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@DavidPostill omg
 
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02:11
@Boris_yo What who what where what?
Why would a song in spanish be a hit in Brazil?!?!?!
Never heard of it until right now (despite the 1.7 billion views)
@DavidPostill Secret service: we're so secret you can find us on Google Maps!
Is there a way to manually mount a drive in windows 10 that shows up in Disk Management but will not allow you to assign a drive letter?
I've scoured google pretty well and can't seem to find anything that works...
02:29
@logical123 Do you mean that the method must not allow assigning a drive letter, or that you don't want to assign one.
 
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03:55
Hi there, I have a hardware question. Currently it's marked as on hold on hardware recs. I want to make sure I post it in the right place (either hardware-recs or SuperUser) and asked the question appropriately.

https://hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/7491/how-do-i-buy-build-my-own-rudimentary-version-of-a-28-30-inch-surface-studio-net

Can someone advise?
Bob
Bob
04:17
@JourneymanGeek? ^
Okay, wtf
How am I going to break up with her if she refuses to even pick the phone up? "I can't talk right now, I don't have time"
Haven't had a decent call with her in like a month
@KimStacks I don't think that's on-topic on SU or AU
Where would be a good place then, @Rah
Sorry @Rahul2001
@KimStacks It seems to be too localized for most sites.
oh... that's sad. Okay I will try creating another question instead. Thanks guys
The only one that seems possible is Electrical Engineering, but try their meta first
04:29
@KimStacks you could possibly split it into multiple questions
They don't like shopping questions, and this feels like one
That said, I think I have a solution for you
@Rahul2001 Even better :)
If I understand correctly, you don't require the machine for anything very resource intensive
In which case, a raspberry pi might be what you are looking for
@KimStacks
Pretty sure you can find giant touchscreens for it
Bob
Bob
@GypsySpellweaver e-eng doesn't do consumer hardware
04:33
And Linux is probably better for your OS requirements anyway
Bob
Bob
and a rpi isn't really powerful enough for a lot of web browsing these days
@Bob look at his question.
Bob
Bob
what you're looking for is known, generically, as an all-in-one
"only a web browser to fill up forms"
Bob
Bob
@Rahul2001 you'd be surprised how heavy some forms can be
04:35
@Bob hm. I guess. But the modern pis are pretty decent in performance
@Bob Not surprised. Even though their help page talks about mods to CE's. Many of the specialized sites seem to have become professional niches that don't want armatures or enthusiasts involved. :(
Bob
Bob
@Rahul2001 nope. RPi3 is around Atom-level performance.
It'll work but you'll notice lag here and there, and it really depends what you do.
General web browsing? You'll notice lag on page loads.
Simple web form load? Should be fine.
Complex web form load? I can tell you from (work) experience testing on a quad-A53 tablet that there's the potential for lots of lag. Like, 8+s loading a page that would take 1s on a modern desktop.
@GypsySpellweaver I think they try to welcome amateurs but you're expected to be working at a fairly low level.
Plugging two pieces of kit together is rather unrelated to e-eng.
But the bottom line is - if you're going to be spending probably $1k+ on the monitor, at least spend ilke $200 on the hardware attached to it...
04:51
@Rahul2001 Very workload-dependent. If it's amenable to parallelization, great, that quad-core SoC can flex its muscles. If single-threaded, it's going to be rather slow.
@Bob Fair enough
Hopefully, the next RPi will get Cortex-A55 cores at higher clocks.
Pretty sure large all in ones exist with touch screens
Thanks @Rahul2001 and @Bob for your advice. I did look at raspi 3 and was delighted to notice raspi 3 provide virtual keyboard as well. @Bob you sound like u have a lot of knowledge about hardware. if we are talking about complex forms, what would be ur minimum requirements for the hardware?
> you sound like u have a lot of knowledge about hardware
haha
05:28
@bwDraco didn't they say they weren't planning a new RasPi anytime soon?
@Avery Haven't really paid attention to RPi news.
05:42
...TIL NVIDIA Pascal Architecture graphics cards are self-overclocking, and the mere installation of a liquid cooling system onto a stock card will improve performance without ever having to touch the clock speed controls. anandtech.com/show/10325/…
Bob
Bob
@KimStacks Depends how much lag you're willing to put up with tbh. But outside a few specific scenarios you probably won't see those forms.
I'm talking forms with complex JS and like 50 fields.
(yes, they exist. welcome to the wonderful world of bureaucracy)
I for one am still stuck waiting to get the green light on Astaroth.
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco not A57? :P
@Bob A57 is too power-hungry for this application.
Feb 26 '16 at 9:44, by bwDraco
In any case, ARM completely dropped the ball with the Cortex-A57. I can tell you from first-hand experience that running just one A57 core and one A53 core at full load makes the phone get hotter than pegging three A53 cores.
