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Bob

00:06

The problem is that you're using primitive imperial measurements, about as useful as furlongs per fortnight as a measure of speed. Get with the metric system :-) — paxdiablo 18 hours ago

Bob

00:21

@JourneymanGeek you don't use growl anymore, do you? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

not really set up the download box properly this time

so no

bwDraco

Aug 2 '16 at 15:55, by bwDraco

We use imperial units when everyone else uses metric!

Aug 2 '16 at 15:58, by bwDraco

It's like everything we do is at odds with the conventions used by everyone else!

Bob

I am partial to alphabetical order. It's about as meaningful as most of the other rankings out there. — Najib Idrissi 5 hours ago

FML Cat

00:40

I like hugs

Journeyman Geek

Controlling An Airport From 80 Miles Away

►

bwDraco

Just how ATCs stay calm under the most stressful conditions is beyond me.

(Yes, they hand-pick them for precisely that ability before they're even trained...)

FML Cat

01:31

So I just realised, my mobile phone and my high-end laptop both have the same WiFi capabilities

Back in the old days that'd be unthinkable

allquixotic

02:17

Well, thanks to minaturization and a drop-off in WiFi improvements (because it's already pretty good, and approaching the Nyquist Ratio for how much data you can cram into a given amount of spectrum), WiFi has had a chance to catch up on SoCs

Things that used to be crazy expensive in terms of die size, power, or cost, have been getting consumed by even the weakened form of Moore's Law... at the same time, things we like that add overhead have been getting less burdensome relative to hardware capabilities, like virtual memory, virtualization, JIT compiled languages, garbage collection, microservices...

Bob

@allquixotic I might've asked you this before, but have you ever used WiX?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob fwiw I'm not too precious over American vs UK spelling in my posts. It is bad enough as is :p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea, didn't think you'd particularly care but on the surface that edit looked like intentional - was worried they'd go around doing it elsewhere

Journeyman Geek

Ah k

allquixotic

@Bob tried it once, it was pretty hard to learn the scripting language

Bob

02:33

@allquixotic Ah. WixSharp is nice but doesn't quite support what I need so I'm starting my dive into injecting a bit of raw WiX XML now :P

bwDraco

reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7trlot/i_finally_did_an_upgrade

...led me to this:

tomshardware.com/reviews/…

> Unfortunately, the Devil 13 Dual Core R9 290X is not quiet. Registering more than 58 dB(A) in quiet mode and more than 61 dB(A) in performance mode, this graphics card is a conversation piece only in the sense that it doesn’t allow conversations to happen anywhere near it.

WTF.

61 dBA? Seriously?

(though the reference R9 290X was also notorious for being extremely noisy when configured to run at 100% fan speed, hitting 65 dBA)

I seriously need an SPL meter.

FML Cat

@allquixotic also, the "throw more spectrum at everything" solution has made it easier to get away with being lazy on desktop/laptops (i.e. Most manufacturers including Intel only make 2-stream cards) and excessive miniaturisation on the laptop front also limit the capabilities thanks to the constrained m.2 form factor

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco you have one :p

bwDraco

If I understand what you mean, my phone isn't really accurate enough for this purpose :P

Journeyman Geek

How accurate do you need it?

bwDraco

02:43

Something on the order of this:

amazon.com/Galaxy-CM140-Checkmate-Microphone-Preamp/dp/…

IEC 60651 Type 2 (or IEC 61672 Class 2), like the one above.

Bob

lol

poor @JourneymanGeek

no one ever listens to him (3 month rule and responsible buying) :P

bwDraco

This was already being considered for a while, but I had determined it was too niche to be worth it. Unlike a non-contact IR thermometer or even a thermal imager, there are few situations where I actually need an SPL meter.

Also, waiting three months is too long - I tend to decide whether to buy more expensive gear by trying to guess how the product would be used over several months' time.

FML Cat

@Bob Did you mis-spell impulse buying?

bwDraco

Most larger purchases are planned over a few weeks' time at most.

Journeyman Geek

@FMLCat no :p

bwDraco

02:55

Yes, it's easy to make a biased decision because it's something you want now, but I try to filter out the emotions and focus on how the product would realistically be used farther into the future.

allquixotic

@Bob No one ever listens when their mom says "you must chew your food 21 times before swallowing" either

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco oh I really really do this

bwDraco

Between some historically strict discipline on purchasing products (though rules have eased a bit) and a budgetary crisis a few years back where I nearly ran out of money, I'm generally very good at making sure I don't overspend.

