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Braiam

15:00

Jimmy Hoffa

@JourneymanGeek So long as the science get's done...

Journeyman Geek

hm

Braiam

I can't read...

jokerdino

@Braiam i too prefer black text in a white background

Bob

I wonder if it's just some cron script everyone forgot about. That shuts down at 12:45 AM. They couldn't (be bothered) finding the source, so just rigged up a CD tray with a paperclip blutacked to it to push the power button at exactly 1:45 AM.

Journeyman Geek

15:01

lol

allquixotic

lol

Journeyman Geek

ok. fuck this shit.

I'll try again in the morning

Braiam

@jokerdino meh, only the messages body is like that.... other thinks are in white...

allquixotic

:(

Journeyman Geek

and probably borrow my brother's phone and use his data connection

Bob

15:02

Actually, fixed something like that my first job. Pretty sure I've said it here before.

Journeyman Geek

(since I tried my phone already)

Bob

They would just turn the server back on every morning...

Braiam

... @Bob please, don't do that... poor button has to get a clip inserted everynight...

allquixotic

the WTFs in real life are truly frightening

Bob

@JourneymanGeek good luck!

allquixotic

15:04

mine is 50k SLOC of VBS with multiple HTAs, IE 6.0 APIs, registry writes, also that Cthulhu code I pasted a few months ago with writes to HKCU\Software\Classes to "register" a component that is supposed to be available only if you have Visual Studio

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: edit approved ;p

allquixotic

remember this?

gfjmrfkfifkmkfffrlmmgmhmnlulkmfmqkqj

looks like cat typing, but it's totally not

Bob

oh god

that's the VBS thing, right?

a CLSID or something? wait no that's hex

jokerdino

@allquixotic is that the chrome web store id for extensions?

allquixotic

@Bob it's the "license key" for MSComDlg.CommonDialog

function registerComDlg
	Set objRegistry = GetObject("winmgmts:\\.\root\default:StdRegProv")
	objRegistry.CreateKey &H80000001, "Software\CLASSES\Licenses\4D553650-6ABE-11cf-8ADB-00AA00C00905"
	objRegistry.SetStringValue &H80000001, "Software\CLASSES\Licenses\4D553650-6ABE-11cf-8ADB-00AA00C00905", "", "gfjmrfkfifkmkfffrlmmgmhmnlulkmfmqkqj"
end function

Bob

15:07

@allquixotic ...why would that have a license key? o.O

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allquixotic

@Bob because apparently Microsoft didn't want to make that control available unless you write those keys into the registry... even though it ships as part of Windows out of the box

Bob

o.O

allquixotic

it's a way to display a very nice, and featureful, file open/save dialog box from pure COM languages without a builtin one, like VBScript

it's such a great COM control, and it supports all the latest Windows 7/8 styles and everything

Nifle

Anyone know of a way to find the last known ip address of a domain that recently expiered (like yesterday)?

Bob

15:08

@allquixotic not sure if that's more or less hackish than exporting the same functions via .NET (embed the source and compile it on the user's machine)

That Brazilian Guy

@Braiam What is it?

Bob

@Nifle dnshistory.org

allquixotic

@Bob well you can't call native Win32 C APIs from VBScript, so the only other option would be to write a .NET DLL that calls the APIs you need (or even do it using System.Windows.WinForms.FileOpenDialog) and register it in HKCU\Software\Classes

which is actually a very viable solution, but I didn't know about that at the time, and there was kind of a disdain for shipping an "opaque" DLL with the source for this particular task :S

Hennes

Read post. Think: That needs a powerconfig -lastwake. Read comments

So what does powercfg -lastwake print? – Oliver Salzburg♦ Oct 26 '12 at 14:09

Bob

@allquixotic yea, which is why I suggested shipping .NET source (e.g. C#) and compiling it on the target machine

allquixotic

15:11

them: "you have to write X in VBScript"
me: "OK! /me writes it in C#.NET, compiles it into a DLL and registers it, then calls it from VBScript"
them: "/disdain /dubious Where is the source code? Why can't I see the source when I open the DLL in Notepad? Does this contain a virus?!"

