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Bob
12:00 AM
I fail.
 
No scoooby snacks for noticing why this traceroute is wierd
 
Anonymous
poneytelecom: nice name
 
my little pony
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...It's weird?
 
im outta here.
 
12:03 AM
@PatoSáinz for some reason both my hosts so far (buyvm and online.net) seem to have equine themes
 
have a good night all.
 
@Bob singapore -> HK -> singapore -> chennai....
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...still doesn't look too crazy? :P
 
@Bob wouldn't connecting directly to the singapore hop make sense?
 
Bob
Possibly. Possibly not. Who knows how their network is designed.
In a perfect world, yes.
Well, in a perfect world you'd end up at your destination in a single hop.
 
12:08 AM
(also, interesting that starhub uses tata for transit, which is something I've never noticed before.)
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek look at all those hops
 
@PatoSáinz they make sense tho
 
Anonymous
well kinda
 
south america -> north america -> UK -> paris
 
Anonymous
12:13 AM
yea
 
and it dosen't bounce between two places 250ms apart
 
my tracert is having trouble getting out of the network lol
 
Anonymous
but I can't wait for a cable from asia to south america to be deployed
 
Anonymous
that one that's going to go through Hawaii
 
Anonymous
12:15 AM
yay more taps for the americans
 
@PatoSáinz ^
How about that one?
 
Anonymous
@MichaelFrank NZ is still a part of the five eyes
 
Anonymous
but the more cables the better, so if you pay for it I'm all for getting it deployed
 
Eh.... nobody cares about FVEY :P
 
Anonymous
Michael confirmed for astroturfing
 
Bob
12:19 AM
I'm just waiting for Hawaiki now.
 
@PatoSáinz shrug
 
Anonymous
@MichaelFrank <3
 
I suppose that's handy. Only that its happening for 24 files. One by one
 
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek god delete those files! they're illegal
 
12:23 AM
@JourneymanGeek Hey poneytelecom, my server is on their network too
 
I prefer to think of them as 'Morally Ambigious'
 
Also @JourneymanGeek, reviews of the Razer Blade Stealth are out
 
@qasdfdsaq online.net?
 
@JourneymanGeek yup
 
@qasdfdsaq I'm not looking. I can't afford it at the moment
 
12:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek Good to see more and more people are using BTSync!
 
@CanadianLuke I've been using it on and off since the beta
 
Eh, looks like my ISP just fell over for a few minutes
 
and its the simplest tool for my convoluted BT setup
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Don't worry. That's just GCHQ updating their servers.
 
Looks like I'm gonna have to buy a laptop with a Czech keyboard...
 
12:27 AM
I asked my cat "who's a kitty?" and she said "Me!" :D
2
 
(qbitorrent + rss feeds, though I'm still tweaking the filters). Once a download is completed it sends a message over gntp to growl for windows - which has a custom plugin to use the windows 10 toasters (thanks @Bob ;p) and automatically uploads it to my current scratch drive.
@allquixotic cause if she said "you" things would get arkward.
 
@Bob Urgh why did they have to do that right when I was trying to stream illegal videos...
... Or maybe that's why they did it right then?
 
Anonymous
@qasdfdsaq why?
 
@qasdfdsaq them's in your tubes, watching your vids!
 
@JourneymanGeek They can't possibly be in my tubes, I have over-9000 bit encryption!
@PatoSáinz Because the configuration I want is only sold by a Czech reseller :-/
 
12:30 AM
My new strategy for defeating the NSA: join them have encryption with a larger bit size than they can fit on their servers
time to start keygenning a 128 yottabyte private key...
 
Anonymous
@qasdfdsaq now that's dedication
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Speaking of which, someone else said that the notifications don't get saved to the action centre.
Does that happen to you?
 
@PatoSáinz Or... It's not like I can buy anything else
 
@Bob yeah
They self dismiss and go away
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Urk.
Cause the fix looks like it requires a COM server for Win32 programs.
 
