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17:00
that said, since Apple.SE is not a "beta" site, I usually tell users who ask questions about OS X here that they should request a migration to Apple.SE if the question has been asked a few days ago (or more) without any good responses
thats fair enough i suppose, i'll try to follow that advice
Hanslufta!
17:33
iWoof
!!caat
lol. Read the comments.
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Q: Why are line numbers start with 1 and not with 0

12431234123412341234123Why is the first line in a textfile line 1 and not line 0? In my point of view, the first item should be item 0, and not item 1, also in the line number. And as Programmer, i allways need to fix Off-by-one-Error when the first item is item 1.

18:19
@DavidPostill To a non programmer that would make absolutely zero sense. To a programmer, I guess -1 sense. =\
 
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19:32
Ok guys please help - I need to delete my system drive - fast.
Any ideas?
If I try using the 'rm' command it gives me 'Access denied'.
The thing is that this is a system drive of currently non-operating os.
Or actually a folder with bunch of heavily protected files.
The worst of the worst.
I can't delete them from linux, neither from windows.
@FISOCPP by "delete", do you mean, wipe everything, or just make it so you can start using it again?
And also in the same partition I got another gigabytes of data I need.
So deleting or wiping the partition is not an option.
I need to delete one folder.
'OnlineWindowsImage'
@FISOCPP sudo rm ?
Already tried.
@FISOCPP what filesystem is it installed on?
19:35
Operation not supported.
NTFS
I can try deleting it both from Linux and Windows.
Right now I'm on Windows.
What's the error when you try and delete it from windows?
'Access denied'
@FISOCPP you do know that you have to pass the arguments -rf to rm to recursively forcefully remove a directory, right?
sudo rm -rf whatever
and mount it with ntfs-3g, not some other filesystem
ntfs-3g does not respect access control lists so it can't possibly fail unless you mounted the drive read-only
19:37
It's reading the files without a prob.
I don't know how exactly is it mounted.
then know
run mount and check what filesystem driver it's mounted with and the options
standard stuff
But wouldn't then the error of 'rm' be something else.
'Operation not supported'
Is the current error.
And not something like:
'Permission denied'
is this native or in some kind of a virtual machine? and what exact distro and version of Linux?
Well, if the filesystem were read-only then deletion (writing) wouldn't be supported, surely...
OpenSuse, native
No the file-system is not read-only.
I can edit other files very fine.
But this exact folder is heavy-armed.
19:39
In windows: takeown /F "full path of folder or drive" /A /R /D Y
> EROFS Read-only filesystem (POSIX.1)
so if the FS were mounted read-only that is the error he'd get
Or icacls "full path of folder or drive" /setowner "Administrators" /T /C
Both of those commands sets the owner to admistrator and you should be able to delete the folder.
Trying those right now...
@FISOCPP What folder? Is it some kind of system folder?
@Mokubai Yeah - it's the folder where some windows version was installed I think.
But it was long time ago and I can't exactly remember.
My idea though was to safe the windows installation for later I think or to have non-default windows location.
It obviously didn't worked. There is too much native stuff in it.
And some paths are exceeding normal path limits and including strange symbols.
19:47
Shit. Now one of the corporate networks I have to use has implemented forced TLS/SSL MITM.
@allquixotic Sorry to hear that... New job?
@DavidPostill: Added my comment to your Question line num question.
I love that question though even though it was downvoted like trailorpark trash
20:24
sup homies.
@allquixotic do you work where I do?
they changed the proxy last week and now does this
which has broke a number of things, making it 1. obvious to me, 2. lol worthy
'No no we haven't done anything'
Me: So why am i getting spoof'd ssl certs now?
This is after my boss denied any changes, and when his boss told us about said changes, i had guessed the day of the change perfectly :/
oh god, I am back in an IT job aren't i? :/
@djsmiley2k I don't know
I don't work in the UK
seats and electronics
this company s global
:D
it's the kinda thing that happens everywhere i guess D:
we should try to implement a layered TLS on TLS proxy
actually, I think you could do that already just with two stunnels
but the inner stunnel would have to verify correct certificate chain
20:34
still fails to wrench attack
aka 'Corporate IT find you and fire you'
wrench attack?
oh
being a contractor is cool
but i dont' think i could quite get away with this :/
well, how would they know to find and fire you if all they can see as your datastream is a bunch of encrypted bits?
the first connection, they'd see that?
at least where it came from...
you mean the destination server
20:36
the source...?
but yes.
well, yeah, that's why you stick the destination server somewhere that they can't feasibly block, like AWS - if they block all of a cloud host, half the internet becomes useless
20:48
yoi
21:04
YoiLo
@DavidPostill Waited a whole hour until your suggested 'takeown' command finish then tried 'rd /s' on the folder and the result is the same 'Access denied'.
Maybe there is some low-level tool to do that. Something like Active Data Recovery but instead with a way to remove NTFS nodes.
@FISOCPP :/
Why would the OS even care for the files inside the folder?
Isn't the folder itself just some node in the NTFS system which can be simply dis-linked?
Or not?
Was it the MSF system?
Similar to the Multistream File structure.
But anyway so what are my options now?
What are we talking about?
Link me the original post?
=)
Oh i see here..
2 hours ago, by FISOCPP
Ok guys please help - I need to delete my system drive - fast.
I guess I will give up that now. It's getting too late :O.
Bye!
Poor guy
My mother would have told him to run scandisk
@FISOCPP @Dave Or chkdsk /f was going to be my next suggestion as earlier mentioned "some paths are exceeding normal path limits and including strange symbols."
This is the mother that seems to think that slot machines on pogo are real slot machines with wheels that turn.
@Dave How can you prove they aren't? ;)
@DavidPostill: That reminds me of a joke
Heres the joke.. "How do you tell if something is made in china?... when you pick it up and shake it in your ear, you hear 'ching chong'"
21:27
Oh dear ;)
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Q: Explicit pictures show when searching "gedit" in Ubuntu Dash

