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@Bob maybe for a system with 8x GTX TITAN ;-))
(heavily OCed too)
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@allquixotic My min clock is 405 :\
@Bob oh, on another topic: remember my Yoga 2 with a Pentium N3520? I tried Hearthstone on it this weekend... it was awesome... the performance is basically what I'd expect; very acceptable FPS, rendering detail was perfectly fine, no artifacts... running default (shipped with Windows 8.1) Intel HD Graphics driver
granted, Hearthstone isn't a super demanding game, but I've seen people who stream Hearthstone have FPS drops during recording, so it's certainly a bit more hungry than web surfing
and the loading screen took a bit longer than on my desktop
(disk-bound, most likely)
also, playing Hearthstone -- a card game -- with a touchscreen is fantastic
my Surface Pro, whose CPU and iGPU absolutely obliterate the N3520, plays it faster and even more enjoyable, even on highest detail, and it's sooo smooth because the SSD loads it fast... but my Surface Pro sucks for typing because of the stupid detachable keyboard
why did I think I have a Surface Pro 2? I don't have a 2!
@allquixotic Dual Xeons too!
@JourneymanGeek screw that; quad Xeons :D
@allquixotic: And water cooling! With a truck radiator and pump ;p
15:05
4 x Xeon E5-4650 (eight cores each) clocks in at a lovely 520W TDP
on a system that can slot four processors, I wouldn't be surprised if the mainboard could handle 8 TITANs
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@allquixotic There's people who run Halo on the Venue 8 Pro :P
nevermind, I forgot that the E7 Ivy Bridges are out now
the E5-4650 loses :D
Ivy Bridge-EX... Xeon E7-8895 v2... you can have eight processors in one logical system -- each processor... 15 cores
it's so expensive that Wikipedia doesn't even list the cost of the CPU
155W TDP per CPU
1240 Watts TDP for your CPUs on a fully loaded box
holy damn
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@JourneymanGeek Reminds me of that stupid Ars "god box"
lol
pretty much
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15:08
Expensive as all hell, draws more power than a small town, and best at nothing
Haswell's 8x Xeon boards and CPUs aren't out yet
There is such a thing as too much power.
@allquixotic: and you can't run a regular version of windows. You'd need a server version ;p
so yeah, eight of these are the most you can get on a single logical board as of now; to go faster on one logical OS you'd need some kind of supercomputer interconnect
@JourneymanGeek but I'm pretty sure most games should install on Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter ;)
Steam would go "WTF?! are you sure?!" at your specs when uploading them to its server, but other than that...
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15:10
@allquixotic Wasn't there some guy who wanted to install 2012r2DC for general use, and wanted help enabling some consumer Windows feature?
@allquixotic I'm happy to upload my specs, but since there's no way to exclude my list of installed programs... yea, no thanks :P
@Bob yeah... although honestly, back when I needed a new license of Windows and I didn't have one and didn't want to buy one, I used Windows Server 2008 R2 on my desktop in lieu of a Windows 7 Pro/Ult license... academic license of Server
I did that with 2003 back in the day
it was alright other than it being a bitch to find a free AV
@Bob what, do you have the AussieGirls er, a non-perfectly-innocent app of some sort installed?
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@allquixotic That guy was in the same situation, but he wanted to use the datacentre version for some reason.
@allquixotic H@H (no, I'm kidding)
15:12
@Bob H@H@ that's funny
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I don't think I use any of that :S
@JourneymanGeek your dog you always look so bewildered... like "I'm not sure if everything's gonna be OK or not"
@allquixotic: lol. My mom had popped out for something and it was raining.
Thats probably grouchy concern
aha, jokerdino the "ahh-starrer" is here... I need to find some information to provide to @JourneymanGeek that he didn't know before, so he says "ahh", so @jokerdino can star him ;)
@allquixotic: Heyy no fair. I just came in.
15:22
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Q: URGENT! I screwed up my moms laptop

jOESo I was downloading naughty things and accidently installed several pieces of software. Now the computer is running super slow. It takes about 20 minutes to boot up whereas before it took around 2. I think it is low on ram so I googledand a site told me to download more. So how do I go about dow...

