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Simon Sheehan

02:17

Just watched a great skiing movie in glorious HD.. Was great

Journeyman Geek

03:53

hmm

@WilliamHilsum: are the modern day intel heatsinks really THIS big? legitreviews.com/article/1655/2 (or anyone one else who has built a core i system recently ;p)

Simon Sheehan

@Journeyman 0.0 that's just... Huge.

I can't imagine using such a thing

Journeyman Geek

05:54

@SimonSheehan: files.backblaze.com/blog_pics/pod20-photo-motherboard.jpg this is what a 'regular' heatsink looks like, i thought ;p

Sathya

06:34

50

Q: Our security auditor is an idiot, how do I give him the information he wants?

A security auditor for our servers has demanded the following within two weeks: A list of current usernames and plain-text passwords for all user accounts on all servers A list of all password changes for the past six months, again in plain-text A list of "every file added to the server from re...

Journeyman Geek

lol

i read that. I'm wonder what he's smoking

slhck

08:40

spot the difference!

nobody

12 1

ssd bottleneck

nobody

1

overclocking cpu-speed

Judging from the Gravatar, how can you even register twice with the same e-mail address?

Sathya

08:53

they aren't registered, @slhck

slhck

@Sathya ah, okay :P

But still, why two separate users with the same Gravatar?

Sathya

probably lost the cookie

merged the 2

Mokubai

09:07

Hey everyone

How're we this fine day?

Sathya

lazy @Mokubai

Mokubai

Lazy? Sounds like time to play a game! :D

Journeyman Geek

a game of thermonuclear war?

Mokubai

the only way to win is not to play at all....

Journeyman Geek

had a headdesk moment I had my external sound card set up incorrectly

Mokubai

09:19

How do you set up a sound card incorrectly?

Journeyman Geek

and the thing with those is.. it sounds off, but its VERY hard to pinpoint it, especially since i mucked up my right ear grinding out a screw ;p

@Mokubai: it was set up to 16 bit. it supports 24 bit

Mokubai

You ground out a screw in you ear? ewwwww

Journeyman Geek

and since it dosen't downsample, it sounds worse

naw, i ground out a screw without hearing protection

(or something like that. set up properly it beats the crap out of onboard sound, to me.)

Mokubai

My onboard is good enough, though I would like a dedicated card as they tend to sound a bit crisper

Journeyman Geek

most onboards i've heard arn't great - if i built a box for myself, prolly would get an asus xonar on it

and i got this when i had a particularly craptastic sound card on my laptop

nuforce.com/hp/products/iconudac2 is what i use

Mokubai

09:24

Looks neat

Journeyman Geek

its also useful if i need RCA out for some reason out a laptop (though the much bulkier recording gear does that too)

Mokubai

The realtek audio I have is passable...

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai: for lossy, yeah

the new ones might be better.

but when you start playing with lossless, and things like ASIO, not really, IMO ;p

Mokubai

For professional audio I'd suspect it may not be the best, but for general gaming and stuff it works fine with a decent pair of headphones...

Sathya

anyone got a link to setting up a dns server?

Journeyman Geek

09:29

hmm

Sathya

@Mokubai well, yeah about to launch dirt 3 ;P

Journeyman Geek

recursive or authoritiative?

any any specific one?

Mokubai

@Sathya Arch Linux usually has good guides... wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DNS_with_bind

Journeyman Geek

howtoforge is what i tend to use howtoforge.com/howtos/dns?from=20

Sathya

thank ye, @JourneymanGeek & @Mokubai

back later. have fun.

Mokubai

09:31

@Sathya Was going to ask, you a regular racing gamer?

Sathya

@Mokubai yep..

@Mokubai raptr.com/sathyabhat & xfire.com/profile/sathyabhat .. though both have not been very accurate.

Mokubai

I saw Grid2 on offer the other day and was wondering if the Dirt/Grid series was any good

Sathya

Grid 2?

there is not Grid 2.... yet

Mokubai

Ah, might have been that one then, bad memory

Sathya

@Mokubai either Grid or Dirt 2.