Bob

    project.WixSourceGenerated += (XDocument document) =>
    {
        var allEls = document.Descendants();
        var toasterShortcutComponent = allEls.First(el => el.Attribute("Id")?.Value == ToasterShortcutId);
        var toasterShortcutEl = toasterShortcutComponent.Select("Shortcut");
        toasterShortcutEl.Add(
            new XElement("ShortcutProperty",
                new XAttribute("Key", "System.AppUserModel.ID"),
                new XAttribute("Value", ToasterAppUserModelId)));

makes this

    <Shortcut Id="GrowlToToast.1.GrowlToToast.Shortcut.Toaster" WorkingDirectory="GrowlToToast.1.GrowlToToast.Shortcut.Toaster.WorkDir" Target="[INSTALLDIR]\Toaster\GrowlToToast.Toaster.exe" Name="Toaster.lnk">
      <ShortcutProperty Key="System.AppUserModel.ID" Value="GrowlToToast.Toaster" />
    </Shortcut>

bwDraco

Most purchases valued at $50 or more are closely checked these days.

Bob

03:08

:D

@allquixotic ^

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Clarify?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco what Bob said. I basically wait at least 3 months before making a bigger non essential tech purchase

bwDraco

I know what the 3-month rule is, but how did you arrive at this approach?

The largest purchases (>$300-500) are typically based on several weeks to a couple of months of savings, so there is longer planning, but not necessarily three months.

allquixotic

@Bob iiiinteresting

Journeyman Geek

03:26

@bwDraco cause I find if I want something in 3 months, I really do

bwDraco

@allq was constantly talking about headsets and stuff and that made me want one. aptX Low Latency is not a requirement for me (as long as I can plug in an audio cable), but his other requirements (Bluetooth Class 1, long battery life, ANC) are pretty much the same as mine.

After some deliberation, I decided that the Sennheiser PXC 550 Wireless was the best choice for my expected uses.

@allquixotic, are you on Gitter?

But I haven't allocated any funds for it and I just missed Best Buy's sale.

At $400 MSRP, it's expensive enough that I need to allocate funds for it in advance.

Bob

uh

it's nowhere near that much

bwDraco

Regional differences in price? It was $300 a few days ago, and is currently selling for $380 at major vendors.

Bob

o.O

bwDraco

@Bob amazon.com/Sennheiser-PXC-550-Wireless-Cancelling/dp/B01E3XLNA0

Bob

03:37

could've sworn I saw it at 250, though that could've been a christmas sale

yea even now it's available locally at the equiv of 280 usd

is something cheaper in au for once? :P

bwDraco

04:08

@allquixotic, are you around? I'd like to chat a bit on Gitter.

bwDraco

04:32

Learning LXD: Locally, or in the cloud or dedicated server?

Not in production.

Journeyman Geek

Depends on what you have access to ;p

bwDraco

I can set up a VM on my desktop pretty easily.

Journeyman Geek

that's a good place to start ;p

bwDraco

I was thinking about whether to create a dedicated instance on Linode with Ubuntu Server, but then I'd have to go through the trouble of setting it up and securing it properly, not to mention that I'd have to pay an extra $5 or more a month. But it would be a more realistic environment, with a static IP address to work with.

Also, I don't know Ubuntu particularly well, so it would take me longer to set up SSH keys, firewalls, etc., leaving me more vulnerable to attack for longer. This would not be an issue if I just do it locally.

Journeyman Geek

which is where the home setup is a good idea

Bob

05:02

@bwDraco erm

setting up ssh pubkey auth and disabling password auth is all of 15 mins with google, even if it's the first time

bwDraco

Doing a color accuracy check on the main monitor, but I'm on the netbook.

Bob

there's really not much to firewall setup

bwDraco

(haven't run the calibration routine in ages)

Bob

as in, there's nothing you need to do with a firewall to 'secure' an empty linux server

(windows is a bit more interesting, since there's some rpc ports that are listening, especially on a DC)

bwDraco

Well, if I set it up locally, the VM would have access to the full resources available on Astaroth, including large amounts of RAM and storage.