Bob

most Windows machines have the command-line C# compiler, considering it comes with the .NET Framework installation

allquixotic

@Bob or better yet, call Powershell (which can call the appropriate .NET APIs) from VBScript, lol

Bob

good point

heck, I think PS can even run C# from a string if you want to avoid the shitty language

allquixotic

yeah it can

Braiam

@allquixotic why a virus?! why not a trojan? I mean... trojan seems more like the correct definition, no?

allquixotic

15:13

still, I get the fewest glares / uncertain shifty glances / nervous laughs / weird questions like "Can't we just ask them to type in the file name in an InputBox?" if I don't ship a DLL

if it's all in VBS, even if it's horrid VBS, they just smile and accept it

Braiam

@allquixotic WHY!

allquixotic

@Braiam call it organizational culture

stockholm syndrome

I don't know

Journeyman Geek

lol

helsinki syndrome!

Braiam

I call it... living in the Caverns.... in the 2013....

allquixotic

fortunately, there are a few elements within The Customer's ranks who are attempting a Ruby/Selenium coup d'etat, and have been mildly successful at earning it semi-official status as accepted software

Journeyman Geek

15:15

(also superuser.com/questions/660247/… I am almost tempted to tell this guy "your system is just getting old and cranky")

allquixotic

there's a good chance that it might soon play a larger role

Bob

@allquixotic Again, you could write it all in C# or VB.NET and embed it in VBS :P

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek i almost thought it was a real one

Nifle

@Bob Seems only to work for existing domains

allquixotic

and to be honest, relative to VBScript, I am perfectly happy with writing our test harness code in Ruby... in fact, the features available in Ruby (and apparently Gems are OK) make my mouth water

Journeyman Geek

15:15

lol

Bob

@Nifle well, could you provide the domain name?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: might also give you more flexibility in terms of... everything

allquixotic

Ruby can call Win32 APIs, and it also has a TON of extremely useful functionality in gems or code snippets

I am totally trying to back the guys who are doing the Ruby uprising and give them more clout

Bob

> i ve recently got the PSU of my pc repaired .. damaged capacitors

...

allquixotic

oh, random remarks about things nobody cares about:

Nifle

15:17

@Bob klinikkurt.se

allquixotic

I turned in two Motorola Droid Razr Maxx smartphones to Verizon and got $120 back... their "recycling" plan :D

(old phones no longer being used)

and also got them to overnight us a replacement to the Droid Razr Maxx HD that had a puckery battery

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

the new one isn't puckery... it looks like a new phone, so it's either very lightly used or never used

Journeyman Geek

nice

allquixotic

the old one is in the mail today to Verizon

Journeyman Geek

15:18

what's puckery mean?

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek the back of the case was visibly puckered out because the battery expanded

a tech on the Motorola forums told me that it was at risk of catching fire

Nifle

Think I found it on whois.domaintools.com

allquixotic

I sent it to Motorola for warranty repair but they said it was unrepairable and sent it back

Bob

@Nifle whois.domaintools.com/klinikkurt.se

@Nifle whoops too late :P

allquixotic

but Verizon will provide a "certified like new" (basically a step up from refurbished, but not necessarily out of the factory; could've been in a customer's hand at some point) unit upon customer request for almost any reason

and take your old one and repair it and put it in the certified like new pool to give to someone else

Journeyman Geek

15:20

ahh

allquixotic

Verizon's warranty/insurance is better than Motorola's manufacturer warranty :P

Bob

@allquixotic Verizon has an ongoing interest in you.

allquixotic

@Bob well yeah, I buy into expensive full retail phones on a yearly basis and pay them a lot of money every month... I'd say they get their fair share of profit from me

as long as I keep my unlimited data, I really don't mind paying them whatever they want from me

so far it's a tenuous but mutually beneficial relationship

if they instated a new rule that said, to keep unlimited you have to buy a new phone at full retail every year, I'd be like, sweet, I already do that, no problem :D

Boris_yo

@allquixotic You seem to be more of a mobile user than desktop.

allquixotic

@Boris_yo faveset.com

that says it all

Journeyman Geek

15:23

lol

is anyone really a desktop user these days?

(ok, so I am)

allquixotic

I am...

Braiam

I am...

Journeyman Geek

(tho, I use my laptop and tablet at school, tablets are nice second screens)

Boris_yo

@allquixotic You don't need to tether if you surf on mobile, unless you share phone's unlimited plan with others.