Mokubai

09:37

Yeah, Grid looks like the one

Sathya

both the series have a good mix of arcadish-sim dynamics. It might trip few folks.

Mokubai

Been getting in to Test Drive Unlimited 2 lately, it's not a bad racer tbh

Anyway, I'll let you go play :)

slhck

09:52

... and I thought I was editing a lot :P

grawity

10:17

...I don't suppose there is an alt.tech-support.recovery.asshole-users?

I swear I'm not going back to ##linux for a looong time...

slhck

heh what's been going on?

Journeyman Geek

lol

on freenode?

Its a horrible place for tech support in general

grawity

Which is why I never ask for support in there. :D

Journeyman Geek

;p

#ubuntu was useless. that's one of the reasons i ended up here

even if i don't run it at the moment ;p

grawity

(I often help others on ##linux though)

anyway, just remembering a recent "discussion" on how kernel/Documentation/filesystems/ext2.txt is not a reliable enough source on the endianness of ext4 superblocks. :\

Journeyman Geek

10:23

i hang around foobar&grill sometimes ;p

Brandon

thanks for the edit to clean up my formatting slhck

slhck

Not a thing @Brandon – I always hope people don't mind! :)

Journeyman Geek

hm

Brandon

I just sent Spotify some fun feedback about how non-intuitive, non-standard, and annoying I find the process of exiting their client to be. :)

slhck

I've seen that in many Windows applications though

Journeyman Geek

10:30

electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/17302/… this belongs on SU. I've only seen something like this once.. cat peed on the LCD screen of someone i know...

Brandon

hopefully they'll fix it

Journeyman Geek

eh, least you can use that ;)

can't use last fm for free or spotify, or google music or amazon or....

slhck

@JourneymanGeek Same here.. sucks

Journeyman Geek

speaking of which.. utorrent's classic web client is borked with the new version. they also have a newfangled cloud one ... which also dosen't work

Brandon

yeah, it actually makes sense in most the other applications that behave that way though... It's kinda hard to receive IMs or calls if Google Talk or Skype aren't open in the background

Journeyman Geek

10:34

@Brandon: It still annoys me. Its non standard behaviour ;p

Brandon

the only reason i can see for spotify to not close is if they're trying to keep caching music and/or ads

grawity

Yeah, but if you accidentially close a music player instead of minimizing, you notice that, so not an excuse

slhck

@Brandon True that, but I always had the impression that's what the Minimize button was for in Windows... the app might then minimize to tray

Journeyman Geek

@grawity: x closes foobar2k ;p

slhck

and if you click X, you might get a dialog ("Do you really want to close?" – [ ] don't show this again)

Brandon

10:35

@slhck agreed... I pointed all of this out in my feedback to them =)

Journeyman Geek

as it should work

grawity

@JourneymanGeek: true (in default configuration, anyways) -- and so it does in about every music player I've used.

Brandon

ugh... those dialogs annoy me if they don't have the "don't show this again" option... like OpenPandora's

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Brandon: ANY non standard UI, unless necessary, annoys the hell out of me

slhck

agreed @JourneymanGeek :P

Journeyman Geek

10:37

granted, i spent about an hour in total, getting pidgin and xchat to fit in with my black theme....

Brandon

Amen to that @journey

unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if the answer to the question I posted is "no, there's no way to override that behavior"... at least short of any crazy hacks.

Well, I'm off to bed. Nite everyone.

slhck

hf @Brandon!

Sathya

11:02

Join the Super Users' Speed Wave & compare your internet connection to others' (Flash alert!)

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HackToHell

@Sathya which mode of connection is faster .. bridging or PPoE ?

Sathya

it doesn't matter.

grawity

At least one device will have to use PPPoE anyway

HackToHell

yes ... and what does cell rate mean ?

grawity

hm, I think I won a "worst upload speed" badge in that site.

HackToHell

11:06

I do not get it why my ping is less with US over India

Sathya

@HackToHell not sure I follow you.