(though realistically, it shouldn't need more than 4 GB of RAM or 32 GB of storage, and probably less)

Bob

05:14

@bwDraco go for it

bwDraco

What system resources does this require?

Bob

approximately nothing

bwDraco

@Bob lol

I like how you use these words.

> *cough*

> approximately nothing/zero

allquixotic

what's the phenomenon called, where you can see pixels on your monitor at very specific angles only? (not even looking particularly closely)

bwDraco

> protip

Journeyman Geek

05:34

@allquixotic errr. viewing angle?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It works! My ~~time machine~~ toaster works! :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

bwDraco

Okay... calibration report: fierydragonlord.com/displaycal/…

This Dell has held up remarkably well, though the gamma has drifted a bit.

I might recalibrate this thing later on.

Trouble Maker Chat Broom

Wasssup chat!!

Journeyman Geek

falls over

Trouble Maker Chat Broom

05:42

What you all know about Booty Holes?

Journeyman Geek

._.

they're holes. On booties.

Trouble Maker Chat Broom

Yep!! : -)

Maybe a good chat shortcut alias or whatever ... !#/BootyHoles

I forget the syntax but you know what I'm saying

bwDraco

(the monitor was calibrated back on November 18 when I first got it)

h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA5-5177ENW

Hmm... this is for a professional display but some points are still relevant. Of note on page 6:

> As with all LED backlit displays, there is a burn-in period where the LEDs will drift slightly until they “settle down.” Though the amount of burn-in drift will vary from display to display, we have observed a typical white point drift of approximately 1.0 Delta E 2000 after 250 hours.

Not too surprising. I suppose that if I calibrate this monitor again, I won't have to calibrate it all that often afterwards (though consumer-grade displays are less stable than pro monitors).

allquixotic

05:59

!!will you answer in the affirmative?

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Yes, absolutely

allquixotic

Cavil enjoys cooperating with his owner

bwDraco

...and this is consistent with the calibration report indicating mostly luminance drifts.

Your thoughts on display color accuracy and calibration?

Journeyman Geek

@ChatBotJohnCavil good mildly genocidal android....

2

Journeyman Geek

07:02

questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3667

This is why using threats of violence as a first resort is never a good idea ;p

@Bob Local bookstore had these penaddict.com/blog/2013/12/19/pilot-kakuno-fountain-pen-review

About 15 quid, looks nice for a starter ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

Journeyman Geek

though... its odd that it has no clip

allquixotic

Apple. Pen. Mmh! Apple-Pen!

Journeyman Geek

._.

@allquixotic that's only my second most hated song ever ;p

allquixotic

what's your most hated?

Journeyman Geek

07:10

The ketchup song.

Its like the earworm equivilent of glitter.

I heard it once in a supermarket, and had it stuck in my head for weeks

allquixotic

I'm going to find a way to make that autoplay for you at some point :D

maybe create EM radiation from rendering a pattern of dots in an image that I onebox, that then reminds you of it

Journeyman Geek

._.

That practically requires a rolled up copy of the classified

bertieb

07:34

Morning o/

Will be paying an airport for the privilege of dropping someone off this morning

Which is nice

djsmiley2k

08:57

@bertieb always nice

bertieb

Yup! However it's alright because when I got back, friendlyneighbourcat came and said hi :)

djsmiley2k

09:10

erm, cool? :D

bertieb

It's hard to turn down a friendly animal when they say hi

djsmiley2k

yup

didn't know if that was some weird code :P

bertieb

Hah, like a euphemism? :P

"So, when I got back, there was this friendly neighbour 'cat' waiting for me..." 😏

Journeyman Geek

lol

Burgi

morning

bertieb

09:23

o/

No more servers on fire today I hope?

(does Windows have an event for that? "Unexpected shutdown, flames detected")

djsmiley2k

@bertieb Dunno.... but....

