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12:03 AM
ah screentogif
 
Bob
lol
I see I'm not needed here
 
I googled gif creator windows, then looked around something looked non dodgy
 
 
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1:55 AM
What I do is use something like OBS to capture the screen, then edit the video and export it as GIF in an NLE program like Shotcut.
 
Oh boy,someone who isn't me is getting extremely paged tonight
 
2:12 AM
@HornOKPlease Huh.... so it's not just our shitty work network.
 
@HornOKPlease Can confirm. I'm getting monkey errors from YouTube.
 
Its totally broken for mew @HornOKPlease
 
They're 500, not 503, oddly enough.
Now it's just returning "An error occurred. Please try again later."
 
mine's just... odd
funny thing is only the main page is broken
nvm
its all broken
 
Yea. search seems to be fine, but loading video content and pretty much anything else is very broken.
 
2:46 AM
ITS ALLLIVEEEE!
Least youtube works for me
 
Bob
3:24 AM
> This post will very much sound like I want you all to get off my lawn - because I do.
cc @HornOKPlease
 
> it's far, far worse for those in developing nations.
This is true. Here, in the land of good enough LTE, gigabit fiber, and a CPU in my smartphone that benchmarks in the same ballpark as Ivy Bridge-U, I barely even notice when pages load 32.5 MB of JavaScript and run an application-in-a-tab that's more CPU-intensive than 2000s-era MMOs :P
To say nothing of the 6-core Coffee Lake in my desktop and laptop that just powers through it
 
3:39 AM
@HornOKPlease I notice when tethered. Especially on the second/limited line
but there's probably people in developing nations with windows XP or even win95 machines with CRTs
(India's gotten much better I guess, but india's changed a lot)
 
... so that dosen't work?
 
3:55 AM
@Bob kneejerk apt update && apt full-upgrade
no libssh update
 
4:21 AM
Huh. The Discord Nitro quote-unquote "store" is offering 60 games that you can play for "free" until January 1, 2021 if you keep your Discord Nitro subscription current. Quite a few are games I don't own yet anywhere, like Trine III, Unleash, Tooth and Tail, and Chaos Reborn. Others are games I absolutely adore (and own) like GalCiv III, Wasteland 2, and Ashes of the Singularity (with expansion!).
Overall, it's surprisingly ... decent, the words of Steve1989MREInfo.
 
4:34 AM
"MREInfo"
 
I think the best thing I've said about army food is "Its suprisingly edible when warm"
 
Other than the old canteen ice milo
That stuff was... basically the best stuff on earth
 
4:50 AM
So... dug out the ultimate source of the "This is Fine" meme: gunshowcomic.com/648
I had no idea this was where it came from.
> That's okay, things are going to be okay.
ROFL
Alt text: "The pills are working"
 
5:08 AM
rofl
> Internal Error
Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org
The POP3 command 'STAT' failed
 
5:55 AM
@HornOKPlease hackaday.com/2018/10/16/… hm. the scary part is I don't know if anything I use actually uses libssh
 
Bob
6:26 AM
@JourneymanGeek Well, if something's hosting a SSH server without your knowledge, you have other problems.
 
7:10 AM
@HornOKPlease Tooth and Tail is kinda fun.
 
7:23 AM
@HornOKPlease is @allquixotic?
@JourneymanGeek hm, all my chillies use OpenSSH
 
@rahuldottech everyone does
 
@Bob this. Is exactly why none of my websites have excessive JS
In fact, my portfolio has like six lines of JS to add link anchors. My blog has none. Heck, I make all my sites responsive using minimal CSS and a single meta viewport tag
I hate bootstrap and Vue and react and whatever else is used for website development nowadays
 
8:06 AM
morning
 
@Burgi your thoughts on the matter? ^
 
you are daft not using bootstrap
 
8:23 AM
@Burgi modern websites can be a bit heavy on a crappy connection
 
agreed
our audiences are in the UK and Europe
 
Didn't you say there's places in the UK with dialup? ;)
 
bootstrap css is 125K
bootstrap js is 50K
 
Ok. that's reasonable
 
why not use something tested and developed by thousands of developers across the planet
 
8:33 AM
@Burgi oh was referring to the general bloatyness of modern websites with 3rd world standard interwebs
 
i think foundation is similarly sized
 
@Burgi php? ;D
 
true
 
Windows?
 
just run your page through pagespeed insights after it is built
if you can get anything above 80% you are doing ok
 
9:12 AM
@Burgi ...?
It's not required
 
 
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10:28 AM
> // Note that 0 is falsy and "0" is truthy, even though 0 == "0".
wut, bro
 
