Root Access

allquixotic

00:12

sounds like a non-PSW UPS

Bob

morn

Ben N

Hi!

bwDraco

00:32

@allquixotic Yup.

Journeyman Geek

02:16

eh that's sneaky.

So, in wolfenstein: TNC, after the main campaign, there's a series of "assassination" missions set in varients of the same level. It designed in such a way that you can only really get to the last guy if you grind, and you only unlock the last guy if you finish the rest, and even if you get all the minigame you need to unlock the assasinations right... you'd be a few short

Its fun still, and I probably might go for 100% so I'll be playing through the missions anyway....

Evil

03:22

Hello. Is it good place to ask about backup of rapidly disconnecting pendrive issue?

Journeyman Geek

I'd go with the main site

Evil

@JourneymanGeek Oh, I meant to ask about on-topicness

Journeyman Geek

oh, certainly on topic

Evil

thank you

Journeyman Geek

07:16

man, that last wolfenstein mission was... actually pretty intense. Even if for some odd reason they didn't use the main elements of it anywhere else.

Journeyman Geek

07:40

hm

0

Q: Building a vulnerable Linux is using LFS

I want to create a intentionally vulnerable os as my college project.. I'm planning to build it using LFS. What things I should take care of when building the os from scratch in order to make it vulnerable... If there is any useful links please share.. Thanks in advance

Too broad?

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek I'd say so

allquixotic

08:48

Magic E (Look & Read)

►

Michael Frank

09:22

@JourneymanGeek I watched a couple "all cutscenes" videos on YouTube for that game... It looks legitimitely INSANE.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank it is

djsmiley2k

i felt like i slept well last night

until i got up

and now feel like i forgot to to sleep last night :/

Bob

09:49

hi

user226528

10:00

Hi.

user226528

Today, one of my old answer got one downvote. A few hours later, as if in retaliation, it got two upvotes.

djsmiley2k

sup bob

user226528

10:13

sup @djsmiley2k? By the way, how is your username pronounced?

djsmiley2k

knackered

dj smiley 2 kay

user226528

@djsmiley2k Since you went into the trouble of spelling out "K" into "kay", I suppose "dj" is not pronounced "dee jay". Right?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek travel.stackexchange.com/search?q=all+adults+here :D

user226528

Okay... The starred messages list seems to give me a good idea as to what has been going on: There was a great deal of talk about security and the notion that it can be circumvented with drugs and a $5 wrench. (Doesn't the drug cost $500?) And Burgi has talked about two of his favorite subjects: Alcohol and sex.

Bob

@allquixotic speaking of cheap phones, boost.com.au/shop/boost-luna

djsmiley2k

10:42

@FleetCommand yeah it is but i felt that was obvious

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand lol

DavidPostill

10:57

Oops:

> Barclays has admitted it has a “known” technical problem that is resulting in thousands of letters containing pin numbers being sent out in the post alongside new debit cards.

Journeyman Geek

11:11

@FML not any more.

Journeyman Geek

11:31

._.

I fat fingered some of my music collection....

and that got replicated to the local backup before I could do anything about.

Grabbing it off the network backup but zis is why I have 3 copies...

and I probably should have the copy I use as the 'master'

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Someone I knew once used TagScanner's "Cut all Tags" on all his music collection and then "Paste all Tags" after adjusting the pasting parameters. Wrong tag went to wrong files.

user226528

He was having a fit when I urgently told him: "Don't panic! You are running Windows 7! Everything is okay".

Journeyman Geek

0_0

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Writing 0_0 means you've never heard of Shadow Copy, right?

user226528

I ran Shadow Explorer, pulled up the latest Shadow Copy and told him "This is your computer as it was three hours ago. Get an external hard disk drive" (he had many!) "and start recovering things where you last had them." And he had moved things around quite a bit.

Journeyman Geek

11:37

ahh

shrug

Reasons? ;p

That disk's pretty much constantly written to

user226528

So was his.

user226528

But those last set of Shadow Copies weren't overwritten.