!!no
Try using System Restore, and hope it goes back enough. — Braiam 7 secs ago
@allquixotic wait, he's regular?
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@Braiam Don't bother. It's a troll.
please don't ban me. I am not trolling. I am trying hard to understand all of this computer talk — jOE 19 secs ago
yeah right
but I have downloaded hardware before.. :/ — jOE 2 mins ago
no, no you haven't.
Hey Bob!
I heard you retired.
15:39
retired from what?
being a fox or being Bob?
from building stuff..
You know, Bob the Builder
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15:40
!!no
O_O
Wooo!
What does the Bob say?! "Can we fix it? Yes we can! Can we fix it? Yes we can! Can we fix it? Yes we can!" What does the Bob say?! "Ready, Steady, Build! Ready, Steady, Build! Ready, Steady, Build!" What does the Bob say?!
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15:41
...
Bleh.
What does the fox say though?
@jokerdino We'd have to ask @Bob.
What do you say @Bob?
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Hm. 6 TB HDDs are out.
15:44
Jesus christ, I just got the most frustrating reply from MS support
After not having heard from them for over a week, my boss mailed them to see what's up
And I got a reply only minutes later, telling me to install "some update roll-up"
counts the times MS reply is not frustrating
I was suspicious, because during our last call, we already collected dumps of the crashing SNMP service (the actual issue) and I assumed the solution was only a quick debugger run away
So, it turns out the update rollup fixes 1000 things, none related to SNMP
Morning all
@OliverSalzburg MS support, while annoying, is far less annoying than local helpdesk IT support :/
15:46
So I loaded the dump into windbg and noticed the exception happened in aus-snmp.dll, a non-Microsoft binary
"Can I install an updated Nvidia driver to solve these random artifacts in Word 2010?" "No, keep using the one from 2010, because everyone has to suffer through the same problems for 6 years"
#1 hit on Google was a Server Fault question about exactly the issue I was having
It's an Adaptec DLL that register SNMP extensions
Removing it from the registry instantly resolved the issue
Took 5 minutes in total
Adaptec FTW (sarcasm)
And they let me sit for a week and then send me some bullshit update roll-up?
@OliverSalzburg the tech probably searched Bing for the result instead, and the SF answer was buried on page 8
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15:48
!! s/Bing/MS Answers/
@Bob @OliverSalzburg the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the SF answer was buried on page 8 (source)
@allquixotic Now I feel bad for sending an angry reply email :(
don't blame the tech drone; he's just using the tools he's been provided
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!! s/SF answer was buried on page 8/answer told him to throw his computer into a lake/
@Bob @Bob @OliverSalzburg the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the answer told him to throw his computer into a lake (source) (source)
15:49
!! s/lake/smelting furnace/
@allquixotic @Bob @Bob @OliverSalzburg the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the answer told him to throw his computer into a smelting furnace (source) (source) (source)
!! s/to throw his computer into a smelting furnace (source) (source)/give up/
@Braiam No matching message (are you sure we're in the right room?)
@ChatBotJohnCavil BAD CALVIN!
@Braiam too many sources
15:51
@Braiam No matching message (are you sure we're in the right room?)
BOO!
!! s/@Bob @Bob @OliverSalzburg the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the answer told him to throw his computer into a smelting furnace \(source\) \(source\)/the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the answer told him to jump into a smelting furnace/
@allquixotic No matching message (are you sure we're in the right room?)
I guess he has a pretty short memory
@allquixotic No matching message (are you sure we're in the right room?)
15:52
@allquixotic Calvin needs to download MOAR RAM! downloadmoreram.com
@allquixotic @allquixotic the tech probably searched MS Answers for the result instead, and the answer told him to jump into a smelting furnace (source) (source)
ah, you have to `\\` each parenthesis
!! s/Calvin/Cavil/g
@allquixotic @allquixotic Cavil needs to download MOAR RAM! downloadmoreram.com (source)
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@allquixotic \ ;)
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I installed this app that lets me see girls. It says it doesn't need a credit card and is free is why I got it. — jOE 8 mins ago
*sigh* is it possible he's not trolling?
just an "innocent" 12 year old who wants to "see girls"?
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15:55
Can we delete that question already?
please.
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Feeding trolls here :(
once i get 20k, imma be vote-deleting a lot of questions even if the mods decide to leave them up
then again, there aren't a lot of questions that are worth deleting that slhck leaves alive :D
he is the question tornado... and he's an F6... 200 miles wide... go anywhere near him and you're toast!
!!xkcd 349
I fell trolled, @allquixotic doesn't have 20k yet... :(
been a little too busy to do much on SU of late
neither bob?!?1/ just in what world I live?!
@Braiam I have 14 more rep than Bob :D 14!
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XD
15:59
O_O
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I haven't been regularly answering for a while.
we should race to 20... but I know I'll lose
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Couple of massive boosts from popular questions.
@allquixotic Nah, you were ahead for a while. And you are now :P
@Bob mainly due to that bounty I got a while ago
@allquixotic asks a question only @bob know the answer and accept it
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16:04
@Braiam Not much in that category :P
@allquixotic could probably answer anything I could, at least as well and probably better.
@Bob I'm a good writer. that doesn't make me highly knowledgable
I'm good at giving advice which may help somewhat but doesn't necessarily pin down the issue exactly
 