The RPi3 already has thermal problems.
Apr 3 '16 at 1:25, by bwDraco
https://www.loverpi.com/blogs/news/92213185-raspberry-pi-3-important-notice
Apr 3 '16 at 1:25, by bwDraco
> While conducting our internal engineering load tests of the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B, it became evident that the Raspberry Pi 3 REQUIRES heatsinks. Without them, the board will overheat and experience thermal shutdown, corrupt HDMI signal, and video corruption. SoC diode temperatures are also incorrectly reported lower than actual temperatures. A test of 4 threaded sysbench resulted in the imagery below.
06:21
no root at all
let's wander together.
@Rahul2001 heh, popped out and got a replacement power supply (which I've been thinking of a while
If nothing else, I can leave the smaller original one permanantly in my work bag once I recover it on monday
So I guess I took your advice? ;p
Intel is caught flat-footed by AMD and their Ryzen Threadripper processor announcement.
The X299 launch has been a total mess.
06:41
Can't really say its launched yet. Its been announced, sure...
With respect to the 14-18C Core i9 (Skylake-X HCC) processors, it looks as if Intel never intended to release them in the first place. Intel probably never even planned to use the Skylake-SP MCC 18-core server processor die for a consumer platform in the first place. The Ryzen Threadripper announcement apparently caused Intel to panic.
With respect to Kaby Lake-X, it looks as if this is a response to the AMD Socket AM4 platform letting users start with 4C/4T or 4C/8T and upgrade to 8C/16T later. Intel mainstream platforms have topped out at 4C/8T for many, many years, so this option is meant to give mainstream users greater scalability. CPU upgrades aren't all that common, so spending extra money on an X299 board only to get a 4C/4T or 4C/8T doesn't exactly make much sense. This is just as puzzling a decision for Intel.
Furthermore, the IGP is totally disabled and unusable on Kaby Lake-X, meaning that features like Quick Sync are unavailable. The TDP is some 21W higher, at 112W, all for a slight increase in clocks with no architectural advantage over the mainstream platform processors whatsoever. What the hell, Intel?
07:00
@JourneymanGeek lol
@bwDraco in noob terms, the Kaby Lake-X processors aren't worth it?
Intel never expected a 16C/32T consumer processor from AMD and has always used Xeon LCC dies for the HEDT platform. That Intel is forced to use the Skylake-SP MCC die for a consumer platform, with no specified clock speeds for the 14-18C parts and a 2018 expected release (an unusually long delay between announcement and release), is worrying. It shows Intel went "OMG PANIC" when they learned of Threadripper.
@Rahul2001 Not unless you expect to get a processor with more cores in the near future.
Huh, what do people even do with so many cores?
I donno, most people are probably fine with 2-4
I could use 6C or 8C but that's a "once-in-a-while, can live without it" thing.
'most people' ;p
Most people here are atypical
07:19
16C/32T Threadripper processors will be on the market well before Intel's Skylake-X HCC processors are ready, during which AMD will most likely have an absolute performance advantage for heavily-threaded workloads. Intel is hoping people will buy onto the X299 platform and upgrade later. Also, AMD is expected to price their 16C processors from $849. Intel has no real answer to this.
@ThatRussianGuy Same like Russian song would be a hit in Israel? Heard "Tattoo - All The Things She Said"? Well it was airing like crazy in Israel for a month or so in its time.
Intel was totally caught flat-footed.
07:43
Probably because getting useful work out of a 16/32 core processor in a 90W thermal package without it thermally throttling is going to be hard.
They're either going to achieve it by clocking back the processors to something stupidly low, or the performance will be severely restricted.
Or they go the graphics card route and give it a 300W thermal ceiling and a dedicated on card 1kg copper heatsink.
@Mokubai AMD is targeting 155W, while Intel is going for 165W.
Maximum 1T and nT clock speeds will differ dramatically.
Exactly. Which is why Intel hadn't bothered, that power range is not consumer friendly.
We only accept it in graphics cards because they can go in a slot and come as a combined heatsink/unit combo.
tbh, the place where this may be interesting is the ability to build full powered graphics work stations out of off the shelf commercial parts
I can see several markets where it could be useful, but home/enthusiast it isn't. This is beyond just "enthusiast" stuff.
07:59
Yup
I cannot imagine a consumer desktop use case that routinely requires more than 8C/16T.
That's because there isn't one. And up to this point if people needed more then we have multi-socket mobos which don't need heatsinks able to suck 150W out of a processor.
Okay, so now they can get it in a single package, but you can't say that Intel "dropped the ball" because there wasn't a ball to drop.
People already had the ability to have 16C/32T systems.
There's even a 16C/32T Xeon already, but the thing is that Intel knew who was buying them.
 