Journeyman Geek

....

actually bvckup dosen't actually delete files

it just renames them...

oops

anyway the files are copied over now ;p

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Too bad. Shadow Copy is the most effective thing for recovering overwritten files. That's why I was sad when it got discontinued in Windows 8.

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand I kinda use these as an opportunity for testing my backups ;p

DavidPostill

11:45

@JourneymanGeek Backups are useless if replication is faster than the human :)

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill eh, true!

But I wanted those to be instantish

since they're fast

what I should do is backup to a local external HDD, and replicate out

rather than backup to a NAS, then replicate back

user226528

Replication is not backup.

Journeyman Geek

(I had reasons for the old setup)

user226528

It is merely redundancy.

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand I do full system OS backups to a NAS, and some media files get synced around.

user226528

11:47

So, your music are now intact?

Journeyman Geek

sure

user226528

And that means you can revive the "fat-fingered" ones?

Journeyman Geek

sure

the NAS copy's only replicated every day

user226528

Just out of curiosity, what software?

Journeyman Geek

bvckup2 for files and replication over smb

veeam for system backups

(yeah, there's probably free things that do what bvckup does. It does give me a ton of flexibility, and is relatively reslient)

user226528

11:50

I have an archive of software installers that I need to keep in sync between my laptop and PC. Bvckup2 couldn't do it because it is uni-directional and I wanted bi-directional. So I went for WinMerge.

Journeyman Geek

ah, I need unidirectional

else, btsync should be fine

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand What? Why isn't replication (copying a file somewhere else) not a form of backup?

> Backup involves making a copy or copies of data.

user226528

@DavidPostill Backup is also a form of insurance against accidental deletion and accidental bad changes.

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand I kinda always have one 'canonical' source of stuff. The dumb thing is me actually using it as the copy I 'work' on

user226528

@JourneymanGeek "Btsync"? Google is somehow finding a lot results for Resilio instead. I don't know why.

Journeyman Geek

11:52

@FleetCommand they changed names

I don't use it that much cause I don't need what it offers me that much

I had it in one incarnation of the torrent box to transfer files, but I just grab it with cyberduck

(mountain duck seems interesting, but eh, I don't really want to spend the money on a licence yet. Which is slightly silly)

user226528

It seems Resillio works over the cloud, i.e. the files are synced over the Internet.

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand The main difference is that a proper backup can create multiple time stamped copies of data so you can restore to a particular point in time. Replication doesn't do this, but it is still a kind of backup.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill in this case availability's important. I'm never deleting anything explictly

DavidPostill

The Differences Between Backup and Replication

Journeyman Geek

backups manage themselves, music never gets files removed, only added.

DavidPostill

11:56

@JourneymanGeek I know, I was responding to @FleetCommand

Journeyman Geek

(if it wasn't 100gb or so, I'd consider going back to optical media. I think my first backups were... 2 cds worth, grabbed off I donno kazaa)

132gb at the moment ;p

DavidPostill

I don't do automatic backups mostly because I don't have any local data I can't live without. I do manually replicate local data I somewhat care about regularly to other storage devices which get rotated offsite.

At the moment that works for me (I've never lost any data), and when I can afford it I will implement a more robust solution.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill I could live without, its only I donno, 2 decades of music ;)

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, I have more than 2 decades of music as well. Stored in at least 4 locations, one offsite. I don't often add to my collection ... :) And I still have the original CDs for all of the stuff I really care about so I can rip again :)

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill ah, quite a lot of my early stuff's my brother's

I've offered to do his collection when I have time, but he seems oddly reluctant.

I mean, his collection can't be as embarassing as mine :)

Phase

12:18

Sorry to barge in but could I ask a question relevant to an issue I'm having atm? Whenever I opened file explorer, it would crash when I right clicked a file in it. I downloaded a shell thing, and now I've found that it's an iCloud context menu that was breaking it. But NOW I think the reason for that is because iCloud throws an error about a missing .dll, but installing the relevant c++ distributable hits me in the face with "can't install, already on computer".

What do?

DavidPostill

@Phase That looks like a question for the main site ...

