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13:00
Cant ever guarantee that =)
Bob
Bob
Then how is it safer than using a single privileged account?
One second system admin's talking to me.
Bob
Bob
It makes sense when you have people directly logging in to the db
But in a website the db password can be a hideously long string
Having one db user per website user is crazy for a public site. Mapping website users to db privilege levels at the webserver won't be made significantly more secure by using one db user per level (keeping in mind that coding errors can happen at the db side just as much as they could in the app)
*shrug* I'm just not seeing it
It also introduces rather right coupling between the db and webapp
13:27
@JourneymanGeek yeah, it sure does! external power, desktop CPU, and space for one or two (?) SATA 2.5" drives?
I guess if Intel integrated graphics are good enough for you, it could turn out to be a nice box... possibly even a console killer with Iris Pro
@allquixotic Or you can break out NGFF/M.2 into PCIe fairly easily it seems
I was looking at it more for the small home server tho
and well
looks like Iris Pro has taken over... people online were saying that the Xbox One GPU is similar to a Radeon HD7850, but due to bottlenecking it runs more like a pre-GCN chip actually
so here's Iris Pro 580 vs. a low-end GCN chip: videocardbenchmark.net/…
outside of my main gaming box, most of my systems are intel integrated graphics
Damn, I must be tired.
@JourneymanGeek you know you're tired when you have to put a pencil next to each message? ;)
quit leaving pencils all over the damn chat!
I wrote internet when I meant intel ;p
@allquixotic pencils are really hard to carry around when you're a dog. But almost like a stick!
13:31
Internet integrated graphics.... hmmmm.... Nvidia GRID GPU on a razer shield?
Whoa you have an iphone @allquixotic?
@allquixotic a full sized desktop processor would be overkill
@JourneymanGeek my first cat used to love to chew through regular wooden pencils... probably felt good on his teeth
@HackToHell I have since the 6S/6S+ release day last year.
13:32
@HackToHell he's had it a while, bluetooth issues on android.
where did you find that out from?
Oh, guess I missed that convo
@JourneymanGeek I have head you people moan about them bluetooth issues !
@allquixotic starwall
because I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it like a dozen times, but not especially recently
@allquixotic stars
13:33
oh
@allquixotic my old bay trail brix could handle 1080p streaming as a client
yeah... so, as a technically-inclined person, I'm not going to just accept random crap as acceptable; my standards are pretty high
if I had ethernet in the living room, I'd totally slum it out and see if I could game at 640x480 on our old and very lovely plasma TV ;p
but even with those high standards, the iPhone does what I want it to do, and I'm very satisfied with it... there is actual functionality behind their glitzy marketing
My laptop can't handle 2k HEVC :'(
13:36
my desktop can't handle 16k H266 :'(
@allquixotic can anything handle 16K?
for that matter can you even get 16K videos? ;p
@JourneymanGeek Yes - four GTX 1080s could do fine, I reckon
kinda like how the 4K pioneers had to use three or four GTX 780 Tis
0_0
really?
Oh, for gaming, sure
to get any kind of reasonable FPS
13:38
My 660 did 4K output
couldn't game on it of course
output != good FPS in 3d rendering
but everyone's talking about video formats ;p
the whole spiel about the 1080 is that finally a single GPU ASIC can smoothly do 4K at high frame rates (60+, depending on the game) with very high detail effects
the 980 can play games at 4K too of course, but get ready for some frame drops
@JourneymanGeek yeah well if the hardware in the 660 supported 4K video decoding, you'd probably be fine... or leap forward in time and decode the 4K video in software with a modern CPU
I doubt Sandy Bridge or Nehalem could decode 4k@30fps H264 or H265 in software and keep up with it
oops
Okay. So after napping a bit, DisplayCAL has profiled and calibrated the main laptop display and it seems to look a lot better. No weird distortion, just slightly warmer than original colors (which is what it should be). Guess software is to blame after all...
13:41
@allquixotic heh. true
i've been sat here wondering why my form tests weren't going through
you know, it's crazy how I feel like my motherboard is not actually all that advanced because it only supports USB 3.0, no Thunderbolt / USB 3.1
