Root Access

bwDraco

5:00 PM

Hence, I recommended f/7.1 or f/8.

Burgi

@PatoSáinz i was mistaken, i thought i had seen it for sale ages ago

home time!

bwDraco

Aperture

In optics, an aperture is a hole or an opening through which light travels. More specifically, the aperture and focal length of an optical system determine the cone angle of a bundle of rays that come to a focus in the image plane. The aperture determines how collimated the admitted rays are, which is of great importance for the appearance at the image plane. If an aperture is narrow, then highly collimated rays are admitted, resulting in a sharp focus at the image plane. If an aperture is wide, then uncollimated rays are admitted, resulting in a sharp focus only for rays with a certain focal length...

This should provide a better explanation of how your lens's aperture works.

Stop down = increase f-number = less light = greater depth of field

Open up = decrease f-number = more light = shallower depth of field

qasdfdsaq

Aperture (software)

Aperture was a photo editing and management computer program developed by Apple Inc. for the OS X operating system, first released in 2005, and now discontinued from the App Store. The software handles a number of tasks common in post-production work such as importing and organizing image files, applying corrective adjustments, displaying slideshows, and printing photographs. Features of Aperture include non-destructive editing, organization of photographs by keyword, faces (using face detection and recognition), and places (using GPS metadata embedded in image files), brushes for applying effects...

bwDraco

The lens markings indicate the lowest f/numbers possible, not the highest.

7 mins ago, by bwDraco

Faster lenses, especially zoom lenses with f/2.8 (and sometimes even wider) apertures can be very, very expensive. Fixed focal length lenses (prime lenses) can provide apertures as wide as f/1.2 or f/1.4 and are often cheaper, but you won't be able to zoom.

qasdfdsaq

1 min ago, by qasdfdsaq

Aperture (software)

Aperture was a photo editing and management computer program developed by Apple Inc. for the OS X operating system, first released in 2005, and now discontinued from the App Store. The software handles a number of tasks common in post-production work such as importing and organizing image files, applying corrective adjustments, displaying slideshows, and printing photographs. Features of Aperture include non-destructive editing, organization of photographs by keyword, faces (using face detection and recognition), and places (using GPS metadata embedded in image files), brushes for applying effects...

bwDraco

5:06 PM

@qasdfdsaq: I just decided to unignore you and it turns out you decided to post seemingly relevant but off-topic content to confuse us. Not only that, you decided to repeat yourself to troll us when you just posted that in the last message. Flagged.

Anonymous

Aperture is discontinued anyway

Anonymous

Lightroom ftw (or darktable)

bwDraco

@Boris_yo Please disregard @qasdf. He's just trolling.

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq I know you have @bwDraco on ignore but you should read chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/27966506#27966506 (lol)

Anonymous

@bwDraco chill.

qasdfdsaq

5:10 PM

@PatoSáinz Lol

If repeating oneself was trolling bwDraco would have 500 flags by now.

Perhaps that'll teach him how annoying it is for everyone else.

bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq You weren't just repeating yourself. You're intentionally trying to confuse us, and that's what we consider trolling.

Anonymous

No, you consider that trolling.

bwDraco

@PatoSáinz I mentioned aperture as in the photography concept. @qasdfdsaq mentioned Aperture as in the software. It's quite clear he was trying to confuse the reader.

Anonymous

And how on earth could you get confused.

bwDraco

That's why I called him out on trolling.

Anonymous

5:14 PM

@bwDraco I still can't see how you'd get confused. Also, Aperture (software) is also photography-related. If anything, she helped Boris discover more photog resources.

Anonymous

Chillax

Kit Z. Fox

I saw the tag for foxes. Where are they?

allquixotic

!!tell 27966696 foxno

qasdfdsaq

@KitZ.Fox: Right there (look in the mirror ;))

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

5:15 PM

satisfied?

bwDraco

Bob, Sydney, Australia

27k 9 70 115

qasdfdsaq

Also here:

16 hours ago, by qasdfdsaq

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic No.

Anonymous

mod-SWATing

Anonymous

chat.SE's favourite pastime.

qasdfdsaq

5:16 PM

@PatoSáinz Lol that's a new way to call it

Kit Z. Fox

pastiche

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq drive-by flagging and mod-SWATing

bwDraco

I don't really know what to say. I think I overreacted again, but qasdf has been very annoying lately and has been causing untold disruption in this room.

