Root Access

Bob

02:18

quiet day

Journeyman Geek

02:51

quite

Journeyman Geek

05:33

blah

people need to stop thinking they can comment on my blog for mod issues

djsmiley2k

07:12

@JourneymanGeek you has a blog?

Journeyman Geek

yup

journeymangeek.com

djsmiley2k

Whhhhhat

it's not even like it's associated :O

Journeyman Geek

Its on my profile ;p

but but

shrug There's proper channels for such things

djsmiley2k

yeah

I have a link to my youtube channel in my profile tho :P

Journeyman Geek

._. Over a post I deleted 4 years ago

djsmiley2k

07:18

:D

djsmiley2k

07:36

ah joys

so the guy who started before me, sayin that cat5 cable won't do 1Gbps

my senior, saying 'yes it will'

the theroetical vs the actual

/me gets the popcorn

Michael Frank

You talking Cat5, or Cat5e?

djsmiley2k

Cat5.

ollllllllld cables

but technically, can do 1Gbps

and in this case it's just patching from a port to the switch, maybe 2m max

Journeyman Geek

07:54

shrug try it? ;p

djsmiley2k

welp, not my problem

I'd either try it, or find a cat5e

But i swear he spends more time talking about problems than actually working on them.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Burgi

08:26

morning

djsmiley2k

Sup @Burgi

/me has them tired eyes

thanks to my 3:30am wake up call

oh lord

someones dumped binaries of C.P. into the bitcoin blockchain.

This is why the world can't have anon.

djsmiley2k

08:43

> No they can't
They are only tested for 100mhz so can only carry 100mb
Cat 5e is 350mhz
big, big difference

/me sighs

technically they can, I say

> Category 5 cable is used in structured cabling for computer networks such as Ethernet over twisted pair. The cable standard provides performance of up to 100 MHz and is suitable for 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX (Fast Ethernet), and 1000BASE-T (Gigabit Ethernet). 10BASE-T and 100BASE-TX Ethernet connections require two wire pairs. 1000BASE-T Ethernet connections require four wire pairs. Through the use of power over Ethernet (PoE), power can be carried over the cable in addition to Ethernet data.

Wikipedia agrees.

/me goes back to sleep.

Burgi

> We were let down by our network provider, Zayo, which meant we let our customers down. For that I am truly sorry.
We saw a ‘perfect storm’ of incidents on Thursday including a hardware failure on the north west section of Zayo’s network, a fibre break on their north east section, and our phones going down. We alerted Zayo to the hardware failure at 9.40am and if they had repaired it within their agreed SLA then the resilience in the network would have meant the fibre break on Thursday afternoon would have had no impact on services. Sadly, that wasn’t the case.

hmm...

djsmiley2k

09:00

So your provider doesn't have resilience? ;/

Not sure how a SLA would of saved them, if two things broke

Ah I do see now, after re-reading.

But still.... meh

Jamie Twells

Does anyone use Visual Studio Team Services with TFS and also use the Code Search extension:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vsts/search/code/code-search?view=vsts

because I'm having some trouble with it saying:

"There was a problem processing your request.
Unexpected error in search service."

If I keep opening new tabs in incognito windows in Chrome, eventually the request goes through. It doesn't work if I keep opening the tab in a normal Chrome window.

(Sorry if this is not the correct place to ask)

Burgi

is TFS self-hosted?

Jamie Twells

Yes.

Sorry, I got distracted by the XKCD linked on the right.

Burgi

09:17

hmmm... you might get a better response on Server Fault

Jamie Twells

That does sound like the right place. Thanks

djsmiley2k

> I am currently working with a highly reputable Software House in the West Midlands who are looking for a Permanent Front End Developer to join their growing team. The company has over 650 clients Worldwide and you will have an influential role to play by writing all of the business code.

@Burgi move down here :P

    The company has over *650 clients* Worldwide

    by writing *all* of the business code.

hmmm, can't emphise it?