12:34 AM
I use growl's history for logging purposes at the moment
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Would you be willing to test if I ever get around to trying to fix that? :P
 
@Bob sure
LICD
 
01001001 00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01111001 01100101 01100001 01101000
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek This time, it should hopefully (hopefully!) be as simple as deploying a couple files. No remote, no VS :P
Since I now have the damn thing building properly locally.
 
@HenryWHHack english is the language of this channel, not binary
 
12:37 AM
I am a computer that's all I know.
 
@Bob pity you don't have ipv6. I'd be cool with firing up a VM on phoebe and just giving you access to that to test ;p
 
I have IPv6 available.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Heh. My ipv6 is routed through Canada
 
@bwDraco I trust @Bob enough to give him access to my main desktop when we were beating the gntp client into working ;p
 
Bob
I should probably set up Win10 myself sometime
 
12:40 AM
So, this girl that everyone keeps accusing me of having a crush on... Anyone know how old she is?
 
I wouldn't be able to help, sorry.
 
@qasdfdsaq nope
 
Damn. Guess I can't use "she's underage" as a defense/denial.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Oh yea. There's something funny about that project... I opened it the other day and it broke my VS2013 -_-
had to disable hardware accel
 
12:41 AM
what is a pan?
 
Didn't we have to do that on 2015?
 
Visual Studio has hardware acceleration?!
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek On yours, yea.
 
What the heck is there to accelerate in VS?
 
Bob
I've been using 2013 for a while here but this was the one that broke it :S
@qasdfdsaq Rendering? :P
 
12:42 AM
@Bob I wonder if its something with the SDK
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I didn't update the SDK.
 
@Bob What the heck is there to render n VS2013?
 
and yeah, GFW is wierd and old ;p
 
Bob
I'm more thinking an nvidia update.
@qasdfdsaq Text? LOL
 
ahh maybbe
 
12:42 AM
Last I checked Visual Studio was an IDE... the most complex thing it'd render would be source code.
 
@qasdfdsaq and its UI
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Actually, rendering source code is pretty hard.
 
... which hardly requires hardware acceleration
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq It also renders WinForms and WPF.
WPF especially can make use of hardware accel, iirc
 
@Bob But that's just 2D faff.
@Bob Then how come no other text editors use it?
 
Bob
12:44 AM
In fact, last I heard a good chunk of VS itself was written in WPF.
 
I am going delete system32.
 
Last time I used Visual Studio 2005 was still new -_-
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq They do tend to use fancy tricks to minimise the amount they process at once. Not something you can hardware accel, but it's still hard to colourise a large source file.
The parsing can get pretty ridiculous.
 
But given that Photoshop, Word, Chrome, and Notepad++ all work fine with no hardware accel :-/
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Word and Chrome do use hardware accel :P
 
12:45 AM
They use it but there's no noticeable impact from turning it off.
 
Bob
Where available. Which is what VS does. I just manually disabled it (fallback to software rendering).
@qasdfdsaq Same in VS.
 
At least, not on my machine
 
Bob
It's on by default, but you don't really notice anything from turning it off.
 
Are we counting DirectDraw(2D) here as hardware accel?
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Yea, I think so.
@qasdfdsaq Just checked. VS2010 onwards have a UI written in WPF.
 
12:46 AM
I mean there's hardware acceleration like h264 encoding, CUDA, and AES, then there's hardware acceleration as in rendering the Aero desktop...
 
Bob
WPF uses hardware accel by default.
 
!!google wpf
 
Bob
9
Q: How does hardware acceleration work with WPF?

Jeevan BhattThere are a lot of article on internet but still not clear, so i need a clear explanation of How Hardware acceleration work with WPF ?

 
Bob
I have a WPF project, where I need to render 200,000 polygons using StreamGeometryContext and PolyLineTo function on the user control's OnRender. When I did that, the entire windows become extremely sluggish even just to drag the window. All the polygon objects and pen are Frozen. I don't think hardware acceleration is being utilized here. Any suggestion? My system is Widows 7+Visual Studio 13. — Wayne Lo Feb 20 '15 at 2:08
O_O
Any suggestion? Yea. Try not rendering 200k polys.
 