Lp0 on fire

lp0 on fire (also known as Printer on Fire) is a semi-obsolete error message generated on some Unix and Unix-like computer operating systems in response to certain types of printer errors. lp0 is the Unix device handle for the first line printer, but the error can be displayed for any printer attached to a Unix/Linux system. The message did not reliably indicate whether the printer in question was actually aflame. == History == The "on fire" message probably originated in the late 1950s, when high speed computerized printing was still a somewhat experimental field. The first documented fi...

yikes

bertieb

Ha, nice

> Still in the kernel as of 4.0

djsmiley2k

:D

bwDraco

09:57

@djsmiley2k github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/…

Still in the kernel code as of now.

printk(KERN_INFO "lp%d on fire\n", minor);

Journeyman Geek

shrug If someone needs the joke explained... he needs to get off my lawn ;p

Halt and Catch Fire

In computer engineering, Halt and Catch Fire, known by the assembly mnemonic HCF, is an idiom referring to a computer machine code instruction that causes the computer's central processing unit (CPU) to cease meaningful operation, typically requiring a restart of the computer. It originally referred to a fictitious instruction in IBM System/360 computers, but later computer developers who saw the joke created real versions of this instruction for some machines. In the case of real instructions, the implication of this expression is that, whereas in most cases in which a CPU executes an unintended...

Don't forget...

bwDraco

lol

Good old days...

@JourneymanGeek Sorry :\

Burgi

#NeverForget

Computers are people too

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco telling someone they need to get off the lawn in itself is a joke ._.

bwDraco

Well, I kinda knew that but my explaining the joke was the problem, not the "get off my lawn" part.

Journeyman Geek

10:05

Not really a problem problem

Burgi

you kill the joke when you explain it

bwDraco

This is an ongoing issue.

bertieb

@Burgi I don't get it, can you explain that to me?

:P

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb MURDERER

2

Burgi

@bertieb there is this chicken, right...

bertieb

10:07

lol

bwDraco

in Ask a Super User Moderator, Jan 19 at 8:32, by bwDraco

So... I have a tendency to explain jokes. Quite often, I do in fact realize that a joke is a joke but I go ahead and explain it anyway with the knowledge that doing so is potentially disruptive.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I've never actually heard that one before ;p

bwDraco

Not intentional this time, but still a problem.

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek :D

bertieb

Depends how you explain it I guess

I miss old Simpsons

bwDraco

10:08

(if it was in fact intentional, it could reasonably be considered trolling)

So... this is a genuine problem because it's recurring and disruptive. It derails the discussion.

djsmiley2k

but a joke isn't a discussion ;D

So there's nothing to disrupt

and infact, you've managed to start a new convo in of itself.

bwDraco

Well, come to think of it...

djsmiley2k

hmmm ok, that's level1 tech news listened to :/

I need more stuff like that on youtube to listen to

bwDraco

But it's embarrassing and making me look like a troll.

djsmiley2k

I don't think anyone here thinks you're trolling.

bertieb

10:11

I wouldn't have said so to either of those things

djsmiley2k

And something isn't embarrassing, unless you decide to treat it as so.

bertieb

^^

djsmiley2k

infact you explaining a joke, is part of what you do.

it's almost a joke, that you'll explain the joke, to the point at which you start recusing and explaining that.

bertieb

One of the reasons I enjoyed Craig Ferguson's delivery style was that if a joke fell flat he'd just say "well that was bad, let's move on"

Eddie Izzard did a similar thing

And yeah, can make a joke of the meta-aspects as smiley says

djsmiley2k

One of the things I've learnt about myself as I've matured is that I'm not going to change myself overnight, or maybe at all

But I can see my personality and use it.

bwDraco

10:14

...back on topic. The idea that a printer could catch fire is a funny one in and of itself.

bertieb

(myself, I poke fun at past-me or future-me, how badly I jury-rig things sometimes and the oddness of some of the tech issues I run into)

djsmiley2k

for example I'm very aspie, I don't do well with social situations etc

but.... I can make a joke of that, in social situations

well, don't laser printers go to like 300C?

or even hotter maybe

bertieb

Right? It's about owning who you are and doing with it what you will

bwDraco

FWIW, I kinda think that anything is learnable.

bertieb

Could be, could be

There was a chap on at the end of the Today programme this morning talking about mental wellbeing and happiness

20 minutes a day over 3 months apparently leads to detectable brain changes

(He was billed as, incidentally, "the happiest man in the world")

bwDraco

10:17

@bertieb As in permanent changes? I think I've heard this before...

