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lol. I've gotten shocked before. What dosen't kill you hurts like a redacted

and earth cables are also there for fire safety

you see plugs without earth because those go to double-insulated appliances

7:25 AM

also @Rahul2001 that plug looks bloody dodgy

@JourneymanGeek naw, fire safety is handled by the neutral and the fuse

strictly speaking, earth is not so important if you have an RCD on that circuit

but... india

I'm not convinced RCDs are a thing there

The extension cord allows three pin plugs, but itself doesn't have ground!

@Rahul2001 that is what we like to call illegal

unless you have an RCD/GFCI on that circuit (or socket) - IIRC that's an acceptable exception

(it replaces the earthed case with low-current fast-trigger detection of leakage)

there's a name for those plugs btw!

Cheater plug

A cheater plug, AC ground lifter or three-prong/two-prong adapter is an adapter that allows a NEMA 5-15P grounding-type plug (three prongs) to connect to a NEMA 1-15R non-grounding receptacle (two slots). They are needed to allow appliances with 3-wire power cords to plug into legacy ungrounded (two slot) receptacles found in older buildings. The use of such an adapter avoids the need to replace receptacles, but is potentially hazardous if the grounding tab is not connected to electrical ground. A safer and more reliable alternative identified in the US and Canadian electrical codes is to replace...

actually, that makes me wonder

@Rahul2001 do you use MCBs or old-timey fuses?

From experience - India uses a mix of pre war british plugs and europlugs in theory

and mostly oldschool fuses

@Bob MCB

7:31 AM

@Rahul2001 seeing what I've seen, ehh, this seems dodgy as hell

@Rahul2001 hm, not bad. do you have an RCD anywhere?

they're usually either a single shared one, or each MCB can be combined with an RCD (so each circuit has their own)

I don't like anything I see.

@Bob this?

@Rahul2001 An RCD looks like a MCB with a test button on it (usually). do you have a photo of the fusebox/panel?

Wires seem rather thin (granted I'm used to UK style overengineered wiring), colour codes look unusual,

7:33 AM

@Bob uploading ...

@Bob ^

@JourneymanGeek WTF IS THIS!?

No ground, wires a tenth of a millimeter thin!

lol

No insulation!

Seeing what I've seen this ~~seems~~ is dodgy as hell... ;p

@JourneymanGeek dammit, I don't think I have funds for a decent extension chord... This was lying around

@Rahul2001 looks like MCBs with no RCD

I'd not connect an earthed device to a 2-wire on those circuits, personally

7:38 AM

@Bob yeah.

@Bob Hm, okay

Let's see if I can get a decent extension chord

@Rahul2001 looks like typical chinaboard :P

I like the (pricey) Xiaomi boards

nice thick copper bars

lol

@Rahul2001 tbh I'm looking at this from a safety-first Australian perspective

perhaps it's normal for India, idk

British Plugs Are Better Than All Other Plugs, And Here's Why

And we use british style wiring here

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@Bob Well, I want safety too! ;P

7:41 AM

(also, I've gotten an actual shock and BOY did it hurt)

@JourneymanGeek ow

@JourneymanGeek seen that

slhck

8:07 AM

@bwDraco Thanks for filling it out! Just curious: why did you assume I support net neutrality? (I do, I'm just not aware of where I excplicitly stated that.)

8:26 AM

@slhck You didn't, the questions just seemed to kinda pertain to that topic

slhck

@Rahul2001 Ah. Well, yeah, the research kind of sits in between ISPs and video providers. As an ISP, you want to be able to manage traffic in a way that makes all users equally happy – especially on mobile networks –, and as a video provider, you don't want the ISP to know what your users are consuming, or interfere with your own video streaming algorithms.

ISPs like “we can be much more than dumb pipes”

8:45 AM

@JourneymanGeek I did that twice. Once while plugging something in, once while playing with a disposable camera flash capacitor

the cap hurt worse

9:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek @Bob @Rahul2001 If you think there is a possibility you might be shocked then make sure it is the back of your hand that will be shocked and not the palm side. An electric shock makes your muscles contract so if the shock is to the palm side you can't let go. If the shock is to the back of your hand the reflex is to make you hand jump away from the shock. :)

@DavidPostill haha

@Rahul2001 Of course it is better to test for a current first :)

I'd rather a test pe.

I'd rather a test pen

See how this guy is using the back of his hand?

@DavidPostill ah yeah

Van der Graaf Generator "Killer"

9:05 AM

And continuing the theme with some music:

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@DavidPostill oooooh

@JourneymanGeek I'd rather a proper contact multimeter. Test pens are notoriously unreliable.

@DavidPostill Yea, I don't usually go testing bare wires with my hands :P

9:33 AM

Oh hello, you're alive

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11:04 AM

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

Friend just made this:

I'm laughing my ass off

Yes, that's my shirtless pic -_-

Okay, not really for this site

o.O

11:24 AM

Should I cool it or should I blow? 🎶🎶🎶

Um yeah

/me wibbles

i don't know whats occuring

No shirtless pics unless you're a dog

getting ready for 1 yr old bday tomorrow

especially if you're a minor.

or female

or human

11:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek haha k

:(

wtf

@JourneymanGeek but... abs!