Journeyman Geek

especially with quickoffice

allquixotic

15:25

@Boris_yo I don't only surf on mobile, and I don't have a landline internet connection

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Yeah they are good for game cheatcodes, walkthroughs, computer repair manuals etc.

allquixotic

lol

my parents / other people I help with tech are used to me toting my Surface Pro under my arm and my smartphone in my pocket (with wifi tethering on) when I make a "site visit" to help them with a computer problem

Boris_yo

@allquixotic Serious. Ever tried these without secondary screen always tabbing out? Pain eh?

Braiam

the only place where I find a tablet useful is reading something in bed... again, that normally don't happen

Boris_yo

@allquixotic Not only that. You can give them your tablet while you are fixing their computer and make it as added value to your repair service so they won't feel skimpy when paying you for your work in the end. They feel better > you feel better.

@Braiam And your tablet is?

Journeyman Geek

15:33

lol

or reading on the bus

my laptop is my bedside system/at desk second screen ;p

plus i think the motherboard is also damaged only 2 out of 6 usb ports are working — vikram18081994 9 mins ago

no shit sherlock.

Canadian Luke

@allquixotic Thank you! I'm here all day!

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek How do you like 2 movies by the way about him?

Canadian Luke

Next time, I'll have my Windows 98SE Virtual Machine set up to fuck with them!

Journeyman Geek

lol

or the miniseries

nice modernisation of the man

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek He wasn't that smart and slo-mo tactical when it came to fights, was he? It was just Hollywood's twist to appeal to modern audience?

Journeyman Geek

15:42

yes

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke :D

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Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Then with same success why not make movies about Stalin, Lenin, Lev Tolstoy, Mark Twain or american president and modernize them too?

Canadian Luke

@allquixotic @JourneymanGeek I just posted the story on our IT forum at my job, and my boss told me to forward it to the newspaper... After laughing, of course

Journeyman Geek

;p

Oliver Salzburg

15:52

@CanadianLuke What story?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: abraham lincoln. Vampire hunter

Canadian Luke

@oliver chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/11683591#11683591

@Boris_yo Epic Rap Battles of History

Boris_yo

@CanadianLuke Elvis Presley?

Canadian Luke

I never liked his music, so I never paid attention to his movies

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Abraham Lincoln revived to take place of Obama in our current day. Good for plot?

@CanadianLuke He has movies actually?

Canadian Luke

15:56

Apparently

Journeyman Geek

hm

Boris_yo

There's one thing I understand about political conspiracies in this world - everybody wants to take over the world. And they give us hints through Hollywood's movies. Dr. Evil is a good example but it is served as comedy to not reveal "much".

Journeyman Geek

naw

now, teddy roosevelt

thats a president for the ages.

A snake bit Teddy Roosevelt. after 6 days of gut wrenching agony, the snake died.

Boris_yo

16:12

What's the difference between ammo and amminition? Abbreviation?

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo They also seem to give me hints through my alphabet soup

The other day I was cooking some up, and the letters aligned to say "BORIS KNOWS"

3

Boris_yo

@OliverSalzburg I doubt they have so much resources to reach everyone personally.

@OliverSalzburg "... what you did last summer!"

@JourneymanGeek Interesting. Such things are common in Russia.

Oliver Salzburg

5

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: "Dead Fly In Soup"

Boris_yo

16:26

Remember MDK PC game back in 1997? For its time it had decent graphics and great background music. You could play it in DOS as well.

►

Braiam

16:37

I always have wondered this but... how can I get the darn grade symbol in the US keyboard?

Simon Sheehan

grade?

Braiam

and you must be joking me:

Simon Sheehan

Do you mean this symbol? °

Braiam

@SimonSheehan yeah....

Simon Sheehan

Its like a mixture of keys lol

Hold alt

then do 0176 on the numpad

jokerdino

16:38

We call it the degree symbol.

Simon Sheehan

^ yeah, easier to remember

Braiam

@jokerdino that sounds like some PhD

jokerdino

err, the degree Celsius?

Simon Sheehan

Although if you're on a mac, its just alt + 0

Braiam

and firefox have done it...

