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00:02
@allquixotic anything in particular?
@Bob I guess you need the latest version of Java to update your Java
You better update that Java!
Bob
Bob
00:20
I may be getting a tablet for Christmas =x
Won't be high end but I'm still excited =p
anyone can help me with Windows 8 boot problem?
00:37
Well what is the problem?
Okay so I have a live cd with Fedora 19, and I have a laptop preinstalled with Windows 8. I am trying to boot the laptop from the live cd/dvd, but I can't.
I tried disabling UEFi mode and enabling it but nohting works.
fedora 19 should work with secure boot too. odd
all I get is windows boot manager asking me to select an OS to boot from, and Windows 8 is the only option, and the DVD kinda gets ignored.
AMD Catalyst 13.12 is out for HD5000 and later cards for Linux and Windows. Try it out, and tell me how badly it sucks :( :)
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@Bob HALP!!! lol.
@Andy: hm.
I THINK you're in fastboot mode
00:49
I think I disabled that fastboot mode.
I tried other DVDs and they too didn't boot
so what do you suggest me doing? @JourneymanGeek
I'm not sure
Okay, thanks
I don't have anything new and prebuilt so I've not actually messed with windows 8 boot in that manner
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic hmm?
oh
I understand
Bob
Bob
00:55
@Andy try hitting F12 at startup
fully spam it from the time you press the power button
and then
Bob
Bob
@Andy well, a dialog of some sort usually comes up
yeah
It has 4 options
Bob
Bob
01:13
@Andy well, pick the relevant one
 
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04:42
@Bob this does not look real? it is humerous, just doesnt look like a real MS requester unless it is a win8 thing. google.com/… and assuming I did it right i would expect to see another somewhere?
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek I actually got it in a Win8 Enterprise Evaluation VM I haven't booted in months
I can guarantee it's 100% real, if you believe me :P
also, you'll have to reevaluate 'real MS request'
as @allquixotic can attest to, MS has gone to great lengths to informalise all dialogs
@Bob i do, that other one said it happens WHEN they dont check for the 30 days
Bob
Bob
and it's fucking terrible
@Bob so now they are not just obnoxious, but they are obmoxious and take up the whole screen :-) whats next ? they are metro and only work in full screen :-)
Bob
Bob
05:00
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A: What can go wrong with composing a method name out of a string?

enderland What can go wrong with composing a method name out of a string? If myObject[filterMethod]() doesn't exist, you could crash your application. If your application is part of the safety controls for nuclear missile fire control, you could be potentially disabling critical safety controls. If ...