The ColorMunki software somehow got the LUT wrong with the darkest colors.
i accidentally left the client address in the code
13:42
@bwDraco LUTs are relative
might have been the wrong one
and in some cases you want consistancy over accuracy
I know it's basically an adjustment to the display's colors loaded by the color management system.
@allquixotic my only USB type C port's in my nuc
they've called client services asking why they were getting emails saying "burgi is great"
2
mega embarrassed
@bwDraco so if the table Colourmunki's using is not what you expect...
@Burgi "cause its true"
I ran a slow calibration using DisplayCAL and the results seem to be much better.
I'll be using DisplayCAL going forward.
13:46
ah!
damnit
@JourneymanGeek clearly not....
:S
@bwDraco heh, great. Now I'm looking at display caliberation gear again :(
@allquixotic the graphics are good but the gameplay is basically grinding
@Burgi the random events are a pain, and I have trouble levelling up...
13:49
i read that levelling up takes about a year!
and there is no quicksave
and the quest NPCs seem buggy!
agreed
not going to get the DLC until they fix the bugs
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I should test that sometime.
Outside has amazing shadows @_@
Bob
Bob
o.O
> 2160p60 10-bit real-time decoding*
> *8-core Intel Sandy Bridge-based or equivalent CPU required
I suppose that means 4 core + HT? Don't think there are many 8-core Intel CPUs around.
@allquixotic ^
13:54
@Bob xeons!
@Bob interesting
Bob
Bob
Dunno if you linked them, but I've definitely seen them :P
Bob
Bob
LOL
I was wondering where this feeling of deja vu came from :P
That tetris one was great too
@Burgi Oh, look up "speech jammer"
14:00
"All this has happened before, all this will happen again"
@Bob i have seen the speech jammer
its where they playback your own voice timeshifted slightly
Bob
Bob
Interesting how much we rely on feedback
Bob
Bob
why do I read youtube comments
> That's what I was thinking, just need to find a way to keep the water out of the enclosure, heck if I had the money and wasn't concerned with the potential condensation I'd have all my computers in a walk-in fridge.
has this guy never heard of air conditioning?
lol
i was almost certain that i had told this recruiter to sod off last week but...
14:13
lol
Anyone got any experience with mini HTPC keyboards like that one but with a backlight/
Bob
Bob
o.O
that looks like one of those old pocket memo things
I still have one ... somewhere ... haven't seen it in a decade actually
Pocket keyboard then
Bob
Bob
Yea, looked like that
I had one of those that I played Tetris on
Bob
Bob
mine had quizzes :P
14:17
Had the ability to send stuff or multiplaer via IR but I was the only kid in the school nerdy enough to have one
that would have got nicked in my school
Calibrating the Acer IPS display.
You had a school?
/lame-jokes-r-us
they have schools in england, yes
14:29
@qwertyuiop in old country, only school of hard knocks. Too poor for hammer, so you mine rocks with rocks.
!!/ping
@allquixotic, the chatbot's down again.
i think he said he was migrating it
15 hours ago, by allquixotic
@DavidPostill probably but I'm migrating to a new box soon
14:45
So the problem is the calibration software, not the display. Average delta E dropped to less than 0.5 on the laptop display after calibration.
Bob
Bob
@Burgi Nah, I don't think he's doing it now. He should be at work :P
Also, I was the last one to log in to that server, three four days ago.
Bob
Bob
Hm. Seems like he's still connected, but can't receive/parse messages again.
Not the first time this has happened. I still haven't figured out how to properly dump PJS output through webdriverio, sooo... not a clue why.
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
Bob
Bob
Eh.
*kicks cavil*
there we go
14:48
!!/info
@bwDraco I awoke on Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:52:40 GMT (that's about 24 seconds ago), haven't done anything yet!
Here we go.
Bob
Bob
Well, yea, restarting tends to... restart.
15:05
lol
do you think flagging cross site duplicates would work?
It just says something along the lines of "must be on this site"
Or are you asking whether it would be a good idea to allow cross-site duplicates?
@Burgi tbh, I don't think its something they thought about when they built the network
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Q: What to do with cross-site duplicates?