Simon Sheehan

16:39

@Braiam Its how we show degrees here lol

jokerdino

degree temperature or degree angle.

Braiam

is impossible in firefox... it switch to the tab in the numeric order

jokerdino

You didn't read 'The Lost symbol'??!?!

Braiam

mm...

today seems to be the "troll Braiam day"

allquixotic

@Braiam not trolling. "The temperature today is 86 degrees Fahrenheit."

which would be represented as 86° F

Bob

16:43

Degree symbol

The degree symbol (°) is a typographical symbol that is used, among other things, to represent degrees of arc (e.g. in geographic coordinate systems), hours (in the medical field), or degrees of temperature. The symbol consists of a small raised circle, historically a zero glyph. In Unicode it is encoded at . History The first known recorded modern use of the degree symbol in mathematics is from 1569 where the usage clearly shows that the symbol is a small raised zero, to match the prime symbol notation of sexagesimal subdivisions of degree such as minute ′, second ″, and tert...

Simon Sheehan

What country are you from?

Bob

While we're at it, Kelvin is not measured in "degrees".

allquixotic

or "The inner angles of a square are each 90°".

I wish JetAudio player for Android used floating point samples for pitch shifting -_- I have to use a less user-friendly player called AudioSpeedChanger to get floating point samples

Braiam

> Unicode provides a compatibility character for the degree Celsius at U+2103 (decimal 8451),

that's what I was looking!

℃ :D

Oliver Salzburg

°

Oh, it's one symbol. Neat

Bob

16:50

@OliverSalzburg Generally compatibility characters are really not recommended :P

Braiam

@Bob please, reread your statement... "compatibility chars not recommended"?

Bob

> In Unicode and the UCS, a compatibility character is a character that is encoded solely to maintain round trip convertibility with other, often older, standards.

Basically, avoid using them if possible.

They're just there so you can convert to and from other standards more easily.

Don't use them if you're authoring a document in Unicode (and don't intend to convert it to a specific other format).

Taking the Celsius example, the single character is for compatibility with one or more standards. However, it'll fail to render if you're going to convert to ASCII - in which case you're better off with two separate characters, since at least the C will render.

Basically, you're rarely going to be able to satisfy all standards - so unless you have a specific conversion target in mind, when authoring in unicode, don't use the compatibility characters.

jokerdino

—

Bob

Arguably, they're more for conversion to Unicode - if you're authoring in Unicode you really shouldn't care about conversion to other standards - just author in the other standard instead if you really have to.

Braiam

> In Unicode it is encoded at U+00B0 ° degree sign

jokerdino

16:55

℃

Bob

@Braiam Hm?

Braiam

@Bob are you quoting?

allquixotic

I want a new Unicode character for every line of chat I ever type, so I just have to know the right keycode and can hit Alt+#### to produce the desired chat line

Bob

@Braiam No, I'm just expressing my opinion.

allquixotic

Unicode version 1.11694033 gogogo

jokerdino

16:57

unicode is such a slow moving target.

Bob

@Braiam Basically, compatibility characters are there for the computer (converters, etc.) to use. Not for humans.

allquixotic

@jokerdino actually no, it was updated within the past year

supports Egyptian hieroglyphics now :D

Bob

I mean, you could use them. Nothing is really stopping you.

It's just not the design purpose.

jokerdino

@allquixotic My XP machine doesn't have the INR symbol?

Bob

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the compat chars were missing glyphs in quite a few fonts - most fonts ignore the less common glyphs.

allquixotic

16:58

@jokerdino it depends on the version of unicode supported by the font rendering engine

jokerdino

₹

allquixotic

0x20B9?

jokerdino

U20B9

Braiam

actually you first have to get a font that supports them....

Bob

works here

jokerdino

17:03

Anyone knows or tried LaTex?

Braiam

@jokerdino heard about it... there is TeX - LaTeX

jokerdino

I want to pick up Latex but don't know how good of an idea it is.

Braiam

nothing else

jokerdino

Thank you Clippy. I am gonna date Latex.

3

Braiam

how did you got a "Clippy" here?

allquixotic

17:05

@jokerdino I'm pretty competent with it

Canadian Luke

It's a secret!

jokerdino

> I want to [pick up Latex but don't know how good of an idea it is.]