Kit Z. Fox

What's mod-SWATing?

allquixotic

@PatoSáinz we just do that to get @KitZ.Fox's dynamic personality in here, and so we can help even the odds on the vulpine side of the animal faction war (cats/dogs/foxes)

3

Anonymous

5:17 PM

@KitZ.Fox when something gets flagged and we get every site mod here

allquixotic

(in all seriousness I have no idea who flagged what or why and I don't care)

Anonymous

and CMs

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic Aww. You could just ask.

Anonymous

10 mins ago, by bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq: I just decided to unignore you and it turns out you decided to post seemingly relevant but off-topic content to confuse us. Not only that, you decided to repeat yourself to troll us when you just posted that in the last message. Flagged.

Kit Z. Fox

I only came because foxes.

Anonymous

5:17 PM

@KitZ.Fox we all love foxes here.

Kit Z. Fox

fluffs tail

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz lol

I've seen you in here before, but I can't remember when

allquixotic

do you floof like the floof fox on youtube? :D

Anonymous

@bwDraco I can attest that @qasdfdsaq is a very cool person. And even if we fight sometimes, we still love you.

2

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic I've been practicing.

5:18 PM

It's hard for me to see foxes in captivity.

qasdfdsaq

I'm not just cool, I'm freezing cold. It's snowing again

Kit Z. Fox

@qasdfdsaq Oh sorry. stops scratching

allquixotic

@KitZ.Fox Me, too. Whenever I see other animals I have an irresistible tendency to want to smack them on the nose with my paw (claws retracted, of course).

Anonymous

Kit Z. Fox

5:20 PM

I am so hungry right now.

Anonymous

foxes are dangerous animals and should be handled with caution.

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic My cat likes to roll on my head and chew my hair.

allquixotic

@KitZ.Fox I won't attempt to understand the mechanics of how any of that is possible

Anonymous

most regulars on Root Access are animals (or Taylor Swifts)

Anonymous

wow

qasdfdsaq

5:22 PM

@PatoSáinz We've already had this conversation

bwDraco

Well, I'm the resident dragon here.

allquixotic

my cat is very aloof. she only claws the heck out of my leg when she wants treats

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq my memory's short.

allquixotic

.... which is usually

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic Oh. That's when I'm sitting on the couch. He climbs on the back and leaps on my head.

allquixotic

5:23 PM

ah, okay. So your cat is featured in Half-Life 1 and 2 as one of the enemies, right...

(headcrab / headcat)

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz Ah, no sorry, we were talking about wolves.

Kit Z. Fox

@allquixotic Yes, like that.

bwDraco

@Boris_yo: Photography is a very, very deep subject. I'd suggest you study the basics a bit before you continue with your project. You'll probably get much better results once you understand things like the exposure triangle.

qasdfdsaq

5 hours ago, by allquixotic

a fairer canid comparison to cats would be wild wolves

5 hours ago, by allquixotic

they are probably pretty damn fierce and ruthless

DavidPostill

@PatoSáinz Except for Dave, Me, You, OliverSalzburg, Hennes, @CanadianLuke and not forgetting John Cavil. So I don't think it's most.

qasdfdsaq

5:25 PM

I keep confusing them Canids.

Anonymous

@DavidPostill still a lot of people

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Humans are animals.

Anonymous

bwDraco

Feb 14 at 19:21, by bwDraco

Coffeemaker tips: Remove the carafe, run the coffeemaker with the lid open to preheat the water until you notice that it starts to "force" itself out, then close the lid to begin brewing. If it supports auto-pause, wait about 20-30 seconds before you insert the carafe to let the coffee grounds steep (and to avoid thermal shock due to an empty carafe being placed on the hot plate).

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq Speak for yourself.

qasdfdsaq

5:26 PM

Therefore all of the above are animals, with the sole exception of the chatbot.

Kit Z. Fox

@PatoSáinz That is a very confusing picture.

qasdfdsaq

Human

Modern humans (Homo sapiens, primarily ssp. Homo sapiens sapiens) are the only extant members of Hominina clade (or human clade), a branch of the taxonomical tribe Hominini belonging to the family of great apes. They are characterized by erect posture and bipedal locomotion; manual dexterity and increased tool use, compared to other animals; and a general trend toward larger, more complex brains and societies. Early hominins—particularly the australopithecines, whose brains and anatomy are in many ways more similar to ancestral non-human apes—are less often referred to as "human" than hominins...