lc.What's the right course of action for cross-site duplicates? There are two flavors: A question is posted which belongs on another site and ends up already having been asked there. I can't find an example right now, but it's bound to happen soon if it hasn't already. The same question is posted...

15:15
It was supposed to be 3 sites and a hosted product. Then, well, all the baby stacks
I'd take Robert Cartaino's answer as canonical here since, yanno... SE corporate and all that
@BenN the latter
i'll be honest i'm coming down on "it would be a terrible idea"
@Burgi it looks like a 'unclear what you're asking' question
or a lack of research
i skipped
I VtC'd
oops
15:20
He really skipped that one
I closehammered it
and you covered the comment, excellent
I make it a personal policy to always make sure there's an explanatory comment when I VtC
I try
(also I write all my own comments ;p)
@BenN !
I should probably make a list of canned comments; you wouldn't believe how many times I've typed out "We allow only answers in the answer section. Once you have sufficient reputation, you'll be able to comment everywhere."
15:25
There's a userscript for that ;p
There's an app for that?
probably
kids these days. There's prolly a app for cleaning yerself too.
2
its called ShowR
So the colorimeter is fantastic but the supplied software is utter crap. DisplayCAL is producing far better results with none of the distortion I got with the ColorMunki software, though it takes much longer to calibrate with DisplayCAL.
15:42
Is there anything similar to muzei (as in it allows multiple wallpaper sources) for Linux?
I found github.com/matellis/linmuzei on google but it's apparently just a simple .sh script
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek there's an accessory for that
3.5mm usb fashion sponge attachment
I could totally see that being an ebay listing
(they also love slapping the word "fashion" on everything)
72
Q: Do consumer computers include components that can connect to the internet when the computer is apparently turned off?

CaesarI have seen many claims that devices such as laptop computers contain components that can "connect to the internet" even when the main device is powered off. The implication is that such devices could be backdoored by the NSA or others in order to share private data without the user's knowledge. ...

15:58
@Burgi Are you allergic to penicillin?
@JourneymanGeek I don't have a "newer" Moto G, I have a gen. 1, the only difference is it has 4G connectivity, single slot SIM and a SD slot. (IIRC the Moto G is now at the 3rd gen)
Gosh, I dont understand why people insist on installing winpcap drivers in windows still when NDIS has supported RAW socket capturing with windows even tracing for quite some time now.
It really annoys the terds out of me.
throws his shoe against the wall in the room
!!dave wall
trouts @wall around a bit with a large @Dave!
@DavidPostill no....
16:07
lmfao
it just tasted disgusting
@Burgi And you didn't notice before you started eating it?
no i was engaged in an interesting chat with @Bob and @GuitarShoeDave about web facing databases
Oh yeah, about that conversation. Totally forgot about it between calls.
=)
16:26
Smirk
-4
Q: Crazywife# All my accounts security system truck and phone are hacked

C.McCalluSearch Results for hello i'm a newby to the tech world but i'm having issues with all my accounts being hacked. my ps4 has been reprogrammed and cameras set up in my home. by the wife. need some help or pushed in right direction to take action