Burgi

so not a FE dev but a full stack

djsmiley2k

:D yeah

allquixotic

09:39

@djsmiley2k you put it in a code block; formatting doesn't work in a code block

nor does it work on multi-line messages (except for quotes, maybe)

djsmiley2k

I r dumb with the formatting here

@allquixotic ah ok

allquixotic

> .
*test*

djsmiley2k

nope, doesn't work in quotes them

then(

ffssfsfsfs

allquixotic

only works on single lines

djsmiley2k

I tried quotes first, then code, lol

Ah well, point made ;)

thanks @allquixotic

> Tesla's defense coincides with a report from San Francisco, California, ABC affiliate KGO-TV in which Huang's brother, Will, claimed that Walter had complained to his Tesla dealer about how his car swerved unexpectedly several times when passing the area where the accident eventually occurred.

defaq

if you knew your car had problems with a specific area... surely it's then, if not always, that you're going to have your hands on the wheel?

Burgi

09:53

americans....

and a californian no less

they can't help themselves when it comes to suing people

allquixotic

10:19

gapminder.org/dollar-street

Just one family from Brazil - must be @ThatBrazilianGuy since there is only one family from Brazil

Burgi

interesting

djsmiley2k

smething weird going on with these routers

shows no dhcp leases

yet devices have dhcp

from the correct pools

djsmiley2k

11:18

@allquixotic lol

that was fun

we had a fire - not a fire - fire! fire alarm

djsmiley2k

11:37

This is what may have happened in the recent Tesla Autopilot Crash

►

I don't get it though

why doesn't the car slow down when it doesn't know wtf to do

and start flashing lights and sounding alarms going beserk

bwDraco

Mobile Intel Core i9 processors: 6 cores for laptops

djsmiley2k

11:55

Hmmm

I'm in the mood to write some code

I wonder if I could finally make that website that'll take advantage of the Kindle e-ink screen D:

need it to display Temp / Other things

But I hate doing web stuff :d

That Brazilian Guy

12:12

@allquixotic This site makes my potato freeze

For quite literally the first time since I was hired we're working on a site I'm proud of.

It's nearly launched, in fact it is live but with no content.

I'd show you guys but ahem SOMEBODY might have performed the wrong command in the server and erased the conf file with the DB credentials...

...five minutes before closing time yesterday.

(Nothing that a db reset command won't fix)

(and a great reminder of the importance of backups)

(and that includes backing up your db credentials)

djsmiley2k

12:44

@ThatBrazilianGuy you've got backups, right? ;)

:D

/me goes away

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k The source code is all gitified, the prod code is all scripted and dockerized, and the content was inexistent, so all is fine. (I'll have to recreate a handful user accounts). We'll very surely implement a file and db backup at another location as the next thing we'll do.

djsmiley2k

=)

Sooooooooooo

I have some urls, which display a page, which creates a graph (on the same page). I then have to take a screenshot of said graph and insert it into a word document.

Sooooo I'd like to just display the 8 images on a single webpage, instead of 8 tabs

The graphs are svg's

infact, it's all within a Div with the class of 'ResourceWrapper' - wasn't there some nice way of just displaying only that class?

Something like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/20446598/…

yey my virtualbox network is broken again :(

djsmiley2k

13:23

hmmm i fixed it in a bodge, way, I might try and fix it properly in a bit.

It'd be nice if I could have every office vlan on my machine ;D

But I'm usnure how windows is going to feel about 10 vlans...

Journeyman Geek

13:48

boingboing.net/2018/04/02/pepperoni-seagulls-and-a-luxu.html

djsmiley2k

14:20

lol love it

Burgi

14:35

ffs

we get given a super strict deadline to build this website, so we say "keep it super simple so we won't have to build a million different templates" but the CEO turns around and says "make it whizzy! but you can't have more time"

bwDraco

So...

Trends in computing.

I keep hearing about the cloud and everything as a service, and people are moving away from traditional computing systems.

It looks like the big theme is that people are caring less about the hardware they're using and more about the experiences they can get. If X device can run Netflix/browse the web/run office apps/play game ABC/etc., the specific hardware used isn't truly relevant anymore. What matters is that they can get that experience wherever they want.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I tend to refer to that as machines becoming appliances

and well

most people are happy with their walled gardens and not having to worry about the little things

bwDraco

People care about being able to do what they need to do and nothing more.