Phase

Yeah it's just that the nature of stuff like this is that it's likely to not be resolved by the immediate suggestions, and idk about over here but on other stackexchanges they tend to forbid comments for extended discussion

Journeyman Geek

(remind me again why having a chat faq is a bad idea? ;p)

@Phase essentially - if its a question, it belongs on the site. If its someone complaining about something, its fine. Its one of those things cause... random people barging in asking questions kinda works badly cause... its never one question

user226528

Backup is a subject whose basic deciding characteristic is qualitative instead of quantitative.

user226528

Periods, numbers, chain length, size, file number, fragment number and literally everything about it is decided by a qualitative factor: What is my definition of information usefulness threshold.

Journeyman Geek

12:32

@FleetCommand "I dun goofed. I undun goofed. I should adjust my workflow so I less goofed."

Weta Workshop - Blade Runner 2049 Miniatures

►

(cause while it wasn't a commercial success, I love this movie)

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand "What is my definition of information usefulness threshold." The my says it all. Only you can decide that. Closed as opinion based :)

djsmiley2k

stab apple?

user226528

@DavidPostill Oh, I see. You are not aware that "qualitative" means "The my says it all. Only you can decide that. Closed as opinion based." (Or does it mean something else in British English?)

user226528

There is also another word for it: "Subjective". (Antonym: "Objective")

user226528

Of course these words already have different use cases.

DavidPostill

12:50

@FleetCommand I am well aware qualitative means (being a native english language speaker).

@FleetCommand See the words personal and individual in the definition? That means it's what you think, not somebody else. And that makes it opinion based.

Journeyman Geek

ehh

I think we're overexamining it ;p

user226528

@DavidPostill Exactly. So, why do you seem to disagree with something here? I think I remember having greeted you with "how may I disagree with you today" but it was in a distant past.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek lol. I'm bored so I suppose I'm trolling :)

user226528

Okay, that explains it. ;p

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand I'm not exactly sure what I'm disagreeing with any more :)

user226528

12:59

LOL

DavidPostill

I can't find any decent question on SU to answer ...

Journeyman Geek

I hit 22222 on MSE today

DavidPostill

Hahahahahahaha

Facebook slaps 'adult content' ban on... a robin redbreast card: Artist stunned after social media giant brands innocent images as 'sexual'

> It looks like we didn’t approve your item because we don’t allow the sale of adult items or services (eg sexual enhancement items or adult videos)

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill that's a bit of a booby

user226528

13:19

I have a feeling that StarCraft creators didn't exactly know the meaning of "transcend".

user226528

Is it me, is there really something wrong with this sentence: "The Xel'Naga who forged the stars shall transcend their creation".

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand No, if you use the definition that "transcend" means "go beyond" or "surpass"

Hmm.

"Transgender lessons for two-year-olds: Drag queens drafted into nursery schools to teach children about sexual diversity"

user226528

I remember in Devil May Cry 2, the antagonist wanted to transcend all creation.

user226528

Still, that's developed by the Japanese; I always assumed Blizzard employees are native English speakers.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill eh sounds like something in the mail.

I don't think 2 year olds have the same prejudices adults have ;p

DavidPostill

13:28

> Most children by age 2:

Begin to understand simple time concepts, such as "now," "later," or "a few minutes." (The distant future or "forever" are too complex to conceptualize at this age.)
Follow simple requests, such as "Put the book on the table." But two-step instructions, such as "Wash your hands and come here," usually cannot be completed.
Recognize basic symbolism, such as nodding the head for yes or no.
Often want to do two incompatible things at the same time. For example, a 2-year-old may want to go out in the snow and wear his or her slippers.

And they are are expected to understand sexual diversity?

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill no need to?

user226528

Oh, great. In the old times, there was discrimination through segregation of social roles and now there is discrimination in the form of anti-segregation efforts.

Journeyman Geek

also drag queens != transgender

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek It was reported there, but that doesn't mean it's not happening ...

Journeyman Geek

Lots of drag queens are, well, dudes who like wearing womens clothing.