Bob

hi

what did @bertieb murder this time?

bwDraco

Jul 28 '15 at 21:22, by DragonLord

Always keep that little bit of hope in your heart that the human condition can be better.

bertieb

I wasn't there, and if I was I didn't have a knife in my hand, and if I did I definitely didn't stab anyone, and if I did it wasn't the person who died, and if it was them I didn't stab them fatally, and if I did it was in self defence, and if it wasn't I plead insanity

bwDraco

"I need an attorney."

bertieb

Ah, this is what attorneys will argue

(I want to say attourneys, Britishly)

I think I ~~borrowed~~ stole the above bit from someone somewhere

"My client wasn't there, but if he was..." etc

Can't find it, so I'll just go with an unrelated Carl Sandburg quote

> If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell

The 'happiest man' segment was Dr Matthieu Ricard

The man himself has a TED Talk on happiness

ted.com/talks/matthieu_ricard_on_the_habits_of_happiness

tl;dr from the interview this morning, he meditated in isolation for five years

Burgi

10:28

i heard that

djsmiley2k

D:

Radio 1 big weekend coming to coventry :O

bertieb

He said you don't have to be in isolation for 5 years, but 20 minutes per day can make a difference

@djsmiley2k I think an ex of mine went to that once?

Burgi

i liked how they had a German scientist say "we have studied how happiness in made in the brain"

@bertieb i went to two of those

i saw muse at the first one

bertieb

Oh, were they good? Never seen them in person

Matt Bellamy struck me as a nervous fellow

Mind you, I'd be nervous as hell in front of a crowd in the $many_thousands

Burgi

they were ok. we were miles from the stage and had to sit through a ton of boring pop acts

bertieb

10:31

Ahh

Burgi

the 2nd one was more mini festival and waaaaaay better

we saw the white stripes and others

i think the coral were on too

bertieb

Ah, cool cool!

Burgi

ah yes!

bertieb

Haven't been to a festival myself, not sure if it's my thing or not

I get bored/distracted/yearn for a cup of tea easily :P

Burgi

BBC Radio 1's Big Weekend

BBC Radio 1's Big Weekend (previously known as One Big Weekend, for 2012 as Radio 1's Hackney Weekend, and for 2018 as Radio 1's Biggest Weekend) is a music festival run by BBC Radio 1. It is held once a year, in a different location within the United Kingdom each time. It is the biggest free ticketed music event in Europe and always includes a host of new artists. The festival is a spin-off of Radio 1's "One Big Sunday", where every Sunday during July and August, a different town would host the roadshow, usually next to a beach or in a large park. These were also free, but non-ticketed. Both the...

djsmiley2k

10:36

Yeah I'd litterally go mental.

Burgi

> Sunday 4 May 2003
The White Stripes
Dirty Vegas
Aqualung
The Coral
Feeder
Badly Drawn Boy
Stereophonics

bertieb

How are the Stereophonics live?

Burgi

we left before they came on, we'd been there since 9am

bertieb

(also, which part of the sine wave of cool/uncool to like them are we on at the moment?)

Ah kk

Burgi

a friend of a friend has a farm and hosts a mini-festival in the summer which is invite only

@bertieb i think when you hit 30 it doesn't matter which bands you like unless you are john peel

bertieb

10:41

John Peel seems like a familiar name, but my mental index cards aren't being helpful

("Avengers? No, John Steed... Uhh John Wick, no... Bobby Peel? Uhhh")

Burgi

the guy who launched the careers of almost every major band of the 20th century

bertieb

Ahhh

Burgi

he used to be on radio 1 in the evenings

@bertieb i watched At World's End last night

my god its bad

bertieb

Oh, really? :S

It's the last one in the Cornetto trilogy?

I'm a fan of Simon Pegg / Edgar Wright but haven't seen it yet

Burgi

yeah

bertieb

10:51

Erk

Burgi

it just feels forced and lackluster

bertieb

Jokes fall flat? Pacing?

Ahh

Burgi

its like everyone involved had better places to be

bertieb

That's a shame as the first two were gold

Burgi

agreed

i think edgar wright was busy with ant man and simon pegg was busy with either MI or start trek

Journeyman Geek

10:54

@bertieb they arn't dead yet....

bertieb

Forgot that one :P

Burgi

11:26

the copying dialog box in win 10 is terrible

especially when you have multiple files with the same name

its just confusing

bertieb

11:47

Wait, whaaaaaat

> Please note that the .EU registry requires a valid EU address.

