their abysmal UK performance; they give people 4x the allowance for the same cost as other networks while having 1/2 to 1/8th the capacity in some places. Things have turned around a bit in the last year though, and the situation between O2 and VF has reversed to some extent.
@Burgi Oh they do definitely have the best coverage in the UK, and also have had exceedingly good customer service for quite some time. It's their roaming services that suck (and historically, have sucked even worse)
Unfortunately riding on the back of those coverage and customer satisfaction awards, they've also cut back on customer retention budgets. They're now the worst operator in terms of what deals they'll offer you to stay if you call up and say you want to switch to a cheaper network.
 
yeah i got charged through the nose in jersey
turns out the channel islands aren't in the EU and can avoid their laws about roaming
 
...they Brexited early?
phones Theresa May
 
3:20 PM
they never joined
 
Commercially, it's perfectly reasonable. If you're already pulling in more customers than anyone else and poaching customers from other networks because of your service reputation, there's no need to spend heavy on retaining cheap-asses with low standards.
 
@Burgi Yeah but sssshshshhhh, that spoils my joke :P
 
@Burgi Switzerland isn't in the EU and can avoid their laws about roaming too, however the "good" networks have voluntarily included Switzerland in their EU free roaming packages even before the laws existed.
 
i see brexit has been extended
 
@Burgi coughs to cover CoC patrol Not if backbenchers have anything to do with it cough
 
3:23 PM
@Bob Things go back and forth quite a bit here (which is one major plus of competition) but Voda is usually one of the cheapest of the big 3 here too. But again that just leads to shite service, winning the worst customer service awards nearly every year since records began.
 
they should just build a wall across ireland and be done with it
 
They shared that dubious honour with 3 (Hutchison) for a few years, but the latter company decided at some point they didn't want to keep getting that award and went on a massive campaign to improve their service and image.
 
@noitsbecky what do you think of giffgaff?
 
Bob
@noitsbecky vodafone merged with 3 here, back in 2009
and they're merging with tpg next year
 
@Burgi If Trump couldn't get his wall built what's the chances of May getting one built?
 
Bob
3:25 PM
that said I've had decent in-store service from them
 
@Bob That Prazilian Guy?
 
@noitsbecky we might have to
 
@Burgi Decent service, decent prices, runs on O2 so decent network coverage too. Performance can be flakey due to throttling and corporate shenanigans between the two Beacon RAN "partners" but they've reached a major stepping stone this year in in improving things.
GiffGaff were ridiculed for not having 4G at all in the early days and having hefty markups for 4G packages when they did introduce it, but now include them all as standard just like every other operator. Tbh, the same criticisms did get lobbed at every operator except O2 at the beginning, since O2 was the only one to offer everyone free 4G at no extra cost at the time.
GiffGaff probably got more than their fair share of criticism partly *because* their parent network was the first to offer free 4G to all customers.
 
So when I was out today I saw a car with the plate B17 DCK
And I think it's great
That someone can be so proud of their deck that they want to share it with the world
 
they just learnt docker
they are talking about their dOck
 
3:31 PM
Ohh
I thought it was their deck
As in this:
 
i'll be honest, he sounds more south african
 
(looks safe for work, but sound is very easily misconstrued)
 
@Bob: http://www.linear-museum.pref.yamanashi.jp/english/faq.html
> People residing outside of Japan cannot apply for a test ride.
 
Zooth Efriken?
 
Looks like foreigners can only watch, not ride, the Chuo Shinkansen test trains at present.
Sadly, the final line will be mostly tunnel so not really much to see out the window, but it's still the first (and currently only seriously planned) >400km/h long distance ground transport in the world. We almost had one in Scotland, the Scottish government were pretty receptive to the idea of an Edinburgh <=> Glasgow maglev link when I went to the international maglev conference in 2004, but that was before the 2007/8 financial crisis
 
3:34 PM
Someone get Michael Frank, he'll give us an answer :P
 
P.S. In case anyone hadn't guessed it by now:
I like trains.
4
 
(I forget where I came across that first, apologies if it's anyone in here who linked it)
 
it was me
 
lol rly
whoops
Well it clearly made an impression :D
 
Bob
@noitsbecky FWOOOOOOOM~~~~
@noitsbecky ah...
 
3:36 PM
at 400kph everything is going to be blurry
2
 
@Bob Sadly, our local claim to fame in Scotland of having the only regular passenger rail service where you can stick your head out the window at over 100MPH will soon be gone :-(
@Burgi It really isn't. I've been on a 430kph train before, and even my 2004 Sony camera had no problem recording a non-blurry video, let alone my much-better-than-2004-camera-tech human cat eyes
Granted, one advantage of maglev trains is running elevated tracks is a lot easier and cheaper, and much of the track was elevated above ground so you had >5km line of sight for most of the 6-minute 20 second ride.
Sadly the Chinese plans to extend the 30km line to 200km for their hosting of the World Expo never came to fruition, partly because of a major (fatal) crash at the development facility in Germany and partly because of political shenanigans including accusations of the Chinese stealing/cloning the German maglev technology.
Oh, and one of them also caught fire (yay for lithium ion batteries specced in the northern German climate being put into use in the sweltering heat of Shanghai ftw)
Until that point they had a cumulative delay over 3 years measured in mere seconds.
And people here moan about driver-only operated trains when completely driverless trains are breaking reliability and safety records every day...
 
4:12 PM
@noitsbecky OPTO is actually a point of contention here, not because of safety (strictly speaking), but because the unions don't like it.
Unions say "because safety!" when the real reason is "we don't want conductors losing their jobs!"
(we call this "one-person train operation" ("OPTO") on the New York City Subway)
 
5:11 PM
I want robo trains
Train drivers have caused enough crashes in the last 10 years to show they shouldn't be doing it either
 
5:26 PM
@djsmiley2k Robot trains? One could even say... TRAINSformers!
 
CBTC is a prerequisite for this, but the New York City Subway still uses ancient fixed-block signaling technology. The equipment is so old that the MTA often must make its own parts in-house to maintain the system.
By ancient, I mean over a century old.
Fixed-block signaling operates by detecting whether a train is present in particular fixed segments of the track called blocks, and controlling light signals in unoccupied blocks before the occupied ones. The blocks need to be as large as the trains' worst-case stopping distance, and since they're fixed, they limit how closely the trains can run.
CBTC uses computers onboard each train to dynamically compute the required stopping distance given the train's capabilities, speed, and other factors, and communicate this information to other trains so they can run as closely as safely possible. This enables more trains per hour and therefore more frequent service.
Currently, only one line on the New York City Subway uses CBTC: the BMT Canarsie Line, used by the L service.
 
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