12:48 AM
Yuck.
 
Bob
lol
that's not 'standard' WPF
@qasdfdsaq Thing about WPF is it's far more flexible than WinForms.
 
That's what I got when I googled it :-/
 
Bob
There's a kinda 'standard' theme to it that's pretty recognisable but lots of people use it and customise it.
 
Huh. WPF has been around since XP.
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Consider that modern VS itself is written in WPF.
And it's pretty close to the default theme.
 
Anonymous
12:50 AM
wait, isn't WPF being deprecated by MS in favour of WUA?
 
@Bob Again, not really used it. I think I have VS2010 somewhere, as my newest version, but all I ever did there was the most utterly basic console applications
It's been a while since I "properly" coded
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq This is kinda the standard WPF look: dotnetcurry.com/images/wpf/WPF-ItemsControl-Fundamentals_EF61/…
 
Heh. As much as I hate Apple and their lawsuits, it seems that for once they're on the consumer's side.
 
Bob
12:54 AM
If you see weirdly-sized flat buttons, it's probably WPF :P
 
@Bob That looks a bit like MMC to be honest
Though the arrows are on the opposite side
Bleh, everything just looks the same to me.
 
@Bob oh, my intel adaptor may be active as well
 
Clearly, another excuse for me to get a new monitor.
 
I (rarely) use it for quicksync.
 
So in a few months from now, this household is going to have several 4K monitors, a HTC Vive, an Oculus Rift, and a Gear VR... :-/
... And I still think VR sucks.
 
Bob
12:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek My desktop is very simple, graphics-wise.
Pretty much the only benefit of having P67.
 
I suspect the second hand market (i.e. Ebay) is going to be flooded with unwanted Gear VR's a month from now
 
Bob
The iGPU doesn't work -_-
@qasdfdsaq Speaking of, there was a Dell 4k 27" available for a hair under $800 (~600 USD). But that's still >4x more than a standard 24" -_-
 
@Bob I would love if the monitor I want could be had for close to that price... $4999 RRP :-/
 
Bob
o.O
Before I spend $800 on a monitor I should probably focus on graphics card upgrades. And CPU. And motherboard.
urk.
 
There's about a dozen things I need to buy this year, most of which are between £500 and £1000 each. Sadly the Dell OLED display is way way above that price range :-/
Yeah, I'm planning on a CPU + Motherboard upgrade as well as a GPU upgrade once the next-gen cards come out
 
Bob
1:02 AM
@qasdfdsaq msdn.microsoft.com/library/ms742196%28v=vs.100%29.aspx -- hardware accel includes 2D rendering and text rendering
And also 3D but that's probably irrelevant to most WPF programs.
 
Probably won't be spending much though, just getting another GTX 970 once the price drops
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Not a 980 (Ti)?
 
@Bob I already have a 970. Best additional performance per dollar would be to SLI it.
 
Bob
Ah.
 
Unlesss maybe I could sell the 970, but even then, the 980 is what, 10-20% faster? Meh.
 
Bob
1:04 AM
Yea, I went through that debate. But ended up with a 560 and 560 Ti, which aren't SLI-compatible with each other -_-
 
If I was wanting an upgrade to a faster single card, I might as well wait for Pascal/Polaris.
@Bob Huh. So close :-/
But also, DX12! Not that anything supports DX12 multi-GPU yet... or DX12 in any form...
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Basically, my 560's fan broke, so I got a 560 Ti (second-hand), but it sounded like a jet engine, ended up replacing the fan on the 560, used it for a couple years... then wanted an upgrade.
That's when I found out Ti was considered different by SLI.
 
"Apple backed by judge in new iPhone access fight"
 
Bob
I'm fine with old-gen second-hand cards though.
 
1:07 AM
BOOM. Apple bribes another judge, crisis averted.
 
Bob
Second-hand graphics cards are pretty cheap and don't die that easily anyway.
 