DavidPostill

13:32

@JourneymanGeek I am well aware of that. But I expect a 2 year old wouldn't be ...

Journeyman Geek

(also, the mail loves to publish these... moral outrage pieces, aimed at demonising certain parts of the population their core readership dislikes)

DavidPostill

dragqueenstorytime.co.uk/about-us is the "company" involved

> We aim to capture the imagination and fun of the gender fluidity of childhood, while giving children a glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role model. By providing spaces in which kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions, we allow them to imagine the world in which people can present as they wish...

Bob

I pop into chat and ... I have no idea what's going on here

drag queens?

Journeyman Geek

hah Bristol. <3 Stay strange bristol stay strange.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek isn't that quite literally the definition?

Journeyman Geek

13:37

@Bob which isn't the same as transgender folk.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it's not, no. but I meant that more in a s/lots of/all/ way

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Agreed. I'm 100% behind diversity and LGBT... but aiming this stuff at 2 years olds?

Journeyman Geek

ah lol

@DavidPostill presumably there're some seriously liberal parents who are fine with it?

DavidPostill

I guess so ...

Journeyman Geek

or its simply a way to get visibilty

user226528

13:39

@DavidPostill Well, I am not behind anything that amounts to a more complex form of "Don't stuff beans up your nose kind of training". Every mother knows that if she tell her infant not to stuff beans up his or her nose, the child will do it the first opportunity.

Journeyman Geek

(ugh, this is one of those topics. I have friends who're trans. Some of them I really like, one of whom I might sock in the face. Attempted moral outrage annoys me)

DavidPostill

My point is that a 2 year old's brain and cogitative development is not capable of understanding such concepts ...

"Recognize basic symbolism, such as nodding the head for yes or no." does not mean they can understand the symbolism behind what kind of clothes people wear ...

user226528

No argument there.

user226528

I am just adding that there is no suitable age.

user226528

The DSBUYN training is wrong.

user226528

13:46

Tell someone: "Don't think about elephants". What do you think comes to his mind? Elephants, naturally. Because you just gave a message about it.

user226528

Politicians use this tactic a lot: "I told you a hundred times, Person X is not a bad person!" And by doing so, the actually give the impression that Person X is a bad person. "There is no smoke without fire."

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand lol

> Many materials will smoke before reaching their ignition temperature. If oxygen is low or absent, fuels will smoke heavily without igniting. The smoke that results can be extremely combustible and will burn violently when oxygen is introduced. This is what causes backdrafts in structure fires.

user226528

LOQ

user226528

Yeah, making fun of proverbs was once one of my favorite pastimes.

user226528

Making fun Sherlock Holmes-like arguments in the films too.

user226528

13:52

Oh, wait! You are a Brit, actually. Do you worship (adore greatly) Sherlock Holmes too?

DavidPostill

Not really.

user226528

14:14

@DavidPostill You know the TV series called Sherlock? It is an adaptation of Sherlock Holmes but happens in our time. Once I pointed out one of the mistakes in one of Sherlock's conclusion. There was a British fan in auditory range. He wanted to cut my head off.

user226528

The others, on the other hand, found my findings funny and contributed their own, which were funnier.

user226528

I still remember the funniest one. And my own.

user226528

Well...
I guess you'd never have been a mod here if you were a cut-the-head kind of person.

Journeyman Geek

I'm more of a "plausible deniability" sort myself

user226528

Hehe

user226528

14:23

Well, that was something no dog jokes can be made for.

DavidPostill

14:36

@FleetCommand I only cut the heads off spammers ;)

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand well, dogs know where the corpses are buried.

djsmiley2k

14:54

a5ruuuuggggh

gender != sexuality

2 yr olds have a gender, they don't have a sexuality

that's my voice as a parent/.

Burgi

15:32

o.O

Bob

Darby

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k They may have a gender but at that age they are probably not aware what that actually means.

Tom Wijsman

Education doesn't have to be "aware" or "understood" in order to have effect. If someone warns me about something, but I don't understand what that person is trying to make me aware of, I can still end up remembering the warning when I'm more aware and the time is right or perhaps too late for it to be understood.