Anonymous

@KitZ.Fox your yiffing days are over

qasdfdsaq

> Scientific classification e
Kingdom: Animalia

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq that's a myth

Anonymous

5:27 PM

just like global warming

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz Oh I forgot, we didn't evolve from apes.

God created us in seven days right?

bwDraco

...and I somehow forgot that I had switched off the coffeemaker with some water in the coffee grounds basket. I normal let it steep for a few minutes, but I think I left it there for about 25 minutes before I remembered and switched the unit back on, replacing the carafe.

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq we are God's image.

Anonymous

lol /biblethumping off

qasdfdsaq

God

In monotheism and henotheism, God is conceived of as the Supreme Being and principal object of faith. The concept of God as described by theologians commonly includes the attributes of omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. God is also usually defined as a non-corporeal being without any human biological gender, but the concept of God actively (as opposed to receptively) creating the universe has caused some religions to give "Him" the metaphorical...

> Scientific classification: None

Anonymous

5:28 PM

@qasdfdsaq shit

Kit Z. Fox

@PatoSáinz damn.

I shouldn't have googled that at work. I knew what it was, and I did it anyway.

qasdfdsaq

!!google yiffing

DavidPostill

answersingenesis.org/are-humans-animals

ChatBot John Cavil

@qasdfdsaq * Urban Dictionary: yiffing ; Urban Dictionary: yiff ; yiff - Wiktionary

qasdfdsaq

(I honestly don't know what it is...)

Oh god.

I knew I shouldn't have clicked that at work.

Anonymous

5:29 PM

I was on 4chan /his/ (History and Humanities board) making a case for not being religious (not atheism, just Irreligion) and my post got an ID number suffixed with 666 (trips).

Anonymous

Everybody thought I was the devil

Anonymous

It was cool

bwDraco

lol

qasdfdsaq

I didn't know what it was but the first results being urbandictionary and KitZ's comment should have warned me

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq welcome to the internet.

terdon

5:30 PM

@qasdfdsaq It was one, if you believe the Judeochristian version. In any case, it certainly looks like he rushed it.

Anonymous

@KitZ.Fox whoever watches your firewall is interested in you know

allquixotic

thank goodness for TLS 1.2 and guacamole

Anonymous

@DavidPostill well I'd have to search in the Catholic cathecism

Kit Z. Fox

@PatoSáinz Well, that's all right. We go for beers every other week.

qasdfdsaq

I have no guacamole :-( Or TLS.

Anonymous

5:31 PM

there are just too many protestant sites with their own interpretations of shit that it just confuses me

qasdfdsaq

Quick, everyone switch to HTTP(TL)S

Anonymous

@KitZ.Fox not for long if you keep doing those search queries

allquixotic

quick, everyone strong-arm me into making accounts for you on my guacamole server

Anonymous

!!google what's my IP

ChatBot John Cavil

@PatoSáinz * What's My IP Address? Networking Tools & More ; What Is My IP Address? IP Address Tools and More ; Whats My IP Address | Private Internet Access VPN Service

DavidPostill

5:31 PM

@PatoSáinz Ignore me, I was just trying a wind up ;)

qasdfdsaq

Urgh I have to trundle home through the snow. And for that, I will leave you with this topical fox picture:

Anonymous

even if it had returned an IP there, it would have been googlebot's

qasdfdsaq

Boris_yo

@bwDraco Yes. I will remove background as well after taking shots so it looks like there's retouching to learn as well... Thanks.

Anonymous

it was just fun back in IRC days, these bots that fetched titles from links. And you made them fetch a title that contained their own IP.

allquixotic

5:32 PM

@PatoSáinz theoretically it could have been Cavil's

Kit Z. Fox

@qasdfdsaq Killing me with cuteness.

allquixotic

*shrug* don'thackmebro

Anonymous

@allquixotic is there a "fetch title" function there?

allquixotic

(Cavil is run on my box)

@PatoSáinz idk

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic I know your boxes IP!