HackToHell

@Sathya undersea cables have greater speed over messy connections in India ?

grawity

Or maybe just the machine in India you're pinging has a poor connection

Sathya

undersea cables & messy connections.. still not a clue.

HackToHell

India got the slowest connection speeds :( the global average is 10 Mbps

grawity

11:15

I was stuck with 512 kbps in the middle of Europe until last month... (they upgraded some stuff, increased to 4 Mbps.)

Meanwhile, the guys in the cities can get 40 Mbps for the same price. I'm jealous.

HackToHell

@grawity unlimited usage ?

grawity

Yeah. I suppose that's the up side of it

HackToHell

@grawity how much do you pay ?

I too have unlimited usage plan

grawity

37 LTL, which would be...

...where the hell is Google Currency Converter when I need it?!

Sathya

$15 USD acc to Google

grawity

11:18

"37 LTL in USD" didn't work for me :/

Sathya

I just typed in 37 LTL...

About 680 INR

pretty nice deal.

although the rates are not directly comparable

grawity

nah, "Nice deal" is 300 Mbps for $33 >_>

HackToHell

@Sathya seriously I pay well over that 750 for just around 0.80 Mbps

Sathya

@grawity those speeds are unknown to us >_>

HackToHell

I have never experienced speeds > 24 Mbps(At HCL )

Sathya

11:22

workplaces cap connections, else some moron will saturate the entire network

HackToHell

@Sathya lol

too much torrenting

grawity

Slow connections are still tolerable... upgrades and other miracles happen occassionally, anyway.

Filtering, or the crazy usage limits they have in USA, are harder :/

HackToHell

@grawity yep no unlimited plans in USA .. and no filtering here @ india atleast my ISP does Airtel do that @Sathya ?

Journeyman Geek

11:41

eh, 4 mbps for me, tho there's a pretty neat 50 mbps plan we may switch to at some point

we do have a transparent proxy setup to block about 100 sites that messes with ip address detection tho

in singapore, natch ;p

grawity

11:57

...*sigh*. Adding a sleep.d hook to reset the WLAN card was not enough; apparently it has to be done after a delay of 1½ seconds. So much for fast resume... On the bright side, at least it worked out of the box.

paradroid

Hhmn, I disagree about Freenode. I get the majority of my problems sorted out there.

although usually with the same sets of people

And it's immediate.

slhck

12:39

wow, not bad, 8 MBit/s when you're promised 25! >_>

paradroid

12:59

@slhck Is that cable?

slhck

@paradroid Yes it is, now I got 9-10 something

paradroid

As 25mbit seems low for VDSL and it seems too high for ADSL2

Juts got it connected or something?

slhck

Already got it since 2008 or so

originally it was 10 MBit/s, then they upgraded it for free, which was nice

paradroid

If it has gone down recently, they must have increased the contention ratio

BT Infinity VDSL here :) 40/10 uncapped

slhck

heh that is sick

paradroid

13:04

upload rate goes down during the day, to as low as 6mbit, which sucks

slhck

but it's a bit hard to get a good connection when you're in the middle of the city.. the outskirts have up to 100 (w/ fibre)

paradroid

download stays pretty consistant at around 37mbit

slhck

that's not too bad, is it?

(I mean, in comparison!)

paradroid

100mbit? that must be FTTP.

very few places have there here

grawity

MegaBytes, Megabits, millibits.

slhck

13:07

I suppose it's FTTP.. too bad though you can't get anything similar here. There's even only one provider, you don't have a choice...

paradroid

13:27

What is going on with this advert? It has an Apple sign on it, suggesting you can run MacOS apps on Windows Azure, but I cannot find any information on this, and how could it be running on non-Apple hardware anyway?

windowsazurepass.com/…

Oh, iPhone

paradroid

13:41

It seems that Apple's iCloud actually uses Windows Azure and Amazon Web Services for hosting

Sathya

@paradroid afaik it's using them as a load balancer, I might be wrong

paradroid

@Sathya Not according to Wikipedia chir.ag/wiki/icloud

Simon Sheehan

Morning everyone

paradroid

hi

Sathya

hmm indeed. shrug knowing Apple, they'll change it sooner or later

Simon Sheehan

13:47

This guy flagged my answer as correct... Then seems to have put a sort of contradictory comment? Odd

1

A: Which UNIX or Linux distribution works on a Dell M5010 without having to compile any drivers?