XiaokunRecently at work I searched the Unity Dash for gedit and there were explicit pictures in the search result. The picture shows in "Reference" field when I search "gedit" only.. It was very embarrassing to see those files in the list in front of my coworkers. How can I prevent such incidents from...

Thats a gem.
Read the top voted comment ... I'm not going to quote it here :/
lmfao
To understand this: Go to wikipedia.org and type gedit into the search field. Within the top results, there are the articles Genetical modification and mutilation and Genital wart, including an images for both... — Cedric Reichenbach 8 hours ago
As it happens I can't reproduce this. I just get the gedit page ...
21:34
Theres no suggested articles or anything?
Ah. NSFW In the search popdown ... you have to wait a bit.
lol
oh god its on the android app too
I had to scroll my browser page down to see it.
If you start searching for gedit.. its all over
22:14
SCIENCE dude, SCIENCE!
posted on March 22, 2016

Come to think of it, painting is pretty nice. As is patting pies.

 
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23:32
All the cats in the house put your hands up
@kerbalspacebecky 🐾
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Bob
Bob
23:53
@allquixotic Funny thing about that service thing... I'd actually trust them more and consider using them if it were paid.
(For legal reasons too... as a customer you have more protections than some random free service.)
@Bob They're planning to "monetize" later. I'm not sure how. They may actually end up charging companies to provide premium service to people. They may even end up being more or less customer service outsourcing.
@Bob What exactly do you want protection from? They're not obliged to do anything for you and you're not obliged to do anything for them...
Bob
Bob
@kerbalspacebecky Mostly on the privacy front.
I think what will happen is that "Service" will help companies by just being better at customer service than the random rag-tag group of idiots they hire at most companies, and routing customer requests more correctly through the system.
that's if the company ends up succeeding.
@Bob Meh. EU laws...
Bob
Bob
23:56
The whole "take their info and run" is harder to pull off when there's a money trail.
Money trail or not, there's no hiding from the EU
Just look at them terrorists
Worst criminals on the planet. Zero morals and they still get caught.
Bob
Bob
Also of note: their HTTPS cert isn't IV/EV, and their domain rego is masked.
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
Bob
Bob
@kerbalspacebecky There's a bit of a difference between the effort put in there vs the effort put into tracing down some fraudulent website.
Neither is Santander's

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