People cannot be "aware" or "understand" something if they are never introduced to it. So, at some point you will have to introduce them. At such young age, there will be a small effect but it's probably so minimal that the event alone isn't going to change the awareness or understanding of the child. Repetition however could have an effect, even if it's just opening up the child to the existence of it. Not necessarily to what it means or understanding it.

DavidPostill

15:49

@TomWijsman The topic under discussion seems to have nothing to do with "warnings" about gender unless I am very mistaken.

Tom Wijsman

A warning is a more violent form of information, just to give a clear example.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek would this count as blatant under-13? :P (cc @DavidPostill)

Tom Wijsman

Most children are already unconsciously introduced to gender at home and at school. A father and a mother, brothers and sisters, (girl)friends, teachers and so on. They however aren't unconsciously introduced to people from the rest of the gender spectrum (or the lack thereof) or LGBTQI+ or other folks. And that's what a company like that is trying to change, even if they don't have enough resources to do it with enough effect.

DavidPostill

To be honest if someone in drag had come to read me ~~fairy tales~~ stories at the age of 2 I suspect I would just have been very confused as to what was happening. Having said that at the age of 58 I would still be confused as to what point exactly they were trying to make if it happened to me today.

Tom Wijsman

Confusion is all that is needed to pave a way to change your mind.

DavidPostill

15:58

@TomWijsman Yes, but where does a drag queen fit in the the LGBTQI+ spectrum? That is reinforcing yet another stereotype.

@TomWijsman That's part of the problem. Does a 2 year old need to change their mind about their gender?

Tom Wijsman

If a child were born in a LGBTQI+ world where cross-dressing is the norm, that child would just as well be confused if an individual would ask him to dress as M or F alone unlike the (girl)friends.

3 hours ago, by DavidPostill

"Transgender lessons for two-year-olds: Drag queens drafted into nursery schools to teach children about sexual diversity"

DavidPostill

@TomWijsman That was a headline in a newspaper. I'm trying to make the point that that doesn't teach anybody anything about diversity especially 2 year olds.

Tom Wijsman

@DavidPostill They are a part of transgenders (T) and/or queers (Q), the rest depends on what they decide to associate with.

@DavidPostill I don't think this is about changing mind about gender, but I think it's about starting off a person's life with a broader mind about gender.

Taking the headline literally, yeah, that isn't going to work; it would've been better if it read "from the age of 2", or something that doesn't make it a "one lesson and they know it" event.

And drag queens don't represent transgenders, that's like having a nurse teach something that only a doctor would teach...

parents.com/parenting/gender-neutral-parenting

DavidPostill

16:21

@TomWijsman My point exactly. Anyway time to change the subject ;)

djsmiley2k

16:57

@DavidPostill My 3 yr old daughter knows she's female, like mummy, and has the same body parts as mummy

her brother is male, and has the same body parts as daddy, which she doesn't have

so yeah, they can be aware

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yeah, but that's different from LGBTQI+ awareness ;)

As a parent how do you feel about "We aim to capture the imagination and fun of the gender fluidity of childhood, while giving children a glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role model. By providing spaces in which kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions, we allow them to imagine the world in which people can present as they wish..." aimed at young children?

djsmiley2k

17:25

People in burqas scare my daughter as she thinks they are masks, so no idea

djsmiley2k

17:50

@DavidPostill cept in society, we have 'norms' that everyone is expected to stick to

and that seems to ignore that fact, for a start.

i'm just..... annoyed at the world lol

I try to teach my daughter to accept everyone as they are

jokerdino

Good morning

djsmiley2k

sup @jokerdino

DavidPostill

Good $timeofday

jokerdino

no internet for 2 days. The ISP folks fixed it today. :)

It's been a monthly occurrence lately.

djsmiley2k

:/

DavidPostill

17:56

How did it feel? Did you have withdrawal symptoms?

jokerdino

Yeah, lost my pennies.

djsmiley2k

over here that's going to be come something they have to pay for

tho the amount is pitiful

jokerdino

I don't need no money. Just give me my internetz.