Journeyman Geek

Don't we all? ;p

Just that we need/want to do more

bwDraco

Enthusiasts like us will always be there, and high-end gaming machines are actually a growing segment. But for the average consumer, specific hardware specs and features are becoming irrelevant.

What I'm seeing is, "this machine has a 7th Gen Core i3 processor, great, it'll handle 4K Netflix."

It's no longer a matter of "device must support features 1, 2, and 3, CPU has clock frequency of at least 1.5 GHz, system has at least 4 GB memory, hard drive/SSD has at least 10 GB free, blah blah blah".

Journeyman Geek

14:52

One rarely looks at the horsepower of their blender ;)

bwDraco

This is what's driving the move to the cloud and away from the traditional PC. Good enough is good enough.

djsmiley2k

15:07

@JourneymanGeek hehe

I do, but I'm weird.

bertieb

15:21

But Will It Blend™ another blender?

djsmiley2k

@bertieb Asking the important questions I see :)

bertieb

@djsmiley2k "Phew! Blender dust! Don't breathe this..."

djsmiley2k

:D

bertieb

Further question: if your blender could blend another blender, could you use Blender to render that blender blending a blender?

djsmiley2k

Marble dust man, as a kid, that captured my imagination

@bertieb Afterwards, you'd surely need to go on a bender...

bertieb

15:32

Or the other way!

A post-bender blender

So if you went on a bender would you still be able to use Blender post-bender to render your blender blending another blender?

(man, keeping the words straight is touch)

djsmiley2k

;D

bertieb

If your name was Bender could you use Blender post-bender to render your blender blending another blender?

(semantic satiation is really beginning to set in)

djsmiley2k

TIL there's a phrase for that.

bertieb

Other ideas beginning to creep in: if you can install netBSD on a toaster you could install Blender on a blender; using Splenda to revivify yourself post-bender, working as a (fat) renderer... but I think I'll quit while I'm still ahead

@djsmiley2k I actually had to look up Blender (the renderer) there to make sure it actually was called that because I'd used the word too many times -_-

Is it just me or does Blender the Renderer sound like some nineties rip-off of Sonic the Hedgehog ?

More ideas: you could be doing this blender blender rendering on the forest moon of Endor, followed up by watching Ender's Game and playing Hideo Kojima's Zone of Enders

(I'll admit if isn't really 'quitting' if I keep listing ideas, but they have to go somewhere...)

That Brazilian Guy

15:48

@Burgi The eternal struggle between ~~light and darkness~~ devs and marketing.

Wait. You work for a marketing agency, right? Doesn't that makes you... the enemy?

Burgi

probably

Bob

@bertieb "no"

Burgi

@bwDraco if you move to the cloud and the cloud goes down, how do you keep working?

2

Bob

Because the Blender UI is like a case study of how not to UI

I'm not sure anyone capable of using it is fully sane.

bertieb

@Bob Ahh, but if your name was Bender you might not be considered fully sane (He's been to the HAL Institute at least 2 or 3 times :P)

bwDraco

16:17

lol @ "how not to UI"

"How should I ~~not~~ UI?"

Andy K

cya guys

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi Oh is that a zen question?

Burgi

no

its a genuine question that people who move their entire businesses into the cloud cannot answer

That Brazilian Guy

"The cloud was inside you the whole time!"

Burgi

if you are a one-man band or small company (up to 10 staff), cloud hosting makes a little bit of sense

Mokubai

16:36

@ThatBrazilianGuy That picture annoys me on many levels. Random height people all over the place. They seem to have specifically put short people next to tall ones.

djsmiley2k

17:19

@Burgi The cloud should be treated like building an expandable extension to your house

you don't move out of your house into the extension, do you

Burgi

@djsmiley2k a hybrid model, yes. completely agree, but a lot of organisations market it as an all or nothing thing

djsmiley2k

yup

whicvh is dumb]

Andy K

@ThatBrazilianGuy very representative of El Trumpo state of mind

Burgi

keep you files and login/connectivity services local then move email and archiving to the cloud

djsmiley2k

:)

Burgi

17:36

ugh.... a huge dilemma....