@DavidPostill did his wife implement all the code in Crazywife#?
and I mean, from a single man's perspective, the answer is simple: uninstall the .WIFE Framework.
@allquixotic Apparently he doesn't have administrator privileges...
16:30
Uninstall the .WIFE Framework and Crazywife# code won't be able to run. — allquixotic 15 secs ago
@allquixotic i'd install the rollup patch
@Burgi or maybe slow her down with some bloatware or a fork() bomb so she can't spend all her time worrying about the husband
well... a fork bomb of bloatware... :)
16:42
wtf.... my boss is having a go at me for his mistakes...
maybe it was an error to accept this job.
either he or his freelancer edited code outside of source control and uploaded it to FTP
so when i've cloned the repo i've got the old version
@Burgi Didn't boss-1 do that as well?
at the last job?
not that i can recall
@Burgi Or did you already complain about this boss before? Someone made a similar complaint ...
16:51
I've never had a "boss issue"... lucky me?
@DavidPostill yeah
he seems very very reactionary
I miss specific message replies in emails and in verbal discourse >_<
should come up with a new spoken language called English With Indices (EWI)... each time you say something you prepend your statement with a number, which only resets when you start a new conversation with someone different
who is rebecca black?
16:56
lol...?
why did that warning just come up?
@Rahul2001 Friyeeday Friyeeday gotta get down on Friyeeday
> ITS FRIDAY, FRIDAY!!!!!
what
????
Fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun funfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfffffffuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnn *RebeccaBlackBot overheats and explodes*
16:57
turns out that extension caused that
I still dont know who she is
WHO IS SHE
that's because you're not keeping up with American pop music stars, which is perfectly forgivable behavior (encouraged, even)
she is a canadian popstar
her parents paid for her to have a day filming a music video that they put on youtube
it went viral and then it was bought and went on general release
"Friday" is a song by American singer Rebecca Black, written and produced by Los Angeles record producers Clarence Jey and Patrice Wilson. It was released on March 14, 2011, by ARK Music Factory as Black's debut single. The song features a rap verse from Wilson, which was uncredited on the single. Its music video caught a sudden surge of hits after Mystery Science Theater 3000 and Rifftrax comedian Michael J. Nelson called it "the worst video ever made" on Twitter and the song was featured on the Tosh.0 blog. The song's reception was highly negative, mainly because of its songwriting and Black...
17:01
thats the one
everyone try that extension
now
NOW
and then look at this chat
what extension?
8 mins ago, by Rahul2001
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/porkchat/genlcflidccakbiodbnmjnflfnbkm‌​eip
i don't use chrome, do a screenshot
It blocks the links...
17:10
@Rahul2001 That's the worst colour scheme I've seen for a while. :)
21 mins ago, by allquixotic
I've never had a "boss issue"... lucky me?
@allquixotic Yeah, neither did I.
2 days ago, by That Brazilian Guy
All the bosses I've ever had have always been so nice and chill. I am so spoiled, I dread the day I get a regular boss.
joomla is shit
2
@Burgi There are "only" 350 Joomla instances in my workplace.
I don't have to deal with any of them and it's so... relieving.
i need a modal pop-up for that sex party website. all the plugins that do what i need are not free
@Burgi If you have to pay for the plugins it's the wrong kind of sex party :D
2
17:21
its australian.... so.... ;)
 
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18:59
So I finally decided to do the Windows 10 upgrade on my Win8.1 laptop
I used the GWX thing that they were pushing so hard, and it took me to Windows Update, so I waited for a really long time while it downloaded the stuff
Then it opened a new window with a spinning not-actually-progress bar. That lasted for several hours and then was just sitting there doing literally nothing (no activity of any kind)
I gave up, rebooted the machine, and tried with a DVD. That did stuff for a while, then exited and said "Something happened - Windows 10 installation has failed."
-_-
19:14
wow. :/
wifes laptop (win7 -> 10) was seamless
I think I obtained an ISO and a license key from dreamspark
Hmm, I read that having language packs can cause problems. I just removed the two non-English ones and I'm trying again now
@allquixotic I'm scared to ask.
Maybe it also matters that I'm logged in as a domain user but not connected to the domain? I'll start this run as a local user
19:20
how you managed to get in as domain user off the domain, cached creds?
Yep
I'm still rather new to all this domainy stuff.
The last 10 domain logins are cached unless policy forbids it
So if the machine was removed from the domain, you still wouldn't get the trust issue error?
That's correct, you can log into a machine with broken trust if the computer can't reach a domain controller
19:22
ooo nice
I guess they block that at work then
(trust issues are the bain of my life)
How do you deploy machines?
altiris image
With Sysprep, right?
I believe so...
If not, you'll be a Very Sad Person
19:24
:D
we don't prepare the images etc
lots of stuff is outta our hands
Duplicating a hard drive without Sysprepping leaves the machines with the same Windows Update ID, which can cause bizarre problems, especially if you use WSUS
which is kinda why i hate the dang job so much (this is only like 2% of the problems I have with it, but that's a different story)
ah, yeah they sysprep'd then
:D
Speaking of deployment, I have a story involving Candy Crush and Sysprep
o_O
Do go on!
Sysprep refused to run on a reference machine, saying it couldn't "validate your Windows installation"
Examining the setuperr.log file, the Candy Crush app for Windows 10 was installed but not technically provisioned, so Sysprep was very confused
Removing the app (and Twitter too) solved the problem
19:27
@BenN I heard Candy Crush is one hell of a drug and can impair your ability to work.
19:40
Laptop display contrast ratio: 715.1:1.
Windows 10 upgrade failed again, I give up for today
3
Average delta E after calibration: 0.34.
I'll probably use the other display for color-critical work, though.
20:18
Something happened! ... Oh no, something else happened! Something else just happened! Ahhh!
The fact that something happened, happened -- and that recognition of the happening was also a happening, so something else happened!
It's happening all the way down!
mind blown
Turns out the external IPS display has a much narrower gamut (probably due to a lower-quality LED backlight). Sager wasn't joking when the claimed the laptop's panel covered 95% of the NTSC gamut; the colorimeter proves it.
Folks, where is Help->About in MS Word 2010?
20:38
@NickAlexeev click the blue ? mark
Measurements indicated that the laptop display covered 90.77% of Adobe RGB.
@NickAlexeev File > Help will also get there.
@allquixotic It gives me online help (topic search and such). Where's the standard Help->About dialog with version number, acknowledgements, patents, and such?
Calibrated display gamut compared to NTSC (dotted line).
The Acer IPS display covers 89.09% of sRGB but just 64.36% of Adobe RGB.
@NickAlexeev I think you have to customize the ribbon or the quick access toolbar and add the "About" command, then click it
20:48
My concern is that the laptop's display is more easily thrown out of whack in transit, necessitating frequent recalibration.
@NickAlexeev File > Help > Product Information
But display colors on my hardware have never been more accurate.
The laptop's color gamut was every bit as wide as they claimed it to be—but it was in dire need of calibration.
21:06
Maximum delta E on the Acer display is lower, though.
"Dr Simon Hayes found fox cub in his dishwasher at his London home"
A family discovered a fox cub inside their dishwasher after the animal sneaked into their kitchen and curled up inside the machine.