djsmiley2k

well yeah

jokerdino

Didn't help that it was the weekend.

djsmiley2k

17:59

i think that any isp failing to deliver, consistantly, should have to provide local 4G usage, to the same speeds as they are meant to provide ;D

jokerdino

haha. But they only do isp and no mobile network.

just fibre optic broadband isp

oh so that meta post about scamming people was from this chat room?

djsmiley2k

/me goes to look at meta

I erm, need to get a copy of win7 to install, to do the upgrade to 10, via the accessability thing

but i have no idea where to get one that isn't utterly virus infested mess D:

jokerdino

@djsmiley2k meta.SE 303097

@djsmiley2k D:

djsmiley2k

pagen ot found

DavidPostill

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Q: How to respond to people in chat who claim to do illegal work?

This is referring specifically to chat, as opposed to posting, as we have guidelines over scope and each site can determine if a topic is right for that site. Chat is amorphous to some extent, although the Be Nice policy does extend into all areas of the site. There's a recent experience, I don'...

discussion chat behavior be-nice-policy

I'm struggling to find the conversation in RA though ...

jokerdino

18:12

@DavidPostill chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=41071717#41071717 ?

DavidPostill

@jokerdino Yeah, that could be it. But doesn't quite fit with "The user announced that they did something illegal for a living"

jokerdino

oh

Then it probably wasn't this room.

CoderCat

18:27

how can I have it so that you need a password to print from my wifi printer

DavidPostill

@CoderCat Erm, you already need a password to connect to your wireless network hopefully ...

CoderCat

oh

good :)

how can I screenshot windows that are running as a different user but still appear in my use profile

hitting print screen or alt+print screen does not capture the window

some background processes/services are running as a different user

hmm I have just connected the printer to the wifi network but cannot see any option to add a apssword for the printer

is 'wifi direct password' of any relevence

im in the printer settings web page but cannot see any settings regarding a print password

ah done it nm

hmm now mspaint can see the printer but nothing comes out of the printer tray

CoderCat

19:17

nm

Michael Frank

20:09

@CoderCat snipping tool?

DavidPostill

20:54

lol. I missed this when it was posted :) gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/166112826468/…

Hennes

A copy of win7 is easy. It even was downloadable from a legal site.

At least, most win7 variants

But why upgrade it to win 10? Why not start clean with win10?

djsmiley2k

@Hennes they have vista

sorry, I guess I should start at the begining

Vista on a laptop, it seems to be infected with something, and anyway needs a hdd swap

but they have no install media because 'yey sony'

Hennes

I only just dropped into the room. Alsso vistr. I kind of heard about tht. Like ME it is supposed to exist, but never spotted in the wild

djsmiley2k

yup, it was a time a few days ago i spoke about it

or yesterday, my brain hurts ;D

DavidPostill

@Hennes it still is

djsmiley2k

21:06

@DavidPostill but don't you need a key to install it?

Hennes

Windows support for vista has ended though

Assuming you have the time I would just spent Eur 30 and buy a clean win10 install

With DVD

djsmiley2k

where can you get Win 10 for 30 euros?: /

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yes

Hennes

It takes some searching to find a known legal source of it for that price: but yes

djsmiley2k

still, at todates rates that's still more than they'd happily spend

they are like 'oh we can get win7 for £15 if that's what we need' and I'm just like 'facepalm'

Hennes

21:09

Win7 for #15 now and win10 next year (as in, in a few months)?

Not worth the time

djsmiley2k

yeah exactly

but at the same time they won't buy win10 atm I don't think

Hennes

I paid € 31,00

djsmiley2k

/me sighs

Hennes

So, not Eur 30, but very close

From digitallicense.nl

And for win10 pro

djsmiley2k

yeah that's twice the price they could get win 7 for

Hennes

21:11

support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search?alpha=windows%207

Ok, windows 7 should work till 2020.