@Bob I bought a second hand Radeon 5870 and killed it within 24 hours >_>
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq :S
 
Admittedly, that was from a water leak, not "normal use"
 
Bob
lol
 
1:08 AM
@Bob Important detail: they're outdated
 
Bob
@oldmud0 I think that was implied by "old-gen".
Apart from bragging rights, cutting edge isn't really worth it for me at the moment.
Also considering the rest of my system is getting dated.
It doesn't even have PCIe 3.0.
It's only got a single x16 slot.
 
> Which operating system do you prefer on smartphones?
Apple's iOS 16%
Google's Android 42%
Microsoft's Windows 40%
 
My computer doesn't even have sata 600
 
Bob
And it's cramped enough to require card-surgery on the longer cards. THough the 760 I got is pretty much the longest conventional card in existence...
@qasdfdsaq lulwut
 
Huh, Weird turnout for a heavily Apple-biased site...
 
1:11 AM
@qasdfdsaq [citation needed]
 
any1 ever replace a broken microUSB port with their soldering skillz?
 
Anonymous
just 20 days to go for the expiration grace period of the domain I want to end and be available again
 
Anonymous
yay
 
Bob
@jiggunjer Depends where the port is.
And how it broke.
 
1:12 AM
 
Anonymous
@jiggunjer me
 
Anonymous
most of them are SMD parts
 
Anonymous
so it'll be a tad tricky
 
@oldmud0 o_0
> You think outside the box
42% Agree with you
697 voters. Share your opinion
 
on a lenovo tablet. by broke I mean the data connection is wobly, but charging still ok if keep it at an angle.
 
1:12 AM
Jan 20 at 13:31, by Burgi
to make it on to the HNQ list you need a clickbait title
Aug 20 '15 at 12:24, by DragonLord
Impressions = advertising revenue.
Oct 14 '15 at 4:58, by DragonLord
However, there's probably thousands of points of untapped reputation simply because of my answer style.
 
Anonymous
24 secs ago, by bwDraco
Aug 20 '15 at 12:24, by DragonLord
Impressions = advertising revenue.
 
It's unanimous people! I CAN READ GRAPHS AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT EVERYONE LOVES ANDROID
 
@PatoSáinz SMD suldering is surprisingly easy.
 
@PatoSáinz whats an SMD part
 
Because the sample size is one.
 
1:13 AM
!!google smd
 
Err
!!undo
 
@qasdfdsaq I'm afraid I can't let you do that, qasdfdsaq
 
You do not want to click that first result -_-
 
Anonymous
@qasdfdsaq I only have a 120W soldering gun
 
1:14 AM
My first guess SMD == need heat gun
 
Anonymous
and I'm not very good at doing things with my hands
 
Bob
@jiggunjer Well, you'd have to open it up and see how it broke.
 
Anonymous
so it's moderately hard for me lol
 
Bob
If it's just internal to the port, then that's alright.
 
@jiggunjer Surface-mount device—basically an electronic part designed to be easily put onto a PCB with a pick-and-place machine
 
Bob
1:14 AM
If the board is cracked, or traces are lifted, then you're screwed.
 
Anonymous
the "attach a thin wire to your gun" hack for SMD didn't really work out for me: I'd love to get a soldering station
 
@PatoSáinz Meh.
 
pretty sure internal part of port is loose, so bought replacement for 10 cents
 
Bob
@jiggunjer Look at the eevblog soldering tutorial videos.
They're pretty good.
 
Oh.
 
1:15 AM
"Google self-driving car hits a bus" "What they haven't said is that it was a self driving bus developed by Microsoft."
 
Anonymous
^this so much this (eevblog)
 
Resoldering an SMD that's still partially attached is fairly easy. Completely removinga nd replacing it, not so much
 
I checked a youtube soldering vid, it seems easy enough
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Just tack it on ;)
@jiggunjer I specifically recommend the eevblog ones 'cause he does it right.
Dunno about other videos.
 