The Slow Mo Guys Hit James Corden In the Face

►

rahuldottech

Check out some of my photography here! rahuly.ga/l/#15227764145700

Burgi

its james corden being hit in the face. the downside is it has james corden in it...

rahuldottech

(don't open if you're on a metered connection - website is sorta heavy)

Burgi

who is the girl in the yellow top?

rahuldottech

@Burgi ex-friend. Why?

Burgi

17:38

just wondered if she was one of the many ex-girlfriends

rahuldottech

@Burgi Nah. She was my best friend. Till about a month ago, when out of the blue she decided that she wanted nothing to do with me.

She won't speak to me anymore. I still don't know why, she won't tell me.

Burgi

she fancies the arse off you and you won't go on a date with her

rahuldottech

@Burgi ehhh

idk

djsmiley2k

lol

rahuldottech

Girl in blue top in front of mountains is ex-gf. And current best friend

Burgi

17:40

dude its obvious

djsmiley2k

49 and 52 lol

rahuldottech

@Burgi Nah. She isn't interested in me in that way, and vice-versa

djsmiley2k

So 2.1 has been crying for like an hour after we woke him up

eventually i sit at the computer with him, wondering wtf to do

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k weirdo-wearing-my-specs and lego-minifigure?

djsmiley2k

I hit play on RHCP - Can't Stop.

rahuldottech

17:41

@djsmiley2k Search YouTube for cartoons, obv

djsmiley2k

He's instantly mesmerised

how does music do this

@rahuldottech it's the same guy xD

Burgi

lol

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k lmaoo

djsmiley2k

Now Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man

still works

Burgi

@djsmiley2k born metalhead

rahuldottech

17:43

luk @ me #hottie

djsmiley2k

@Burgi well that's right

he likes Avatar and 5finger death punch

Burgi

@rahuldottech you need to let @Ave know that there are more semi-naked photos of you online ;)

Ave

#illegal

rahuldottech

@Burgi These aren't semi-naked, and I'm pretty sure @ave has... other distractions/interests :P

Ave

but yeah now that we're posting pictures

rahuldottech

17:45

@Ave *waits in anticipation*

Ave

.

@rahuldottech shh no leaking

rahuldottech

@Ave :))

Also, reading c++ on kindle?

asdffgujhn

Ave

C on kobo

rahuldottech

#PDFsFTW

Ave

(it's a parody of this)

rahuldottech

17:46

@Ave AHHHHHHHHHHH

Ave

there's also a variant of that

where I dab on the book

djsmiley2k

Bad Wolves - Zombie (Official Video)

►

Ave

(use.elixi.re/i/f55.jpg)

djsmiley2k

r u dabbing

Ave

yes

djsmiley2k

17:50

:L<

Burgi

@Ave is that you?

Ave

yes

why?

Burgi

not what i had in my head

rahuldottech

@Burgi her gravatar is basically what she looks like

Burgi

i figured

That Brazilian Guy

17:52

@Ave That you?

Ave

@Burgi in a good or a bad way?

@ThatBrazilianGuy yes

Burgi

@Ave you are pretty and you will break many boy's hearts ;)

rahuldottech

@Burgi or girls*

Burgi

same thing

rahuldottech

@ThatBrazilianGuy pliz rate my fotos rahuly.ga/l/#15227764145700

That Brazilian Guy

17:53

I think it's girls, IIRC.

Burgi

hence the breaking of many boys hearts

rahuldottech

ah

That Brazilian Guy

I thought our resident heartbreaker was @rahuldottech

Burgi

true

Ave

@ThatBrazilianGuy yes, I'm a lesbian

rahuldottech

17:55

@ThatBrazilianGuy I still maintain that title, excuz mi

That Brazilian Guy

@rahuldottech Don't be silly, @ave is a happy yellow egg.

3

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy lol

rahuldottech

#AveTheOmlette

3

Ave

@rahuldottech excuse me but did you see my polycule recently?

That Brazilian Guy

Du Fromagge

rahuldottech

17:56

@Ave oh yes.

that was... intense

Burgi

@Ave ugh you kids and your many strange relationships!

rahuldottech

@Burgi lulziez

That Brazilian Guy

@Ave It's... Growing. Spreading. Like a nest. I see it now... If only it was not too late.