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20:38
Was Google Desktop ever capable of doing a local image file search by using another image as input?
I'm looking for that kind of solution. I've been searching far and wide but haven't found anything as simple, and effective as the Google Image Search.
That of course only works if the files are stored on a web server and indexed by Google.
The move away from local storage to cloud storage is pointed out as the main reasons why Google decided to discontinue Google Desktop.
"In the last few years, there’s been a huge shift from local to cloud-based storage and computing, as well as the integration of search and gadget functionality into most modern operating systems. People now have instant access to their data, whether online or offline. As this was the goal of Google Desktop, the product will be discontinued on September 14, including all the associated APIs, services, plugins, gadgets and support."
@sammyg what do you mean? finding images that are somehow "visually similar" (the definition of that is completely arbitrary, unless you use some specific mathematical algorithm, but even then, it will have worst case behavior for some kind of images)
what's the point of finding visually similar images if you already have the image?
Yes, images that are visually similar.
The point is that I need the source image.
I only have a small version of it. And I cannot for the love of God remember where I had put it, or what the original file name was.
Having 13 partitions only makes things even worst! ;)
I have reduced the number of disk partitions to 9 now by merging some of them. Still work in progress... I plan to have maybe 2 partitions for my data and 1 partition for OS.
The best tool I could find for finding "visually similar" images are different duplicate finders. But those tools usually fall back on file name search, size compare, hash compare, etc. before they actually compare the visual similarity of picture files, and then yet some of them don't even go that extra mile.
@sammyg A co-worker of mine was pretty happy with download.cnet.com/Awesome-Duplicate-Photo-Finder/…
Given the false positives he showed me, I must assume it actually analyzes image content
21:21
Looks like I have just stumbled upon an advanced topic in computer vision.
Content-based image retrieval (CBIR), also known as query by image content (QBIC) and content-based visual information retrieval (CBVIR) is the application of computer vision techniques to the image retrieval problem, that is, the problem of searching for digital images in large databases (see this survey for a recent scientific overview of the CBIR field). Content-based image retrieval is opposed to traditional concept-based approaches (see concept-based image indexing). "Content-based" means that the search analyzes the contents of the image rather than the metadata such as keywords, t...
What Google does is known as "reverse image search" and Google Image Search is just one of many CBIR "engines".
This is a list of publicly available Content-based image retrieval (CBIR) engines, these image search engines look at the content (pixels) of their images in order to return results that match a particular query. Commercial CBIR search engines {| class="wikitable sortable" |- ! Name ! Description ! External Image Query ! Metadata Query ! Index Size (Estimate, Millions of Images) ! Organization Type ! License (Open/Closed) |- | [http://www.picalike.com/products/similarity-search.php Picalike] | CBIR engine for Mobile and eCommerce | No | No (additional filters can be added) | | Private Co...
So what I need is a server, a database, a CBIR engine, plus tons of reading to set this up... it's way over my head. Lolz! :)
@OliverSalzburg Have you had any luck building your own search engine? :)
@sammyg Luck had nothing to do with it
@OliverSalzburg Does that mean yes? :)
Anything CBIR related?...
Meanwhile... I have found the image I was looking for.
Not locally but on the world wide web.
The image in question is a wallpaper.
21:40
@sammyg Nope, I never worked on search engines. Nor did I ever use one in any of my projects
@sammyg Nice
I actually found it using TinEye, the image robot dude. :)
He did a better job here than Google! :p
Here is the sample picture I used. I will upload it. It's just a cropped version of the original.
Try to put that in on Google Image Search, and on TinEye. See who finds it first. :)
TinEye has a much bigger database. And probably better optimized algorithms.
Google doesn't even find it. But when you throw the original image from Devian Art at Google, it finds it too. Probably thanks to additional metadata embedded in the file, as well as 1920x1080 px full res.
Just proves the point that TinEye is a better image search engine (or at least a better reverse image search engine) than Google.
22:06
@OliverSalzburg Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, this program compares visual similarities between images. But the only problem with it, like with most duplicate file removal tools really... is that it can only operate within a given set of folder locations.
You can't tell to take one single file or a folder as reference, and compare it to a whole set of folders and files. Sort of like cross comparing...
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A: Which duplicate files and folders finders exist for Windows?