11:13 AM
lol
php?
0 !=== "0" tho
 
11:54 AM
Or JavaScript, perhaps
Oh wait, no, "0" is also falsy in JS
 
 
1 hour later…
1:10 PM
Love love love it.
someone comes up 'You know how I asked you to open firewall, let us ping these servers? Well we still can't get to em'
me fires up terminal - can't ping the servers full stop, they don't respond to pings :d
!!wot
 
Some folks turn pings off
for 'security'
IIRC its the windows (desktop) default
 
Yah
cept this is what the architects of the project told us we need to monitor via
pretty sure this hypervisor will at least give some snmp output or something
 
2:15 PM
Sooooooo libssh
the ssh lib that was going to fix all the problems with libopenssh, because it's too big and buggy.... lol
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k Aren't you thinking of libressl?
@djsmiley2k also there is no libopenssh
libressl was intended to be a better alternative to openssl
libssh is different from openssh which is also different from openssl
@HornOKPlease @JourneymanGeek I'm tempted by the WH1000XM3 :P
technically I already have perfectly good ANC headphones
but that one looks so good ... and 8 hour flight ... and TRS
so tempting :P
 
2:33 PM
lol
I was bad and got headphones for work XD
 
@Bob ah yeah i was
 
I know you folks are into headphones but I'm still happy with my Sennheiser PXC 550 Wireless and see no reason to get another pair of headphones.
@djsmiley2k AFAICT not affected. My servers use OpenSSH.
@HornOKPlease: not again: extremetech.com/computing/…
 
@bwDraco heh, my favourite pair is 1) OOP 2) not really designed to be transported
 
Does anything actually use libssh's server mode?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I reaaaaalllllllly shouldn't
but shiny
 
2:48 PM
lol
 
Nice dynamic SLC buffer, but slow speeds once you exhaust it.
But overprovisioning defeats the purpose of QLC, and that's to get more capacity for less money.
2-bit MLC NAND is a dying breed...
(at least my desktop boots from a 960 PRO)
Thermal throttling behavior is also rather abrupt and at a rather low temperature (perhaps QLC NAND is more temperature-sensitive?): techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/P1_NVMe_M.2_SSD_1_TB/7.html
 
3:21 PM
 
3:45 PM
what is the equivalent in windows of the following unix command and entry?
od -tx1 -c
control + letter
enter
it basically gives the hex value for input
 
4:07 PM
Like, plain windows, using the cmd.exe terminal? I don't know if there is one, and cmd.exe doesn't use the same protocols that *nix terminals do.
 
hey toxic frog nice to see you again
okay just curious
I know with powershell a lot of missing features have been added
 
@MichaelFrank No, I just stopped wearing them -.-
 
4:24 PM
Powershell I don't know anything at all about, I'm afraid, and it has its own TE.
All my terminal experience on windows is either cmd.exe (which is an odd duck descended from the DOS terminal and needs to be handled completely differently from the DEC VT-descended *nix TEs) or cygwin-rxvt (which is a "standard" *nix style TE)
 
@ToxicFrog I like Powershell. Once you understand that it's always Verb-Noun for every command, it's very easy to guess what you need to do
2
And I live in Bash every day!
 
@CanadianLuke I don't use windows often enough for learning powershell to be useful for me, so
 
I have to manage approx. 1000 workstations, and we only use Linux for servers. Powershell is pretty crucial to learn :P But you can do some cool stuff with it too
 
Yeah, for me work is almost entirely Linux (and the parts I touch are 100% linux) and at home I only have a windows machine to use as a gaming console
(and it has Cygwin installed anyways)
 
try WSL
I like it for the most part
although I am still on W7 on my main machine
another powershell question
powershell -File C:\Users\a\Desktop\profile.ps1
seems to exit the prompt despite it stating otherwise in the -help
I want the prompt to stay ideally
powershell -Command .\Users\a\Desktop\profile.ps1 -NoExit
migth work
-NoExit works nevermind
 
 
3 hours later…
7:28 PM
@ToxicFrog no, I'm talking about JS here
@djs
 
8:15 PM
:O
 
 
3 hours later…
11:35 PM
> So true, with Linux, any 'I am having issues doing xyz' just gets RTFM n00b but as soon as you say 'Windows does xyz better' suddenly it is all 'you poor dirty peasant, let us lift you out of squalor'
 
Bob
11:48 PM
@ToxicFrog No it doesn't. Both cmd and powershell use conhost by default.
 

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