You last tried it 6 months ago, and things have changed since then. Your best bet would be to get an Ubuntu or Fedora LiveCD, and then booting into that. If you are able to use your wireless on the LiveCD, then you should be fine to do a full system installation.

paradroid

He seems generally confused

Simon Sheehan

Indeed yes

Sathya

> I do not plan on paying for drivers

say what.

> Also I will not do this and this is not a solution if it does not include drivers.

that's arrogance.

Simon Sheehan

Yet he flagged my answer as right, which boggles my mind

Sathya

yeah.

I was looking for flags, but I found none, confused me when @SimonSheehan mentioned "... flagged...

Simon Sheehan

13:58

Marked my answer*

Haha. @Sathya your moderator instincts are kicking in ;)

Sathya

hi @Jacob

@SimonSheehan hehe :)

Jacob

@Sathya Hello I'm currently defaulting over here from serverfault :)

Sathya

welcome to Root Access. :)

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya There, a flag! (For real!)

Welcome to the club @Jacob ;)

Jacob

@SimonSheehan Thanks

Simon Sheehan

15:08

So what's everyone up to on this fine day?

slhck

Ugh, programming C++ :/

and you, are you surviving the heat wave?

Simon Sheehan

@slhck well temperatures down to 39 here, which feels cold compared to 49 ;) so it's all good with a pool and some AC

Going to go read outside, be back in a bit! Some shade finally

slhck

@SimonSheehan Well that's okay then – go you and have some real life! :D

Simon Sheehan

15:23

@slhck and damn it's hot out. Back to reading on the couch a bit ;)

The shade improves by the afternoon so I'll Probably be out again then

slhck

lol sounds like what I would've done :P

Simon Sheehan

Haha. I do like the outdoors but this is a bit much :P

Saw the final Harry potter and decided to reread the book now

slhck

I've never seen any of the movies, only read the first book many many years ago when it first came out

bckbck

@SimonSheehan Harry Potter? You reminded me of this:

►

epic laugh

Sathya

@SimonSheehan messing with bind :-s

Simon Sheehan

15:33

@slhck been reading them since I was 6 ;) huge fan of the series

@Sathya and how's that working out so far?

Sathya

screwy.

Simon Sheehan

Ouch.

Jacob

No offense guys: your internets are teh badz :)

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya why are you messing around with bind though? :p

Sathya

@SimonSheehan remember my vps setup

Simon Sheehan

15:39

@Sathya oh yeah - why did you switch to it from shared?

Sathya

@SimonSheehan costs is one, consolidation is another

@Jacob tell me about it :/

Jacob

@Sathya are you having issues with Bind?

Sathya

@Jacob yep, I am..

Jacob

@Sathya OK :) check the speedwave

@Sathya Like?

Sathya

@Jacob oh I did, I'll all J

Simon Sheehan

15:41

@Sathya What were you paying for shared compared to VPS?

Sathya

@Jacob first point I don't know what the heck I'm doing :P I've setup the zones & named.conf - trying to ping the ns I just setup seems to fail ( on the server itself)

@SimonSheehan $60 for the shared, $20 for the VPS

Jacob

@Sathya whats your domain?

Sathya

@Jacob sathyabh.at

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya $60 for shared? That's outrageous. I pay $10 a month for unlimited everything on a shared hostgator plan

paradroid

Huh? Shared hosting costing more than a VPS?

Sathya

15:43

@SimonSheehan $60/yr ;)

Simon Sheehan

Ooh. Wow, $20 a year for a VPS? What's the specs on that puppy?

paradroid

is it that really cheap one in california?

Jacob

@Sathya whats the VPS IP? I get an A record back

Sathya

nothing fancy - securedragon.net/openvz.php

Jacob

@paradroid BuyVM.net

Sathya

15:44

@Jacob sorry right now it's still pointing to the old ns setup.