Ave

tl;dr use.elixi.re/i/l8s.png

@Burgi I mean

@ThatBrazilianGuy as it grows it becomes harder to maintain and people start falling off

so it doesn't grow lately

mostly internal changes etc

and oh god today 3rd month anniversary with person on left on the image

we had 5 months on april first with the one on bottom of image

Burgi

speaking of weird relationship happenings, sunday night my GF went to bed before me and was so out of it that when i went to bed i woke her up and she looked at me in such a weird way and said to me "where am i?" then a few seconds later she said "who are you?"

jokerdino

18:01

@Ave did it expand?

Ave

@Burgi what happened after that?

rahuldottech

@Burgi DID U DRUG HER

Burgi

it was the look of utter confusion that was so cute

jokerdino

Burgi then came back to his house.

Burgi

lol

Ave

18:03

@jokerdino yes. Someone left us a while ago, and someone is new.

rahuldottech

idk y but im typin so weirdly today but i gues ill keep it up for a while its weird but i lyk it

That Brazilian Guy

@Ave Person on the.left? But all I see is a human and a Kindle. Which one is you? The Kindle? ;P

Ave

@ThatBrazilianGuy I mean on use.elixi.re/i/l8s.png

rahuldottech

@Ave nothing between person on extreme left and extreme right?

Burgi

@rahuldottech she drugged herself because of a cold

rahuldottech

18:03

@Burgi aw

@Burgi ah

Burgi

which she gave to me btw >:(

Ave

@rahuldottech no. they are long time friends etc

person on right wants it, dunno about person on left

Burgi

@Ave she pounced on me and snuggled close mumbling weirdness

Ave

@Burgi cute.

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi PSYCHO BURGI CONFIRMED OMG

Burgi

18:05

:D

rahuldottech

@Burgi u make me jealous

Burgi

@rahuldottech swap you momentary cuteness for a hideous cold

jokerdino

what's the count @rahul?

rahuldottech

I mean... I've not been actively looking for a relationship because 12th grade basically decides your future in India ... but I think I'm open to flings

That Brazilian Guy

You already have a gf, now all you need is some cough medicine and a house.

rahuldottech

18:06

@jokerdino It's weird. IDK what to count and what not to count now. IDK.

jokerdino

@rahuldottech everything

That Brazilian Guy

Count Dracula.

jokerdino

@rahuldottech first, they say 10th, then 12th, then college, then work, then marriage, then kids, their 10th....

Burgi

@rahuldottech pfffft, india is growing. you'll find your niche buying up british companies like all the other indians

jokerdino

I'm learning English because my gf's English

it has been fun

Burgi

18:08

afk, food

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino You're... Learning English? Huh?

djsmiley2k

1. ah ah ah, 2. ah ah ah, 3. ah ah ah

jokerdino

@ThatBrazilianGuy Going slow

bwDraco

phew

djsmiley2k

sup @bwDraco

bwDraco

18:16

Cleaned both toilets and bathroom sinks in this house, as well as the range hood.

Used an unbelievable amount of Formula 409.

And paper towels :P

The range hood. By golly.

All that oil :\

djsmiley2k

meh oil aint so bad

a pain to clean tho!

bwDraco

Ultimately, it's housekeeping. Whether you like it or not, you have to do it.

I tend to do it while my parents are out of the house so I can do it undisturbed.

djsmiley2k

18:35

yup

my wife is sooo bad at it most of the time :/

djsmiley2k

19:05

uhoh

everryone quiuck, type!

hide this

Canadian Luke

19:33

Anyone know how to get the error code from the Printing_admin_scripts as a variable, without editing the original script? %ERRORLEVEL% always seems to return 0

djsmiley2k

@CanadianLuke nope D:

Canadian Luke

Dang... Made myself a kick-ass Powershell script to remove the old print queues and drivers... And I'm trying to format the log to be useful (instead of the default output -.-), but the .vbs scripts don't use error levels!

djsmiley2k

ok now it's making more sense

so you run 'printing_admin_scripts' and it returns 0?