@allquixotic Great. What's the bestest way to get a decent knowledge of it?

That Brazilian Guy

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jokerdino

Thus far, I am converting markdown to pdf via latex. Because I can!

allquixotic

@jokerdino in my case I used a WYSIWY{M,G} latex editor to write documents with math formulas and looked at and modified the source code to learn by example

having a good latex distribution with a lot of modules and a visual "real time" renderer is helpful

lyx.org

jokerdino

17:08

yeah, lyx is as huge as Ubuntu 13.10. Freaking 700 MB.

Jimmy Hoffa

@allquixotic I'm guessing a decent understanding of math is also helpful

allquixotic

you do some formatting in lyx then you look at the source

if it doesn't come out perfect, you edit the source, read the docs for the modules you are calling, etc

@JimmyHoffa for writing documents with math formulas? yes, but tex doesn't only do math documents

Simon Sheehan

@jokerdino Its been that size forever i thought

Braiam

356

Q: How can I explain the meaning of LaTeX to my grandma?

I wrote a book about LaTeX, and my proud grandma wanted to have a copy. So she got it, said "What a beautiful picture on the cover!" and - "What is this, LaTeX?". She doesn't know Word, never used a computer. But she reads books. How can I explain what makes TeX and LaTeX special to a non-techni...

latex-project

allquixotic

@jokerdino wah wah wah

jokerdino

17:09

@SimonSheehan yeah, it's huge no matter what time of the day it is :/

Simon Sheehan

@jokerdino Gotta love live CDs eh

allquixotic

you won't find a small tex distribution unless it has all the features removed, and then 99% of examples you find online will just error out with "can't find blah"

Jimmy Hoffa

@allquixotic The bits I've seen of TeX it looked relatively declarative/arbitrarily-recursive in approach, I didn't mean regarding writing math documents

jokerdino

@allquixotic I hit upon this when converting .tex to .pdf. Missing font blah.

Jimmy Hoffa

declarative/arbitrary recursion approaches are trickier for many to understand from an imperative perspective, I'm guessing a fair understanding of math makes it a bit easier to think in

But I don't know TeX so I'm speculating

jokerdino

17:12

That Brazilian Guy

@Braiam Tell your grandma to Google "latex". Hm, wait, no.

jokerdino

lol, that cracked me up

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino Damn, 1 sec too late.

jokerdino

@JimmyHoffa Tex is really just typesetting.

allquixotic

@JimmyHoffa if you know HTML or XML, you understand all the recursion you need to know to be able to use TeX

Jimmy Hoffa

17:16

@allquixotic I know Haskell, does that count?

Braiam

@JimmyHoffa nope

meh @jokerdino tex.stackexchange.com/q/11/33619

jokerdino

@Braiam let's see

Jimmy Hoffa

@Braiam do you know what Haskell is? heh

Braiam

just me or FF is broken?

jokerdino

@Braiam yes

Braiam

17:21

jokerdino

lol, it looks fine here

Braiam

@OliverSalzburg found a bug now fix it >:)

@jokerdino what version?

jokerdino

I think v24

you can probably download the pdf and view it locally

Braiam

something fishy with my profile then... Debian also shows the problem...

what's the problem with this guy superuser.com/questions/660287/…

jokerdino

ctrl-shift-u is only for linux distros I think

alt+numberpad numbers work in windows

Braiam

17:34

mm... yeah, I should boot windows just to check if Firefox take that keybiding too...

jokerdino

and yeah, K (kelvin) doesn't need a degree

Jimmy Hoffa

@OliverSalzburg off the top of my head, idea... would need tweaking to make functional I'm sure, I haven't actually run any of this code

Oliver Salzburg

@Braiam Done

Canadian Luke

I still don't get what TeX can do that something like HTML or Word or InDesign can't do...

Jimmy Hoffa

just slinging some crap off the top of my admittedly tired head for grins.

Boris_yo

17:44

I thought the more popular channel is, the more bandwidth YouTube offers for it.

allquixotic

17:56

@Braiam binhexed.

Braiam

@OliverSalzburg wait, I´m sure the darn tooltip said Ctrl...

@allquixotic what?