@Bob I tend to find desoldering something with a dozen pins is the painful part
+1 for EEVBlog
 
Bob
1:16 AM
@qasdfdsaq Ah, yea... cut it off and take the pins out individually is easiest.
@jiggunjer You might also have some trouble with OTG, which has an extra pin IIRC
Make sure the port you purchased has that...
 
Or stick the whole thing under a blowtorch "multi purpose heat tool"
 
Thousands of points of untapped reputation—because I'm not "baiting" readers. Wow.
 
@Bob as I understand OTG has 5 pins, which is normal for microUSB
 
OTG has the same number of pins as standard MicroUSB, it just uses one of them differently.
 
Not sure whether this claim makes any sense, but it might bring attention to answering style.
 
1:18 AM
@bwDraco You have THOUSANDS of UNTAPPED REPUTATION! Learn how to clickbait readers with this new and exciting method
 
Oct 14 '15 at 4:57, by Journeyman Geek
I have a 'hook'
Oct 14 '15 at 4:57, by DragonLord
> It is a beautiful utterly elegant hack
22
A: Why does my SSD internally encrypt data, even without a password set?

Journeyman GeekIt is a beautiful utterly elegant hack used to save on wear on the disk. Scrambling/randomising data on MLC drives also improves reliabilty on smaller process sizes - see this paper and these two referenced patents (here and here, and encrypted data is essentially random (thanks to alex.forencich...

 
> Two British brothers convicted of selling marijuana are being sent to prison for two years after they mocked the judge on Facebook immediately after their court appearance. The judge had handed them two-year suspended sentences. The brothers, from Accrington, showed remorse when they appeared for sentencing earlier this month, but they sang a different tune on Facebook.
About an hour after a Burnley Crown Court judge issued the suspended sentences, one of the brothers, Daniel Sledden, 27, took to Facebook telling judge Beverley Lunt to suck his you-know-what. Younger brother Samuel, 22, w
 
Hence:
Oct 14 '15 at 4:58, by DragonLord
However, there's probably thousands of points of untapped reputation simply because of my answer style.
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Yea, just checked. It was the port shape that was different.
Maybe.
 
Strictly speaking they didn't get a 2-year jail sentence for telling the judge to "suck it" on Facebook...
 
1:20 AM
Your thoughts on clickbait and post score?
 
@Bob I thought the port shape was the same
> The head of the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that runs Wikipedia and related websites, has unexpectedly resigned.
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq There's micro-AB and micro-B apparently.
 
WTF is Micro AB
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Seems like it's not used anymore :\
 
I don't remember ever seeing it used
 
Bob
1:22 AM
My Nokia N8 had a Micro-AB port and the OTG cable that came with it only ever fit there.
Cause it had a squarish shape.
 
Anonymous
best soldering ever anyway (apart from NASA standards)
 
Bob
But it seems like every other device has just Micro-B and OTG uses that too now :\
 
Bob
@jiggunjer I'd also recommend a temperature-controlled soldering station (hobbyking has a real cheap one that's a clone of a Hakko unit).
 
1:23 AM
Huh, yeah. And yeah, every device I have with OTG has a B port
 
micro AB is the official OTG port. Technically a device with a micro B port is not! OTG :P
 
Bob
Though if you have an iron lying around you can use that.
 
It's meant to enforce the normal USB one-way role, so as to safely allow certain mobile devices to communicate with other peripherals. It's now obsolete—USB-OTG over USB Micro-B and USB Type-C, along with smarter electronics on what would otherwise be the A side of the USB connection, eliminate the need for a special connector for OTG.
 
Bob
@jiggunjer Yea, that's what I always thought.
 
> Interestingly, the new microUSB ports from Nokia have a slightly expanded aperture, allowing for a squarer profile for the CA-157 connector, which conforms to the new standard (for USB on the go), Micro-AB. This is similar to the extUSB system used by HTC for their mini-USB-but-with-extra-features connector a few years ago.
The idea is that all microUSB cables will fit the N8 (and other Symbian^3 phones) but that the CA-157 will only fit the Nokia phones (and any other future USB on the Go hosts). The physical difference hopefully stops confusion with users of other phones 'trying the ada
 
Bob
1:24 AM
Never really thought about how current devices do OTH with just a B port until today.
 