pcapademicClonespy http://www.clonespy.com I find this very helpful and more useful than doublekiller. A particularly nice feature is the "Pools" feature, where you can compare one group of directories with another group of directories while ignoring duplicates within the groups. For example, my partner...

This is the one duplicate finder I have used in the past. It's my favorite . It allows you to define two "pools" of file and folders. Then it allows you to compare pool to pool.
Another powerful tool for finding those pesky dupes is called Anti Twin. I've used this one on several occasions. It's very high quality, great set of features and great appearance, and it's freeware.
I don't think it has the option to cross compare between two sets of folders like Clone Spy does.
Another one I used a lot in the past was Moleskinsoft Clone Remover. It was a shareware but it worked really well. It looks like the website is gone now. Only available from various download sites.
Again the, problem with these tools is that they don't allow you to cross compare single files or folders to another set of files or folders. So far, I think Clone Spy is the only I have come across that does this.
They just search for duplicates based on file names, size, hash, etc. in a given folder and its sub-folders, and they only find duplicates within that folder tree.
Then of course, they are no revers image search software. Only some of them actually do a visual comparison of picture files. Those are usually the ones that are tailored for finding duplicate photo files. Moleskinsoft used to have that feature.
 
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23:19
@sammyg: This is starting to look like a sr.se question ;p
Faith in humanity restored! — André Stannek Nov 30 '12 at 16:35
bleh
My current network setup is fast enough to load media right off the storage box. The DOID is currently not getting used at all
I'd move it to the storage box but that box has only spare molex power connectors
@allquixotic Nice. Also, GUI mockups in Powerpoint? D:
@MichaelFrank wat?
who suggested GUI mockups in powerpoint?!
@allquixotic The question stated he had been using Powerpoint to do his GUI mockups.
23:31
Well he could do them in paint...
oh. wow. that's sad
to be fair, I can see how it would work as a GUI mockup tool. It's quite easy to place buttons and link them to other slides.
It's not going to map your page hierarchy, but it'll let you play with placement.
23:50
So this table is currently filling me with joy! :D

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