I think they launch nuclear missiles with XP, because >win7 will collapse into an unoperational ball a few months after the net goes down :-)
and they thought Y2K was bad , but everything is set up far more devistating than 13 years ago.
The hackers will rule the planet, and the rest of us will be staring at requesters whining about dead links.
China will launch a missile strike but because of java code on thier AGPS, when it looses connection the GPS will fail, and missiles will drop harmlessly into the ocean
half the american fleet of ships will be in the middle of nowhere driving around in circles trying to keep thier robotic big guns from friendly firing on just about anything. Because 10 years ago they gave up on making tech in the US for thier own military, and started importing thier brightest hardware.
The zombies, billions of people whos lives have revoloved around a connection, will wander about aimlessly trying to find food, and eating eachother, when the online Food ordering system goes down.
Bob
Bob
05:18
YES
IntelliJ has a Visual Studio keymap!
Heck, I'd be willing to pay the $199 for that
@Psycogeek IIRC the US mil is actually quite adamant about only purchasing locally manufactured tech
officially, anyway
Hellooo
Bob
Bob
@Clippy seriously, you're scary
Why ?
lol
Bob
Bob
> Clippy
> Hellooo
@Bob that was then, now they have imported lots of stuff.
05:21
sketchtoy.com/57384098 Can someone answer this ? :D ... I'm extroverted, sorry.
lol
@Bob sure its not like they buy turkish F-18s but they have gotten aproval again and again for importing from what may very well be "the enemy" some day. Even back when i was there, ground transporation (cars) were all being phased in from other countries.
Japanese communication systems, Taiwan computers, China goods would be found in all the 80% of the operations that make up the "Office work" or the whole of everything that doesnt drop bombs and aim guns
Bob
Bob
@Clippy that is an awesome app
ahem
anyway, generally, no, your ISP can't
depends on what kind of VPN tunnel you're using and how secure it is
yeah, as long as it's a secure tunnel and all traffic is indeed going through the VPN, your ISP should only see the encrypted data going to and from your VPN endpoint
05:45
yup
well, unless you're using your ISP's DNS servers from the VPN, but even in that case someone would have to cross-reference the traffic
(and then of course they'd only see the DNS resolutions)
most people in the know would use a public dns, or one they trust ;p
06:07
hopefully. that said, most people in the know wouldn't fall victim to such an issue anyway.
06:39
Anyone know off of the top of their head how to delete a folder with a lot of reallylongfilesnamesthatcan'tbedeletednormally.txt files?
with a linux livecd? ;p
:p
unfortunately no
AFAIK you need to use a third-party file manager that supports long file names
the other thing you can do is try renaming non-critical folders above it to get the filepath below 255 chars
though if it's extremely low-level/stored in a critical directory, obviously that won't work very well
Meh, was trying to help a non technical user but I gave up on her
Bob
Bob
06:54
@JourneymanGeek or tunnel DNS through the VPN
@Bob: yup, or that
certainly not use your ISP DNS statically ;p
Bob
Bob
@ekaj either short filenames or \\?\ UNC paths would work
if invalid characters, you'll have to use the short filenames
A guy said there's a robocopy trick, I'm not with the person, there are like 900 files to be deleted, explaining command prompt is a pain... etc etc
Bob
Bob
move \\?\C:\verylongpath C:\shortpath\
then go in and do your deletions normally
kinda like @winterswift's suggestion, except \\?\ has an effectively infinite limit
so you can move it in one step
@Bob yeah, if you're dealing with a large number of files my solution is terrible to do manually
Bob
Bob
07:00
> The Windows API has many functions that also have Unicode versions to permit an extended-length path for a maximum total path length of 32,767 characters. This type of path is composed of components separated by backslashes, each up to the value returned in the lpMaximumComponentLength parameter of the GetVolumeInformation function (this value is commonly 255 characters). To specify an extended-length path, use the "\\?\" prefix. For example, "\\?\D:\very long path".
I said effectively infinite, because if your path is 32kB you're crazy - and you have bigger problems
there's also this osmstudios.net/projects/path-too-long and a variety of other tools
Bob
Bob
@winterswift ya, they probably use the same extended functions as the UNC path does
in fact, they'd have to
07:26
I think there's less expensive than competitors LG Nexus 5 now that has 2.3GHz quad-core processor. First I thought about Nexus 4 1.5GHz quad-core and now 5. I hate when I install a number of optional apps on my oldie Desire S with Android 2.3.3 it takes 5 minutes to boot but after factory reset it boots under 1 minute.
Bob
Bob
07:49
I got... annoyed.
yay reductio ad absurdum! :D
08:00
Boy do I feel like buying a phone for the sole purpose of having a replacement device for less than one month.
@Thor Where's your hammer?
08:42
@Boris_yo Got it home in my shed!
09:12
@Thor Can I borrow it?
@Boris_yo Why not!
09:56
@OliverSalzburg You! Sup?
@Boris_yo Late for work :P
But still the first one in the office \o/
Heh, this is fun. When I show/hide the bookmark bar in Chrome (Ctrl+Shift+B) it takes like 3 seconds to replicate that change to Chrome on my laptop
@OliverSalzburg What is your complaint about? Time it takes?
@Boris_yo No complaint. I just wasn't aware that this is even synched. It's fun to watch the toolbar slide up and down on another computer :P
11:00
man i would rather see a long string of opinion (closed questions) than a short stream of nothing from drive by questioners who never answer a single question, and have gone elsewhere (proably a real forum) to finish.
> Windows 8,1
Must be a European version number
We got closed questions with "content" and tens of thousands of questions that are free to roam, that will never have content. People should become more content with content :-)
@Psycogeek I think the problem with the drive-by questions is that a lot of them are tech support questions, and the troubleshooting aspect of that is more appropriate for a full-on forum.
11:32
@OliverSalzburg Oh you meant sync? But bookmarks sync is the one I am aware currently. Didn't know you can actually sync actions :|
Bob
Bob
11:42
@OliverSalzburg christmas time ;P
tomorrow is going to be so empty
has the glass on capacitive screens, like phones , become thinner over time? Where it started with more thick glass then progressed to better and thinner stuff?
Bob
Bob
I don't think anyone is going in next week
oh wait, one or two are
It's about time to call the end of this month's work.
looks like they need people to clean up after santa youtube.com/watch?v=NRLMS5amqC8 (santas rampage janitor game)
12:34
what nonsense?
kal kyu?
aaj kyu nahi?
TOTAL BAKWAAS
i hate papa
dimag kharaab kar dia hai
R E V E N G E
Anonymous
sup
hi guys
is it possible to delete 1 row in Google "Excel" Doc?
Google call it spreadsheet
i have 2800 rows in it
and the only option i see there is to delete all the rows
not just one
so i don't want to delete all 2800 but only 1 row...
and the data i put in are from a form
i put data into a form
and then see the results in a kind of spreadsheet
so it would take me 1000 hours to fill the form for 2800 instances again
12:57
@EinsteinsGrandson wouldnt that mess up the numbers to remove a row? how about select the rowS you wish to move, cut and paste them up one. (after saving the document 15 times so you can get back to prior revisions)
the problem of Google is that
the summary doesn't change
even when i correct the data in the spreadsheet
data will be corrected in the spreadsheet
@EinsteinsGrandson some button to re-process the math over again, once changes are final?
but summary will show chart pies with the original wrong data i put when i was filling the form in
no button like that...
i think
I cant see doing any of this via a web interface to begin with, enough things go wrong when working locally
what do you mean?
the form and data are online
on Google Docs
i don't have them in my PC
13:01
@EinsteinsGrandson i mean i dont even like "live" e-mail :-)
i know
but it's safe
last time i deleted Excel with 400 instannces
didnt recover it
is mine , mine , i work on it on My computer, than transfer it to the web.
it's lost forever
i know
but stilll
Google does the charts and summaries for you
you dont have to upload it on google docs anymore
and other people can see the data instantly...
dont have to wait until you upload data...
Google docs have pros and cons for sure
@EinsteinsGrandson right back to incremental saves. not just saves but save01 save 02 , cause if i mess up on save40 when i am on save45 i might have to go back to save39
yeah
so you dont know how to solve my problem?
13:04
@EinsteinsGrandson did you try the copy paste?
of the "cells" thats what works in wurd and pocket excell
;o)
ok
i will try
i deleted 2 rows
but the summary does not change
this is why:
"The summary is created from a copy of all submitted data. It is not possible to change that copy so your changes to the spreadsheet have no effect. "
so even when i do some changes in the spreadsheet, the summary will ignore the changes and will show chart pies from the original wrong data...
Shame on you Google for not fixing this for 4 years!
;o)
@EinsteinsGrandson yup they got some issues, i was using thier "help" and instead just get the forum (google group) with all the frilling problems.
easy way to solve it for google, just call it beta :-)
One person said "of course they wouldnt want to re-calculate the whole thing on each change" but nobody said where the button is to do that anyways. Then they say "wait for it" :-) but it never came , another thread ends with "glad they have this bug filed" I would be more like "who tested this stuff".
13:24
fuck
do you know the telephone number to Google Support
@EinsteinsGrandson i suppose you read this ? support.google.com/drive/answer/…
i want to call them
right now
;o)
no , i did not
read it
why?
it is about moving rows
@EinsteinsGrandson I can go over there for you if you like, all i have to do is drive around the local area till i find all the porches mercedes and BMWs and i am there.
not editing row in a spreadsheet so that the summary will reflect the changes i made
OK, go there
and write me the phone number here afterwards
in here...
Superuser chat
;o)
i will be pleased to talk to them so that they fix it in less than 1 week
or 2 weeks at most
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Q: Reseting responses in a GoogleDocs Form