Jacob

@Sathya what do your Confs look like?

Sathya

@Jacob the zone conf?

Jacob

@Sathya yes

Sathya

;
; BIND data file for sathyabh.at
;
$TTL 604800
@ IN SOA ns1.sathyabh.at. info.sathyabh.at. (
2011072301 ; Serial
7200 ; Refresh
120 ; Retry
2419200 ; Expire
604800) ; Default TTL
;
@ IN NS ns1.sathyabh.at.
@ IN NS ns2.sathyabh.at.
sathyabh.at. IN MX 10 aspmx.l.google.com.
sathyabh.at. IN A 8.22.203.109
ns1 IN A 8.22.203.109
ns2 IN A 8.22.203.109

paradroid

@Jacob No, it wasn't that one I was thinking of. This one was really cheap

Simon Sheehan

15:46

Damn, $20 for that is dirt cheap. You found a good deal @Sathya.

paradroid

I just use Rackspace, partly because they have UK based servers

Sathya

@SimonSheehan they currently have a deal ar $14/yr

Simon Sheehan

Heh, wow. I'll still keep using Hostgator though. My parents like it, and they have great service

Jacob

@Sathya drop your Cnames, use A records

paradroid

he's not using CNAMEs

Sathya

15:50

@Jacob well, dropped, didn't help :(

Jacob

@paradroid FTP WWW

@Sathya right let me see what you server tells dig

paradroid

Oh, I didn't press expand

I guess those are pointing to a DynDNS service though?

Sathya

@paradroid nopes..

Jacob

sathyabh.at. IN MX 1 aspmx.l.google.com.
sathyabh.at. IN A 8.22.203.109
ns1 IN A 8.22.203.109
ns2 IN A 8.22.203.109
www IN A 8.22.203.109
mail IN A 8.22.203.109
ftp IN A 8.22.203.109

@Sathya also make sure to add Googles Backup MX

let me know when you swap that please

Sathya

@Jacob done, still the same

(haven't added backup MX, will do once this is done)

Jacob

15:58

@Sathya works for me

@Sathya are you trying to lookup on the server?

@Sathya WAIT I know why

@Sathya Instead of ping use dig @127.0.0.1 (domain here)

that way it'll query BIND and not another server

Sathya

@Jacob yes I am :-s

ok, hang on

:1425244 ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30994
    ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;ns1.sathyabh.at.               IN      A

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    ns1.sathyabh.at.        604800  IN      A       8.22.203.109

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    sathyabh.at.            604800  IN      NS      ns2.sathyabh.at.
    sathyabh.at.            604800  IN      NS      ns1.sathyabh.at.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

so this is what I get, I guess it's right?

Jacob

@Sathya Yes

Sathya

@Jacob awesome, thank you!

Jacob

@Sathya you're safe to switch the DNS over now.

@Sathya not a problem

Sathya

@Jacob :) will do soon!

but now, pizza's here, time for dinner

Simon Sheehan

16:09

Mmm pizza. Enjoy it @Sathya!

Sathya

thanks!

and Top Gear to watch!

later!

Jacob

@Sathya US or UK?

Sathya

UK, the US one sucks

Jacob

@Sathya :(

Simon Sheehan

Top gear, fun. You've got quite the night going on then ;)

Sathya

16:19

yep, thanks @SimonSheehan!

Simon Sheehan

16:31

Gonna see about making sone grilled cheese now..

Simon Sheehan

17:16

Does anyone know the difference between LED and LCD? which is better?

Daniel Beck

Hi all

@slhck Are you using OS X Lion right now?

slhck

@DanielBeck Nope, I can't switch yet — still have some software in use that's not going to work

@SimonSheehan On TVs?