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke TeX has arbitrary formatting -- you can develop macros in TeX that allow much more flexible formatting, more akin to PDF than Word... furthermore, whereas programs like Word are "WYSIWYG", TeX is "WYSIWYM" -- you as a document designer focus less on the visual display/layout and more on your conten

Canadian Luke

What do you mean by arbitrary formatting?

allquixotic

there are some things that you literally cannot do in Word without a plugin or rendering it in another program and pasting it in as an image -- for example, most advanced math is beyond even Word's equation editor -- also, chemistry stuff -- but you can declare that stuff with actual macros in TeX

@CanadianLuke I mean you can draw an organic chemical molecule, chirality, bonds and all, using plain text markup in TeX

Canadian Luke

Isn't that what the mouse is for?

allquixotic

17:59

instead of using some external program to do that and pasting in a rasterized image that doesn't scale well etc

@CanadianLuke no -- trying to draw a chemical molecule using Paint is just wrong -- not only will you make lots of mistakes and it will look messy, but you will also spend a lot more time doing that

Word vs TeX is like using VBScript with SendKeys vs. writing C++

Jimmy Hoffa

40

A: Why aren't plain-text markup languages (like LaTeX or Markdown) more popular in the software development process?

Lots of participants in the software development process are not developers, and need the ability to interact with documentation regardless. Should QA/Marketing use word and developers use something else completely? It would be inconsistent, it would add another tool into the maintenance chain an...

...just sayin...

Canadian Luke

I see...

I guess I just never had a use for it

Jimmy Hoffa

@CanadianLuke Work in a team with non-technical people and you'll find a use for it quickly, the use being: Getting someone else to edit/maintain the docs, because if the docs aren't in word you will have to do all the maintenance of the docs. Eff that.

Canadian Luke

So what, I just ask them to type up what they want, how they want, then press a magic button?

Braiam

anyone can remeber me if Linux is OT in SU? superuser.com/questions/660287/…

Jimmy Hoffa

18:05

@CanadianLuke Yeah, the little disky-save button, then they feel good about themselves and leave you alone. It's amazing how long you can get a PM off your back by just telling them you like their ideas and they should put them down in a document for your review

Canadian Luke

@Braiam Added a comment for you :)

@JimmyHoffa Really? But if people are good in Word, why wouldn't they use that, unless they need the complex formulas?

Braiam

@CanadianLuke thanks

I travelled in the time!

Boris_yo

@CanadianLuke Haven't you forgot about our matter?

Canadian Luke

@Boris_yo ??

Boris_yo

@CanadianLuke Should be discussed in private.

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18:13

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khajvah

" Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around" What does that supposed to mean?

Canadian Luke

@Boris_yo Create a chatroom, and invite?

Boris_yo

@CanadianLuke Yea

Canadian Luke

OK

@Boris_yo Add me as a write user on there; I got locked out

allquixotic

18:29

@khajvah it means no meta-questions, like, "Is anyone around?" or "Can I ask a question?"

Braiam

@allquixotic can I ask you a question? :P

allquixotic

!!learn no i.sstatic.net/M0Ngk.png

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Command no learned

3

allquixotic

!!tell Braiam no

Braiam

LOL

ChatBot John Cavil

18:35

@Braiam i.sstatic.net/M0Ngk.png

Braiam

@allquixotic mm... that's not right...

allquixotic

!!tell 11695815 no

ChatBot John Cavil

Braiam

yeah, now is better

allquixotic

have to give it a specific message ID :/

Canadian Luke

18:38

Us regulars will know... But just in case...

Oliver Salzburg

@Braiam I find it actually very annoying that it's the only hotkey with Alt :\ I would love to add some Ctrl based hotkey, but all the good ones are taken :P

!!tell OliverSalzburg fixit

ChatBot John Cavil

@OliverSalzburg youtube.com/watch?v=xhy7dXWjpAA

Oliver Salzburg

Why does that not onebox?

Braiam

9 mins ago, by allquixotic

have to give it a specific message ID :/

Oliver Salzburg

@OliverSalzburg youtube.com/watch?v=xhy7dXWjpAA

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That is stupid

@JimmyHoffa So that would be to make the hotkey configurable?

Braiam

18:59

@JimmyHoffa you are a bad code golfer... look at those whitespaces D:

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