:D

:38793847 Oh dear. Now I've seen it I can't forget it. I've deleted it for you :/

Okay, got a decent power strip

11:44 AM

@Rahul2001 We've had enough stripping in here for one day thank you ;)

@DavidPostill ;D

sorryu

12 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

No shirtless pics unless you're a dog

@DavidPostill lol

12:14 PM

@DavidPostill .... pretty sure that pun is worse than anything I've seen here ;p

12:28 PM

:)

@JourneymanGeek Are you going to punish me for my bad punchlines? ;)

wonders if one can find a rolled up newspaper the size of a large skyscraper.

hahahahaha

12:48 PM

@JourneymanGeek networking help!

If I use a 22 meter long Ethernet cable with a regular router for internet and stuff, is it likely to work okay?

... yes

ethernet cat5 is good upto 100m iirc

1:24 PM

@Rahul2001 depends. what's the cable rated to, and is it actually properly constructed/rated?

@djsmiley2k I've found that assuming cat5(e) is... not reliable

@Bob cat5e

> is it actually properly constructed/rated

Will go get the jacks put from a shop right now

I've seen far too many "cat5e" cables that don't live up to their rating

including one that only had two pairs in it...

Expensive and we'll made cable, I know that

1:27 PM

basically, try and find out

@Bob Schneider Electric

@Rahul2001 Make sure the jacks are put on correctly and the cable is tested afterwards.

if you're putting on jacks, you've already added one possible place for people to mess up

(I make cables at work. they... are a bit of an art to do right.)

1:43 PM

@JourneymanGeek Exactly.

@Rahul2001 You need to make sure you have the right tools

@DavidPostill dosen't necessarily need to be a keystone jack

You can just plug either end. Still need tools tho

scp-wiki.net/scp-3709

(not a creepy one ;p)

firefold.com/tools/hand-tools/punch-down-tools

@JourneymanGeek they were ... pretty easy :P

Opposable thumbs, hands ext...

try doing it with paws...

Complete instructions with nice pictures

1:53 PM

We have a bunch of these at work

@DavidPostill will do :)

@JourneymanGeek Does that tool do the punchdowns as well as stripping the cable? ;)

....

I'd kick you if I could. I would.

Avery

that's not the dog way to do it

Lol

1:57 PM

@JourneymanGeek It was actually a (heavily disguised) serious question.

@JourneymanGeek used those in the past. Don't have one though

@DavidPostill but yeah, it strips down the cable cuts it and punches down ethernet plugs...

2:19 PM

FuzzyBoots

2:53 PM

Heh. Speaking of Backups... I have a Seagate Backup Plus 5 TB harddrive to back up my 2 TB harddrive. I figured it would be more than enough, but I'm getting messages saying I'm at 90% capacity. I suspect that what might be happening is that Windows and Seagate are both backing up data. Should I turn off the Windows backup and just let Seagate handle it?

@FuzzyBoots Vote to Close as "Opinion Based". You need to provide more information and probably ask a question on the main site (Super User)

FuzzyBoots

Ah. I figured it would be a fairly simple question and, as Opinion Based, was more suited to chat.

BAYMAX

I am getting black patches when i open some new tabs or some times automatically in my Chrome browser?

any solution to this ?

will be very much helpful!

3:26 PM

@BAYMAX old machine?

Try a more lightweight browser.

That happens when machine is low on resources

3:40 PM

@JourneymanGeek I have one in my shed for some odd reason

I've only ever made liek 5 cables

and it wasn't used then :D

@DavidPostill it's a crimper

4:46 PM

Guys!

Live joint screening of The Iron Giant in an hour or so here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/58631/…

Avery

5:06 PM

not a fan of scifi.se, but thanks.

5:37 PM

Guys!

Doing some investigation into a scammer here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38797087#38797087

Read transcript, feel free to drop in

(cc @ave)

7:39 PM

wow

put my case back on pmy pcx

8:39 PM

@bob @all now that I have server set up, I can run the chatbot if you wish... I'll enjoy doing so :)

Non-headless or headless whichever

@Rahul2001 Reading now, live investigations like these are really cool

satibel

@NotDog the sorcery is made with unicode/chat formatting abuse.

Good night people.

@ThatREDACTEDGuy the guy ended up not giving me the actual URL

He gave it to @Avery

@ThatREDACTEDGuy ah cool

Avery

8:49 PM

I have it~

I should go to sleep, have class in a few hours, but my sister isn't letting me

Wonderful life, this

@Rahul2001 You don't have your own room?

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I don't, no. Ever since parents got separated we've been living in a small construction of just two rooms

And am at grandparents' house tonight anyway

@Rahul2001 Been there. For 20+ years. It sucked. (not having my space or privacy, or a room)

@Rahul2001 Wait, you have classes ON SUNDAYS?!

@ThatREDACTEDGuy chem coaching in the morning for a couple of hours

Sis wants me to sleep outside without air conditioning

37°C

Fun.

8:53 PM

@Rahul2001 37 at night? Oh, how lovely.

@Avery cool. Let me know if you find something interesting

allquixotic

github.com/dotnet/corert/issues/4168

9:11 PM

@ThatREDACTEDGuy how'd you manage?

I need sleep, man

And she won't let me get any

allquixotic

@Rahul2001 TWSS

@allquixotic -_-