Canadian Luke

Right

Even if I use gibberish for variables

djsmiley2k

thn nope

the script is reporting it finished ok

Canadian Luke

19:38

It echos an error out (i.e. 80041002 means not found)

djsmiley2k

you can't gain insight beyond that

Canadian Luke

Damn

djsmiley2k

other than maybe checking the output, and deriving an error from it

Canadian Luke

Guess it's gonna look like garbage output then

Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.812
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Unable to delete printer driver KONICA MINOLTA 554eSeriesPCL Error 0x80041002 Not found
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.812
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Unable to delete printer driver KONICA MINOLTA 754SeriesPCL Error 0x80041002 Not found

djsmiley2k

if no output = no error

then maybe it's a bit easier

Canadian Luke

19:38

And yet, errorlevel == 0

djsmiley2k

can you check for a printers existance, before calling to delete it?

instead of just blindly trying to delete every printer ever?

or redirect the output as you don't care about it anyway?

Canadian Luke

Then I'm running the script many times. There's an array at the top that the SysAdmin should fill out to delete only the selected printers

One sec, I'll pastebin it

djsmiley2k

should hahah

What's wrong with running a script many times?

for each of this array, do x

Canadian Luke

pastebin.com/FcDwiwAp

It goes through and runs the commands correctly, but the output is useless when you have multiple printers

djsmiley2k

If ($LASTEXITCODE -eq 0x80041002) {
    Write-Host "$_ does not exist" | Out-File -Append -FilePath $DebugLogLocation
} else {
    Write-Host "$_ driver removed" | Out-File -Append -FilePath $DebugLogLocation
}

so you're never setting an error code here for example

Canadian Luke

19:46

Right, but $LASTEXITCODE always equals 0... No matter what

The .vbs scripts are located in %WINDIR%\System32\Printing_admin_scripts\en-US on all Windows 7+ computers

Those scripts, which I need to interact with, are not exiting with codes other than 0

djsmiley2k

run it with no arguements?

Canadian Luke

Try it on your computer

djsmiley2k

ah ok

so you never get If ($LASTEXITCODE -eq 0x80041002) { being true?

I can't test it haHA

C:\Windows\System32\cscript.exe //H:CSCRIPT

C:\Windows\System32\cscript.exe //H:CSCRIPT

ffs

CScript Error: Can't change default script host.

@CanadianLuke how do i echo out the $lastexitcode on cmd?

djsmiley2k

20:06

34

A: ERRORLEVEL inside IF

Try using setlocal enabledelayedexpansion at the start of your batch file, and !ERRORLEVEL! inside your IF. This seems to work for me: @echo off setlocal enabledelayedexpansion dir nul echo %ERRORLEVEL% if .1.==.1. ( urklbkrlksdj - not a command echo %ERRORLEVEL% echo !ERRORLEVEL! )

seems it's a weird bug/known issue

groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.scripting.wsh/…

> 07/11/2001

> It is very difficult to use CSCRIPT.EXE in command files, because CSCRIPT.EXE sets ERRORLEVEL to ZERO for both script syntax errors and for un-trapped object errors (for example, ADO errors).

Therefore, when calling a script with code such as the following:

Yup, cscript is a pos. thanks microsoft.

Canadian Luke

20:53

OK, so I see the links you posted, but I don't follow how I can use that in Powershell

Ben N

22:47

@CanadianLuke Might it be easier to check whether the output text of the VBS script contains that error code?

Canadian Luke

23:04

Hmmm... I'll give that a go!

Michael Frank

Wow... talking with HP support using their chat system. The guy is asking me to reply, but the reply box is gone.

bwDraco

23:20

1

Q: My ISP just told me I have a "NAT public IP address" and not "Dynamic public.." ... Is this even legal?

I can't use my PS3 and I can't port forward, and the customer support just confirmed that their DHCP server is actually giving me an address 10 other people are using (NAT). They said they have too many customers and not enough IPs so they NAT their customers, wtf? Can they really do this, what c...

Carrier-grade NAT breaks things in unexpected ways.

Canadian Luke

23:33

@BenN I tried, but I'm not getting any further... See here

Michael Frank

23:59

@CanadianLuke Does prnmngr.vbs even return the error you're looking for when used normally?

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