Piotr MigdalI want to reuse a GoogleDocs Form, with (almost) the same Form, but with fresh Responses. I did copy it, but I don't know how to reset responses (not reseting the form itself, i.e. Form/Delete Form). I manually erased the previous entries. However, they are still treated as entries with values ...

This is solving my problem?
Can you try it please?
I tried
But it doesn't work for me
Or I did not do it correctly ...
@EinsteinsGrandson you should read the TOU first :-) where it says "dont work to hard on one project when it proabably wont work right, and you aint paying nothing so dont complain"
@EinsteinsGrandson productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/docs/gp4STXPcKP8 I was reading this, and some of them tried it with a test and it worked, but it doesnt?
13:31
could you try?
if it works ?
please
;o)
@EinsteinsGrandson I dont make spread sheets :-) Really i dont know how to , although i have, i just guessed a lot.
whatever
i just lost 2 hours of my life
;o)
am going to work again
thanks anyway
I got a #2 pen and a thing called a journal and a ledger and no mater how screwed up all the data is still there.
what do you mean?
@EinsteinsGrandson paper :-)
handy dandy calculator
never fails.
i am going offline
from SuperUser
bye
see you next time
thank you for your help
Well i hope you get it to work, "Wait for it"
Bob
Bob
13:40
@Psycogeek But good luck reading my handwriting :P
@Bob I forgot how to write :-) i cant find the button on the pencil
@Boris_yo It syncs settings. The visibility of the bookmarks bar is apparently a setting
I will have to say that some amazing compilations of data (of various types) have been done with the web and online google sheet stuff and all. . . . then later was left 3/4 finished and as bad as a dead link.
(all good ideas of mice and men, but doesnt solve the constant maintance issue)
@OliverSalzburg I'd hate that. Thankfully I never ever synched a browser I use.
(I use xmarks for crossbrowser bookmarks sync)
Bob
Bob
13:55
@allquixotic hi
> Your position in queue is 1. Your estimated wait time is less than 1 min.
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