BUT most OTG cables probably hack the ID pin to make micro B OTG
 
Anonymous
@bwDraco take this for "safe answers"
 
Interesting. It's the same pinout.
 
Anonymous
it's f**ing hilarious
 
1:25 AM
difference between A and B cables is the ID pin voltage
 
Again, it's meant to enforce the one-way design of USB.
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq I love that guy.
 
which no1 seems to care about
 
Anonymous
@qasdfdsaq hahaha but did you watch the video?
 
Anonymous
1:26 AM
"this is a TIG welder"
 
@PatoSáinz Saw it ages ago
 
Anonymous
@qasdfdsaq oh <3
 
These days, it's not needed because devices are smarter and can configure themselves to properly act as host or client as needed, before any power is supplied or drawn and without creating an unsafe condition.
USB Type-C reflects this. There is no longer a need to have physically different connectors for the host and client to enforce one-way connectivity.
 
Anonymous
I'm laughing my ass off with your vigeo (as AvE would say)
 
Anonymous
keep that choochin' skokum
 
@Bob Eh. More like... Well I dunno what that's like. Hue Phoenix maybe?
There's remote-controllable (IR or RF) poor man's Hue LED bulbs too
But one key advantage of the "real" Hue's is the LED phosphors make for unusually good CRI.
For me I don't actually use the remote/wifi control all that often, that's largely secondary to getting decent quality light out of the thing
The last time I actually used the WiFi control was when a girl went in my room without my permission so I had to blink the lights at her to freak her out.
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Don't the standard Philips bulbs do that?
Or is the CRI of the Hues significantly higher?
 
The standard Philips LED bulbs do have good CRI, yes, but don't have the variable colour temperature.
I was tempted to keep both, cause the standard LEDs are so much more light per dollar, but my room is just too small for two lighting fixtures
 
What's the difference between a Tesla coil and the coil you would find in a Tesla car?
 
Bob
1:42 AM
@qasdfdsaq Ah. I think they also have an in-between one that lets you toggle colour temperature between a warm and cool setting by flipping the switch twice.
Probably would be a bit annoying to use.
 
@Bob Not heard of that one. I know the Hue Phoenix basically has the ability to produce anything from 2700k to 6500k white light but not any colours
@oldmud0 Probably the same as the difference between mains voltage and the voltage you'd find in a Chevrolet Volt car
So my computer hasn't crashed this year, that's impressive...
 
@qasdfdsaq Probably because it's a Mac
 
@oldmud0 It's not a Mac
 
@oldmud0 One starts a car, the other stops GDI troops.
 
1:53 AM
!!google GDI troops
 
I'm thinking of getting more of the cheap white strips I use for bias lighting for my planned workbench
 
GDI troops as in Microsoft making an army to defend GDI and GDI+ as the best graphics libraries in the world?
 
My bias-lighting white LED strips broke :-(
 
If so, it seems that they lost to thermonuclear war.
 
1:54 AM
Well, could be the controller's broke.
 
lol
Mine's wired straight to my power supply
 
But I still get some weird phantom power effect where touching the bare strip, while it's not powered on, causes the LEDs to light :-/
 
@qasdfdsaq Technically it'd be American/Allies troops... But then you wouldn't get the C&C reference.
 
Yeah I wasn't sure if it was safe to wire them to straight to 12V power, cause I ddin't know what voltage they were
 
I think mine do that too
Oh, I checked
and tested with a small segment of LEDs
 
1:56 AM
Also the controller is useful for dimming them sometimes
I keep getting the impression that LEDs need expensive constant-current drivers and normal power supplies aren't appropriate. Not sure where I got that from :-/
 
rofl
I literally have mine plugged directly to my PC power supply
 
I should probably try that. Saves me forgetting to turn them on every time I turn on my PC
 
Bob
@qasdfdsaq Scene Switch 2-in-1
 
Oh and cheap molex fans are almost custom made for this
 

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