Daniel Beck

@slhck OK thanks anyway

And here we go again, yet another Finder crash...

slhck

hm, doesn't sound good

Daniel Beck

It turns out I am not capable of learning that upgrading software early is a stupid idea :)

Simon Sheehan

17:23

@slhck yep - were replacing an old CRT TV :p

slhck

@DanielBeck Do you have a backup? :P

Simon Sheehan

@Daniel I'm hearing a lot of finder issues and lag on it

slhck

@SimonSheehan LEDs are better afaik, I have one and I love it.

Daniel Beck

@slhck Sure

Jacob

@SimonSheehan LCD(Liquid Crystal Display) (Light emitting Diode)

LEDs are sharper

Less prone to "memory" or "ghosting"

but are more expensive

Simon Sheehan

17:25

They don't seem ridiculously more expensive though.

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan My machine even froze this afternoon for no good reason… x.0 software... sigh

Simon Sheehan

@Daniel Call apple support and demand patches! :p

Jacob

@DanielBeck Exactly why I'm waiting

Daniel Beck

Anyone else using OS X Lion who could verify a bug in Safari for me?

Jacob

@DanielBeck second problem Chrome +FF>Safari :)

Simon Sheehan

17:27

@slhck Yeah that's what some else said too, I'll check out prices. I'd love to use my PS3 in HD more than anything xD. Analog cable though, all the way

Daniel Beck

@Jacob If you can tell me how to download any file in Chrome, sure.

@Jacob At least I don't use my Mac that much anymore, for home use my iPad has almost replaced it actually...

Jacob

@DanielBeck what do you mean?

Daniel Beck

@Jacob You encounter a web server that doesn't properly serve the .rar file type. You want to download the file using Firefox or Chrome, but both of them just load the tens-of-megabytes file for displaying binary crap. What do you do?

William Hilsum

@JourneymanGeek Sorry for the very late response - I have never seen one that big... if you look back a while ago, I was wondering how they can work as they are now so small!

I have even seen a few engineering samples, but, never that big!

slhck

@SimonSheehan Check for latency though, my Samsung LED has a dedicated game mode and it still feels a bit sluggish

Jacob

17:31

@DanielBeck Use Curl (terminal)

Daniel Beck

@Jacob I rest my case.

Simon Sheehan

@slhck I've had good success with Sony, so I'm checking them out

slhck

@SimonSheehan The video quality is excellent though – heck, I work in this field and I'm very sensitive to that :P

Daniel Beck

@Jacob I don't particularly want to use Safari, but I find all the other options lacking in many areas, and not just UI design.

slhck

@DanielBeck One thing I haven't looked at yet: does the installer create a permanent partition on the drive?

Simon Sheehan

17:35

@slhck Good point. Hey, anythings a step up from this monsters CRT ;)

Daniel Beck

@slhck Yes, 650MB recovery partition

slhck

@SimonSheehan Well I wish I still had my CRT for the SNES

Daniel Beck

@slhck

$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Servus10 HD 499.2 GB disk0s2
3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3

slhck

@DanielBeck Oh, okay, that's not as big as I thought

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Can't you still use it? :s

slhck

17:37

@SimonSheehan I theoretically could, but it looks like cr*p :/

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Ouch then :/ You can actually pickup little 17' CRTs here for like $50. Me and my dad found one at the grocery store :p

slhck

@SimonSheehan lol yeah I guess I can pick some up for free at the local waste dump :P

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Yep. But with a PS3 I'm a little dissapointed by the CRT display. I've got a PS3, Wii, and Ps2 on it. I'd like the PS3 On HDMI, Wii on component, and ps2 can just use A/V

slhck

@SimonSheehan Sounds like a plan! I've played a PS3 on a 20yr old CRT once, wasn't that great :D

Simon Sheehan

@slhck indeed, not nearly as fun. When my parents aren't around I like to move the PS3 onto the HDTV and it's absolutely stunning :D

But yeah, CRTs are a bit power hungry, so LED would be good

slhck

17:45

Oh damn I almost forgot to watch Breaking Bad's S04E01!

Simon Sheehan

Be back in a couple of minutes too

slhck

hf @SimonSheehan, I'll be back later

Daniel Beck

@slhck Is there an "Event Log" in 10.6's AppleScript Editor?

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