Dr Simon Hayes, the head vet at the Village Vet London practice in Winchmore Hill in Enfield, north London, was left stunned to find the scared cub trapped among the cutlery, glasses and crockery.

The-father-of-three, who has two cats and a dog, used his animal expertise to coax the cub out of the appliance - and he promptly dashed out of the door into Dr Hayes' garden.
aww, poor animal :)
!!/learn foxgofloof <>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AtP7au_Q9w
@bwDraco Command foxgofloof learned
!!/foxgofloof
21:20
So, final calibrated color gamuts are as follows (in CIE xy):
Laptop display:
Acer H226HQL IPS display:
Good panel held back by lower-grade backlight.
21:33
hey
@DavidPostill sorry about earlier
i went and took my concerns to the managing director
@Burgi Oh. What did he say?
i said that i didn't feel like i was fitting in and that i was considering my position
she then said that she has heard nothing but praise of me and that my boss is leaving the company soon anyway
Sounds like you should hang in there ...
she said that she was aware of his.... abrasive and chaotic manner
its a great relief
I can imagine ...
21:40
i thought my boss had told her about the hacked server
turns out she didn't know
i was right about the seat of the pants stuff
but i'm going to hang on a bit longer and see what happens
went round to see my friends new telly baby
which has lead to an interesting question
wtf do babies dream about?
@Burgi My google fu says What Do Babies Dream about?
it can't be much
they have no life experience
"But considering babies' limited pool of experiences and their brains' immaturity, Foulkes and other neuroscientists think they are actually dreamless for the first few years of life."
maybe colours and the "OOT OOT!" noises adults make
"neuroscientists believe REM sleep serves a completely different role in newborns and infants: It allows their brains to build pathways, become integrated and, later, helps them develop language. "
21:51
like in pingu
> Vivid dreams with structured narratives set in at age 7 or 8 - See more at: livescience.com/…
i seem to remember having dreams or at least nightmares at 3 or 4
0
Q: Is there currently a way to host CSV or tab delimited data for helping with database, spreadsheets, or any grid-like applications?

SunI noticed a pattern with Excel and Google Sheets questions that sample data is often presented in non-optimal ways. The data may not exist, only a screenshot of the image requiring someone to build their sample data, or perhaps an ANSI/ASCII type table with data is given. I saw that StackOverflow...

thats odd
didn't they used to appear in a notification bar thing?
@Burgi I certainly have never made this sound to my daughter.
maybe you should start?

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