14-1-2020 though, and 2017 is all but over

djsmiley2k

I coudl tell em to pick that up along with a hybrid drive

Hennes

So if win7 is installed it will need to be replaced in about a year.

djsmiley2k

bear iun mind right now they have vista.

iit's not like they follow the current news in tech :P

Hennes

Qua drive: How much data do they store?
I dumped my old 80GiB SSD in my sisters laptop. 2 years later it is still 80% free.

djsmiley2k

I'm just kinda stuck helping them out, because in laws.

Michael Frank

21:13

@djsmiley2k /r/microsoftsoftwareswap

You can upgrade for free by claiming you can't see or something... It's a loophole to get a free copy of Windows 10.

Hennes

Being current is not needed. Getting OS and app updates is.

djsmiley2k

Right now, 138Gb used of 320Gb drive

but taking lotssssssss of photos

@MichaelFrank you can't, because there's no upgrade path from vista

Michael Frank

@djsmiley2k Didn't you say Windows 7?

Hennes

If you get a new disk, why upgrade? Even when I did the win7-> 10 upgrade it was:
1) win7
2) win7 -> win10 for the key/reg
3) Wipe all and do a clean win10 install

djsmiley2k

No, i said they can buy windows 7 appently cheap

(I have no clue who they getting it off)

so I'm like.... it's prob pirated anyway

@Hennes That's my plan, except right now we don't have win 7 :/

Hennes

21:16

You just need a legal key.
As for isos. Ask someone here to SHA256 their images

djsmiley2k

@Hennes yeah, so unless I can find a key for like £1, I can't afford to help em,,

/me goes to glare at random win7 systems he has incase any have a non-oem key on them

Michael Frank

Anyway, just get a slightly dodgy key from microsoftsoftwareswap and forget about it. ;)

Hennes

I got iso of win7 and win7 SP1.
Not much upload though

djsmiley2k

@MichaelFrank that site appears thyat no one is just 'giving' them away?

wow I have a XP key XD

Hennes

And a dell ISO which auto activates in dells with factory shipped vista

I raise you a win98SE key

djsmiley2k

21:19

:O

Michael Frank

@djsmiley2k No, you need to buy the keys. But they're all very cheap.

Hennes

Seriously though, after OAM systems shipped with a CoA and a OEM install/firmware activated windows. Those CoA often work.

djsmiley2k

@MichaelFrank please see note that I have £1

Hennes

Hey, a folder Vista Ultimate x32 SP1

x32... sjees. 20 years old or so?

Michael Frank

Might I suggest... Linux then?

djsmiley2k

21:21

a windows 8 latptop

@MichaelFrank hmmm no

Hennes

If you want I can upload a vista, win7, win8 or win10 iso. But you will have to come up with a clean key

djsmiley2k

I'll just tell em 'you can buy windows 7 and try and upgrade it <Shrug>' and they'll be sad and maybe hate me for not caring enough

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k I hope it's not one of the round ones ... ;)

djsmiley2k

I can't use the key i got from my old laptop when i upgraded that to 10, right? XD

Michael Frank

Wait... didn't you say you had 30 euros?

djsmiley2k

21:22

No, i said they'd buy win7, and told me it's a 'real retail copy'

but.... i'm doubtful

So I could tell them to get a hybrid ssd + win7

Hennes

Whwen in doubt either:
1) Dump the DVD and use your own.
2) CRC/SHA256/... it

djsmiley2k

oh yah agreed

I mean the key might be dodgy :P

Hennes

Does it happen to be Dell/HP/any_other_well_knowns_OEM laptop?

Because in that case the right vistra reinstall without a key might work fine. (And legal).

Just glue shut the ethernet and USB ports to help virus proof it.

DavidPostill

21:49

@Hennes And remove the wireless card ... ;)

Bob

22:00

morn

Ben N

Hi!

Bob

@Hennes that only works if you use the oem disc or install the oem cert manually

(granted you can usually find the certs online)

Michael Frank

22:35

On the topic of starred messages... If you're going to hit someone with a wrench to get a password, what are the drugs for?

ToxicFrog

So that you have to hit them less.

bwDraco

22:59

Bleh. Just had to throw a bunch of money on a new Xbox One Controller after dropping it and smashing the sync button.

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