Anonymous

5:33 PM

@qasdfdsaq hax

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq I know. I've put it in here multiple times.

qasdfdsaq

I've forgotten it though

bwDraco

!!/listcommands

DavidPostill

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/animal

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco help, afk, awsm, ban, color, convert, define, die, doge, domain, eval, export, findcommand, forget, forgetseen, github, google, hang, imdb, import, info, inhistory, jquery, learn, listcommands, listen, live, mdn, meme, moustache, mustache, norris, nudge, parse, refresh, spec, stat, stats, tell, timer, todo, unban, undo, unonebox, user, weather, wiki, xkcd, youtube, zalgo, ;p, \/s*, after5, ahh, areyoukidding, bababababat, baroo, beatingbloodoutofarockwithahalberd, bespecific, boberror
bunny, caat, cancer, caniuse, caution, chihuahuaunravelinginsidearollofbubblewrap, clevergirl, cod…

Anonymous

5:33 PM

heh chat is kinda fast today

Kit Z. Fox

meeting. later!

allquixotic

*trundles off to aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade the Cavil container*

DavidPostill

Simple Definition of animal

: a living thing that is not a human being or plant

Anonymous

@KitZ.Fox see you

qasdfdsaq

It's got a topical RDNS, something like cavil.allquixotic'sleetdomain.com

Anonymous

5:34 PM

@DavidPostill lol nice

DavidPostill

Full Definition of animal

1
: any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living things including many-celled organisms and often many of the single-celled ones (as protozoans) that typically differ from plants in having cells without cellulose walls, in lacking chlorophyll and the capacity for photosynthesis, in requiring more complex food materials (as proteins), in being organized to a greater degree of complexity, and in having the capacity for spontaneous movement and rapid motor responses to stimulation

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Any scientist would disagree with that (bacteria, viruses, etc. are not animals)

Anonymous

well

jokerdino

it's about time for another flag war in Root access.

Anonymous

STEM vs humanities

Anonymous

5:35 PM

STEM vs linguists (even tho it's a cognitive science)

Anonymous

@jokerdino why? is @bwDraco at it again?

jokerdino

who what? We haven't identified the culprit yet.

qasdfdsaq

!!wasntme

ChatBot John Cavil

Anonymous

Merriam-Webster is the best english dictionary imo

bwDraco

5:36 PM

I think I overreacted.

Anonymous

@jokerdino just kidding

Anonymous

but are there spurious flags again here?

jokerdino

totally flagged you.

bwDraco

29 mins ago, by bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq: I just decided to unignore you and it turns out you decided to post seemingly relevant but off-topic content to confuse us. Not only that, you decided to repeat yourself to troll us when you just posted that in the last message. Flagged.

jokerdino

@PatoSáinz just pointing towards the clock. It's exactly around this time.

bwDraco

5:36 PM

To be clear, I do not mass-flag content.

If you see a large number of chat flags here, it probably wasn't me.

Anonymous

@jokerdino true

bwDraco

Was there another flag?

jokerdino

hi @KitZ.Fox.

@bwDraco nope

we haven't triggered the flagger yet.

allquixotic

I remember the mathematics chat got a ton of flags for... what must have been months, there

it was the same thing: spurious

qasdfdsaq

Didn't you say room owners can see who flags what though?

Or rather actual owners

aka the schnauzer

Urgh my microsoft band broke

jokerdino

5:39 PM

I dont know. Most room owners are 10k+ anyway.

Anonymous

allquixotic

diamond mods can see who flags, but no amount of rep or room ownership will do it

DavidPostill

Room owners cannot see who flagged. We discussed this yesterday.

qasdfdsaq

Feb 25 at 17:48, by Jonno

Does it not tell you who flags something...?

jokerdino

Only mod flags.

qasdfdsaq

5:41 PM

Feb 25 at 17:48, by Doorknob

@Jonno only mods of the parent site of the chatroom

jokerdino

Yes

qasdfdsaq

Wait what's a mod flag?

bwDraco

@PatoSáinz Was this directed towards me?

qasdfdsaq

Or what's the difference between a flag and a mod flag?

Anonymous

@bwDraco no

jokerdino

5:41 PM

@bwDraco no

bwDraco

So how do we find out who's mass-flagging here? Do we need a CM?

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz Yes, everyone be like Bob.

Bob is nice. He doesn't flag stuff all day. When he sees people arguing he just posts tons of cute fox pictures.

It's rather effective at diffusing the situation I must say.

jokerdino

Alice sends Bob those cute fox pictures.