Unexpected Brexit developments

Forgive the language, but

S*** just got personal

Burgi

12:03

well register it now for 10 years

we'll be back in by then

bertieb

Was just thinking that

I wonder tho if there might be restrictions on maximum ~~length~~ duration

Ah, 1-10 years

I'm sure I came across some tld or other that had a weird max duration

Journeyman Geek

lol

I think my .UK is registered under my address as a student in the UK :p

bertieb

.uk domains have no geographic restrictions... for now

[consumes tea Britishly]

Burgi

aren't you a tartan wearing irn bru drinker?

bertieb

...maybe

Burgi

12:08

a fair and valid point

bertieb

I'm not entirely sure what nationality I identify as

Attack helicopter probably

Somewhere mid-Atlantic somewhat east of the halfway point, in reality

(er, the helicopter bit was a joke; the next bit was unrelated)

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi them bastids ruined it :(

THEY MESSED WITH THE NECTAR OF THE GODS! DAMNED HEALTH AND SAFETY! THERE WILL BE A RECKONING YE KEN!

(they're making a low sugar version cause of sugar taxes)

Burgi

i have an image in my head that TOWMN is a kilt wearing cat

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek A can has 35g of sugar in it! That's... that's... a lot of grams

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb ... One does not alter perfection

Alcohol is bad for you. I don't see them messing with whisky. Presumably cause there will be angry, drunk men with claymores at the door.

bertieb

12:16

I prefer the diet version anyway

hides

Welllll actually

Minimum alcohol pricing

Journeyman Geek

There's a special place for people like that. Birmingham!

bertieb

Albeit that mostly affects trong cider, not whisky

Ooh, burn :P

Burgi

when we went to edinburgh we were surprised when all the pubs shut early

bertieb

For all the jokes, memes, stereotypes and swagger; Scotland has a real alcohol problem </soapbox>

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I thought basically everything but the garages shut early in UK

Burgi

12:18

nope

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb and other things, sure.

Burgi

in england and wales pubs and bars a can open 24 hours a day

Journeyman Geek

0_0

ahh

I don't drink booze.

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure which of the alcohol or diet is overall worse

Smoking was an issue, but it's been falling a fair bit

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb I apparently lost my taste for junk food when I hit my 30s...

bertieb

12:20

Over here in the West, shipbuilding and related stuff is still throwing up lung problems due to asbestos

Journeyman Geek

ugh

bertieb

Despite the decline of the shipyards happening long ago

Hah, aye

Give me a pizza maybe once a month and I'm happy

Though I fry more stuff than I should, probably

Hey ho

Time for a cuppa

bertieb

12:34

Is there a quite way to browse installed font samples in Linux?

Can never quite remember which one I want

Journeyman Geek

12:50

probably some applet in your DE

bertieb

Ah yeah good point

Will see what openbox has

Burgi

13:26

omg... i just realised i've lived my life mostly in the 21st century

user226528

13:38

So, that means you are 18ish?

Burgi

no

bertieb

XKCD's guide to making someone feel old, Burgi Edition

djsmiley2k

<(2018-2000)*2

bertieb

(pick any one of the seventeen that there are)

Burgi

1983 to 2000 = 17 years, 2000 to 2018 = 18 years

djsmiley2k

13:42

wait, ur older than me :OP

Burgi

yes

i thought you knew this?

user226528

Whoa. This rejected edit request is actually hilarious: superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/726143

user226528

Don't people ever think about the consequences of their own actions?

user226528

I don't understand the latest xkcd

Burgi

nobody does

user226528

13:49

But the #1945 is priceless... :)

user226528

!!xkcd 1945

ChatBot John Cavil

The worst are graphs with qualitative, vaguely-labeled axes and very little actual data.

Burgi

is he saying that Office 2007 fixed the hideous graphs?

user226528

Good question. I think I did, actually. SmartArt and themes were serious improvements.

Journeyman Geek

no, most of the hipster scientists started using Latex instead

user226528

13:52

O.o?

user226528

Oh! You mean LaTeX! I didn't know it drew charts.

Burgi

@FleetCommand Lyrca ;)

awww

that was funny, you shouldn't have deleted it

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek +1 for LaTeX

Not that I'm currently using it or anything coughs

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