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09:16
@Nick Torrenting complete? How's the movie?
I admit that they did a good job at remixing:
 
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Bob
Bob
10:21
hi
10:53
lo
 
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@Bob Yeah, that's what redirected me there.
"It's called electrical tape because it conducts electricity"
Bob
Bob
14:16
Uhhh.
> For Work
@Boris_yo Here too, at the time, in MTV. I bet it was the version in English. Just like here.
14:37
@Bob That makes me cringe for sooooo many reasons.
Bob
Bob
@Mokubai at least it probably wouldn't damage anything :P
I was nodding along for a bit, then... "wait a minute... what?!"
I feel stupider for watching it, so do braincells count?
Bob
Bob
lol
15:02
@Rahul2001 just to make you jealous of the crazy charity shops/carboot sales
15:47
Thanks bob
 
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Intel never even intended to use the full 12 cores on Skylake-SP LCC for consumer HEDT, let alone the 18-core Skylake-SP MCC die.
@bwDraco Can't you create another chat room for those people interested in endless CPU hardware announcements and speculations?
Intel was originally going to leave cores disabled on the flagship processor, and had it not been for AMD, the HEDT platform would have remained at 10 cores.
I suppose I could just ignore you, but that doesn't feel right as then I can't moderate if necessary ...
And you do have other more interesting things to say ...
Can you just tell me straight up that this is disruptive?
...we don't want bad stuff to happen. Being direct can make it blow up.

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17:40
@bwDraco It's not disruptive (at the moment). I'm not so interested in hardware and I find all this stuff boring ...
I made a list of components in PC which has their own CPU and ROM. I included Graphic card, wifi adapeter, USB port, keyboard, not sure about touchpad, hard disk, SSD, webcam, fingerprint scanner(?), what did i miss?
heat sensor, not sure about fan
17:55
@defalt ethernet adapter?
oh yeah ..hehehe.. how i could i forget LAN card
So, I got a volume on usb from powershell "Get-CimInstance Win32_LogicalDisk", and when I disconnected the drive (pulled it physically) the volume and driveletter was still there. Is it just being "reserved"? When and under what conditions is the driveletter released?
18:39
Sep 23 '14 at 1:58, by allquixotic
@DragonLord it always strikes me as fascinating that most of the devices we use today constantly rely upon microcontrollers and other such invisible, embedded ICs that perform important functions, faithfully, and usually are not the cause of product failure
19:01
nod
@bwDraco so it means every component in the PC including fan have their own CPU and ROM for functioning?
@defalt No. A typical PC fan has a "dumb" motor driver circuit that includes some MOSFETs and stuff, but not a microcontroller of any sort. The actual controller, which generates the output power and PWM speed control signals, is usually on the motherboard.
Got stuff to do. Will be back soon.
19:54
@defalt lots of things have IC in them
which are not computers
@djsmiley2k Nice tidy desk ;p
=)
yah it's covered in loads of crap atm :/
stuff being repaired
stuff just hanging around
wife keeps leaving bibs in here after they come outta the washing machine and I'm constantly asking why
@djsmiley2k Maybe she thinks you need to wear one?
20:21
i was having a nice weekend until my mother arrived and complained
Should I migrate this question to SuperUser? Or, should I simply close it and let it rot where it fell?
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Q: Laptop powerbank, AC current

n0tisI want to buy a laptop powerbank which output AC current, in which I then plug the stock charger of my laptop. It it a good idea, or I should rather buy a powerbank that directly output 12v so I can directly plug it in the laptop? Is there a big efficiency difference, or a preferred option?

20:33
i feel it should be closed
but i'm not too sure
OMG, @Burgi is power-drunk on his closing powers! :-o
i haven't closed anything yet :(
@DavidPostill wear... one?
Like that?
20:52
@ThatRussianGuy lol. wrong kind of bib
Why do vacations have to end? Why does Murphy have to hit me with full strength when I come back home?
I return to work tomorrow. Today at 1 AM I woke up to water dripping from my bathroom's ceiling. More specifically, the lamp socket.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay
 
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23:16
@NickAlexeev Not really a good question
Bob
Bob
23:44
hello~
@bwDraco there's also voltage-controlled fans, but same deal

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