DavidPostill

It's strange that all the "drive by" flagging seems to happen when JMG is not in the room ... and he is the only person who identify the flagger ...

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq indeed

Anonymous

5:43 PM

@DavidPostill we need SU mod in other time zone you say?

DavidPostill

Someone is timing their flags carefully ...

bwDraco

I wonder if a Stack Exchange developer has access to the internal flag data so that they can be traced...

jokerdino

Maybe the suspect knows when JMG is not around and flags around then.

Anonymous

@allquixotic I know who it may have been

DavidPostill

@jokerdino Exactly. That's what I was trying to say...

Anonymous

5:44 PM

A radical empiricist

bwDraco

Any record on who was in the room at the time this happened?

Anonymous

jokerdino

@DavidPostill doesnt hurt to say it again ;p

Scratch that. Don't give them any more ideas.

bwDraco

...so this is why we need a CM to confirm what was going on.

Anonymous

@DavidPostill ok that's just an error from the StackExchange dev team

jokerdino

5:46 PM

you only need a SU mod to babysit this room all day everyday.

Anonymous

flagging should have a statute of limitations

Anonymous

it's not reasonable to be able to flag something from months ago

jokerdino

you probably can't flag if several of your flags are dumpstered .

Anonymous

meta post anyone?

Anonymous

proposing a limit on transcript-flagging, first. And a solution to drive-by flagging, second.

jokerdino

5:47 PM

@PatoSáinz that was fixed I think.

what SO calls the Genesis crisis.

Anonymous

@jokerdino genesis crisis? wat? link please

jokerdino

I am just making shit up.

DavidPostill

27

Q: Disallow flagging chat messages from the transcript as offensive

Chat is an instant medium. What's past the first two screenfuls is water under the bridge, off to the transcript to collect dust and very very little google juice. Chat flags are supposed to be an instant moderation solution to instant messaging problems: broadcast problem messages as fast as po...

feature-request chat chat-flags

6

Q: Is it possible to flag a chat message "for moderator attention" (w/ explanation box) from transcript?

When you click the flag button on a message in the chat window, it reads "flag for moderator", and a dialog with an explanation field pops up. When you click the flag button on a message in the transcript or on the star wall, it reads "flag as spam/offensive" and the flag is immediately raised. ...

support chat chat-flags

Anonymous

lol

DavidPostill

61

Q: Why am I suspended from chatting for a message from three months ago?

I have just been suspended from chatting in the C++ lounge for a message that was deleted by the @Feeds bot, that is from May this year. Why now the suspension (30 mins) for a message so old already?! Reason for ban I'm confused.

discussion chat

9

Q: Disable flagging on old chat messages

In response to the effect this question is referring, I am proposing one of two possible scenarios: Disallow flags on chat messages older than X hours, or Remove old flagged posts from the transcript, but no suspension occurs (as in the aforementioned question).

feature-request status-completed flags chat

bwDraco

5:50 PM

0

Q: Spurious mass-flagging events in Root Access chat room—any idea who's responsible?

Lately, we've been seeing several mass-flagging events where some unknown user decides to flag a large number of chat messages in the Root Access room as spam/offensive (not mod attention). We've been unable to determine the exact source of these flags. Does anyone have any idea who's responsibl...

discussion flagging chat

jokerdino

61

A: Why am I suspended from chatting for a message from three months ago?

Some teenager, who never answered a single C++ question on SO, and who was never before seen in the C++ chat room, storms into the room, actively searches the room's history for words and phrases he finds offensive and then goes on a rampage flagging a bunch of old messages. Of course, given just...

Anonymous

oh, new post

JohnB

even if the CMs determined who it was, they wouldn't tell us

jokerdino

John'sBack.

Anonymous

@JohnB well I don't care about the witch hunt

Anonymous

5:51 PM

they don't have to tell us

Anonymous

just to do justice

DavidPostill

@JohnB No, but they might slap with a rolled up newspaper or something ...

JohnB

they might, but a meta post encouraging speculation isn't going to do anything productive. You'd be better off shooting an e-mail to team@ with your concerns, faster response time probably

DavidPostill

49

Q: Is the language "BrainF_ck" offensive?

There are a couple of posts on SO where the BrainF_ck language is mentioned that have been flagged as offensive. Should these be edited to "BrainF_ck" (or something else), or left as is? Personally, I could go either way.